Toomer Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 According to the Sun Saints have made a bid of around £10m plus add ons but Liverpool want £20m, Palace interested as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersubpuckett Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 no thanks. we don't need another injury prone striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 Very bad bit of business, if true. Average in terms of ability, very poor in terms of injury record. He’s also a bit of knobhead as well. He had the chance to join us when he moved to the victims to earn and wedge and sit on the bench. Avoid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 I would like to sign obvious quality in this area of the pitch. More obvious than Ings of course. guess the net spend trophy is not going to win itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 Someone on here yesterday said we have been scouting Aboubakar as well and has been of interest to Hughes before. He's a top draw player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 Someone on here yesterday said we have been scouting Aboubakar as well and has been of interest to Hughes before. He's a top draw player. We don’t put all our eggs in one basket so let’s hope we have others in the pipeline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 We don’t put all our eggs in one basket so let’s hope we have others in the pipeline. Yeah I agree. I wonder if Quincy Promes is still in the pipeline too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 We don’t put all our eggs in one basket so let’s hope we have others in the pipeline. We do & now he's at Leganes on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batterseasaint Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 If we were looking to sign Ings as our frontline striker and were prepared to pay Liverpool’s 20m asking price then it would be folly. But it is very obvious that is not the case. Hughes has been carefully constructing a squad which gives him different types of players in key positions, so he can play different games and different opposition as he sees best. Adding Ings to our strike force would simply give us another option. He is quick over ten yards, has some skill to beat a defender and, crucially, can finish. The others- Gabbiadini, Austin, Long and Gallagher- don’t have the same attributes. Things may have changed with his injuries, but this is the gamble, and will be reflected in the price. If we can get him for 10m then maybe it’s worth that gamble. Saints could be good for Ings, and Ings could be good for Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 Hopefully not....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 Liverpool must be smoking crack if they think they will get £20 million for Ings. He’s got worse knees and a worse scoring record than £4million Austin. Bung them £3million and tell them to spend it on new bench cushions for their new substitute Shaqiri. Don’t get me wrong, I think Ings is half decent when fully fit, I just think he’ll spend time keeping Chaz company on the physio table, leaving us with Gabbiadini, Long and Gallagher to score the goals. ( And that’s if we keep all 3.) I’d rather see that money spent on another attacking midfielder in an area we’re (imo) short on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 Laughable if true. Just when you think we've turned a corner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW5 SAINT Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 Buying yet another crocked striker! Will they ever learn...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 Very bad bit of business, if true. Average in terms of ability, very poor in terms of injury record. He’s also a bit of knobhead as well. He had the chance to join us when he moved to the victims to earn and wedge and sit on the bench. Avoid. Sums it up beautifully...we need a new striker, but not this bloke. On another striker issue...are we really going to be stuck with Shane Long for another season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 For that price I'd rather take a punt on Vydra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 Do we maybe have an agreement with Liverpool? Sell them our best and we buy there crocked and unwanted? Sell them Mane for 30m buy Ings for 20m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 As posted on another thread: I went to school with Ings and used to move in the same social circles to him (though I wouldn't say we were friends, just acquaintances). I spent years listening to him talk about how much he hates Saints because we rejected him. He's a cocky bastard too. The type that will say "Hey look at the funny looking tree next to my brand new car...". He'll also buy a homeless person a meal but make sure everyone knows he's doing it. Don't get me wrong, better than not doing it at all and ultimately he's a good bloke but taking all that into consideration, plus his injury record, I really don't think he'd be a good signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 20m for a guy who has been injured for two seasons and is still unproven at the highest level would be bonkers even in the current climate! 8-10m is his absolute max even in the current dilly season of prices! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 20m for a guy who has been injured for two seasons and is still unproven at the highest level would be bonkers even in the current climate! 8-10m is his absolute max even in the current dilly season of prices!No one has suggested paying 20 million or that we are likely to. Its Liverpool's initial valuation that its incredibly unlikely we share. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 For that price I'd rather take a punt on Vydra I regard Vydra as the Czech Billy Sharp, although he might be worth a punt. I'd also rather him than Ings but I'm sure there must be better players than either out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 As posted on another thread: I went to school with Ings and used to move in the same social circles to him (though I wouldn't say we were friends, just acquaintances). I spent years listening to him talk about how much he hates Saints because we rejected him. He's a cocky bastard too. The type that will say "Hey look at the funny looking tree next to my brand new car...". He'll also buy a homeless person a meal but make sure everyone knows he's doing it. Don't get me wrong, better than not doing it at all and ultimately he's a good bloke but taking all that into consideration, plus his injury record, I really don't think he'd be a good signing. Good summary. On a semi related note, based that that (assume by same school you mean Hamble), we must know each other... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 No one has suggested paying 20 million or that we are likely to. Its Liverpool's initial valuation that its incredibly unlikely we share. l'll just leave this here http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/42826326 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 l'll just leave this here http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/42826326Has zero relevance to this discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 Has zero relevance to this discussion Just evidence that the club will overpay for very average talent. But agree zero relevance to this as its only the same club, same management and more overpriced average talent. + the Carillo catastrophe was years ago right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 Good summary. On a semi related note, based that that (assume by same school you mean Hamble), we must know each other... Yes! I was in there above. He used to play with us in the morning beforehand on the astro-turf. For everything I said about him being cocky, he was actually a very unselfish footballer and usually seemed quite happy to "dumb" himself down to suit our ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red&white56 Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 Just evidence that the club will overpay for very average talent. But agree zero relevance to this as its only the same club, same management and more overpriced average talent. + the Carillo catastrophe was years ago right. People and football clubs make mistakes, get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 If the club insisted on buying a crocked striker from Liverpool, wouldn’t Sturridge be the better option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 If the club insisted on buying a crocked striker from Liverpool, wouldn’t Sturridge be the better option? No, Ings is occasionally fit, Sturbridge is never fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 No, Ings is occasionally fit, Sturbridge is never fit Sturridge though, when he is fit, guarantees goals. Ings is still unproven at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markr27 Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 How about Origi instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 Christ right bunch of moaners on here and people reckon I'm overly negative! If we pay a small sum like ten million for ings I'd give him a chance, I think there's a good chance he would be better than many think. I reckon we will do better than last year and we have a better quality in the squad already so that's good enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 I'd only take him on loan with an option to buy personally and it's utter boll_oxs that we'd pay £20m but it won't stop the usual wa_nk stains bleating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackedoff Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 Would drive up to Liverpool this afternoon and pick him up myself.Then drive him as far away from Southampton as I possibly can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 Would drive up to Liverpool this afternoon and pick him up myself.Then drive him as far away from Southampton as I possibly can.Like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 Even at 10 mil I'm not that fussed. I don't know who, but I'd like us to go for one more marquee signing in this position. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 Sturridge though, when he is fit, guarantees goals. How did he get on at West Brom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 If we are signing 2 strikers then Ings is worth a gamble at 5-7m If he's our only striker purchase this summer then it's another major f-up by the club. Sign Ings and Vincent Aboubakar and sell Long and loan out Sam G = good times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 Signing Ings would smack of the same dire misjudgements that led to Austin ending up here. Fat lot of good he has been. Journeymen both, young fit and inventive they are not, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 People and football clubs make mistakes, get over it. Not twice in a row 'though. People are supposed to learn from their mistakes so Heis is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 Signing Ings would smack of the same dire misjudgements that led to Austin ending up here. Fat lot of good he has been. Journeymen both, young fit and inventive they are not, Is that the same Austin who has been our top goal scorer 2 years running, despite being out with injury for a significant part of both seasons. When fit, he is top class. Unfortunately he’s not fit enough to be relied upon and needs to be managed effectively. Ings isn’t in the same bracket as Austin in terms of ability. I don’t think Ings would offer us anything different to what Gabbi does and IMO gabbi is a better player. We won’t spend anywhere near £20m on him, the money isn’t my concern, it’s the fact he’s not the sort of player we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 Is that the same Austin who has been our top goal scorer 2 years running, despite being out with injury for a significant part of both seasons. When fit, he is top class. Unfortunately he’s not fit enough to be relied upon and needs to be managed effectively. Ings isn’t in the same bracket as Austin in terms of ability. I don’t think Ings would offer us anything different to what Gabbi does and IMO gabbi is a better player. We won’t spend anywhere near £20m on him, the money isn’t my concern, it’s the fact he’s not the sort of player we need. 6 and 7 goals. All that proves is how hopeless the rest of our attack has been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 If we sign Ings and play him or Austin, but never both at the same time, there's a chance that their injuries will occur when the other is fit. Therefore, Ings for, say, £15m and £4m for Austin means we paid £19m for one usable striker. That's better value than £19m on one unusable striker. At least the injury double-act will score goals! #PositiveThinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 Nothing in this so I’ve been told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpin4rizeal Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 Would rather have Carrillo back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vectraman Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 6 and 7 goals. All that proves is how hopeless the rest of our attack has been. I think it proves how inept and unadventurous our previous two managers have been. Defensive and non-attacking. I feel confident that under Hughes the team will create and score more goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 I always wodered why we never get someone in return when we sell to Liverpool like we got James Beattie as A makeweight when we sold Kevin Davies to Blackburn Surely if we want Ings on the cheap we just need to wait till the scousers come calling again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 Christ right bunch of moaners on here and people reckon I'm overly negative! If we pay a small sum like ten million for ings I'd give him a chance, I think there's a good chance he would be better than many think. I reckon we will do better than last year and we have a better quality in the squad already so that's good enough for me. Tend to agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 15 July, 2018 Share Posted 15 July, 2018 (edited) Signing Ings would smack of the same dire misjudgements that led to Austin ending up here. Fat lot of good he has been. Journeymen both, young fit and inventive they are not, Ings is 25 and simply down a pecking order at a club that (as much as I hate them) did make a CL final, no wonder he couldn't get match fit, a move works for him. Before that he scored regularly for a team managed by a pragmatist. Bit of a sweeping judgement to write him off. Edited 15 July, 2018 by Colinjb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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