Saint Without a Halo Posted 30 June, 2018 Share Posted 30 June, 2018 Very good analysis (last but not one above) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 30 June, 2018 Share Posted 30 June, 2018 Weather forecast suggest there could be a lot of rain at both places, while the temperatures could be in the low 30s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 30 June, 2018 Share Posted 30 June, 2018 Hope that the Echo is right about the interest in Jannik Vestergaard, in fact The Sun mentioned it several days ago. For those who like a tall CB, this guy is 1.99m (6'5"). Looks to be just what we need. Currently, he's with Denmark in the World Cup so we'll have to be patient while Denmark are still in the competition. It would be nice to think that having another Dane, Pierrre-Emile Højbjerg in our squad could give us an advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batterseasaint Posted 30 June, 2018 Share Posted 30 June, 2018 Do you really think saints will run with 6 senior CBs? How many games do you think the 6th choice of those CBs will actually play? If we signed Marlon and Vestergaard, I would be very surprised if another CB didn’t go out. In the event of all three first choice CBs being out, Bertrand can just cover. For example, if Stephens is 6th choice and is on the rumoured £50k, than that is a huge waste of money? Yep, you’d always hope that your first choices don’t get injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 30 June, 2018 Share Posted 30 June, 2018 Hope that the Echo is right about the interest in Jannik Vestergaard, in fact The Sun mentioned it several days ago. For those who like a tall CB, this guy is 1.99m (6'5"). Looks to be just what we need. Currently, he's with Denmark in the World Cup so we'll have to be patient while Denmark are still in the competition. It would be nice to think that having another Dane, Pierrre-Emile Højbjerg in our squad could give us an advantage. It largely depends if Everton want him as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 30 June, 2018 Share Posted 30 June, 2018 What about the links with Ben Gibson? Any ITKers with any info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 30 June, 2018 Share Posted 30 June, 2018 What about the links with Ben Gibson? Any ITKers with any info They have all been hounded out, the witch hunt saw to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 30 June, 2018 Share Posted 30 June, 2018 (edited) Martin Caceres has been outstanding for Uruguay at the World Cup. Out of contract at Lazio at the end of this month, the more I think about it the more I think we should make a move to get him back. Top draw centre back with huge amount of experience. Edited 30 June, 2018 by davefizzy14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cartman Posted 30 June, 2018 Share Posted 30 June, 2018 Do you really think saints will run with 6 senior CBs? How many games do you think the 6th choice of those CBs will actually play? If we signed Marlon and Vestergaard, I would be very surprised if another CB didn’t go out. In the event of all three first choice CBs being out, Bertrand can just cover. For example, if Stephens is 6th choice and is on the rumoured £50k, than that is a huge waste of money? We don't seem to be in any hurry to get rid of either Targett or McQueen so wonder if Bertrand might actually be a left sided CB this season. It's not like he has never done it before and if Walker can do it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patred44 Posted 1 July, 2018 Share Posted 1 July, 2018 Talking of Targett, we have enquired about Jamal Lewis, Norwich Citys young left back, according to local papers up here. Maybe we are thinking of selling him to Fulham afterall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 1 July, 2018 Share Posted 1 July, 2018 Talking of Targett, we have enquired about Jamal Lewis, Norwich Citys young left back, according to local papers up here. Maybe we are thinking of selling him to Fulham afterall? sell Targett, sign Tierney. He can the provide cover at left back and play at centre back too. A player comfortable in both positions might be ideal as part of a three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 1 July, 2018 Share Posted 1 July, 2018 sell Targett, sign Tierney. He can the provide cover at left back and play at centre back too. A player comfortable in both positions might be ideal as part of a three. Tierney even plays right back for Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 1 July, 2018 Share Posted 1 July, 2018 Tierney even plays right back for Scotland. Something he might want to keep quiet about really :) Isn't Tierney going to Everton though ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananaman Posted 1 July, 2018 Share Posted 1 July, 2018 Martin Caceres has been outstanding for Uruguay at the World Cup. Out of contract at Lazio at the end of this month, the more I think about it the more I think we should make a move to get him back. Top draw centre back with huge amount of experience. I've said a few times on here, I will never understand why we didnt make a move following his temporary contract (maybe we did). I was not at squad training and, as such, have no idea of the quality shown from him nor do i know how much he demands in wages etc but always looks very cultured to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 1 July, 2018 Share Posted 1 July, 2018 I've said a few times on here, I will never understand why we didnt make a move following his temporary contract (maybe we did). I was not at squad training and, as such, have no idea of the quality shown from him nor do i know how much he demands in wages etc but always looks very cultured to me. Yeah exactly what I felt at the time. He really is top drawer. I wonder whether we can make a move back for him. He certainly knows the club's setup. Any ITKers have any more information on potential CB targets besides Gibson (I hope!) and Marlon? Any information on Caceres? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 1 July, 2018 Share Posted 1 July, 2018 I do remember Uncle Les being rubbished when he signed Caceras who was branded 'old crock looking for a fat chq' before we had seen him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 1 July, 2018 Share Posted 1 July, 2018 I do remember Uncle Les being rubbished when he signed Caceras who was branded 'old crock looking for a fat chq' before we had seen himHe was being rubbished for being in a situation where we were scrabbling around signing an out of contract player through sheer desperation after completely cocking up that January transfer window. We brought him in as emergency cover in case of injury to the third and fourth choice CBs we had. We had no interest in actually signing Caceres and only signed him because we were desperate. He wasn't "on trial" with a view to signing him, he wasn't part of any plans whatsoever. We played him once when we had two games in quick succession, then packed him off. Just a few dins on here thinking it was anything other than that. Delgado looked good in a world cup once as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 1 July, 2018 Share Posted 1 July, 2018 I reckon I’d look good playing alongside Godin & Gimenez Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 2 July, 2018 Share Posted 2 July, 2018 He was being rubbished for being in a situation where we were scrabbling around signing an out of contract player through sheer desperation after completely cocking up that January transfer window. We brought him in as emergency cover in case of injury to the third and fourth choice CBs we had. We had no interest in actually signing Caceres and only signed him because we were desperate. He wasn't "on trial" with a view to signing him, he wasn't part of any plans whatsoever. We played him once when we had two games in quick succession, then packed him off. Just a few dins on here thinking it was anything other than that. Delgado looked good in a world cup once as well. That about covers it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st alex Posted 2 July, 2018 Share Posted 2 July, 2018 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y5WpdCpGgw He looks very awkward in those clips, reminds me of Jhon Viafara. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 2 July, 2018 Share Posted 2 July, 2018 He looks very awkward in those clips, reminds me of Jhon Viafara. Didn't see anything in that that screamed sign him up, he'll cut it in the EPL. Danish geezer - Vestegaard - would be my preference, we don't need a ball playing shortarse at the back, unless it's alongside a tall brute. Or perhaps Marlon is seen as a DM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 2 July, 2018 Share Posted 2 July, 2018 Didn't see anything in that that screamed sign him up, he'll cut it in the EPL. Danish geezer - Vestegaard - would be my preference, we don't need a ball playing shortarse at the back, unless it's alongside a tall brute. Or perhaps Marlon is seen as a DM. And DMs we haven't already got enough of, right ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Mockles Posted 2 July, 2018 Share Posted 2 July, 2018 He was being rubbished for being in a situation where we were scrabbling around signing an out of contract player through sheer desperation after completely cocking up that January transfer window. We brought him in as emergency cover in case of injury to the third and fourth choice CBs we had. We had no interest in actually signing Caceres and only signed him because we were desperate. He wasn't "on trial" with a view to signing him, he wasn't part of any plans whatsoever. We played him once when we had two games in quick succession, then packed him off. Just a few dins on here thinking it was anything other than that. Delgado looked good in a world cup once as well. Yes, but after the injury crocked time we suffered (and value lost) with Jay-Rod, Austin, Svensson and Delgado, least we have learnt. Now we are supposed to be interested in Danny Ings. A player beset with injury. Constant knee problems resulting in hardly any game time at Liverpool. That seems a low cost, jigh risk gamble that can end being a costly waste in that you're paying wages to a player than never features. Like Mayuka, Ramirez, Osvaldo, Forren, Gardos, Filip Duricic, Bednarek (he's played a few games now), Caceres, ....etc. but for different reasons. They weren't overly injured but didn't appear good enough or to have the right temperament so scouting may need some extra diligence post losing Mitchell to Spurs. We lost a lot of staff and players to Spurs and Liverpool and look at how their performances and league position have improved whereas we lost a LOT of quality and look where we ended up. We had a great hit ratio in recent years and sold all them and now seem to be homing in on too many duffs. I think the latest signing, Moi (too tricky to spell surname) will do well. Good signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 2 July, 2018 Share Posted 2 July, 2018 And DMs we haven't already got enough of, right ! We have one proper holding DM Romeu. Lemina is more a box to box type and no one can convince my Hoj is a proper DM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 2 July, 2018 Share Posted 2 July, 2018 We have one proper holding DM Romeu. Lemina is more a box to box type and no one can convince my Hoj is a proper DM. then i very much hope we are signing a Barcelona B CB to come into that position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 2 July, 2018 Share Posted 2 July, 2018 then i very much hope we are signing a Barcelona B CB to come into that position Really why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 2 July, 2018 Share Posted 2 July, 2018 Really why? would kind of hope we sign a player who has traditionally played in that role and who generally plays most of his games like the last two signings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 2 July, 2018 Share Posted 2 July, 2018 We have one proper holding DM Romeu. Lemina is more a box to box type and no one can convince my Hoj is a proper DM. And the 12 million quid midget, what's he then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 2 July, 2018 Share Posted 2 July, 2018 would kind of hope we sign a player who has traditionally played in that role and who generally plays most of his games like the last two signings I agree. We won't be signing a DM this summer. Romeu will no doubt be first choice and if he is unavailable Hoj or Lemina will step in. Lemina's talents are wasted in that role though and Hoj is just crap at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 2 July, 2018 Share Posted 2 July, 2018 And the 12 million quid midget, what's he then ? What Clasie? box to box for me or at least he would be if his 20 a day habit didn't have him blowing out his arse after 25 minutes.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 2 July, 2018 Share Posted 2 July, 2018 Read up on him. He wasn't much appreciated at Nice and Viera didn't seem to want him. Played as a CB for Nice. Why anyone would think we'd get a work permit for him is anyone's guess really. Perhaps he has some other non-noted nationality in his baggage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 2 July, 2018 Share Posted 2 July, 2018 What Clasie? box to box for me or at least he would be if his 20 a day habit didn't have him blowing out his arse after 25 minutes.. Obviously stunted his growth then:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 2 July, 2018 Share Posted 2 July, 2018 From Barcelona: Suggestion West Ham may not have lost transfer to Southampton yet http://sportwitness.co.uk/spain-southampton-willing-pay-e12m-player-wanted-west-ham/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 2 July, 2018 Share Posted 2 July, 2018 I see Wikipedia says he's 182 cm, which is a massive 27/32 of an inch taller than the 5 ' 11" we'd been led to believe. All he needs is some long studs and he'll be as good as 6 foot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 2 July, 2018 Share Posted 2 July, 2018 To be fair I really cant see us signing a guy who doesnt play for a team that doesnt need to defend in la liga. Give me the danish bloke who has to defend every game and starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 2 July, 2018 Share Posted 2 July, 2018 Dave Watson, one of our best ever centre backs, was also under 6 foot. Didn't stop him. http://www.sporting-heroes.net/content/thumbnails/00258/25714-zoom.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 2 July, 2018 Share Posted 2 July, 2018 What Clasie? box to box for me or at least he would be if his 20 a day habit didn't have him blowing out his arse after 25 minutes.. Definitely box to box. I have a feeling we may see a bit more of Clasie this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 2 July, 2018 Share Posted 2 July, 2018 Definitely box to box. I have a feeling we may see a bit more of Clasie this year. I quite like him, but just feel it's a position we're well stocked in. Romeu, Lemina, Hojbjerg, Davis, Armstrong, JWP, Reed, Clasie, Hesketh, Slattery... We need a few to be cut I feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 2 July, 2018 Share Posted 2 July, 2018 Definitely box to box. I have a feeling we may see a bit more of Clasie this year. Will be interesting to see. I'm not convinced he makes the "25". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 2 July, 2018 Share Posted 2 July, 2018 Definitely box to box. I have a feeling we may see a bit more of Clasie this year.Can you really be a box to box midfielder if you're physically spent after an hour? I would've thought stamina was a requirement of the role. Sent from my F3311 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 2 July, 2018 Share Posted 2 July, 2018 I have a feeling we may see a bit more of Clasie this year. which league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 2 July, 2018 Share Posted 2 July, 2018 I quite like him, but just feel it's a position we're well stocked in. Romeu, Lemina, Hojbjerg, Davis, Armstrong, JWP, Reed, Clasie, Hesketh, Slattery... We need a few to be cut I feel. You’ll get the odd weirdo saying Stephens should play DM too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 2 July, 2018 Share Posted 2 July, 2018 Clasie is the Dutch Iniesta. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 2 July, 2018 Share Posted 2 July, 2018 I quite like him, but just feel it's a position we're well stocked in. Romeu, Lemina, Hojbjerg, Davis, Armstrong, JWP, Reed, Clasie, Hesketh, Slattery... We need a few to be cut I feel. Reed is likely gone, Davis's legs have gone. Romeu needs to prove that last season was the career outlier - and not the year before. The thing is, to replace players in that position with only a half decent back up, you're going to pay £10m/40k p/w, which is Clasie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackedoff Posted 2 July, 2018 Share Posted 2 July, 2018 I vote that we should get the Danish bloke instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 2 July, 2018 Share Posted 2 July, 2018 What’s Clasie got to do with Marlon? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 2 July, 2018 Share Posted 2 July, 2018 (edited) He looks very awkward in those clips, reminds me of Jhon Viafara. a big no from me based on that short video. Looks like he doesn't have the size required, physicality or pace and he isn't convincing with the ball. I like centre backs that can play, but a few too many Cruyff turns. We need a dominating monster of a player. Edited 2 July, 2018 by Chez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 2 July, 2018 Share Posted 2 July, 2018 Definitely box to box. I have a feeling we may see a bit more of Clasie this year.He is ****e. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 2 July, 2018 Share Posted 2 July, 2018 Agreed to lightweight sell Clasie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Mulgrew Posted 3 July, 2018 Share Posted 3 July, 2018 If we buy any CB from Barca it should be Mina, not Marlon. He certainly knows how to keep Sterling in his pocket! A beast of a defender, tall, positionally astute, a good reader of the game and header of the ball in both penalty areas and takes no prisoners. Oh, and can shrug off a groin injury. What's not to like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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