Chez Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 He is tall and extremely good in the air, but not surprisingly he struggles with pace and has the turning radius of an oil tanker. gulp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 gulp.Danish Darren Powell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBitterne Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Hopefully lack of pace will be covered by playing in a back 3. Certainly worked for England so far! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 The two first choices play for Chelsea and Sevilla Ok, after reading the posts above and #50 I feel better. He's young and hopefully just came up against good competition. We could certainly use a top CB. Frankly Yoshida is the only guy I really trust back there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Looks like Gladbach are using the cash quickly... Alassane Pléa appears to be nearing a move to Gladbach OGC Nice striker Alassane Pléa appears to be nearing a move to Bundesliga side Gladbach, who made a new €23m plus bonuses offer for the player earlier today, according to Le 10 Sport. Newcastle United remain interested in the player, but Pléa is understood to be ready to move to the German outfit. Nice are ok with the deal in principle, but are waiting on Lyon, who had a 20% sell-on clause in the deal, but have been proposed an alternative agreement by Les Aiglons. Source: http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2018/alassane-plea-appears-to-be-nearing-a-move-to-gladbach/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 gulp. He'd look great next to Hoedt then. Stick Forster in goal as well as you've got a comedy clusterf()ck not seen since the likes of Boumsong and Bramble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 In most of the posts I’ve seen we were crying out for a commanding tall CB. Now we are focusing on pace and because (allegedly) this guy isn’t that quick we are a bit underwhelmed (well some). Can’t have it all chaps unless we pay stupid money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 In most of the posts I’ve seen we were crying out for a commanding tall CB. Now we are focusing on pace and because (allegedly) this guy isn’t that quick we are a bit underwhelmed (well some). Can’t have it all chaps unless we pay stupid money. unbelievable isn’t it ? If he is in a three centre back partnership pace isn’t important unless the other two are tug boats as well. Commanding in the air will do given how ****e we are defending crosses and set pieces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 In most of the posts I’ve seen we were crying out for a commanding tall CB. Now we are focusing on pace and because (allegedly) this guy isn’t that quick we are a bit underwhelmed (well some). Can’t have it all chaps unless we pay stupid money.Who is underwhelmed? No one has said that at all, it's going to be one of those infamous saintsweb myths again. I reckon he's a good signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 For comparison the back 3 of the title winning team at chelsea were Gary Cahill, Cesar Azpilicueta, and David Luiz. None of whom are fast, really tall, secret is to have the ball playing CB in the middle (Luiz in this case) and the classic CB's either side. The question remains who is our ball playing CB ? Hoedt ? this dude ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Useful Idiot Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 unbelievable isn’t it ? If he is in a three centre back partnership pace isn’t important unless the other two are tug boats as well. Commanding in the air will do given how ****e we are defending crosses and set pieces Exactly. I expect if we'd signed Marlon, they'd be panicking about how he's a short arse and won't win a header. Apparently, Vestergaard is a good reader of the game and fantastic at timing a tackle. It didn't hurt John Terry in his later years when he was as fast as a paraplegic tortoise and as agile as a decapitated elephant. He was a good defender who could read the game and get into the correct position to win the ball. That's what this guy is supposed to be good at and it's what we totally lack at the back. I think I'll wait to see him play before I decide how good he is at football before I pass judgement on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Who is underwhelmed? No one has said that at all, it's going to be one of those infamous saintsweb myths again. I reckon he's a good signing. Danish Darren Powell? Guess you really rated Darren Powell then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Guess you really rated Darren Powell then? "and I turned to my friend and said who is that black defender? He is so dominant". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Who is underwhelmed? No one has said that at all, it's going to be one of those infamous saintsweb myths again. I reckon he's a good signing. Myth just like yourself you ****ing **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Exactly. I expect if we'd signed Marlon, they'd be panicking about how he's a short arse and won't win a header. Apparently, Vestergaard is a good reader of the game and fantastic at timing a tackle. It didn't hurt John Terry in his later years when he was as fast as a paraplegic tortoise and as agile as a decapitated elephant. He was a good defender who could read the game and get into the correct position to win the ball. That's what this guy is supposed to be good at and it's what we totally lack at the back. I think I'll wait to see him play before I decide how good he is at football before I pass judgement on him. [emoji106] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Am pleased with this potential signing. Just hope we get it done, and no bastard hijacks the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Exactly. I expect if we'd signed Marlon, they'd be panicking about how he's a short arse and won't win a header. Apparently, Vestergaard is a good reader of the game and fantastic at timing a tackle. It didn't hurt John Terry in his later years when he was as fast as a paraplegic tortoise and as agile as a decapitated elephant. He was a good defender who could read the game and get into the correct position to win the ball. That's what this guy is supposed to be good at and it's what we totally lack at the back. I think I'll wait to see him play before I decide how good he is at football before I pass judgement on him.Exactly! It's a fact now! You realise that when he's great, people will be linking to posts like this in a couple of years as proof that he was written off and called rubbish before he'd done anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Myth just like yourself you ****ing ****Ohh get her. Doesn't like being called out for bullsh*t evidently... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Looks like Gladbach are using the cash quickly... Source: http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2018/alassane-plea-appears-to-be-nearing-a-move-to-gladbach/ Reading their fan forums, it seems they'd like Benedikt Höwedes brought in as a replacement. He would have been ideal for us too, although at 30, not the sort of player we usually buy. They have some good things to say about Vestergaard. Their forums certainly aren't full of good riddance and laughing all the way to the bank messages like the Celtic forums were when they sold Hooiveld or the Monaco ones when they sold Carrillo. He's a trier, a good offensive header (although not such a good defensive one) and he plays good, long forward passes. From what I've seen of him on videos, his lack of pace is a real cause for concern. Also, perhaps because he is so tall, and doesn't need to, he's not very good at jumping. They say that he is slow off the mark and has poor positional sense but overall they feel he suited their team. But, they also note that they had one of the worst defences in the Bundesliga last season so they can understand why something had to change. Whether such a slow defender can survive in the Premier League will depend on the partnership he forms. Yoshida is the only central defender we've got with enough pace to cover for him so that's probably who he'd play best alongside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Be careful slagging this guy off, I got infracted for doing so. [emoji1303][emoji1303][emoji1303][emoji23] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Be careful slagging this guy off, I got infracted for doing so. [emoji1303][emoji1303][emoji1303][emoji23] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk He does it every time. No mates knob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 He does it every time. No mates knob You are on fire today!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Signed, sealed and delivered... Keep your eye out for some more news about this on your lunch break tomorrow.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefScummer Posted 9 July, 2018 Author Share Posted 9 July, 2018 £18mil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 10 July, 2018 Share Posted 10 July, 2018 £18milYou're using a fans homemade sh itty Youtube as a source now? Hint: he's just reading out the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefScummer Posted 10 July, 2018 Author Share Posted 10 July, 2018 You're using a fans homemade sh itty Youtube as a source now? Hint: he's just reading out the internet. Are you always a pretentious tosser or is it just when you are hiding behind a keyboard? You need to grow up mate if you are getting triggered that easily. All their news has been accurate. Fully grown man crying on a football forum. Jesus wept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 10 July, 2018 Share Posted 10 July, 2018 Are you always a pretentious tosser or is it just when you are hiding behind a keyboard? You need to grow up mate if you are getting triggered that easily. All their news has been accurate. Fully grown man crying on a football forum. Jesus wept.Okaaaaay. I'm not crying about anything sweetheart. Its just a man reading out the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 10 July, 2018 Share Posted 10 July, 2018 The question remains who is our ball playing CB ? Hoedt ? this dude ? Both. Hoedt's passing range is pretty good and seems like this guy's is as well. From the scout reports he's also apparently adept at bringing it out of defence and not bad at dribbling. He started of as a centre-mid. Hopefully we have signed the Danish Harry Maguire. Pace wise I wouldn't worry, the guy is 2m tall, he was never going to be quick but then most centre-backs are not that quick, it's rare to get someone like VVD who is big, strong and fast. For that level of player you have to pay a lot. Also again in this report - http://outsideoftheboot.com/2015/08/13/scout-report-jannik-vestergaard/ It says - Vestergaard is a hard, strong and physical centre back. He has a great tactical view of the game and reads it well to put in a good shift in defence. He isn’t particularly fast but he compensates for it with his positional play and reading of the game A lot of comparisons have been made with Mertersacker and I'd take that, that guy was not quick but still a top quality defender who was aware of his limitations. From what I have read this guy is an intelligent player, who is calm, reads the game well and is very good at making tackles and blocks, coupled with being dominant in the air. At 25 as well he is still young for a centre-back and started off as a centre-mid so is probably still developing his game, so I think he will be a success. Sure he might end up getting beaten for a pace a few times next season, or turned by someone like Aguero but we are not going to end up buying the perfect centre-back. Even VVD had weaknesses, his concentration was a lacking and he switches off at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 10 July, 2018 Share Posted 10 July, 2018 (edited) Are you always a pretentious tosser or is it just when you are hiding behind a keyboard? You need to grow up mate if you are getting triggered that easily. All their news has been accurate. Fully grown man crying on a football forum. Jesus wept. Of course CB is a pretentious tosser. But after a while you realise that that is one of his endearing qualities, but obviously if you take him seriously/literally, you might view things differently. As for the crying bit, Chiefy, it actually looks like its you doing it. But hey, its a football forum populated (primarily) by nom de plumes and it really isn't worth getting your kickers in a twist over things. Edited 10 July, 2018 by angelman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKsaint Posted 10 July, 2018 Share Posted 10 July, 2018 Only two players have won more aerial duels than Vestergaard in the last two Bundesliga campaigns (236), but no player has made more clearances (331) nor have they blocked more shots (60). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBizzier69 Posted 10 July, 2018 Share Posted 10 July, 2018 Only two players have won more aerial duels than Vestergaard in the last two Bundesliga campaigns (236), but no player has made more clearances (331) nor have they blocked more shots (60). Whatever people might think, you can’t argue with stat’s like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBitterne Posted 10 July, 2018 Share Posted 10 July, 2018 When do we reckon then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 10 July, 2018 Share Posted 10 July, 2018 Only two players have won more aerial duels than Vestergaard in the last two Bundesliga campaigns (236), but no player has made more clearances (331) nor have they blocked more shots (60). Great numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 10 July, 2018 Share Posted 10 July, 2018 Only two players have won more aerial duels than Vestergaard in the last two Bundesliga campaigns (236), but no player has made more clearances (331) nor have they blocked more shots (60). Exactly what we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 10 July, 2018 Share Posted 10 July, 2018 (edited) Only two players have won more aerial duels than Vestergaard in the last two Bundesliga campaigns (236), but no player has made more clearances (331) nor have they blocked more shots (60). And many were citing Hoedt’s ‘aerial duel’ stats in serie a before he seemed to get beat week in week out in the air over here. Encouraging stats but #pinchofsalt. Edited 10 July, 2018 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 10 July, 2018 Share Posted 10 July, 2018 Only two players have won more aerial duels than Vestergaard in the last two Bundesliga campaigns (236), but no player has made more clearances (331) nor have they blocked more shots (60). Nice :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 10 July, 2018 Share Posted 10 July, 2018 You get really weird about some players. Thanks, pleased to amuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 10 July, 2018 Share Posted 10 July, 2018 IIRC one of the previous 'best blockers' and 'best aerial duels' players in the Bundesliga was Matip at Liverpool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 10 July, 2018 Share Posted 10 July, 2018 IIRC one of the previous 'best blockers' and 'best aerial duels' players in the Bundesliga was Matip at Liverpool It wasn't so long ago that we were being told about Carrillo's brilliant goal scoring stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 10 July, 2018 Share Posted 10 July, 2018 Signed, sealed and delivered... Keep your eye out for some more news about this on your lunch break tomorrow.... Long lunch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 10 July, 2018 Share Posted 10 July, 2018 Long lunch? Maybe SKD was only addressing our American fanbase...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 10 July, 2018 Share Posted 10 July, 2018 Long lunch? Haha, was told new player to be announced at lunch time today. I assumed it was Vestergaard, looks like it was Gunn! Assume they pushed back for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 10 July, 2018 Share Posted 10 July, 2018 Post World Cup semi final announcement maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 10 July, 2018 Share Posted 10 July, 2018 it's rare to get someone like VVD who is big, strong and fast. For that level of player you have to pay a lot. about £13m as I recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 10 July, 2018 Share Posted 10 July, 2018 Seems like we are addressing the gaps needed, hopefully the personal selected are a return to form for the fabled Black Box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Useful Idiot Posted 10 July, 2018 Share Posted 10 July, 2018 about £13m as I recall. or £75m in new money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 11 July, 2018 Share Posted 11 July, 2018 It´s gone very quiet about this guy signing - more noice about that bloke Santos from Barca all of a sudden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 11 July, 2018 Share Posted 11 July, 2018 It´s gone very quiet about this guy signing - more noice about that bloke Santos from Barca all of a sudden. Sky were saying last night he had his medical yesterday so I guess all is still progressing (unless he failed it)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 11 July, 2018 Share Posted 11 July, 2018 Latest stuff I saw from Sky suggested we were hopeful of completing it by the start of next week, so I don't think there's anything massivley immediate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 11 July, 2018 Share Posted 11 July, 2018 Thanks for the updates guys !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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