Jeremy Corbyn Posted 16 October, 2020 Share Posted 16 October, 2020 Funny how our historic recruits seem more impressive with Ralph as manager. I suspect Messi might have looked pretty poor under MoPo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 18 October, 2020 Share Posted 18 October, 2020 Now pops up with a late goal. What a signing! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 18 October, 2020 Share Posted 18 October, 2020 His passing has been excellent in the last few matches. His confidence appears to be high, keen to bring the ball forward, and he's defending well. If only he was a bit faster than an oil tanker. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 18 October, 2020 Share Posted 18 October, 2020 31 minutes ago, Dark Munster said: His passing has been excellent in the last few matches. His confidence appears to be high, keen to bring the ball forward, and he's defending well. If only he was a bit faster than an oil tanker. He probably wouldn’t be playing for us if he was quick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 18 October, 2020 Share Posted 18 October, 2020 (edited) If he had pace he'd have cost us about twice the price and probably would have gone to a bigger club. I mean he is very dominant in the air and good on the ball, if he was quick as well he'd basically be the complete package as a centre-back and you pay £80 million plus for those (well not Maguire) but that is VVD money and the sort of money it would probably cost to get someone like Upamecano Good to see him improve though, tough first year but he seems to have become a little less keen to go win the ball on the front foot as much, which was catching him out as people were just spinning in behind him and seems a bit more solid in his positioning. Maybe the haircut helped. Still a little worried about him pushing up in the high line as the Werner goal showed, first time punt over the top if he doesn't manage to head it then anyone with pace is in and there a lot of fast strikers in this league. Edited 18 October, 2020 by tajjuk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 18 October, 2020 Share Posted 18 October, 2020 34 minutes ago, Dark Munster said: His passing has been excellent in the last few matches. His confidence appears to be high, keen to bring the ball forward, and he's defending well. If only he was a bit faster than an oil tanker. He’s got a fair shot on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 18 October, 2020 Share Posted 18 October, 2020 On 15/10/2020 at 17:45, Turkish said: Interesting to note that the club see a future for Elyanoussi too, a player written off by the fans but clearly Les and Ross were planning for the future too knowing he would need a couple of seasons on loan to make himself saints ready. They truly are visionaries. Presumably they factored in the arrival of Ralph Hasenhüttl as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint1 Posted 18 October, 2020 Share Posted 18 October, 2020 Reading back through this thread is good for a laugh. The recurring theme is JV has a poor game and is the worst CB this club has signed, should let him run down his contract and leave on a free because nobody will sign him. JV has a decent game and is finally proving the doubters wrong. Good that we kept faith in him. Rinse and repeat, typical SWF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 19 October, 2020 Share Posted 19 October, 2020 5 hours ago, woodsaint1 said: Rinse and repeat, typical SWF Typical football forums tbh. Reading the Chelsea/Saints match thread on their forum is amusing....the turnaround in what they were saying from 2-0 up to 2-2 is amusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 19 October, 2020 Share Posted 19 October, 2020 8 hours ago, woodsaint1 said: Reading back through this thread is good for a laugh. The recurring theme is JV has a poor game and is the worst CB this club has signed, should let him run down his contract and leave on a free because nobody will sign him. JV has a decent game and is finally proving the doubters wrong. Good that we kept faith in him. Rinse and repeat, typical SWF He's obviously somewhere between the two, but I think the disappointing thing last year was that we were signing a player we knew was slow but was apparently positionally aware of this, but would also dominate in the air and was good on the ball. So there was hope he could become a Mertesacker type defender, yes occasionally would get beaten for pace but generally good positioning and awareness would cover this. But last season that didn't really happen, he was in my opinion rash to come out and challenge the ball too far out of position, either getting spun by the attacker or leaving space in behind. He also didn't seem to be very dominant in the air and made some crucial mistakes with his passing. He has (so far) this season looked more what was described of how he was successful at Borussia Mönchengladbach, good on the ball with good range of passing, dominant in the air and solid in his positioning that his lack of pace. Let's hope it continues. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Corbyn Posted 19 October, 2020 Share Posted 19 October, 2020 He's decent on the ball, does well carrying it forward and picking out a pass - which is a useful added dimension to the attack. As mentioned he's very slow to get back, will just need to ensure that Diallo/Romeu is covering him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 19 October, 2020 Share Posted 19 October, 2020 Defence of KWP, Vestergaard, Salisu, Betrand could work though...pace all around him. Diallo in to sit in front and work backwards to cover him when he's up the pitch. Think he offers way more than Stephens and Bednarek when we have the ball, and if Bednarek isn't committed to the club, I'm not bothered about him playing. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Johnson Posted 25 October, 2020 Share Posted 25 October, 2020 Another cracking game from the big man today, looks the part at the moment, an aerial threat from corners too. Very happy he decided to stay and play for us 👍🏻👍🏻 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 25 October, 2020 Share Posted 25 October, 2020 (edited) To coin a cliche, he's like a new signing. Took two years (!) to settle, but suddenly he's looking like the centre back we thought we'd bought. Four starts, three clean sheets, unbeaten. He's much more calm and confident. I suppose it was inevitable in some way: if Hasenhuttl can make Stephens (temporarily) into a half decent defender, you'd think he could do wonders with someone with more to work with. More than happy to have been proven (hopefully not temporarily) wrong - Vestegaard has been different gravy this season. Keep it up, you big lunk. Edited 25 October, 2020 by qwertyell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 1 November, 2020 Share Posted 1 November, 2020 Another very decent performance from Vestegaard. Good header and one fantastic goal saving block. It seems the new hairstyle is playing dividends. Difficult to know where the enigmatic Salisu will fit in (if ever fit!!) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 1 November, 2020 Share Posted 1 November, 2020 Another good game for him today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 November, 2020 Share Posted 1 November, 2020 I'm pleased with how he's picked himself up, he was a calamity at the start for us. But he's simplified his game, he has better positioning and is now actually able to use his genuine advantage in defending (his height/power). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 1 November, 2020 Share Posted 1 November, 2020 Well done to him. Much safer pair of feet now. Except for when he goes for a dribble... don’t do that, Jannik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 November, 2020 Share Posted 1 November, 2020 8 minutes ago, Crab Lungs said: Well done to him. Much safer pair of feet now. Except for when he goes for a dribble... don’t do that, Jannik I think that's what he's cut out of his game, as I said he's simplified it. He used to try and do stupid things with the ball or get caught in positions he shouldn't be in, but he's just using his brain more now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M271 Posted 8 November, 2020 Share Posted 8 November, 2020 I wonder if Vestergaard has travelled to Denmark yet to join up with his national team. If he has he may not be able to travel back due to new government ban from Denmark due to Mink covid. England game v Iceland is in doubt due to them playing Denmark before then this week. Travel ban will be reviewed in a week. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54858614 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 8 November, 2020 Share Posted 8 November, 2020 3 minutes ago, M271 said: I wonder if Vestergaard has travelled to Denmark yet to join up with his national team. If he has he may not be able to travel back due to new government ban from Denmark due to Mink covid. England game v Iceland is in doubt due to them playing Denmark before then this week. Travel ban will be reviewed in a week. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54858614 Are elite sports exempt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M271 Posted 8 November, 2020 Share Posted 8 November, 2020 6 minutes ago, Turkish said: Are elite sports exempt? "Unlike other travel to the UK, there will be no exemptions to this quarantine policy," the guidance says. Since June, elite sportspeople have been exempt from coronavirus-related travel restrictions. The Football Association is awaiting clarification from the government. The latest rules, which took effect at 04:00 GMT on Saturday, will be reviewed after a week, the Department For Transport said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 8 November, 2020 Share Posted 8 November, 2020 As I read it he'll definitely be able return but he may have to quarantine for 14 days- as would several other Danish players in the PL, including some fella called Hojberg. This Danish mutation of the virus could be really bad news for a vaccine, which puts the importance of football in proportion IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 8 November, 2020 Share Posted 8 November, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ken Tone said: As I read it he'll definitely be able return but he may have to quarantine for 14 days- as would several other Danish players in the PL, including some fella called Hojberg. This Danish mutation of the virus could be really bad news for a vaccine, which puts the importance of football in proportion IMO. Ridiculous to have international matches on. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 8 November, 2020 Share Posted 8 November, 2020 Ralph really is working wonders on our players. Vester is another to have dramatically improved under him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddeer Posted 8 November, 2020 Share Posted 8 November, 2020 Surely Jan will just have a test when he gets back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 8 November, 2020 Share Posted 8 November, 2020 Surely if he returns and gets tested negative he shouldn't need to isolate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 8 November, 2020 Share Posted 8 November, 2020 2 hours ago, Ken Tone said: As I read it he'll definitely be able return but he may have to quarantine for 14 days- as would several other Danish players in the PL, including some fella called Hojberg. This Danish mutation of the virus could be really bad news for a vaccine, which puts the importance of football in proportion IMO. Mourinho just confirmed that PEH will miss the first two games for Denmark He will then travel to Belgium for that game sole game and he’d then be able to come back without any worries. I wish Jannik would consider similar for us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 8 November, 2020 Share Posted 8 November, 2020 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/11/08/england-clash-iceland-threat-due-new-travel-ban/?WT.mc_id=tmgliveapp_androidshare_AwM8JkwhDyGR Premier League telling clubs to not release players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 8 November, 2020 Share Posted 8 November, 2020 (edited) As our game was on Friday, what is the likelihood that Vestergaard was released by Saints earlier than the likes of Hojbjerg and has already travelled? Edited 8 November, 2020 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 8 November, 2020 Share Posted 8 November, 2020 2 hours ago, niceandfriendly said: Ralph really is working wonders on our players. Vester is another to have dramatically improved under him. Yes I am happy to say I have to eat my own words! along with che he's really turned it around! both of these players looked absolutely terrible beyond dire a couple of months back and now they look pretty special! maybe RH has given then the belief & lift they needed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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VectisSaint Posted 8 November, 2020 Share Posted 8 November, 2020 4 hours ago, Saint_clark said: Surely if he returns and gets tested negative he shouldn't need to isolate? Don't think there's a test for Mink Covid, that's the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 8 November, 2020 Share Posted 8 November, 2020 4 hours ago, Saint_clark said: Surely if he returns and gets tested negative he shouldn't need to isolate? Tests are usually only about 95% accurate and even then only tell what can be found in the blood at that moment. That's why testing at airports etc isn't good enough for certainty. Not worth the 1 in 20 risk of unknowingly bringing a mutated version of the virus into the UK *if* he's been infected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted 8 November, 2020 Share Posted 8 November, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 8 November, 2020 Share Posted 8 November, 2020 I've missed all this about the Mink stuff. Is it actually confirmed that it's a different strain? Could it not just be an outbreak of the same virus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted 8 November, 2020 Share Posted 8 November, 2020 Yes, there are several different strains that have jumped from human to mink and back again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW5 SAINT Posted 8 November, 2020 Share Posted 8 November, 2020 Who would have forecast this turn of events just a few months ago. https://www.rousingthekop.com/2020/11/07/jannik-vestergaard-liverpool/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddeer Posted 8 November, 2020 Share Posted 8 November, 2020 The club should be refusing to allow Vestergaard to travel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddeer Posted 9 November, 2020 Share Posted 9 November, 2020 Glad to see that, according to the Echo, the club have not allowed Jan to travel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 9 November, 2020 Share Posted 9 November, 2020 23 hours ago, SW5 SAINT said: Who would have forecast this turn of events just a few months ago. https://www.rousingthekop.com/2020/11/07/jannik-vestergaard-liverpool/ 23 hours ago, Teddeer said: The club should be refusing to allow Vestergaard to travel. To Liverpool ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 9 November, 2020 Share Posted 9 November, 2020 He's useful to us. Another £75m or he stays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 10 November, 2020 Share Posted 10 November, 2020 He's had a very good what last 3 months if you include re-start but that seems a bit much. I mean in January we couldn't get him out the door quick enough, fair play to him though much improved. Again though a bit like Stephens, you have to wonder whether this a purple patch of form and he'll return to more his old error prone self, or whether this a good defender who is finally showing his true ability after a poor first two seasons? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Corbyn Posted 10 November, 2020 Share Posted 10 November, 2020 He's a very good defender and footballer other than his lack of pace/agility. If that's not exposed (or he doesn't expose it himself) he's always looked decent. Maybe he's adjusted and learn how to avoid getting caught out so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 10 November, 2020 Share Posted 10 November, 2020 On 08/11/2020 at 23:26, SW5 SAINT said: Who would have forecast this turn of events just a few months ago. https://www.rousingthekop.com/2020/11/07/jannik-vestergaard-liverpool/ The Vest is no Dejan Lovren but any bid from the dipperati would need to be north of £50M... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Keef Posted 11 November, 2020 Share Posted 11 November, 2020 Joe Gomez injured on the England camp now. Could be a serious knee injury apparently. Gone back to Dipperland for scans . Southgate not sounding positive. I don't know where Jannik is with his contract at the moment, but methinks, based on his performances so far this season, maybe we need to secure him with a new contract or extension.......and I never thought I'd say that about the lad based on previous seasons. The transition has been remarkable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 11 November, 2020 Share Posted 11 November, 2020 On 10/11/2020 at 09:23, Jeremy Corbyn said: He's a very good defender and footballer other than his lack of pace/agility. If that's not exposed (or he doesn't expose it himself) he's always looked decent. Maybe he's adjusted and learn how to avoid getting caught out so much. I think it’s just that we’re winning the ball higher and quicker and therefore not getting exposed to that ball in behind him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 11 November, 2020 Share Posted 11 November, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Saint Keef said: Joe Gomez injured on the England camp now. Could be a serious knee injury apparently. Gone back to Dipperland for scans . Southgate not sounding positive. I don't know where Jannik is with his contract at the moment, but methinks, based on his performances so far this season, maybe we need to secure him with a new contract or extension.......and I never thought I'd say that about the lad based on previous seasons. The transition has been remarkable. I think the main question needs to be... Why the flying fuck is anyone playing international 'friendlies'? Why? These players hardly had any pre-season, the whole world is in restrictions of sort, yet Fifa and Uefa for some reason still feel International friendlies are important. In what world do they live in? It makes a mockery of all the restrictions and all the work the clubs are doing with these 'secure' bubbles, if these lads can just get on a plane and go to Timbuktu. Then on top of that they risk injury and 2 weeks isolation. Seriously, wtf is wrong with football. Edited 11 November, 2020 by S-Clarke 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Useful Idiot Posted 11 November, 2020 Share Posted 11 November, 2020 53 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Seriously, wtf is wrong with football. Money and greed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 12 November, 2020 Share Posted 12 November, 2020 8 hours ago, S-Clarke said: Why the flying fuck is anyone playing international 'friendlies'? Why? I'm sure the international break was two games, now they cram in 3........ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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