Ultimatt Posted 3 September, 2018 Posted 3 September, 2018 Nonsense! For example... Great game for him, but note that essentially all those saves didn't require him to move his feet after the shot. We know his weakness is when he has to move left or right to stop a shot and his strength is his big frame.
SuperSAINT Posted 20 November, 2018 Posted 20 November, 2018 Linked with Stoke (should they sell Butland). https://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive-stoke-plot-move-to-sign-southampton-player-in-january/
angelman Posted 20 November, 2018 Posted 20 November, 2018 If FF can regain his confidence, and if we can recoup some outlay, then it seems win all round. Even if he goes on to be brilliant (and I hope he does), its still win all round, as he isn't doing anything with us at the moment, nor the foreseeable future with McArthy and Gunn in place.
the saint in winchester Posted 21 November, 2018 Posted 21 November, 2018 Linked with Stoke (should they sell Butland). https://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive-stoke-plot-move-to-sign-southampton-player-in-january/ Maybe we should buy Butland, then sell them Forster. Then sell Butland on. Convoluted I know, but we need to get the chain moving.
Norm Posted 21 November, 2018 Posted 21 November, 2018 Maybe we should buy Butland, then sell them Forster. Then sell Butland on. Convoluted I know, but we need to get the chain moving. We have No/Nil/Zero/ Nada chance of getting Butland to sign for us! I’ve got better odds on me singing with Little Mix!
Saint Fan CaM Posted 21 November, 2018 Posted 21 November, 2018 Stupid decisions in terms of his contract extension and breaking up the defence that made him look good. Fact is it’s not just about his big frame...it’s about his brain not being agile enough to (a) anticipate and (b) react quickly enough. There are plenty of big keepers in the top flight of football, but the really great ones have more than gristle between their ears and/or have an excellent defence organis3d in front them. Forster had neither.
rooney Posted 22 November, 2018 Posted 22 November, 2018 Stupid decisions in terms of his contract extension and breaking up the defence that made him look good. Fact is it’s not just about his big frame...it’s about his brain not being agile enough to (a) anticipate and (b) react quickly enough. There are plenty of big keepers in the top flight of football, but the really great ones have more than gristle between their ears and/or have an excellent defence organis3d in front them. Forster had neither. Whilst I agree with what you say, he should have the intelligence needed as he went to a Grammar School and I believe I read somewhere that he had a sprinkling of O or A levels.
benjii Posted 22 November, 2018 Posted 22 November, 2018 Whilst I agree with what you say, he should have the intelligence needed as he went to a Grammar School and I believe I read somewhere that he had a sprinkling of O or A levels. Different type of intelligence.
John Boy Saint Posted 22 November, 2018 Posted 22 November, 2018 Different type of intelligence. Exactly.......I have stood next to folk who if compared on paper are viewed as vastly more intelligent that me, put us both in a practical situation and you would think it was the other way around.
Danbert Posted 22 November, 2018 Posted 22 November, 2018 Whilst I agree with what you say, he should have the intelligence needed as he went to a Grammar School and I believe I read somewhere that he had a sprinkling of O or A levels. That surprises me, he comes across as extremely dense when interviewed.
Charlie Wayman Posted 22 November, 2018 Posted 22 November, 2018 Exactly.......I have stood next to folk who if compared on paper are viewed as vastly more intelligent that me, put us both in a practical situation and you would think it was the other way around. Wonder what he thinks? "Why am I standing next to this prat?"
Saint Without a Halo Posted 22 November, 2018 Posted 22 November, 2018 Did a degree alongside playing for saints. Explains everything all those late nights studying meant he fell asleep in goal!
Tamesaint Posted 23 November, 2018 Posted 23 November, 2018 Son of a judge. Went to a rugby playing school.
whelk Posted 23 November, 2018 Posted 23 November, 2018 Son of a judge. Went to a rugby playing school. No need for abuse
Saint Without a Halo Posted 24 November, 2018 Posted 24 November, 2018 Son of a judge. Went to a rugby playing school. Should be able to judge when to come of the line and to catch the ball then!
SuperSAINT Posted 19 December, 2018 Posted 19 December, 2018 https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/leeds-united-emerge-as-front-runners-in-the-race-to-land-six-time-international/ Would seem a smart move.
Tony F Posted 19 December, 2018 Posted 19 December, 2018 Yes we need closure on this. He's no longer in our plans. We really must move him on...… and top of the Championship would seem the right level for him to maybe rebuild his confidence.
SuperSAINT Posted 19 December, 2018 Posted 19 December, 2018 Yeah, can't imagine it being permanent, but even if we can get a percentage of his wages off the books for a bit & he can get himself in the shop window it's a win-win.
Baird of the land Posted 19 December, 2018 Posted 19 December, 2018 https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/leeds-united-emerge-as-front-runners-in-the-race-to-land-six-time-international/ Would seem a smart move. Being reserve keeper at Leeds may not be particularly enticing for him.
saints-cris Posted 19 December, 2018 Posted 19 December, 2018 https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/leeds-united-emerge-as-front-runners-in-the-race-to-land-six-time-international/ Would seem a smart move. This bit made me laugh.. "Forster would be a very astute signing for Leeds, and at 6-foot-7, he’d add some real presence to the Leeds’ backline."
Baird of the land Posted 19 December, 2018 Posted 19 December, 2018 This bit made me laugh.. "Forster would be a very astute signing for Leeds, and at 6-foot-7, he’d add some real presence to the Leeds’ backline." Is that how Tommy Forecast was sold to us by Spurs?
Dellman Posted 19 December, 2018 Posted 19 December, 2018 He's proved to be a very good international calibre goalkeeper. He's had a very poor spell and lost confidence. No reason why the right move, the right management and the right support shouldn't bring it all back again.
DT Posted 19 December, 2018 Posted 19 December, 2018 Please be true. Absolutely awful goalkeeper. Hope Gunn is still keen on us given the McCarthy weirdness
Cabbage_Face Posted 19 December, 2018 Posted 19 December, 2018 Sell him for fire wood Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
ericofarabia Posted 19 December, 2018 Posted 19 December, 2018 Please be true. Absolutely awful goalkeeper. Hope Gunn is still keen on us given the McCarthy weirdness WTF does that mean? McCarthy has made some brilliant contributions this season, the defence has done him no favours at all though.
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 19 December, 2018 Posted 19 December, 2018 WTF does that mean? McCarthy has made some brilliant contributions this season, the defence has done him no favours at all though. He is not referring to ability... He gets all worked up about believes stupid rumours regarding our players leaving and he believes the nonsense about McCarthy going
Dalek2003 Posted 19 December, 2018 Posted 19 December, 2018 Please be true. Absolutely awful goalkeeper. Hope Gunn is still keen on us given the McCarthy weirdness Forster is NOT awful. He hit very bad form but I agree with others. A fresh start in a good Championship club could restore forma and confidence. However, will Leeds be paying the same wages he is on now?
DT Posted 19 December, 2018 Posted 19 December, 2018 WTF does that mean? McCarthy has made some brilliant contributions this season, the defence has done him no favours at all though. Sorry. I meant the weird story I think in the Mail saying he was on way out. I think McCarthy is excellent and that the story is untrue. Big fan. But if he did get sold, i hope Gunn is in place to step up. That was all.
saint1977 Posted 27 August, 2020 Posted 27 August, 2020 That’s Gunn leaving on loan or a perm if Leeds still interested. Madness to have 3 senior keepers and that small a midfield pool. That’s Les Reed logic for you. Reed, Lemina and Gunn moving will pay for a new CM even with the sponsor debacle, probably the guy from Stuttgart Mangala
egg Posted 27 August, 2020 Posted 27 August, 2020 1 minute ago, saint1977 said: That’s Gunn leaving on loan or a perm if Leeds still interested. Madness to have 3 senior keepers and that small a midfield pool. That’s Les Reed logic for you. Reed, Lemina and Gunn moving will pay for a new CM even with the sponsor debacle, probably the guy from Stuttgart Mangala Could be Mccarthy going. He has resale value. I wouldn't want that, but weirder things have happened at Saints.
S-Clarke Posted 27 August, 2020 Posted 27 August, 2020 There is certainly one too many goalkeepers on our books. Forster, Gunn and McCarthy would be unfeasible to keep at a club like Saints, and also unfair to top level professionals. I think the main reason Fraser is staying is because he knows he's on a good deal here, 80k p/w apparently, no one in their right mind would ever match that. So, why not just knuckle down at the club paying you that and see where you go. I wouldn't want to see McCarthy dropped though or leave, the one I expect to go is Gunn. He's still got a decent contract, so throw him out on loan for the year as a number 1...then if he finds his potential we've either got a new No.1 or someone we can get our money back on.
Neef Posted 27 August, 2020 Posted 27 August, 2020 I think McCarthy will start with Forster on the bench. As great as Forst it, one of his biggest shortcomings is his footwork/composure on the ball. That's imperative in a Ralph side and one of the main reasons Gunn started for so many games. Alex isn't stellar in that department either but he's been improving and knows the system inside out now. Find it hard to see Forster coming back into a totally new system and replacing him on such a quick turnaround. Part of me still feels that Ralph see Gunn as our longterm number 1. His confidence took a battering but I can see him going out on loan to rebuild/add to the other parts of his game and then coming back to challenge and eventually replace McCarthy.
Baird of the land Posted 27 August, 2020 Posted 27 August, 2020 Hopefully we sell Gunn rather than loan him out.
Chocolate Box Posted 28 August, 2020 Posted 28 August, 2020 My source (pretty reliable) has told me McCarthy and Forster are on similar wages, not £80k incidentally. Also that Mac is not going to be sold. I am not an ITK by the way , I only get info about a certain player.
Turkish Posted 28 August, 2020 Posted 28 August, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Chocolate Box said: My source (pretty reliable) has told me McCarthy and Forster are on similar wages, not £80k incidentally. Also that Mac is not going to be sold. I am not an ITK by the way , I only get info about a certain player. This is true. McCarthy signed a new contract 2 years or so ago and that gave him a massive pay rise. Typical Saints, he was being linked with a move and we gave him a massive deal far higher than his worth. Dont think it's as much as Forster but not far off. He was close to joining Liverpool last summer but they went for Adrian instead. We are paying out c£200k+ a week in wages for goalkeepers who are all much of a munchness Edited 28 August, 2020 by Turkish
Saint_clark Posted 28 August, 2020 Posted 28 August, 2020 On 27/08/2020 at 09:59, Neef said: I think McCarthy will start with Forster on the bench. As great as Forst it, one of his biggest shortcomings is his footwork/composure on the ball. That's imperative in a Ralph side and one of the main reasons Gunn started for so many games. Alex isn't stellar in that department either but he's been improving and knows the system inside out now. Find it hard to see Forster coming back into a totally new system and replacing him on such a quick turnaround. Part of me still feels that Ralph see Gunn as our longterm number 1. His confidence took a battering but I can see him going out on loan to rebuild/add to the other parts of his game and then coming back to challenge and eventually replace McCarthy. Surely footwork is the one of the easiest things to train into someone? Get him in some quick one touch passing drills with the midfield.
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