goodymatt Posted 5 July, 2021 Share Posted 5 July, 2021 Watching some analysis on Perraud it seems he is an excellent switcher of the ball and can play diagonal passes like Vestergaard. I wonder if having this in his locker would negate losing that ball playing ability that Vestergaard clearly has over Salisu. Playing LB, Perraud isn’t going to always be in the best position to do it though. But the better defensive quality and pace of Salisu will also help with the way we play. He’s also only going to get better and needs games. Also having 2x FBs that can get up the pitch and great chances might mean a CB with more pace and 1v1 ability is more important to us than Vestergaard’s ball playing. He’s so slow and when left exposed we struggle. This time last year nobody expected Vestergaard to be a first choice with Stephens and Bednarek ending the season before last so well. Salisu was signed as the improvement. I think it’s time with 1 year left and a good Euros to cash in here and back Salisu. Don’t think it will hurt us overall. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 5 July, 2021 Share Posted 5 July, 2021 2 hours ago, goodymatt said: Watching some analysis on Perraud it seems he is an excellent switcher of the ball and can play diagonal passes like Vestergaard. I wonder if having this in his locker would negate losing that ball playing ability that Vestergaard clearly has over Salisu. Playing LB, Perraud isn’t going to always be in the best position to do it though. But the better defensive quality and pace of Salisu will also help with the way we play. He’s also only going to get better and needs games. Also having 2x FBs that can get up the pitch and great chances might mean a CB with more pace and 1v1 ability is more important to us than Vestergaard’s ball playing. He’s so slow and when left exposed we struggle. This time last year nobody expected Vestergaard to be a first choice with Stephens and Bednarek ending the season before last so well. Salisu was signed as the improvement. I think it’s time with 1 year left and a good Euros to cash in here and back Salisu. Don’t think it will hurt us overall. Totally agree with this. I would also hope to get a stronger and faster centre back replacement as Bednarek and Stephens will not be suitable to cover the attacking wing backs. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted 6 July, 2021 Share Posted 6 July, 2021 9 hours ago, goodymatt said: Watching some analysis on Perraud it seems he is an excellent switcher of the ball and can play diagonal passes like Vestergaard. I wonder if having this in his locker would negate losing that ball playing ability that Vestergaard clearly has over Salisu. Playing LB, Perraud isn’t going to always be in the best position to do it though. But the better defensive quality and pace of Salisu will also help with the way we play. He’s also only going to get better and needs games. Also having 2x FBs that can get up the pitch and great chances might mean a CB with more pace and 1v1 ability is more important to us than Vestergaard’s ball playing. He’s so slow and when left exposed we struggle. This time last year nobody expected Vestergaard to be a first choice with Stephens and Bednarek ending the season before last so well. Salisu was signed as the improvement. I think it’s time with 1 year left and a good Euros to cash in here and back Salisu. Don’t think it will hurt us overall. Nice one Danny.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Controller Posted 6 July, 2021 Share Posted 6 July, 2021 Gary Cahill as experienced cover on a 1 year deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 6 July, 2021 Share Posted 6 July, 2021 56 minutes ago, The Fat Controller said: Gary Cahill as experienced cover on a 1 year deal That boat has sailed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antrimsaint Posted 6 July, 2021 Share Posted 6 July, 2021 1 hour ago, Lord Duckhunter said: That boat has sailed. Pony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 7 July, 2021 Share Posted 7 July, 2021 JV to Spurs...think their fans are in for a shock if that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 7 July, 2021 Share Posted 7 July, 2021 2 hours ago, skintsaint said: JV to Spurs...think their fans are in for a shock if that happens. A bit of a step down from Alderweireld... and we speak from experience! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 7 July, 2021 Share Posted 7 July, 2021 25 minutes ago, igsey said: A bit of a step down from Alderweireld... and we speak from experience! Ain’t that the truth. Mind you if he gets torn apart by Kane and co. tonight he probably won’t be going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnet Posted 7 July, 2021 Share Posted 7 July, 2021 1 hour ago, beatlesaint said: Ain’t that the truth. Mind you if he gets torn apart by Kane and co. tonight he probably won’t be going anywhere. Win win for us, torn apart = stays , outstanding = +10m on price 🙂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 7 July, 2021 Share Posted 7 July, 2021 1 hour ago, beatlesaint said: Ain’t that the truth. Mind you if he gets torn apart by Kane and co. tonight he probably won’t be going anywhere. It depends who he is paired with. If Salisu was right footed, the partnership could work as it could with any decent DCR with recovery pace. The reason he got exposed is although Jan is right footed, he is quite slow himself and his game reading varies, hence the late challenges and interceptions. This was OK when Rom protected them but you could cut through the spine of the team like a hot knife through butter after the injury at Leeds. Vesty is a very good footballer, reads the game well and great in the air but always a risk of getting caught with the ball high up under RH’s system. In another environment he could work very well and as he’s never had pace he should have plenty of mileage left. As someone else posted, give him pace and you have nearing VVD level pre ACL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 7 July, 2021 Share Posted 7 July, 2021 https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/football/portsmouth-fc/why-angry-portsmouth-fans-have-been-describing-southampton-as-weird-and-embarrassing-ahead-of-englands-european-championship-semi-final-against-denmark-3299436 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 7 July, 2021 Share Posted 7 July, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Master Bates said: https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/football/portsmouth-fc/why-angry-portsmouth-fans-have-been-describing-southampton-as-weird-and-embarrassing-ahead-of-englands-european-championship-semi-final-against-denmark-3299436 There's something very embarrassing and smalltime about comparing Mount for them to Vestergaard for us, as if having a top player support you as a kid is the same as having one play for you right now. They are like "pompey aren't posting about Mount" and it's like, why would they? Some absolute melts with regards to this tweet anyway, team wishes their player good luck, big deal. Edited 7 July, 2021 by TWar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chocolate Box Posted 7 July, 2021 Share Posted 7 July, 2021 Who gives a shit what the retards think? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 7 July, 2021 Share Posted 7 July, 2021 6 minutes ago, Chocolate Box said: Who gives a shit what the retards think? They're right though. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 7 July, 2021 Share Posted 7 July, 2021 2 hours ago, Master Bates said: https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/football/portsmouth-fc/why-angry-portsmouth-fans-have-been-describing-southampton-as-weird-and-embarrassing-ahead-of-englands-european-championship-semi-final-against-denmark-3299436 Why are they angry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 7 July, 2021 Share Posted 7 July, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: Why are they angry? They wont be angry, that'll be newspaper headline drama. They'll just think it's weird that an English premier league club are wishing a Danish defender well (who is probably leaving) in a massive game against England and they're right, it is. Edited 7 July, 2021 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 7 July, 2021 Share Posted 7 July, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: Why are they angry? Because they see it as not supporting England. Presumably if Denmark win every Danish player who plays in England must be extradited immediately and not have any tea before they go. Saints merely tweeted “Do your thing” about him which can be taken two ways given some of his performances in the past. If he does “that thing” England are nailed on to win. Edited 7 July, 2021 by beatlesaint 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 7 July, 2021 Share Posted 7 July, 2021 Just now, Turkish said: They'll just think it's weird that an English premier league club are wishing a Danish defender well Because he is one of their players and is employed by the club... It's pretty obvious if you think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 7 July, 2021 Share Posted 7 July, 2021 10 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: Why are they angry? Striving for relevance. Pompey fans haven't supported an even remotely relevant team in over a decade, they are pathetically small scale. In order to still feel important they live vicariously through us by obsessing about us and rooting against us as a way of still having stake in football at a higher level. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 7 July, 2021 Share Posted 7 July, 2021 15 minutes ago, TWar said: Because he is one of their players and is employed by the club... It's pretty obvious if you think about it. A club in England wishing a player for our opponents to do well on the day of a massive game is absolutely stupid. It's not an internal email wishing a colleague well, its a public announcement. Really dopey from the club. It's pretty obvious when you think about it. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 7 July, 2021 Share Posted 7 July, 2021 Just now, CB Fry said: A club in England wishing a player for our opponents to do well on the day of a massive game is absolutely stupid. It's not an internal email wishing a colleague well, its a public announcement. Really dopey from the club. It's pretty obvious when you think about it. He is their player, it's fine for them to wish him well. They didn't explicitly say they wanted him to win or England to lose, they just passed on sporting best wishes to an employee. The reaction to this from people saying "but what about England" is what is really embarrassing. I've never seen so many people get wound up by something that matters so little. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 7 July, 2021 Share Posted 7 July, 2021 12 minutes ago, TWar said: He is their player, it's fine for them to wish him well. They didn't explicitly say they wanted him to win or England to lose, they just passed on sporting best wishes to an employee. The reaction to this from people saying "but what about England" is what is really embarrassing. I've never seen so many people get wound up by something that matters so little. Stick to statistical analytics mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 7 July, 2021 Share Posted 7 July, 2021 Wishing our own player well doesn't explicitly mean we want his team to knock England out. It's perfectly possible (in fact, very likely) that the club would like to see (a) JV to have a decent game and give a good account of himself in a semi final of a major international tournament, and (b) Denmark to still lose. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 7 July, 2021 Share Posted 7 July, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: Wishing our own player well doesn't explicitly mean we want his team to knock England out. It's perfectly possible (in fact, very likely) that the club would like to see (a) JV to have a decent game and give a good account of himself in a semi final of a major international tournament, and (b) Denmark to still lose. Indeed. It's almost as if the people pouring scorn on the club's tweet aren't intelligent enough to avoid the non-sequitur... #mountain #molehill #storm #teacup Edited 7 July, 2021 by trousers 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 7 July, 2021 Share Posted 7 July, 2021 9 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: Wishing our own player well doesn't explicitly mean we want his team to knock England out. It's perfectly possible (in fact, very likely) that the club would like to see (a) JV to have a decent game and give a good account of himself in a semi final of a major international tournament, and (b) Denmark to still lose. Just now, trousers said: Indeed. It's almost as if the people pouring scorn on the club's tweet aren't intelligent enough to avoid the non-sequitur... Not really. There are a million different messages and a million different tweets they could have sent. And the option not say anything at all also exists. You make it sound like that message was the only option they had and how dare anyone question it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 7 July, 2021 Share Posted 7 July, 2021 56 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: Why are they angry? The result of generations of inbreeding. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 7 July, 2021 Share Posted 7 July, 2021 22 hours ago, Antrimsaint said: Pony Donkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le_tiss Posted 7 July, 2021 Share Posted 7 July, 2021 12 minutes ago, trousers said: Indeed. It's almost as if the people pouring scorn on the club's tweet aren't intelligent enough to avoid the non-sequitur... #mountain #molehill #storm #teacup Always apply the rule of broadcasting tweets to the thickest / most idiotic people (the lowest common denominator) to avoid doubt! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 7 July, 2021 Share Posted 7 July, 2021 5 hours ago, Sheaf Saint said: Why are they angry? Why is anyone angry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 7 July, 2021 Share Posted 7 July, 2021 4 hours ago, trousers said: Indeed. It's almost as if the people pouring scorn on the club's tweet aren't intelligent enough to avoid the non-sequitur... #mountain #molehill #storm #teacup It’s almost like the people who shrug their shoulders at it aren’t intelligent enough to understand why it’s a bit of a stupid thing to do 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapel End Posted 7 July, 2021 Share Posted 7 July, 2021 Why are people so upset about social media and why those that get upset bother with it if makes them get that way.... bit sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 7 July, 2021 Share Posted 7 July, 2021 He played well and we won so all good. Pompey fans must be FURIOUS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 8 July, 2021 Share Posted 8 July, 2021 Did he get injured or was it just a case of them lobbing another striker on? I lost track of what was going on with Denmark's team because of the appalling commentary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted 8 July, 2021 Share Posted 8 July, 2021 Well even if he does stay with us I assume he won’t be available until the end of August. holidays then a few weeks to get Ralph ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 8 July, 2021 Share Posted 8 July, 2021 20 minutes ago, The Cat said: Did he get injured or was it just a case of them lobbing another striker on? I lost track of what was going on with Denmark's team because of the appalling commentary. Yes they brought on a forward and he was subbed off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunglasses Ron Posted 8 July, 2021 Share Posted 8 July, 2021 Fairly sure Vest wasn't mentioned once last night as a Southampton player. Seemed odd to me. He played pretty well I thought, but Maguire in particular highlighted his shortcomings in terms of agility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 8 July, 2021 Share Posted 8 July, 2021 He was great last night, did us a favour playing Saka onside for the equaliser - sitting deeper than the rest of the back line 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted 8 July, 2021 Share Posted 8 July, 2021 1 hour ago, The Cat said: Did he get injured or was it just a case of them lobbing another striker on? I lost track of what was going on with Denmark's team because of the appalling commentary. Yes agree Matt Shutthefuckupafacejust talks shit for the sake of saying something stupidly irrelevant and just plain crap.Cant wait for the BBC on sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 8 July, 2021 Share Posted 8 July, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sunglasses Ron said: Fairly sure Vest wasn't mentioned once last night as a Southampton player. Seemed odd to me. He played pretty well I thought, but Maguire in particular highlighted his shortcomings in terms of agility. I thought he was very poor last night and very clumsy in tackles. He really isn't very good at all when you see him at this level. A very limited player, surely we can do much better than this. If Spurs really do offer £20m for him - which I doubt very much will happen - then grab the money before he changes his mind. Salisu can hardly be any worse can he? Edited 8 July, 2021 by Charlie Wayman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 8 July, 2021 Share Posted 8 July, 2021 1 hour ago, Sunglasses Ron said: Fairly sure Vest wasn't mentioned once last night as a Southampton player. Seemed odd to me. He played pretty well I thought, but Maguire in particular highlighted his shortcomings in terms of agility. Commentator is a skate isn’t he? Probably upset that Saints wished him luck !! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 8 July, 2021 Share Posted 8 July, 2021 16 minutes ago, beatlesaint said: Commentator is a skate isn’t he? Probably upset that Saints wished him luck !! Tbf, he’s a Chelsea fan but covered the skates when he worked at a radio station down there and blows their trumpet. He’s a shit commentator all the same. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunglasses Ron Posted 8 July, 2021 Share Posted 8 July, 2021 40 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said: I thought he was very poor last night and very clumsy in tackles. He really isn't very good at all when you see him at this level. A very limited player, surely we can do much better than this. If Spurs really do offer £20m for him - which I doubt very much will happen - then grab the money before he changes his mind. Salisu can hardly be any worse can he? Yeah, he is very limited indeed and when I say that he played pretty well it’s by his own standards and not others on the pitch. In fairness, he showed a few decent bits of creativity at times and didn’t embarrass himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 8 July, 2021 Share Posted 8 July, 2021 LCFC were in the same boat as us last night - no one in the England squad but they had Kasper Schmeichel whilst we had Vestegaard. This is what they tweeted: I would say better than "Do your thing, @JVestergaard7 ❤️" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 8 July, 2021 Share Posted 8 July, 2021 5 minutes ago, nta786 said: LCFC were in the same boat as us last night - no one in the England squad but they had Kasper Schmeichel whilst we had Vestegaard. This is what they tweeted: I would say better than "Do your thing, @JVestergaard7 ❤️" Quite. Nice job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 8 July, 2021 Share Posted 8 July, 2021 Perfect 👌 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piran Posted 8 July, 2021 Share Posted 8 July, 2021 3 hours ago, Sunglasses Ron said: Fairly sure Vest wasn't mentioned once last night as a Southampton player. Seemed odd to me. He played pretty well I thought, but Maguire in particular highlighted his shortcomings in terms of agility. I thought he played okay, too, last night. Clearly following the manager's tactics. A bit unfair to compare with Maguire, who did cost £80m! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunglasses Ron Posted 8 July, 2021 Share Posted 8 July, 2021 4 minutes ago, Piran said: I thought he played okay, too, last night. Clearly following the manager's tactics. A bit unfair to compare with Maguire, who did cost £80m! Maguire is a fantastic player, no doubt about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 8 July, 2021 Share Posted 8 July, 2021 Mad to think how much his level has increased between how he was when he first joined us to how he is playing now. Makes it more of a shame that we will probably just about get our money back for him and little more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveloyMush Posted 8 July, 2021 Share Posted 8 July, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Piran said: I thought he played okay, too, last night. Clearly following the manager's tactics. A bit unfair to compare with Maguire, who did cost £80m! I thought he was better than alright, playing on the left of a three/five - isn't that how Nuno likes to set up? He made some excellent passes, both long diagonals and through the middle, he also brought the ball out well a couple of times. Edited 8 July, 2021 by SaveloyMush 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now