Daft Kerplunk Posted 27 September, 2021 Author Share Posted 27 September, 2021 4 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: I think when we get a fully fit squad, Stuart Armstrong on the right, and Tella or Djenepo on the left would be my preference...thought Moussa did more in 10 mins yesterday than Redmond and Elyounoussi did all game. The thing with Djneppo is that he does run around, looks lively but that ‘through ball’ hit way beyond the overlapping runner late on that went out for a goal kick summed him up. His production rate is terrible. 49 matches, 3 goals and 2 assists. We desperately need attacking midfielders who produce goals and assists. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 27 September, 2021 Share Posted 27 September, 2021 23 minutes ago, Daft Kerplunk said: The thing with Djneppo is that he does run around, looks lively but that ‘through ball’ hit way beyond the overlapping runner late on that went out for a goal kick summed him up. His production rate is terrible. 49 matches, 3 goals and 2 assists. We desperately need attacking midfielders who produce goals and assists. But isn't this the point....despite those stats, he's still one of the best we have...Redmond, Walcott, Elyounoussi, Djenepo...I'm not sure any of them are good enough to be starters in the premier league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted 27 September, 2021 Share Posted 27 September, 2021 None of Redmond, Walcott, Elyounoussi, Djenepo and Long are good enough the answer is to play Armstrong and Tino as the number 10s / attacking midfielders and give Tella some game time. At least he will get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 27 September, 2021 Share Posted 27 September, 2021 He's improved, but he's still not good enough. Not strong enough, not quick enough. He'll never make any noticeable impact at this level. We'll sell him for buttons in the summer or for free the next year. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 27 September, 2021 Share Posted 27 September, 2021 11 hours ago, Patrick Bateman said: Ward-Prowse has been sh*t recently. Slow, ponderous, sideways, backwards and completely incapable of landing a corner or free kick on the head of his own team mates. Every single time, the opposition gets an easy head away. I think there was ONE free kick that was quick, low and dangerous, but the rest are crap. Dead ball specialist ... He needs to step back up. No corner kicker, no free kick specialist will land the ball on the head of any of our forwards because the front line is ridiculously small except for Broja who didn't even get a kick never mind a header. have they won a header all season? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ldnsaint Posted 27 September, 2021 Share Posted 27 September, 2021 Awful player, said it for years. Too slow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 27 September, 2021 Share Posted 27 September, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, Red said: Agree but who would you replace him with that is fit? Redders, Theo, Jenny are arguably all worse. I just don't get why we wouldn't at least try Tella or Tino there for at least one half? It’s certainly what anyone with a semblance of football knowledge - fan or manager - would be doing. Insult to Tella to put on Long, who would struggle in get in most Championship squads let alone first XI, ahead of him yesterday. KWP and TL would be an awesome right hand side, give Perraud and Moussa a run on the left. Moussa has many limitations but he does work hard for his full back. Anyone who thinks Shane Long is a better bet to turn a game around than Nathan Tella, or thinks Redmond/Theo should start in the PL ahead of KWP/Livra shouldn’t be allowed near a professional football club. Even the skates. Edited 27 September, 2021 by saint1977 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren2 Posted 27 September, 2021 Share Posted 27 September, 2021 2 hours ago, saint1977 said: Anyone who thinks Shane Long is a better bet to turn a game around than Nathan Tella, Can't help but feel that the club are keeping Tella out of the shop window. He only has one year left on his contract at the end of the season. Why show him off to the big clubs for them to pick him up for almost nothing. Better to hold him back and get his contract extended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 27 September, 2021 Share Posted 27 September, 2021 1 hour ago, darren2 said: Can't help but feel that the club are keeping Tella out of the shop window. He only has one year left on his contract at the end of the season. Why show him off to the big clubs for them to pick him up for almost nothing. Better to hold him back and get his contract extended. Brilliant, how did that strategy work with Jankewitz? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 28 September, 2021 Share Posted 28 September, 2021 Tella should be given an extension and told that he will be playing much more regularly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 28 September, 2021 Share Posted 28 September, 2021 20 hours ago, darren2 said: Can't help but feel that the club are keeping Tella out of the shop window. He only has one year left on his contract at the end of the season. Why show him off to the big clubs for them to pick him up for almost nothing. Better to hold him back and get his contract extended. Great idea, hold Tella back and get relegated, financially that would have to be one of the stupidest ideas ever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Albert Posted 28 September, 2021 Share Posted 28 September, 2021 On 27/09/2021 at 00:48, Patrick Bateman said: Ward-Prowse has been sh*t recently. Slow, ponderous, sideways, backwards and completely incapable of landing a corner or free kick on the head of his own team mates. Every single time, the opposition gets an easy head away. I think there was ONE free kick that was quick, low and dangerous, but the rest are crap. Dead ball specialist ... He needs to step back up. To be fair he’s probably absolutely knackered, run into the ground by Ralph, But little choice does Ralph not to pick him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 28 September, 2021 Share Posted 28 September, 2021 On 26/09/2021 at 20:46, Saint Garrett said: Works quite hard but that’s about it. No pace, no trickery, no goal threat, no power, no aerial ability….he’s nowhere near good enough IMO just like Redmond and Dejenepo he is a crap decision maker too always wants an extra touch or makes the wrong pass 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 18 October, 2021 Share Posted 18 October, 2021 ...........and now for the latest gossip. Are Arsenal REALLY interested in buying Mo. E (?)...or is this just paper talk, or a space filler for some journos column. To be fair, when Mo arrived he was played out of position (whatever that was) ....in a team that was shipping goals and had little to offer in terms of positive results. Ralph seemingly took advice and let him have a crack at SPL with Celtic. Certainly Mo looks a totally different player now to the one who went away two years ago, and found his goal touch in Scotland and with Norway. He is also a player who has some " real time " left on his Saints contract (till June 2023). Personally I'd like to see him in a successful role with Saints, but IF he were to move to pastures " greener" then we should take advantage of a good fee from clubs who normally pay from their petty cash account ....to the likes of Saints. At the end of the day, it's down to the player but Saints could do well in the transfer market with a hefty sum for his move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 18 October, 2021 Share Posted 18 October, 2021 19 minutes ago, david in sweden said: ...........and now for the latest gossip. Are Arsenal REALLY interested in buying Mo. E (?)...or is this just paper talk, or a space filler for some journos column. To be fair, when Mo arrived he was played out of position (whatever that was) ....in a team that was shipping goals and had little to offer in terms of positive results. Ralph seemingly took advice and let him have a crack at SPL with Celtic. Certainly Mo looks a totally different player now to the one who went away two years ago, and found his goal touch in Scotland and with Norway. He is also a player who has some " real time " left on his Saints contract (till June 2023). Personally I'd like to see him in a successful role with Saints, but IF he were to move to pastures " greener" then we should take advantage of a good fee from clubs who normally pay from their petty cash account ....to the likes of Saints. At the end of the day, it's down to the player but Saints could do well in the transfer market with a hefty sum for his move. If true we should bite their arm off. A couple of decent games in the 3 years since he signed it’s laughable anyone better than us would want him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 18 October, 2021 Share Posted 18 October, 2021 Agent talk I’d expect. not sure he gets in any other Prem team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 18 October, 2021 Share Posted 18 October, 2021 I joined this Forum because I thought I was joining Saints fans. its really sad there is so much hostility, bitterness, criticism of our own players. The worst was the treatment of Sadio Mane---now he's scored a hundred goals for somebody else. Now its Mo E and Redders and of course JWP. He may be the captain and been here since a boy and given his all year after year but still can't win the 'fans'. I wonder any of them stay. I actually like my team 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 18 October, 2021 Share Posted 18 October, 2021 3 minutes ago, Dellman said: I joined this Forum because I thought I was joining Saints fans. its really sad there is so much hostility, bitterness, criticism of our own players. The worst was the treatment of Sadio Mane---now he's scored a hundred goals for somebody else. Now its Mo E and Redders and of course JWP. He may be the captain and been here since a boy and given his all year after year but still can't win the 'fans'. I wonder any of them stay. I actually like my team This mythical "treatment" of Sadio Mane was seven years ago. You probably should be able to get over it by now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayling Saint Posted 18 October, 2021 Share Posted 18 October, 2021 15 minutes ago, Dellman said: I joined this Forum because I thought I was joining Saints fans. its really sad there is so much hostility, bitterness, criticism of our own players. The worst was the treatment of Sadio Mane---now he's scored a hundred goals for somebody else. Now its Mo E and Redders and of course JWP. He may be the captain and been here since a boy and given his all year after year but still can't win the 'fans'. I wonder any of them stay. I actually like my team Spot on! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 19 October, 2021 Share Posted 19 October, 2021 Thought he had a good game v Leeds. Can only base my opinion on what I actually see. Unlike some of the bandwagon jumpers on here. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 19 October, 2021 Share Posted 19 October, 2021 23 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said: Thought he had a good game v Leeds. Can only base my opinion on what I actually see. Unlike some of the bandwagon jumpers on here. I think he's looked much better and can see some confidence has returned scoring goals for club and Country, should have had one against Leeds if he'd got on the end of Brojas flick on. I know it's an inferior league but he had a couple of very good seasons at Celtic on loan , not a bad option for us to have in the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 19 October, 2021 Share Posted 19 October, 2021 1 minute ago, JRM said: I think he's looked much better and can see some confidence has returned scoring goals for club and Country, should have had one against Leeds if he'd got on the end of Brojas flick on. I know it's an inferior league but he had a couple of very good seasons at Celtic on loan , not a bad option for us to have in the squad. Being looked at by Arsenal and Leicester apparently Arsenal 'monitoring Mohamed Elyounoussi transfer alongside Leicester' after Southampton wingers stunning start to season (thesun.co.uk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 19 October, 2021 Share Posted 19 October, 2021 49 minutes ago, John B said: Being looked at by Arsenal and Leicester apparently Arsenal 'monitoring Mohamed Elyounoussi transfer alongside Leicester' after Southampton wingers stunning start to season (thesun.co.uk) he’s been okay but “Stunning start” “dazzling displays” 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 19 October, 2021 Share Posted 19 October, 2021 1 hour ago, John B said: Being looked at by Arsenal and Leicester apparently Arsenal 'monitoring Mohamed Elyounoussi transfer alongside Leicester' after Southampton wingers stunning start to season (thesun.co.uk) He will need to take some diving lessons from big Penny down the road, first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 19 October, 2021 Share Posted 19 October, 2021 1 hour ago, John B said: Being looked at by Arsenal and Leicester apparently Arsenal 'monitoring Mohamed Elyounoussi transfer alongside Leicester' after Southampton wingers stunning start to season (thesun.co.uk) He certainly looks much better than he did before he went to Celtic on loan, but it's a bit of a stretch to describe his start to the season as "stunning". Aside from a Hattrick against a very poor Newport, how many goals and assists has he got so far? He works very hard in the press, I'll give him that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyNumber7 Posted 19 October, 2021 Share Posted 19 October, 2021 3 hours ago, Sheaf Saint said: He certainly looks much better than he did before he went to Celtic on loan, but it's a bit of a stretch to describe his start to the season as "stunning". Aside from a Hattrick against a very poor Newport, how many goals and assists has he got so far? He works very hard in the press, I'll give him that. Scored at Newcastle too, don't know about assists. He's certainly improved and been decent so far, looks a lot more confident. But to say he's been stunning just wrong. I don't believe for a second that Arsenal are interested in him, then again they did sign Cedric! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 19 October, 2021 Share Posted 19 October, 2021 12 hours ago, Dellman said: I joined this Forum because I thought I was joining Saints fans. its really sad there is so much hostility, bitterness, criticism of our own players. The worst was the treatment of Sadio Mane---now he's scored a hundred goals for somebody else. Now its Mo E and Redders and of course JWP. He may be the captain and been here since a boy and given his all year after year but still can't win the 'fans'. I wonder any of them stay. I actually like my team I agree and well said. I think all our players are brilliant. Every single one of them. I also think the manager is awesome. In fact I'm staggered by why we're not top of the league given our brilliant players and awesome manager. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midfield_General Posted 19 October, 2021 Share Posted 19 October, 2021 6 hours ago, John B said: Being looked at by Arsenal and Leicester apparently Arsenal 'monitoring Mohamed Elyounoussi transfer alongside Leicester' after Southampton wingers stunning start to season (thesun.co.uk) Good old Leicester. Got a couple of stunning goalkeepers too if you're interested lads 👍 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 19 October, 2021 Share Posted 19 October, 2021 16 hours ago, Dellman said: I joined this Forum because I thought I was joining Saints fans. its really sad there is so much hostility, bitterness, criticism of our own players. The worst was the treatment of Sadio Mane---now he's scored a hundred goals for somebody else. Now its Mo E and Redders and of course JWP. He may be the captain and been here since a boy and given his all year after year but still can't win the 'fans'. I wonder any of them stay. I actually like my team Redmond has received criticism on here because he's been utterly appalling for what, 2 years on the trot now. It's not like people have a personal vendetta against him. He played well against Leeds, and I'm sure those who have criticised him wish for that to continue, because we're Saints fans. Being a Saints fan doesn't mean you blindly praise everybody involved with the club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunglasses Ron Posted 19 October, 2021 Share Posted 19 October, 2021 17 hours ago, Dellman said: I joined this Forum because I thought I was joining Saints fans. its really sad there is so much hostility, bitterness, criticism of our own players. The worst was the treatment of Sadio Mane---now he's scored a hundred goals for somebody else. Now its Mo E and Redders and of course JWP. He may be the captain and been here since a boy and given his all year after year but still can't win the 'fans'. I wonder any of them stay. I actually like my team I personally don't have an issue if fans criticise players for whatever reason. However, I think that then rules them out of the right to lay into them if they come good and then leave us for a bigger club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 19 October, 2021 Share Posted 19 October, 2021 18 hours ago, Dellman said: I joined this Forum because I thought I was joining Saints fans. its really sad there is so much hostility, bitterness, criticism of our own players. The worst was the treatment of Sadio Mane---now he's scored a hundred goals for somebody else. Now its Mo E and Redders and of course JWP. He may be the captain and been here since a boy and given his all year after year but still can't win the 'fans'. I wonder any of them stay. I actually like my team Correct, it is a forum for saints fans. That means that the those will express views and opinions about the club, the management, the players, the performances etc. I'm not sure what the issue is with honest opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAH61 Posted 19 October, 2021 Share Posted 19 October, 2021 If we can get can recoup most of what we outlayed for him then we should definitely take it. The Leeds match was about the only time I thought that he could actually cut it the PL and his goals/assists stats back this up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 19 October, 2021 Share Posted 19 October, 2021 5 hours ago, niceandfriendly said: Redmond has received criticism on here because he's been utterly appalling for what, 2 years on the trot now. It's not like people have a personal vendetta against him. He played well against Leeds, and I'm sure those who have criticised him wish for that to continue, because we're Saints fans. Being a Saints fan doesn't mean you blindly praise everybody involved with the club. Redmond isn’t appalling he is exactly the player we purchased, decent midfielder who runs very hot and cold and isn’t clinical in front of goal. If he was consistent and a better finisher he wouldn’t be in our squad anymore! He is like many of our players a decent pro our problem at the minute is we lack the one or two outstanding players we have had every year since promotion loosing ings has finally left the cupboard bare we need to find W couple of affordable gems to add to a decent squad that will put us back in mid table. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HnycS Posted 19 October, 2021 Share Posted 19 October, 2021 2 minutes ago, a1ex2001 said: Redmond isn’t appalling he is exactly the player we purchased, decent midfielder who runs very hot and cold and isn’t clinical in front of goal. If he was consistent and a better finisher he wouldn’t be in our squad anymore! He is like many of our players a decent pro our problem at the minute is we lack the one or two outstanding players we have had every year since promotion loosing ings has finally left the cupboard bare we need to find W couple of affordable gems to add to a decent squad that will put us back in mid table. We have several "affordable gems' unfortunately two are at right back Tino and KWP, will be interesting to see how this gets resolved. Then both Salisu and Diallo are heading in that direction. Problem is they are all on the defensive side. In attack Lets hope for a breakout season for Tella and Broja, though I doubt the later will be in the affordable gem category (for Saints at least). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 19 October, 2021 Share Posted 19 October, 2021 23 hours ago, CB Fry said: This mythical "treatment" of Sadio Mane was seven years ago. You probably should be able to get over it by now. Yep and when last asked for proof on this forum one comment was found after his second game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 19 October, 2021 Share Posted 19 October, 2021 16 hours ago, Turkish said: he’s been okay but “Stunning start” “dazzling displays” Hey, if journos want to build him up we could get more for him. Let the chatter keep flowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 20 October, 2021 Share Posted 20 October, 2021 1 hour ago, SFC Forever said: Hey, if journos want to build him up we could get more for him. Let the chatter keep flowing. the Norwegian 'Messi' I heard him described as... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 20 October, 2021 Share Posted 20 October, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, hypochondriac said: Yep and when last asked for proof on this forum one comment was found after his second game. He was definitely getting pelters on here but it's hard to dig out the exact threads Edited 20 October, 2021 by Ex Lion Tamer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 20 October, 2021 Share Posted 20 October, 2021 12 minutes ago, Ex Lion Tamer said: He was definitely getting pelters on here but it's hard to dig out the exact threads It was after Sheffield United away. He was awful but so was everyone else and there were some classic comments on here. “Worst player since Ali dia” “fuck off back where he came from” “what waste of Mane” there were loads of our great fans giving him heaps. Our fans tend to be like that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 22 October, 2021 Share Posted 22 October, 2021 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/oct/22/mohamed-elyounoussi-norway-world-cup-qatar-southampton-haaland 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 22 October, 2021 Share Posted 22 October, 2021 On the subject of average midfielders returning this can’t be true surely… https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/19667660.reports-italy-link-filip-djuricic-saints-return/#comments-anchor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintadjg Posted 22 October, 2021 Share Posted 22 October, 2021 On 19/10/2021 at 16:30, niceandfriendly said: Redmond has received criticism on here because he's been utterly appalling for what, 2 years on the trot now. It's not like people have a personal vendetta against him. He played well against Leeds, and I'm sure those who have criticised him wish for that to continue, because we're Saints fans. Being a Saints fan doesn't mean you blindly praise everybody involved with the club. Absolutely I can't stand Redmond I think he's blocking the path for others. But I'd be as happy as a pig in shit if he proved me wrong. Though sadly history says he most likely won't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 23 October, 2021 Share Posted 23 October, 2021 On 20/10/2021 at 08:13, Turkish said: It was after Sheffield United away. He was awful but so was everyone else and there were some classic comments on here. “Worst player since Ali dia” “fuck off back where he came from” “what waste of Mane” there were loads of our great fans giving him heaps. Our fans tend to be like that. In fairness, he’d looked really poor at the start of that season, and that Sheff Utd cup game was a disgrace all around, and Mane looked like he’d never played football before. Then a few weeks later, just before he buggered off to the ACON, he smashed Chelsea and gave Terry the run around and never looked back. He deserved criticism at that time, his performances were rubbish, but he also got a huge amount of praise in the follleimy months. That’s football, He turned a corner. Some wrote him off, some realised he had potential and it was a matter of trying to unearth it. Gave us all a lesson (including myself) not to write off a young player too quickly, especially one who has come in from another country! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulwantsapint81 Posted 23 October, 2021 Share Posted 23 October, 2021 ME requires surgery on hand injury without a break in fixtures till late January depending on FA Cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Saint Posted 23 October, 2021 Share Posted 23 October, 2021 Mo interviewed in todays Guardian https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/oct/22/mohamed-elyounoussi-norway-world-cup-qatar-southampton-haaland 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 24 October, 2021 Share Posted 24 October, 2021 In my view Mo has improved a good deal since his return from Celtic. He did nothing to impress me (and others) during his first spell at Saints. His performances, whilst not outstanding, are enough to warrant him a place in the starting 11. One things that has surprised me is that he wins a fair amount of aerial duals and wasnt too far away from scoring in the first half with a looping header. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 24 October, 2021 Share Posted 24 October, 2021 34 minutes ago, spyinthesky said: In my view Mo has improved a good deal since his return from Celtic. Whilst true, unfortunately it’s not that he’s playing particularly well now, its more an indication of just how shite he was previously. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapel End Posted 24 October, 2021 Share Posted 24 October, 2021 1 hour ago, Lord Duckhunter said: Whilst true, unfortunately it’s not that he’s playing particularly well now, its more an indication of just how shite he was previously. He is doing well, you are incapable of giving any credit to any of our players, very odd for a fan tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 24 October, 2021 Share Posted 24 October, 2021 On 23/10/2021 at 00:52, saintadjg said: Absolutely I can't stand Redmond I think he's blocking the path for others. But I'd be as happy as a pig in shit if he proved me wrong. Though sadly history says he most likely won't. Pigs are extremely clean animals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 24 October, 2021 Share Posted 24 October, 2021 14 minutes ago, Chapel End said: He is doing well, you are incapable of giving any credit to any of our players, very odd for a fan tbh Doing well? He’s not good enough, if writing it upsets nods, so be it. Perhaps you missed my posts praising Tino, KWP, OR, etc, seems a bit strange you missed them, as you seem to pay particular interest in my opinions. Odd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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