striker Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Its like watching youth football. 2 uncontested passes right down the gut of the midfield, then a through ball to streaking winger. At no time did any Saint be close enough to the ball to do anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dad Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 BMG has this well under control. Would expect to see us concede more goals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmonton Saint Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 We got thumped by derby and it was ok because they were a week ahead of us in their preparations.. we are 2 weeks ahead of Borussia and we are getting thumped again. Worrying times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 I think I understand the plan. It must be to lull Burnley into a false sense of superiority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 JWP and Rom on. Lemina and Hoedt off. Back 4 now presumably? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Our passing is predictable slow and labored we should be 5 down already walk in the park for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesfp1 Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 I wouldn't be arsed in the heat either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 We got thumped by derby and it was ok because they were a week ahead of us in their preparations.. we are 2 weeks ahead of Borussia and we are getting thumped again. Worrying times. Burnley will be match fit due to their European games. Tough first game it seems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulletsaint Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 The amount of times we’ve been carved open by one long ball down the middle is bloody frightening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 What are they doing in training? Its like the whole back line just switches off goes for a wander. Holding a line, covering each other and tracking runners seem to be a mystery to our defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Do people know this is a pre-season friendly? A game where you can build fitness, work on different ideas, get match ready and test out fringe players, rather than doing it in a league game. I suggest people go look at all the other premiership sides preseason results and you will see some good, some bad and some terrible. Will this reflect league positions, i highly doubt it. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashnats Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Honest,serious question. Is there anyone who can state that in their opinion this lot are going to be even slightly better this season than last ? I can. Last season was awful until near the end. We will play better this season. But, we will not be as lucky, reckon 18th finish. A long way to go, hope we all have the stomach for it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Another 3 goals let in We are in the shyt again this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Massive subs now, everyone off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonicBoom Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Sideways passing again. People seem to like Hoj, but frankly I've seen nothing from him since he arrived. He's honest and hard working but no quality with the ball. He can't shoot or pick a forward pass. To me he's symptomatic of many of the squad. Good players, but not quite Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Do people know this is a pre-season friendly? I suggest people go look at all the other premiership sides preseason results and you will see some good, some bad and some terrible. Will this reflect league positions, i highly doubt it. HTH zzzz because next weekend the defence will just be superb and right on it despite being awful last season and all through pre-season.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Yoshida on god I hope he has a really good season.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Hoedt is pretty quick for a CB his problem is concentration and over doing stuff in dangerous areas instead of playing it safe. They're both slow on the turn, and in a 3 susceptible to balls in behind and in the channels. Argue all you like but I ain't persuaded that they're a good combination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryhagman Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 I never really fancy us to play well when Lemina's on. And maybe we should think about going back to 4-3-3. 3 cbs a bit defensive of a style. Relies a lot on Bertrand when attacking. Maybe was ok when we were in dire straits at the end of last season. Plus our cbs are crap, whereas we have quite a few attacking players now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Another 3 goals let in We are in the shyt again this season But you were so positive about Hughes appointment? Give him a chance FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 zzzz because next weekend the defence will just be superb and right on it despite being awful last season and all through pre-season.... I get your point but it is the same lot who did well towards the end of the season. We looked pretty tidy against Swansea Everton and Man City with the same players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 I would have told you all about Hughes inability to train a defence, but I was afraid I'd come under a lot of flack... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Borussia's subs look bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Shane Long forces a good save from the keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 They're both slow on the turn, and in a 3 susceptible to balls in behind and in the channels. Argue all you like but I ain't persuaded that they're a good combination. Neither do I but that wasn't what you said. You said Vestergaard was signed just for the sake of it and I pointed why we signed him. I'm hoping Hoedt and Stephens don't play a first team game all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Yoshida misses a sitter. Good corner from JWP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 zzzz because next weekend the defence will just be superb and right on it despite being awful last season and all through pre-season.... Seriously, under koeman we lost three pre season friendlies, against RB Leipzig, Valencia and Salsburg. Mopo season, lost to Schalke and Celta Vigo. Also in the flip we won some, like we have this preseason and every preseason since our history. Preseason means zero, nothing, **** all. Man United beat Real Madrid, do you think if they played again first game of season this would happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 See now Borussia's midfield sucks and is giving the ball away, and look what happens. Their D looks shaky and our attack looks better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Do people know this is a pre-season friendly? A game where you can build fitness, work on different ideas, get match ready and test out fringe players, rather than doing it in a league game. I suggest people go look at all the other premiership sides preseason results and you will see some good, some bad and some terrible. Will this reflect league positions, i highly doubt it. HTH What you say was reasonable three weeks ago we are now one week from the real thing and the team we are playing are meant to be less fit and less prepared! that is what is worrying. Also if they kept their first team on we would be more than just three down at home! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 I've just got in and started watching the last 5 minutes and we look half decent. I'm assuming one can't say the same about the preceding 70 mins?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Seriously, under koeman we lost three pre season friendlies, against RB Leipzig, Valencia and Salsburg. Mopo season, lost to Schalke and Celta Vigo. Also in the flip we won some, like we have this preseason and every preseason since our history. Preseason means zero, nothing, **** all. Man United beat Real Madrid, do you think if they played again first game of season this would happen? Results mean nothing. Performances however do mean something. Last pre-season under Mope it was clear we where going to struggle even when we won games we where poor. Pre-season can tell you a lot if you are looking at more than just results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 What you say was reasonable three weeks ago we are now one week from the real thing and the team we are playing are meant to be less fit and less prepared! that is what is worrying. Also if they kept their first team on we would be more than just three down at home! Equally you could argue, if you are a player a week before the seasons starts, are you going to go for it? Probably not. Also they are a vastly better side than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 See now Borussia's midfield sucks and is giving the ball away, and look what happens. Their D looks shaky and our attack looks better. Maybe it helps also having more bodies in midfield than trying to shoehorn Gabbi and Austin in the side as you insist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Neither do I but that wasn't what you said. You said Vestergaard was signed just for the sake of it and I pointed why we signed him. I'm hoping Hoedt and Stephens don't play a first team game all season. It seems that he was, ie from what I've seen it it's impossible to see how he improves the team and/or complements the other defenders. If he was brought in as a Hoedt upgrade with mobile CB's around him I could understand, but as this game shows, playing them together ain't a good plan. Proper scouting should have highlighted that. A signing for the sake of a signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Do people know this is a pre-season friendly? A game where you can build fitness, work on different ideas, get match ready and test out fringe players, rather than doing it in a league game. I suggest people go look at all the other premiership sides preseason results and you will see some good, some bad and some terrible. Will this reflect league positions, i highly doubt it. HTH Give it a bloody rest. The first game is next week HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Give it a bloody rest. The first game is next week HTH Yeah and this is a pre-season friendly, players will put in different amounts of effort into a pre-season friendly than a league match. You lot are a mess. Go look at other sides pre-season results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Pre season games don't matter. Unless we win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Crrraaaaappppp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich102 Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 This system is a disaster, goal after goal coming from the space between the wing-backs and the CB - and a midfield that's static in attack and bypassed in defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Yeah and this is a pre-season friendly, players will put in different amounts of effort into a pre-season friendly than a league match. You lot are a mess. Go look at other sides pre-season results. As Eko you were better mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 This system is a disaster, goal after goal coming from the space between the wing-backs and the CB - and a midfield that's static in attack and bypassed in defence. Yep. Need to go to a back 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Equally you could argue, if you are a player a week before the seasons starts, are you going to go for it? Probably not. Also they are a vastly better side than us. Exactly they are a vastly better side on a lower budget with lower salaries and two weeks less peparation That is exactly what is worrying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Exactly they are a vastly better side on a lower budget with lower salaries and two weeks less peparation That is exactly what is worrying! Les Reed's destruction of the team and the fan bond, coupled with a ridiculous trip to china.... This is the result. Just hope we have enough about us.! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Exactly they are a vastly better side on a lower budget with lower salaries and two weeks less peparation That is exactly what is worrying! Not really worrying at all, unless you are a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 As Eko you were better mate. It's still preseason. Give Cabbage Face time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 It's a shame Les Reed has been marginalised and not involved in first team matters anymore because otherwise I'd have said that this shambles is his fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 Not really worrying at all, unless you are a mess. If a "mess" translates to a "realist" then you're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 It's still preseason. Give Cabbage Face time. I don't deserve time, I should be banter fit and ready to go straight away, like some sort of banter cyborg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 If a "mess" translates to a "realist" then you're right. Added to over-reacting mess club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 4 August, 2018 Share Posted 4 August, 2018 It's a shame Les Reed has been marginalised and not involved in first team matters anymore because otherwise I'd have said that this shambles is his fault. He's now in charge of season ticket distribution and marketing supposedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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