Jannik Vestergaard - Official: Signs for Leicester

[SuperSAINT]

 

Edited 8 August, 2021 by SuperSAINT

[S-Clarke]

Hope this one happens. We have the replacement already here in Salisu, so it gives us a bit of leeway and we can use his fee to strengthen midfield, squad CB and see if we can stretch to GK if we get enough.

We had a shocking defence last year, he was part of that, so let's get as much as we can and let him go.

Edited 8 August, 2021 by S-Clarke

[ErwinK1961]

5 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

Hope this one happens. We have the replacement already here in Salisu, so it gives us a bit of leeway and we can use his fee to strengthen midfield, squad CB and see if we can stretch to GK if we get enough.

We had a shocking defence last year, he was part of that, so let's get as much as we can and let him go.

Seconded. He’s had about a 6 month period where he looked to be worth his fee, the rest of the time he’s been garbage along with the rest of our defence. 

Hope with the funds we can make an improvement back there tbh, someone to displace Bednarek who, for reasons unknown, seems to have completely lost it.

[Jeremy Corbyn]

11 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said:

Seconded. He’s had about a 6 month period where he looked to be worth his fee, the rest of the time he’s been garbage along with the rest of our defence. 

Hope with the funds we can make an improvement back there tbh, someone to displace Bednarek who, for reasons unknown, seems to have completely lost it.

He's a good player in a team full of confidence and with the right support around him to cover his weaknesses.  We didn't have either in the second half of last season and he was as bad as the rest.  Salisu definitely has more potential defensively.

[DT]

He'l be good for them but right time to sell. Pretty slow but has some quality. Shrewd from Rodgers. Glad not going to Spurs

[benjii]

Better at passing than defending. No big loss. Sell.

[Sarisbury Saint]

2 minutes ago, benjii said:

Better at passing than defending. No big loss. Sell.

How much do you reckon we’ll get for him ?

[Charlie Wayman]

So how ironic will that be with Villa & Leicester fielding teams of ex-Saints. Do you think Bertie has had a word with his mate Vestergaard?

Wonder if Ings & Targett are trying to get their Academy mate to join them?

[Matthew Le God]

Just now, Charlie Wayman said:

So how ironic will that be with Villa & Leicester fielding teams of ex-Saints.

Not at all.

Like nothing in this song was ironic...

[TWar]

16 minutes ago, Sarisbury Saint said:

How much do you reckon we’ll get for him ?

£15-20m personally. Get rid imo. He had one good season with us, aint getting any younger, and his lack of pace means we can't play our ideal higher line. Sell and bring in someone younger and quicker to partner Salisu.

[spyinthesky]

7 minutes ago, TWar said:

£15-20m personally. Get rid imo. He had one good season with us, aint getting any younger, and his lack of pace means we can't play our ideal higher line. Sell and bring in someone younger and quicker to partner Salisu.

I think we need more height at the back especially with two small fullbacks and not much height elsewhere in the team.
Our defending for the first Bilbao goal from a corner (notwithstanding McCarthy's flap) was not good.

Perhaps if Vestegaard stays we play 
            Bednerak Vesty Salisu
KWP                                           Peraud
   Armstrong  JWP     Romeu
        New Striker   Adams
 

[derry]

Vestergaard wants a new challenge!  I presume it's because he is mostly too slow to make challenges as he makes a passable impression of a lamp post. I've lost count of the times the ball is stuck in our net and he hasn't moved just watching. Playing against quick forwards he is like a carthorse in the Derby. As for going forward, if we lose the ball we usually are left exposed as he can't get back and usually makes no effort. If we can find a mug to buy him that would be great. Use the money to buy a quick, hard man defender.

[SNSUN]

£40-45 million for Jannick and Danny would definitely give us ammunition in the transfer market if we can spend it right. That should be enough to bring in a Striker (in addition to Broja on loan), a CB replacement and a CM in. We'd also still have another loan slot available.

 

In addition I'd still want another AM as I still think we lack quality there and a GK and another LB but we can't have everything. Sadly.

[CanadaSaint]

12 minutes ago, spyinthesky said:

I think we need more height at the back especially with two small fullbacks and not much height elsewhere in the team.
Our defending for the first Bilbao goal from a corner (notwithstanding McCarthy's flap) was not good.

Perhaps if Vestegaard stays we play 
            Bednerak Vesty Salisu
KWP                                           Peraud
   Armstrong  JWP     Romeu
        New Striker   Adams
 

If we upgrade on Vestergaard that is not a bottom eight line up. Depth is a work in progress, but Diallo has started to look like more than a fringe player, and Livramento clearly has real quality.

And I’m pondering on your idea of solving the Forster/McCarthy dilemma by not playing either of them. 😂

[Badger]

1 minute ago, CanadaSaint said:

If we upgrade on Vestergaard that is not a bottom eight line up. Depth is a work in progress, but Diallo has started to look like more than a fringe player, and Livramento clearly has real quality.

And I’m pondering on your idea of solving the Forster/McCarthy dilemma by not playing either of them. 😂

Where is the upgrade coming from , have any been suggested or rumoured ? The only CB's I recall seeing linked over the last week are an Austrian UN21 from Nice, and Phillips from Liverpool (possibly on loan with an option to buy might not be a bad way to go).

Sell Vestergaard for £20m though and who knows perhaps there will be enough in the pot for a GK .

[SKD]

Sell, sell, sell. 6 good months the rest has been nothing short of dreadful. 

Not a good defender but tidy on the ball, so will attract interest as that’s the modern way. 
 

15-20m would represent a good deal. Replace him with an upgrade on Bednarek and someone who’s a natural leader please. 

[Teddeer]

25 minutes ago, derry said:

Vestergaard wants a new challenge!  I presume it's because he is mostly too slow to make challenges as he makes a passable impression of a lamp post. I've lost count of the times the ball is stuck in our net and he hasn't moved just watching. Playing against quick forwards he is like a carthorse in the Derby. As for going forward, if we lose the ball we usually are left exposed as he can't get back and usually makes no effort. If we can find a mug to buy him that would be great. Use the money to buy a quick, hard man defender.

How about Boubakar Kouyate from Metz? Looks a bit of a beast in skills videos. Might be good alongside Salisu.

[macca155]

Yep sell, he's ok and if he stayed i wouldn't be disappointed. However 20 million is a good price. I can't see Vesty improving, he is what he is.

Takes the pressure off selling JWP this year.

[woodsaint1]

20 million and he can go. We need a replacement however. A couple of injuries/suspensions at CB, which is inevitable, and we're down to Stephens and Simeu 😱.

Wonder if the Daniliuc interest will step up

[TWar]

2 hours ago, spyinthesky said:

I think we need more height at the back especially with two small fullbacks and not much height elsewhere in the team.
Our defending for the first Bilbao goal from a corner (notwithstanding McCarthy's flap) was not good.

Perhaps if Vestegaard stays we play 
            Bednerak Vesty Salisu
KWP                                           Peraud
   Armstrong  JWP     Romeu
        New Striker   Adams
 

That was on Long to be fair. Defending from corners is on everyone as everyone needs to not be beaten. Long was given a taller guy to mark as he used to have a mean jump, seems like age is catching up on him now though.

[Nemi]

Sell, sell, sell. His defensive record at Saints speaks for itself - atrocious. And honestly we looked far more solid at the back with Bednarek and Salisu when he got sent off v Leicester and that was with 10 men!

[tajjuk]

3 hours ago, Badger said:

 Phillips from Liverpool (possibly on loan with an option to buy might not be a bad way to go).

Thought Nat Phillips looked pretty good to be honest, a loan with an option to buy would be a decent deal. 

Apparently Liverpool want about £12-15 million for him and might accept a delayed payment. 

[Saint Keef]

If Leicester end up with Vestergaard, as well as Bertrand, they will have 50% of a back four that leaked 2,193 goals......(or something like that... Haha) last season. SELL!!!!

Edited 8 August, 2021 by Saint Keef

[Far que]

sell he has the turning circle of the queen mary

[skintsaint]

https://talksport.com/football/923620/leicester-west-ham-rumours-jannik-vestergaard-fofana-transfer-injury/

 

[SaintBitterne]

As good as he can be on the ball at times, you're lying if you feel 100% comfortable with him in the team.

Edited 9 August, 2021 by SaintBitterne
Typo

[waylander]

7 hours ago, Saint Keef said:

If Leicester end up with Vestergaard, as well as Bertrand, they will have 50% of a back four that leaked 2,193 goals......(or something like that... Haha) last season. SELL!!!!

Don't tell Leicester that!

[VectisSaint]

12 hours ago, woodsaint1 said:

20 million and he can go. We need a replacement however. A couple of injuries/suspensions at CB, which is inevitable, and we're down to Stephens and Simeu 😱.

Wonder if the Daniliuc interest will step up

We already have his replacement, Ollie Lancashire can make the step up if needed.

[nta786]

9 hours ago, Saint Keef said:

If Leicester end up with Vestergaard, as well as Bertrand, they will have 50% of a back four that leaked 2,193 goals......(or something like that... Haha) last season. SELL!!!!

pains me to say it but they have a better manager, a better defensive midfield, and a better GK!

[babyblue]

7 hours ago, waylander said:

Don't tell Leicester that!

They are cover players, Bertrand until Justin is back fit and Vestergaard until Evans / Fofana are back fit. The long term plan is certainly not them to be in our main starting line up. 

[igsey]

Leicester have Fofana and Evans out injured, we should be able to take them to the cleaners. £15m+ (ideally £20m) for Vestergaard in the last year of his deal would be outstanding. I think most of us would have driven him up there ourselves season before last.

[Kenilworthy]

2 minutes ago, igsey said:

Leicester have Fofana and Evans out injured, we should be able to take them to the cleaners. £15m+ (ideally £20m) for Vestergaard in the last year of his deal would be outstanding. I think most of us would have driven him up there ourselves season before last.

As long as they don't offer Choudry in exchange.

[OldNick]

5 hours ago, nta786 said:

pains me to say it but they have a better manager, a better defensive midfield, and a better GK!

also a much better league position

[Matthew Le God]

Just now, OldNick said:

also a much better league position

They are level on points with Saints.

[beatlesaint]

1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said:

They are level on points with Saints.

Don’t you ever get tired of being pedantic? You know what he meant 🙄

[OldNick]

4 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

They are level on points with Saints.

lol, but still above us in the league

[Ivan Golac]

Could Gary Cahill do a job for us if we lose Vesty , hes a free agent or is he really crap nowadays?

[East Kent Saint]

5 minutes ago, Ivan Golac said:

Could Gary Cahill do a job for us if we lose Vesty , hes a free agent or is he really crap nowadays?

I thought that already on here but is he an experienced organizer or a washed up pointer of the finger of blame !!!!

[captainchris]

On 08/08/2021 at 18:33, S-Clarke said:

Hope this one happens. We have the replacement already here in Salisu, so it gives us a bit of leeway and we can use his fee to strengthen midfield, squad CB and see if we can stretch to GK if we get enough.

We had a shocking defence last year, he was part of that, so let's get as much as we can and let him go.

True but Bednerek was worse and is definitely not good enough for this league.

[Matthew Le God]

Just now, captainchris said:

True but Bednerek was worse and is definitely not good enough for this league.

That really is nonsense. Sure he isn't ever going to be signed by any of the big 6, but for what we need him for and aspirations of a 10th place finish he is fine.

[captainchris]

1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said:

That really is nonsense. Sure he isn't ever going to be signed by any of the big 6, but for what we need him for and aspirations of a 10th place finish he is fine.

Nonsense lol ! Patently not true. 

[ErwinK1961]

1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said:

That really is nonsense. Sure he isn't ever going to be signed by any of the big 6, but for what we need him for and aspirations of a 10th place finish he is fine.

What have you based this 10th place finish business on with Bednarek? How do you know he’s good enough for a 10th place finish, when he’s never finished there in any season with us?

[Matthew Le God]

Just now, captainchris said:

Nonsense lol ! Patently not true. 

What screwed us last season wasn't the first choice back four, it was when some of them weren't available, plus Romeu missing the back-ups weren't good enough. Bednarek showed throughout 2020 when in a settled team he formed a key part of a very good defensive unit. To say he isn't good enough to play in the Premier League is ridiculous.

[Matthew Le God]

33 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said:

What have you based this 10th place finish business on with Bednarek? How do you know he’s good enough for a 10th place finish, when he’s never finished there in any season with us?

As recently as July 2020 he was in a team that finished 11th in the PL, only 2 points from 10th. So it is hardly a stretch!

Edited 9 August, 2021 by Matthew Le God

[Lord Duckhunter]

2 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

As recently as July 2020 he was in a team that finished 11th in the PL, only 2 points from 10th. So it is hardly a stretch!

If McCarthy played in nets every game for Man C and as a result they finished third, would that prove he was a top 4 standard keeper? 

Edited 9 August, 2021 by Lord Duckhunter

[Matthew Le God]

Just now, Lord Duckhunter said:

If McCarthy played in nets every game for Man C and as a result they finished third, would that prove he was a top 4 standard keeper? 

Read my post in context.

I was responding to him saying this...

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when he’s never finished there in any season with us?

 

[captainchris]

5 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

What screwed us last season wasn't the first choice back four, it was when some of them weren't available, plus Romeu missing the back-ups weren't good enough. Bednarek showed throughout 2020 when in a settled team he formed a key part of a very good defensive unit. To say he isn't good enough to play in the Premier League is ridiculous.

Laughable quote…. 

[Matthew Le God]

Just now, captainchris said:

Laughable quote…. 

Why?

[CanadaSaint]

56 minutes ago, captainchris said:

Laughable quote…. 

I don't think it is at all, for the reasons MLG outlined.

As I posted a couple of days ago, most of last year his confidence was undermined by things going on around him - losing Romeu, always having to defer to Stephens (who would carry the ball for 20 yards before giving it away and putting us back under pressure), covering Vest’s slow turns and brain farts, losing KWP and being asked to mark Saint-Maximin, the debacle at Old Trafford, and so on. He looks much more assured with Poland.

I don't ever see a Top 5 club bidding for him but this is a season in which Bednarek can become a decent CB.

[verlaine1979]

1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said:

That really is nonsense. Sure he isn't ever going to be signed by any of the big 6, but for what we need him for and aspirations of a 10th place finish he is fine.

Is Bednarek good enough for the style of football we want to play? Is he comfortable receiving possession? Does he hit ten yard passes accurately and at pace?