dubai_phil Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 We've got to go for Hoddle. we should have done five years ago. This time the vocal few will have to hold their tongues and put the club first. Hoddle won't be coming back, he's had a load of offers which he's turned down and just borrowed a heap of money to set up his academy in Spain. You can bet your life that they will have him tied to a contract that would cost HIM in the order of millions to get out. Just google the Newsbeat and other stories about it. It's as likely to happen as JP taking us to the playoffs this year. Sorry but. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 We've got to go for Hoddle. we should have done five years ago. This time the vocal few will have to hold their tongues and put the club first. Please explain how we could afford him? Please explain his record since he left Saints and at Wolves etc? There is a reason why he is not in football management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 I'd go for Dowie - let's have some of that Bouncebackability!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat from Poole Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Nigel Pearson. Oh damn, Mandaric's got the better of Lowe yet again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handyman Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Lowe to eat humble pie and beg Nigel Pearson to come back under his own terms! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever a red and white Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 none of them not dowie, not boothroyd, not route one ****, i know that pretty football not owrking now, but not hoof ****. hoddle maybe, but he was useless at wolves, but he would be better than jp without doubt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badvoc Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Keggy Keegan. If he wants a challenge without the big pressure of a Prem side Saints would be ideal. Big club at a low ebb. He could resurrect his name and enjoy himself agaain in the process. Please, please we need the passion of King Kev to give us something to cheer about... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 There a quite a few unrealistic candidates in terms of £££'s so for me the best realistic one is Paul Tisdale - when he took over at Exeter he inherited a club that had just come out of administration and was a mess (so he'd know what he was letting himself in for!) - they play good football and he has been successsful there on a small budget. From what I have seen he is strong minded and articulate and of course is an ex-Saint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Dowie - Ex saint might hve the passion needed Think he would be Leon Crouch's choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Think he would be Leon Crouch's choice. I would prefer Boothroyd but he is my second choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 18 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 18 January, 2009 none of them not dowie, not boothroyd, not route one ****, i know that pretty football not owrking now, but not hoof ****. hoddle maybe, but he was useless at wolves, but he would be better than jp without doubt football snob alert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocco boxo Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Jimmy Melia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 none of them not dowie, not boothroyd, not route one ****, i know that pretty football not owrking now, but not hoof ****. hoddle maybe, but he was useless at wolves, but he would be better than jp without doubt Would rather be successful doing that. Pretty football has got us nowhere for 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Portvliet still not been sacked?.....FFS:mad: He is going to keep his job isn`t he....:smt078 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Chris Marsden would make a good manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Roy Of The Rovers is still available and could also play up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egreog Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Bottom line is NOBODY will want the job!!....................so wish upon a star as long as we want!!........its a hopeless scenario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Roy Of The Rovers is still available and could also play up front. Can't we sign Billy The Fish,and the big breasted red indian squaw this transfer window whilst we're at it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 There a quite a few unrealistic candidates in terms of £££'s so for me the best realistic one is Paul Tisdale - when he took over at Exeter he inherited a club that had just come out of administration and was a mess (so he'd know what he was letting himself in for!) - they play good football and he has been successsful there on a small budget. From what I have seen he is strong minded and articulate and of course is an ex-Saint. Yes.I have suggested the same. However having gone through the turmoil at Exeter would he want to leave them whilst they are still in the ascendency,for us ? Especially if it meant getting caught up in the Lowe-Crouch crossfire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Saints Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Boothroyd would be my first choice but looks increasingly more likely he will get the Norwich job. Leaves Dowie or Cotterill, wouldn't mind either as both know English football and what it takes in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Dowie - Ex saint might hve the passion needed To an extent I agree. But we had that with Pearson. think he offers bit more than NP and more experienced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Can't we sign Billy The Fish,and the big breasted red indian squaw this transfer window whilst we're at it ? I knew my application for Manager had been binned, when, I didn't get invited to Ruperts 50th birthday party yesterday in Scotland...and I was available for both gigs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 How about Rupert Lowe? He'd be cheap He's available He has ties to the club Deep knowledge of football...... Oh b*gger, it was going so well up till then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Chris Marsden would make a good manager. Why?? He has less managerial experience than JP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Saints Trust spokesman Nick Illingsworth also held reservations about Pearson's appointment, believing the fans will need to be convinced about the move. "The appointment most people were looking for was a 'name' manager, the likes of Iain Dowie, Chris Coleman or even Kevin Blackwell," said Illingsworth. It's come as a surprise to me and it'll certainly come as a surprise to the fans Ex-Saints boss Dave Merrington "We had hoped for someone of that nature. This is a new way forward and it's either going to work spectacularly well or see great failure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Why?? He has less managerial experience than JP. We need a motivator and Marsden would be just that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 18 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 18 January, 2009 We need a motivator and Marsden would be just that. you are more mental than your arch nemesis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 you are more mental than your arch nemesis Says the sheep who only changes his mind to try to keep in with the crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 18 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Says the sheep who only changes his mind to try to keep in with the crowd. yes...that is right.. was against burley before most...was against jan before most...gave lowe the benefit of the doubt this time.. oh, was against lowe circa 2004 when was told to shut the feck up on here by nearly everyone.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 should have kept Burley! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 yes...that is right.. was against burley before most...was against jan before most...gave lowe the benefit of the doubt this time.. oh, was against lowe circa 2004 when was told to shut the feck up on here by nearly everyone.. Like everything you write - total crap. You say one thing one day and change your mind the next to try to be popular. Of all the posters on this site you are in the top 10 when it comes to complete tools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team-saint Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 JP has quite a lot of managerial experience, just not at this level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tac-tics Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 le tiss I would only want to see him at the club under new circumstances. A fresh regime upstairs etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Think he would be Leon Crouch's choice. Wouldnt be my first choice, but Dowie would certainly engender a will to win. Might work in a relegation battle. Certainly a better option than the current coach. EXTERMINATE! (sorry couldnt resist it!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 There a quite a few unrealistic candidates in terms of £££'s so for me the best realistic one is Paul Tisdale - when he took over at Exeter he inherited a club that had just come out of administration and was a mess (so he'd know what he was letting himself in for!) - they play good football and he has been successsful there on a small budget. From what I have seen he is strong minded and articulate and of course is an ex-Saint. Like who? We could afford Boothroyd, Dowie, Cotterill and pretty much anyone else on this list. Please, stop swallowing this lie that all we could afford was some second rate no mark from the Dutch leagues. It's simply not true and the fact that we've signed about twelve to fourteen players this season proves it. We can afford a bigger name than Tisdale, although it is right we keep an eye on his progress. And those suggesting Chris Marsden - that is just retarded. How about Chris Marsden goes out and makes some attempt to carve out a managerial or coaching career for himself before he gets parachuted in to the Saints managers job? Why not get some qualifications and some experience before he starts leeching off Saints and the fact he was a good player for a couple of seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Like who? We could afford Boothroyd, Dowie, Cotterill and pretty much anyone else on this list. We can afford a bigger name than Tisdale, although it is right we keep an eye on his progress. And those suggesting Chris Marsden - that is just retarded. How about Chris Marsden goes out and makes some attempt to carve out a managerial or coaching career for himself before he gets parachuted in to the Saints managers job? Why not get some qualifications and some experience before he starts leeching off Saints and the fact he was a good player for a couple of seasons. Dare I suggest it is this obsession with a "bigger name" ,at the expense of obtaining the best candidate perhaps,that is likely to cost us.Sure Dowie is a bigger name,but largely because he has his fair share of failures behind him. Agree with you about the suggestion of Marsden.Completely fanciful and bordering on the choice of simpletons,along with suggestions of 'Benali,MLT,Nick Holmes 'etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 do we really want any of the managers that have just been sacked by the teams around us?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 18 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 18 January, 2009 do we really want any of the managers that have just been sacked by the teams around us?? well who else is there..? any one of them have more experience to do the job than jan.... just because they have been sacked does not always mean they are to be over looked...we would not have got WGS if that was the case... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 (edited) well who else is there..? any one of them have more experience to do the job than jan.... just because they have been sacked does not always mean they are to be over looked...we would not have got WGS if that was the case... i didnt mean we shouldnt, as they obviously have more experience than jan but perhaps they need to be given a break to be mentally right for the job. if i remember rightly didnt WGS state that in between leaving coventry and joining us he reflected on what went wrong and watched a load of managers at their training grounds etc etc? i dont know who is right for our job,and at the moment i dont have a clue who i would want in charge but i know i would give my right arm for somebody in the mold of WGS. you've made me all emotional now:-) Edited 19 January, 2009 by lordswoodsaints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Don't think we'd afford any of those. As much point going on about Davies as there is Mourinho. Davies wouldn't have wanted to come here and we couldn't afford him. We don't have the money Forest do, we're a smaller club and from what I've seen recently, our fans are some of the worst around. Think we'd still be **** under a new manager if Lowe picked them as the atmosphere at SMS would remain utterly appalling. No idea who I'd pick from the cheap range, haven't watched much league 2 or conference stuff. Nick Holmes maybe. Henderson or Hockaday more likely. Used to like Boothroyd but he seemed to really lose it in the last couple of years. No he didn't. Watford's board was almost as bad as ours and rather screwed him over. Most Watford fans turned against him, but wrongly I believe, now they reap what they have sewn with the useless ineffective Brendan Rodgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedmaul Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 There a quite a few unrealistic candidates in terms of £££'s so for me the best realistic one is Paul Tisdale - when he took over at Exeter he inherited a club that had just come out of administration and was a mess (so he'd know what he was letting himself in for!) - they play good football and he has been successsful there on a small budget. From what I have seen he is strong minded and articulate and of course is an ex-Saint. Good call, interviewed him before Xmas (I'm a Sky sports cameraman), for a manager he's incredibly bright and astute. I asked if he'd ever consider the Saints job, off the record, he said that he'd be interested but would ask a lot of questions of the board - Direction, long term plans etc. Rupert would love him too as he wears a cravat in the dugout! I meet quite a few managers through my job, he's impressed me more than most. (Martinez at Swansea likewise, interviewed JP twice ... Didn't understand what he was saying, seemed a decent guy though). Burley interview was an eye opener ... Can't really say anymore on that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Summers Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Hoddle is someone i'd love, however he would need a season, thats the only problem. He was a fantastic manager down here, and ground out a lot of 1-0's and 2-0's and built from the back. He'd need a transfer window to get in some experience on the cheap. That, we don't have. From the above list, and being a Saints fans we can't be fussy, nor can we afford much, thats the main thing we need to bear in mind. So, we can't and won't afford Ince, Keane, Shearer, Keegan. Dowie would do the job, but don't reckon he'd be the right man. Boothroyd did exactly the same (young team) as this at Watford this year, and what has happened to him? Holloway would be the right ''kick up the arse'' choice and could fit within our price range. Can't really say much more that that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieDog Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Unfortunately JP is tarnished by his association with Lowe. No doubt given a totally free rein (ie NO interference from "above" over player choices), and with a sensible budget, he would have done a far better job. I still feel sorry for the guy, but I think he has passed the point of no return now, and can't see how he can turn things around. The trouble is - what decent (or even half-decent) Manager would want the poisoned chalice of managing Saints while Lowe is still around? There is no point in sacking JP if we can't replace him with anyone better. Rather than harp on about a different Manager, everyone's efforts should be focused on finding LEGAL ways in which to force the Lowe and the Board of Directors out. I wish I had a clue as to what they might be, other than a knight in shining armour suddenly appearing out of nowhere (that reminds me...I really must remember to keep buying those lottery tickets...), but for the life of me, I am lost for ideas. It is just too depressing for words. When I left the UK in 2003 we were in the top half of the Premier League and I thought we would be pushing on from there. Now, I'm almost glad I'm 12,000 miles away and don't get to see first hand what a laughing stock our team has become.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubai Saint Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 I do not understand why Dowie keeps getting jobs - he has been sacked 3 times, and twice in this league. Holloway is another, the Leicester team he took down was far better on paper than ours this time around. Curbishley would be top of the wish list but would not come, nor could we afford his wages. Joe Royle would do a job, plenty of experience, good contacts for loans etc. Gary Waddock would be at the other end of the spectrum, young, potential, promotion with Aldershot. Stuart Pearce is at least used to managing/coaching 19/20 year olds, and we all know how much Rupert loves the FA (Eng U21 part time) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Dare I suggest it is this obsession with a "bigger name" ,at the expense of obtaining the best candidate perhaps,that is likely to cost us.Sure Dowie is a bigger name,but largely because he has his fair share of failures behind him. Agree with you about the suggestion of Marsden.Completely fanciful and bordering on the choice of simpletons,along with suggestions of 'Benali,MLT,Nick Holmes 'etc. Yes, I accept that, "a big name for the sake of a big name" is not neccessarily the best for the club, as the experience with Burley, the biggest available name at the time, has shown. But the suggestion of Tisdale seemed to come from the angle that "we couldn't possibly afford anyone else" which is nonsense. We can afford any manager you care to name. Boothroyd, Cotterill, anyone. We could have afforded Billy Davies, we could have afforded any of them. We've pi s sed enough money up the wall on the fourteen new signings, plus three new coaches this season to prove that we have money to spend. So yep, Tisdale is worth consideration as "the best candidate" if that is what people think, but I am sick of this misconception that we are so awfully poor we can't afford to pay such managerial giants as Adrian Boothroyd and Steve Cotterill. Of course we bloody can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintDonkey Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Bottom line is NOBODY will want the job!!....................so wish upon a star as long as we want!!........its a hopeless scenario Nail on head. We're hopeless on the pitch. Any new man would be lambasted by some as a Lowe appointee and unless there was an immediate and dramatic improvement on the pitch the sheep would follow. He'll be criticized for being the cheap option - because with our present finances he will be - and we'll be stuck in the same mire we're in now. Remember how much Burley divided the fan base and yet for all of the criticism and in some cases raw hatred leveled against him he actually did quite well for us (purely statistically I don't want to re-open that debate!). Lowe must go before any manager can have the full support of the fans. (Once he has gone I'd take Dowie) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fareham saint phil Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Easy answer, he's done all he can up there and it's time for his sabbatical, he lives down here, and likes shopping in his local Tesco's. Just need Rupert to go and then WGS can come back. Piece of cake, problem solved and whenever i have spoken to him hes always full of the team etc, he loved his time here and as nothing surprises me in football he may well end up back here one day, heres hoping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cortee Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 WGS Pearson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 19 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 19 January, 2009 and whenever i have spoken to him hes always full of the team etc, he loved his time here and as nothing surprises me in football he may well end up back here one day, heres hoping imagine the feel good factor...and what would people think of lowe if he pulled that one out of the bag... imagien WGS saying at a press conference that he came back and lowe was a big part of it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Crouch should have appointed Dowie when he had the chance. The fact NP did so badly here and only survived on the last day of the season gave Lowe the ammunition to give him the bullet. Get Dowie in now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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