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Jannik Vestergaard - Official: Signs for Leicester

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1 minute ago, tajjuk said:

Also centre-back pairings are just that, pairings, so it may be Salisu and Bednerak suit each other better. 

I certainly think the pace of Salisu helps us, gives everyone that little bit more of a margin for error. He's still very raw, very inexperienced...but you only get that experience by playing and from what I've seen he has the physical tools. Although the most impressive part of Salisu's game for me, given his lack of experience, is his reading of the game - right place, right time more often that not. He's just got that uncoachable knack of reading danger.

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1 minute ago, Teddeer said:

I'd hardly call Vestergaard one of our crown jewels. Aside from being quite good at bringing the ball out of defence and pinging a few long range passes nobody could say he is a solid, dependable defender...could they? Too slow or me.

Well, a crown jewel in the weakest of terms - but what I meant was the player who could generate the most $$ for us, alongside Ings or JWP etc. Those are the 3 money makers in the current squad. (well, were)

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Just now, S-Clarke said:

I certainly think the pace of Salisu helps us, gives everyone that little bit more of a margin for error. He's still very raw, very inexperienced...but you only get that experience by playing and from what I've seen he has the physical tools. Although the most impressive part of Salisu's game for me, given his lack of experience, is his reading of the game - right place, right time more often that not. He's just got that uncoachable knack of reading danger.

Trouble is, in the very few games he has played, he looked terrible on the ball. Randomly (and under little/no pressure) just gving the ball away.  Then there is the few times he was totally schooled.

That is not to write him off, as you say, he is very inexperienced.  That is why I hope the club do not buy a livramento type for a new CB, but an Adam Armstrong type.

 

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12 minutes ago, bubblyone said:

What I find interesting is that Leicester, who many pundits predict to be up there competing for Champions league again, will be playing with 1 half of our recent defence 🤔

 

That maybe, but they’ll be far better at Leicester under Rodgers who doesn’t tend to go for kamikaze tactics a la Ralph.

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21 minutes ago, bubblyone said:

What I find interesting is that Leicester, who many pundits predict to be up there competing for Champions league again, will be playing with 1 half of our recent defence 🤔

 

Bare in mind that half of your recent defence is going to be just our back up when our players are back from injury...

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JV probably suits Leicester more than us as one of their tactics is to play long balls to the willing runners incl. aging Vardy vs. our high press. JV's passing would be a useful weapon for them, perhaps his lack of pace being less of an issue.

I don't see them being all that, especially if Madison is off.  That's said, Rodgers is a good coach (although not one I particularly like).

 

 

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44 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

This is a very good point which shouldn't be missed.

Ralph has never really been given the chance to properly mould a team, he's inherited a lot from previous managers and has done the best he can - some are just not suited to his style though.

So I'm kinda intrigued to see how we get on now that he's had a real chance to shape this team, potentially could see up to 8 signings in one window.

So does that mean we can finally judge Ralph as a manager on what this season returns? 

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1 minute ago, Mr X said:

So does that mean we can finally judge Ralph as a manager on what this season returns? 

I think this season will be a fair point to judge him, yep.

He's pretty much got his own team now which have the profile to fit his style of play. So we will see.

Obviously depends on what we get in at CB, but I do think this is the first summer he's been afforded that little bit of flexibility - mainly due to the sales, but it's given him the opportunity to mould the squad much more than he has before. I think he's a good coach and with the right profile and balance in the squad we could see some nice surprises.

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1 minute ago, SuperSAINT said:

We've certainly inquired this season if you go by the Athletic a few days ago.

Didn't we look at him in January? Wasn't the story that we went to Liverpool looking for Nat Philips, but walked away with Minimino instead?

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18 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

I think this season will be a fair point to judge him, yep.

He's pretty much got his own team now which have the profile to fit his style of play. So we will see.

Obviously depends on what we get in at CB, but I do think this is the first summer he's been afforded that little bit of flexibility - mainly due to the sales, but it's given him the opportunity to mould the squad much more than he has before. I think he's a good coach and with the right profile and balance in the squad we could see some nice surprises.

Yes hopefully we suprise everyone and finish tenth or higher ie anywhere in the top half of the table that would be an amazing achievement. 

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Am I the only one who thinks he's not even that great in the air ? The amount of times I've seen him out jumped by attackers miles shorter than him was infuriating and how many headed goals did he score exactly?

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£15m for an average CB, with one year left on his deal, who doesn’t overly suit our system defensively and has been part of the worst defence in the league for the last two years.. Works for me. £20m was never ever going to happen. 

Didnt Wanyama and Clyne both go for less than that, in similar contractual situations? They were both better players than JV.

All about the replacement now, that will determine our season.

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1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said:

Bednarek and Salisu is good enough for what we need. Stephens and the new signing as back-ups.

Don't agree with this at all.

Salisu looks promising but is very inexperienced and the jury is still out on him at this point.

Bednarek, to put it bluntly was garbage last season. We need to replace Vest with someone good enough to start (alongside Salisu) as that is how you evolve the squad. Signing players to be backup to players who aren't very good is asking for trouble.

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6 minutes ago, LuckyNumber7 said:

Don't agree with this at all.

Salisu looks promising but is very inexperienced and the jury is still out on him at this point.

Bednarek, to put it bluntly was garbage last season. We need to replace Vest with someone good enough to start (alongside Salisu) as that is how you evolve the squad. Signing players to be backup to players who aren't very good is asking for trouble.

How do players get experience though? You can't keep them out of the team because they don't have experience, he's only going to get it by playing. I think he's been somewhat eased in so far, but it will be a bit of a baptism of fire for him this year - I like him though.

Bednarek I somewhat agree, I think if we have aspirations of top 10 and above then we probably need someone better if we want to go higher immediately...but for where we are as a club right now he is pretty much fine, standard/average etc. He's got experience at International and PL level which is something the other CB's do lack.

If we can find an experienced PL/International CB to replace him for under £15m then let's go for it, but I don't think they're out there. We'll be shopping in the 'up and coming' market with the view that they will potentially evolve into Bednarek's replacement etc, I think that's out strategy on our budget.

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12 minutes ago, Golac's Cunning Stunts said:

Nothing better than a bit of humility when posting on other fan's forums is there 🤣

Technically not wrong though haha although I can actually see Bertrand sticking it out as first choice for most of this season if he carries on his pre-season form, and Vestergaard will probably get a fair amount of minutes this season with Fofana's injury and Evans really struggling to get fit

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17 minutes ago, simo said:

Am I the only one who thinks he's not even that great in the air ? The amount of times I've seen him out jumped by attackers miles shorter than him was infuriating and how many headed goals did he score exactly?

Just the one goal I recall. I expected a far greater return than that.

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1 minute ago, MarkSFC said:

15m for the Vestergaard in 2020 is maybe a bit too little. 15m for the Vestergaard at any other time here is waaaaaaay too much🤣🤣🤣

 

Am intrigued to see who we replace him with. 

I imagine things will move pretty quickly...

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Wonder if we'll take the experienced, former player route for his replacement. Perhaps even the self-styled, 'best in the world'?

Mr Lovren. Come and save us!

We love you really. And no-one thinks you're a c**t. Honest.

 

 

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Not worried about this at all, he’s one of the players I’d have sacrificed in order to improve.

I think we’ll miss him more as an attacking presence (cross field balls and aerial threat at set pieces) than for his defending ability which has been consistently mediocre over 3 seasons. 

He’d make a good squad/stand in/3rd choice Center back but as a starter I’m not convinced even after 3 seasons. It seems a good move all round, as he won’t be a starter at Leicester once Forfan returns from injury 

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5 hours ago, CB Fry said:

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You're making it sound like the fans forum panel were making grand statements that Vestergaard will absolutely not be leaving etc etc but they really didn't.

 

I'm really not, it was posted on here in a summary that they said no bid had been received yet. I haven't listened myself so only going by that.

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17 minutes ago, CanadaSaint said:

Quick acceptance without a few days of haggilng suggests to me that we know exactly who we want to replace him, and want to get him in ASAP.

Certainly the forum from last night explained that they can move pretty quickly with this stuff.

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Jannik seems like a decent bloke and I wish him well. But my lasting memory of him will be his first ever appearance, pre-season away at Derby. God knows why we went, but we did. 
 

On he comes as a sub and we’re all thinking blimey he’s massive, this is gonna be epic, we’re gonna win the lea… and the first thing he does is fall on his arse and give Derby’s centre forward (who might even have been the annoying runt who used to play for Pompey) a free run in on goal to score. We lost 3-0. 
 

Apart from the majestic diagonals, it rarely got any better. 
 

Next please. 

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£15 odd million for Vestergaard is about as much as we were going to get for a player with one year left on his contract, and with his limitations as a defender. He has good assets (height, passing) but his limitations are also there for all to see (lack of pace, slow on the turn) especially against quick Premier League forwards. Apart from a purple patch early on last season, he's not shown a great deal since he's been here, and undoubtedly his Euro showing for Denmark has been the reason we've got decent money for him.

 

For a club that needs to sell to buy, we could have kept Ings and Vestergaard and reached next summer needing to replace both but with no money to do it with, which means we'd have had to sell a key asset. Now, with £40+ million in our pockets, we can replace those players (Armstrong has already come in) and plan for the long term future AND have a bit of cash in our pocket should we need it. Having money as we reach the end of this window could prove key to picking up a bargain.

 

For Leicester, £15 million is a low risk amount of money for a proven Premier League centre back, one who is ultimately a stop gap until Fofana is fit again. It is a no-brainer for both of us really. The big question is can we replace him adequately. Salisu and Bednarek as a first choice centre back pairing worries me, and Stephens should only ever be a 4th choice at this level. I'd like to see us bring in someone strong, tall and fairly quick as a first choice to play alongside Salisu.

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The replacement CB has to have enough quality to be a starter. Yes i get the whole buy cheap and sell for profit mantra, but they need to be a player for the present. We could have £20m+ to work with and the position is crucial to our hopes of staying in the PL. Another season of conceding 60+ goals and we're in deep trouble. 

Ozan Kabak has been mentioned and I think he would be a good replacement. Was being touted as one of the best young CBs in Europe, but the disaster at Schalke hasnt helped his progression. Another Bundesliga option would be Marvin Friedrich. Has had an excellent season for Union Berlin

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I won't be sad to see him go. The main thing we will lose are the Hollywood passes which on a good day were highly effective, but on a bad day resulted in a fast turnover of possession. far too often last season we were reliant on this being our only tactic.

Otherwise as mentioned many times above he's far too slow both to move and to react and no where near as good as he someone of his stature should be in the air.

I'm looking forward to seeing who we replace him with - hopefully someone a bit more dynamic.

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i think whoever we replace him with will need to have a decent pass on him. not saying he needs to have a diagonal like vest but it should not be underestimated how much we relied on vest's passing in our build up last season. people will only rmb the long ball to kwp but it was more than that - he was incredibly good at finding the feet of our forward players with one bullet pass and bypassing our midfield. without this i fear for our overall build up game. our midfield cant be relied on for this, bednarek's passing is as good as mine, stephens shouldnt be starting, basically if we cant get a numbers up situation down either flank and progress the ball up that way we often resort to going back to mcarthy who will send it long (and often into touch lol)

i wont miss his calamitous lapses of concentration though - the fuck up away to cardiff springs to mind 

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