SKD Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Transfermarkt has him as left-footed and they a usually pretty accurate with these kind of things. I really like this deal but it does raise some questions about Hoedt. To have two left-footed CB's in a back-four is very unusual so for me this either means Hoedt is on his way out or we committed to a back 3/5 for next season. Unusual yes, but is it any different to having 2 right footed players which isn’t as unusual.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 BUT wait a minute - he needs to book some time at the local Tattoo Parlour - not some even a small neck tattoo and not even started on a sleeve - boooooooooooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Surely Stephens to drop out. Following would be my choice in order, starting the top 3 or possibly Bednarek instead of Hoedt. Stephens nowhere near good enough. 1. Vestergaard 2. Hoedt 3. Yoshida 4. Bednarek 5. Stephens 1. Vestergaard 2. Bednarek 3. Yoshida 4. Hoedt 5. Stephens Hoedt needs to improve considerably! I think think we'll get (and need) another centre back and Stephens will go out on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Alex Crook says it's nearly done. Is this a good thing? Let's not credit Alex Crook with this, he's only repeating what virtually every other news source is saying. He also perpetuates the myth that transfers are the personal responsibility of the manager. Media people like pretending its all done by the manager because it makes an easy way to present a story despite not being true. The recruitment of Vestergaard will have been handled by Ross Wilson, the Director of Scouting & Recruitment and his team under the direction of the Vice-Chairman of Football, Les Reed. Mark Hughes will have been consulted but he doesn't run recruitment. According to sources, the club has been after Vestergaard since before Mark Hughes came in but he may well have had a veto so that if he'd been opposed to the recruitment it probably wouldn't have gone ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Happy with this one, he's the CB who ticks most of the boxes we're missing. Strong, Powerful, good on the ball, a leading player from another club in another league (a very good league as well). Experience in European football. All massive ticks. The only slight concern I'd have is that he's not 'quick', and neither are our other CB's. Getting powerful, quick CB's isn't easy though...! We've done well with our Scandinavians in the past, so I'd expect him to be a hit here. Can’t have it all for the money we’re paying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Terrible signing, another clown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Everyone’s beef with Alex crook is slightly weird Almost as if you are envious of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Alex Crook says it's nearly done. Is this a good thing? Alex Crook just regurgitates stories already in the press or titbits he has found on here. He is a joke figure among our media department and other journos covering Saints. I think Luke Shaw once gave him some actual info about not starting one game under Adkins and he has dined out on that ever since. The guy is a complete fraud. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Everyone’s beef with Alex crook is slightly weird Almost as if you are envious of him People on here hate ITK's. Driven out loads of them. Sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Terrible signing, another clown Simmer down pal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Transfermarkt has him as left-footed and they a usually pretty accurate with these kind of things. I really like this deal but it does raise some questions about Hoedt. To have two left-footed CB's in a back-four is very unusual so for me this either means Hoedt is on his way out or we committed to a back 3/5 for next season. Don't think Hoedt is on his way out, but the Dan gives us options. He will probably be ahead of Hoedt to start with, but Hoedt will develop into a top CB, just needs to concentrate and work hard on not giving the ball away. To be fair there were rumours around that Hoedt wasn't happy so maybe there is something in it. But I certainly don't see Stephens position under threat from the Dane, Yoshida probably has more to worry about. The people on here who just think all CBs are interchangeable really do show their ignorance. What we will have is a squad of 5 CBs who can be used in various combinations, they all have strengths and weaknesses. Jannik will be very useful when we play some of the lower order old fashioned teams who will continue to use a big striker (and Man U) but is he really going to be effective against the likes of Aguero/Stirling and other PL teams who no longer employ big bruises up front. Debatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Alex Crook just regurgitates stories already in the press or titbits he has found on here. He is a joke figure among our media department and other journos covering Saints. I think Luke Shaw once gave him some actual info about not starting one game under Adkins and he has dined out on that ever since. The guy is a complete fraud. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk My favourite Alex Crook story is when he claimed we weren't interested in Charlie Austin, less than 24 hours he was officially announced as having signed. When I pointed it out to him on twitter he immediately blocked me. The guy is a joke who does exactly what you say he does. He is hilarious in his role as talk sports south coast football expert, basically "revealing" all stories that are already in the media anyway. I've never actually seen him say anything that wasn't already in the public domain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Simmer down pal. No thanks Glasgow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Alex Crook just regurgitates stories already in the press or titbits he has found on here. He is a joke figure among our media department and other journos covering Saints. I think Luke Shaw once gave him some actual info about not starting one game under Adkins and he has dined out on that ever since. The guy is a complete fraud. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk who is 'your media department'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Southampton close to Vestergaard signing SAINTS are understood to be hopeful of completing an £18m deal for Borussia Monchengladbach centre-back Jannik Vestergaard. The Daily Echo understands the club have agreed a fee for the towering 6ft7in defender, who was in the Denmark squad at the World Cup. It is believed the 25-year-old will complete a switch to St Mary's this week. He will undergo a medical at Staplewood in the coming days. Vestergaard was unused at the World Cup as the Danes reached the last 16, losing to England's semi-final opponents Croatia on penalties. The imposing figure has spent eight years playing in the German Bundesliga, having played for Brondby in his homeland in his youth. A young Vestergaard started out at Hoffenheim, where he made 76 appearances in four-and-a-half seasons before moving to Werder Bremen in January 2015. He was a mainstay in Werder's team in 2015/16, playing 39 games in all competitions. Mochengladbach then paid 12m euros for Vestergaard in June 2016 where he has played 79 times in two seasons. Now the 16-time capped Dane is set to become Mark Hughes' third signing of the summer after Stuart Armstrong and Mohamed Elyounoussi. Saints will take their summer spending to £41m if Vestergaard joins. Vestergaard has missed just three Bundesliga matches in three seasons and is known for his aerial might. He is also said to be comfortable on the ball. Hughes is keen to strengthen his defensive options this summer, with Saints set to continue to play a three-at-the-back system next term. Vestergaard, who will join fellow Dane Pierre-Emile Hojbjerg on the South Coast, will compete with Maya Yoshida, Jack Stephens, Wesley Hoedt and Jan Bednarek for a centre-back place. Source: http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/16341755.southampton-close-to-vestergaard-signing/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangely Brown Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Terrible signing, another clown Why do you say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Why do you say that? To wind you up and get you to bite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 All part of the master plan........to turn us in to Stoke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangely Brown Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 To wind you up and get you to bite. Ahh I see. He's going to end up as coleslaw by the end of this transfer window then bless him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Very pleased if this comes through. We needed height, we needed a leading CB to organise, a player from a good league with the right experience (tick). OK, may not be blisteringly quickly but actually Yoshi/Stephens aren't slouches pace-wise and Hoedt isn't that slow (although looked at it times last year pre-Hughes). Big high quality CBs with genuine pace cost VVD money only a handful of clubs worldwide can pay that, and even then Liverpool sold Coutinho. Impressed with the enhanced urgency this transfer window, best since 2014 and 2015. I think that tells you a strong manager needs to be in the mix, don't know whether it means Ross Wilson has a greater role in getting deals over the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Very pleased if this comes through. We needed height, we needed a leading CB to organise, a player from a good league with the right experience (tick). OK, may not be blisteringly quickly but actually Yoshi/Stephens aren't slouches pace-wise and Hoedt isn't that slow (although looked at it times last year pre-Hughes). Big high quality CBs with genuine pace cost VVD money only a handful of clubs worldwide can pay that, and even then Liverpool sold Coutinho. Impressed with the enhanced urgency this transfer window, best since 2014 and 2015. I think that tells you a strong manager needs to be in the mix, don't know whether it means Ross Wilson has a greater role in getting deals over the line. I think a manager who knows the league and understands what we need is key. The past two summers we've had 'new' people into the post that wanted time to learn the squad and possibly the league. Hughes has already had the time to 'learn' the squad, so he knows straight away what we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Why do you say that? To wind you up and get you to bite. Nope, wait and see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Happy with this one, he's the CB who ticks most of the boxes we're missing. Strong, Powerful, good on the ball, a leading player from another club in another league (a very good league as well). Experience in European football. All massive ticks. The only slight concern I'd have is that he's not 'quick', and neither are our other CB's. Getting powerful, quick CB's isn't easy though...! We've done well with our Scandinavians in the past, so I'd expect him to be a hit here. Apart from Forren, I'd agree with this. Lundekvam, Ostenstad, Svensson x 2, Killer, Tessem, Niemi, Ostlund - missing anybody? Don't think we've ever had an Icelander? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Hopefully with his height we'll eliminate some of the goals we conceded last season at the back post in what Billy ****e called 'the Cedric/Stephens corridor of uncertainty'.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangely Brown Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Nope, wait and see Coleslaw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 https://www.bundesliga.com/en/news/Bundesliga/jannik-vestergaard-ten-things-on-gladbach-s-great-dane-defender-467867.jsp 4,6 & 7 are encouraging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Coleslaw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 https://www.bundesliga.com/en/news/Bundesliga/jannik-vestergaard-ten-things-on-gladbach-s-great-dane-defender-467867.jsp 4,6 & 7 are encouraging. Like the sound of that Thank you for posting the link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Bloody hell, 1.99m in height! Just what we need really. Dare I say it, but we're beginning to put a decent team together... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Kucho Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Not to sure about this signing, doesn’t have his head shaved with odd looking symbols in it and no tattoo sleeve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Targett - Bertrand - Vestergaard - Hoedt - Cedric Nobody considering this as a possibility? Adopting the Walker CB strategy full-time after successes under Koeman (?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBitterne Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Targett - Bertrand - Vestergaard - Hoedt - Cedric Nobody considering this as a possibility? Adopting the Walker CB strategy full-time after successes under Koeman (?) 3 left footed CB's ? maybe bednerak or yoshida for hoedt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 3 left footed CB's ? maybe bednerak or yoshida for hoedt Good point although I don't think Vestergaard is actually left-footed. Can't see us giving up on Hoedt straight away either although personally I think I'd prefer one of the other two as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarrettIvo Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 3 left footed CB's ? maybe bednerak or yoshida for hoedt Maya is our most experienced (and best) CB by some disrance. Many here may not relish the fact, but by dint of our recent failings in the CB market, it be so. I'd put my money on him and this Danish bloke running out on opening day. Either as a pairing or part of a three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeShmoe Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Targett - Bertrand - Vestergaard - Hoedt - Cedric Nobody considering this as a possibility? Adopting the Walker CB strategy full-time after successes under Koeman (?) I think we will see a lot of prem teams moving to 3-5-2 after England success at WC. I'd have Vestergaard, Bednarkek, Bertand as the 3 with Hoedt and Yoshi as back-ups. Cedric and Targett as the wing-backs. Stephens i can see out on another loan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Another scouting report from when he was in Bremen Passing last year improved a lot as well it looks like from the other report. http://outsideoftheboot.com/2015/08/13/scout-report-jannik-vestergaard/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Not to sure about this signing, doesn’t have his head shaved with odd looking symbols in it and no tattoo sleeve No earring either. Standards are slipping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Another scouting report from when he was in Bremen Passing last year improved a lot as well it looks like from the other report. http://outsideoftheboot.com/2015/08/13/scout-report-jannik-vestergaard/ Good find, mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Is he bellend? More importantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Another scouting report from when he was in Bremen Passing last year improved a lot as well it looks like from the other report. http://outsideoftheboot.com/2015/08/13/scout-report-jannik-vestergaard/ The more you read about him the better he sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Is he bellend? More importantly. Hoping we have signed a player you have much in common with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 Targett - Bertrand - Vestergaard - Hoedt - Cedric Nobody considering this as a possibility? Adopting the Walker CB strategy full-time after successes under Koeman (?) No way should Hoedt be getting in front of Yoshida in the first 11. And why would we downgrade the left wingback position when Bertrand is so much better than Targett? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 No way should Hoedt be getting in front of Yoshida in the first 11. And why would we downgrade the left wingback position when Bertrand is so much better than Targett? I think a lot of people are harsh on Hoedt. First season in the Prem, chopped and changed by the clown in charge and playing in a team with no confidence until Hughes arrived. I think he will make a few people eat their words this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 The fact he didn't get into any WC matches worries me a little. Why not? Its not like Denmark has all PL CB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 The fact he didn't get into any WC matches worries me a little. Why not? Its not like Denmark has all PL CB's.scroll up to post #50 Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 The fact he didn't get into any WC matches worries me a little. Why not? Its not like Denmark has all PL CB's. He's far too slow to play at that level. He's even slower than Hoedt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 The fact he didn't get into any WC matches worries me a little. Why not? Its not like Denmark has all PL CB's. I'd say Christensen is a pretty good PL Cb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 The fact he didn't get into any WC matches worries me a little. Why not? Its not like Denmark has all PL CB's. The two first choices play for Chelsea and Sevilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 The fact he didn't get into any WC matches worries me a little. Why not? Its not like Denmark has all PL CB's. Worth pointing out again that VvD wasn't even capped for Holland when we signed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 The two first choices play for Chelsea and Sevilla Huddersfield's Jorgensen was also selected ahead of him. Anyone seen much of him or rate him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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