Pilchards Posted 24 June, 2018 Share Posted 24 June, 2018 A very true article. ’Use Saints as a stepping stone to play for a top 6 club.’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 24 June, 2018 Share Posted 24 June, 2018 A very true article. ’Use Saints as a stepping stone to play for a top 6 club.’ Not a problem, because for that to happen he'd have to play exceptionally well for Saints... so Saints would benefit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 24 June, 2018 Share Posted 24 June, 2018 Not a problem, because for that to happen he'd have to play exceptionally well for Saints... so Saints would benefit. Please tell me even you get fed up Liverpool taking all our best players and doing so well in the champions league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 24 June, 2018 Share Posted 24 June, 2018 A very true article. ’Use Saints as a stepping stone to play for a top 6 club.’ That's not quite what the article says Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 24 June, 2018 Share Posted 24 June, 2018 Armstrong v Maddison watch this season then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 That's not quite what the article says “If he goes there and has a good season or two, he could easily end up at one of the top six clubs in England.” Does it not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 Personally I hope we don't sign anyone, because it would just mean those players are using their current clubs as stepping stones to play for us. That's definitely wrong so I hope it is stamped out. Disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 Agree. We should only sign players with zero ambition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 The 26-year-old has travelled south for a medical after Celtic agreed terms with Saints over the weekend and is expected to be unveiled by the Premier League side on Wednesday. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stuart-armstrong-undergo-southampton-medical-12784750 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 Reading the Celtic forum and chatting to Celtic fans this weekend they view outgoing transfers a lot different than us. Reason being is they have faith in the recruitment team to sign a better player + they can be confident that any funds received will get reinvested back into the team. That's my main gripe with our outflows....we are so hit n miss (far more miss lately) with recruitment and money does seem to just vanish. I'd prefer we kept even average players as I have zero faith in Reed and / or Wilson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 I think he's a decent player. Hopefully he comes and does well. He should add something a bit different to our midfield with respect to goals, and for the money you can't really argue. What concerns me is that it was obvious last year that we needed another attacking mid / winger to take people on, link play, and create chances. We haven't made any real moves to sign one yet, and we're selling Tadic for half what he will cost to replace. Needs to be addressed PDQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 I think he's a snip at £7m and has a high floor, so that even if he doesn't become our poor man's Lampard, at worst, we'll still get a player who works hard for the team and puts a shift in every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 Seems like it's worth a go for such a small amount of cash. Not the lost inspiring signing in the world but our big money buys have mostly been rubbish in the past few years so he's worth a try. I would hope we get at least one exciting signing with the vvd cash though in the mould of a mane or someone like that with raw talent. We shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 Reading the Celtic forum and chatting to Celtic fans this weekend they view outgoing transfers a lot different than us. Reason being is they have faith in the recruitment team to sign a better player + they can be confident that any funds received will get reinvested back into the team. That's my main gripe with our outflows....we are so hit n miss (far more miss lately) with recruitment and money does seem to just vanish. I'd prefer we kept even average players as I have zero faith in Reed and / or Wilson Horse ****e alert, the record transfer fee is 9m for Eduard..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwsaint Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 My Celtic supporting work colleague says that he could be the best player that we have signed from them yet. Really talented. For £7 million this could be excellent business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 Sounds like it might be a 'smart' signing, just the worries over why he's not been a regular for them over the last season or so, is this injuries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 See Armstrong as the SD replacement / compliment. Worth a gamble and less of a gamble than some of our recent additions, could prove to be a very astute piece of business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 Reading the Celtic forum and chatting to Celtic fans this weekend they view outgoing transfers a lot different than us. Reason being is they have faith in the recruitment team to sign a better player + they can be confident that any funds received will get reinvested back into the team. That's my main gripe with our outflows....we are so hit n miss (far more miss lately) with recruitment and money does seem to just vanish. I'd prefer we kept even average players as I have zero faith in Reed and / or Wilson Wow they replaced Victor and VVD with better players fair play... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 Reading the Celtic forum and chatting to Celtic fans this weekend they view outgoing transfers a lot different than us. Reason being is they have faith in the recruitment team to sign a better player + they can be confident that any funds received will get reinvested back into the team. That's my main gripe with our outflows....we are so hit n miss (far more miss lately) with recruitment and money does seem to just vanish. I'd prefer we kept even average players as I have zero faith in Reed and / or Wilson Who did they sign that was better than Wanyama & van Dijk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 Thing I liked about reading about him is that he has wheels, apparently if he beats you your not catching him again. Exactly what our attacking midfield needs (SD, JWP etc) on top of goalscoring and assists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 Wow they replaced Victor and VVD with better players fair play... Results improved without both so they are doing something right. They've lost 8 league games in the 3 season since VVD left. 8 loses in 114 games We sell we get worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukee Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 Results improved without both so they are doing something right. They've lost 8 league games in the 3 season since VVD left. 8 loses in 114 games We sell we get worse. So this implies that you don't care about the transfers, just the results, meaning that we should wait until after the transfer window to discuss how it went? Even so, Celtic are a massive team playing in a tiny league, 8 losses in that many games is not unexpected considering they're around 5 times better than any other team that league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 Results improved without both so they are doing something right. They've lost 8 league games in the 3 season since VVD left. 8 loses in 114 games We sell we get worse. Its an easy league with no competition, even you with your weird ideas could manage them and win everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 Results improved without both so they are doing something right. They've lost 8 league games in the 3 season since VVD left. 8 loses in 114 games We sell we get worse. They do seem to have a knack of finding diamonds in the rough on a consistent basis (and not just in 2014). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 Results improved without both so they are doing something right. They've lost 8 league games in the 3 season since VVD left. 8 loses in 114 games We sell we get worse. Given that Celtic spend much of their money and the last 5 seasons taking every other clubs best players, they shouldn't have lost as many as 8. With Rangers having messed up their fanances, they lost the only competition they had. Don't confuse them being good with a lack of competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 Good to bring in a British player. Seems a smart move for a low fee. Looks like a profile of player that we don't have. Still require a lot more activity both in and out though. Certainly been a disappointing window so far, had expected more change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 £7m is f all in the current climate, looks like he can score goals from outside the box...good luck to him. Sounds like it could be a really good piece of business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tttdcs Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 £7m is f all in the current climate, looks like he can score goals from outside the box...good luck to him. Sounds like it could be a really good piece of business. Larger sell on clause perhaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 Player has agreed to move. Sent from my SM-A320FL using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 Results improved without both so they are doing something right. They've lost 8 league games in the 3 season since VVD left. 8 loses in 114 games We sell we get worse. It's Scottish Football. As an aside - my in-laws are Scottish, from Aberdeen, they support Man Utd...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 I don't understand why people can't look at this in a positive manner. He's cost £7m, which in today's market is not bad business at all. Just because Maddison had a great season at Norwich and went to Leicester for over £20m it doesn't guarantee anything. He could have a nightmare season, he could set the Premier league on fire, although I doubt the latter with Puel running things. In fact, they've taken a much bigger gamble than we have. As other have said, we need a Davis replacement and I would assume that's what Armstrong is. If Tadic goes for £15m then I wouldn't be overly concerned. We'll make a small profit and let's be honest, he hasn't exactly been consistent for us. It looks to me that we're setting up to play a different way so I have no issue with changes being made to accommodate that. Sell Tadic and Boufal and replace with one decent player and I'd be more than happy with that. I've always felt that with Tadic, Boufal and Redmond we had too many similar, inconsistent players. Losing 2 of those 3 would be no bad thing at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 Player has agreed to move. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44584238 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 Sounds like it might be a 'smart' signing, just the worries over why he's not been a regular for them over the last season or so, is this injuries? according to the BBC article yes Armstrong scored 17 goals in Rodgers' first season, leading to his first Scotland cap against Slovenia in 2017. Injury hampered his impact last season, though he played four more games for Scotland to take his tally to six caps. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44584238 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 Sounds like it might be a 'smart' signing, just the worries over why he's not been a regular for them over the last season or so, is this injuries? He played 27 out of 38 SPL games, 2 injury periods (out with knee injury for 6 SPL games in Jan/Feb), hardly "not been a regular" despite the contract dispute at the beginning of the season (he didn't sign new contract until August). Played 41 times in all competitions, including 10 Champions League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Benali Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 Pretty sure most of us could score if we were in that team in the SPL. Their league is ranked 26th in Europe. Cyprus and Azerbaijan have better leagues..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 Pretty sure most of us could score if we were in that team in the SPL. Their league is ranked 26th in Europe. Cyprus and Azerbaijan have better leagues..... Doesn't make him a bad player though!? VVD, Wanyama, Forster, Davis..... Petrov, Viduka, Larsson, Arteta, Adam, etc all turned out OK in our big league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 4 year deal, according to the man that broke the news. @bbckennymac: Stuart Armstrong has agreed a four year deal with @SouthamptonFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 Nice, good signing shrewd bit of business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Benali Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 Doesn't make him a bad player though!? VVD, Wanyama, Forster, Davis..... Petrov, Viduka, Larsson, Arteta, Adam, etc all turned out OK in our big league. Of course not. The point is scoring goals in that league means **** all. Liam Boyce scored 23 goals in something like 30 league games the season before last. He now plays in league one. And that was with Ross County. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 Thing I liked about reading about him is that he has wheels, apparently if he beats you your not catching him again. Exactly what our attacking midfield needs (SD, JWP etc) on top of goalscoring and assists Also important if he is to make the step up to the Premier League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 Talking to my Celtic mate he reckons he is better than VVD and Wanyama combined. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 Talking to my Celtic mate he reckons he is better than VVD and Wanyama combined. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk And probably better in goal than Forster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 And probably better in goal than Forster? A split matchstick is better in goal than Forster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Fred Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 Talking to my Celtic mate he reckons he is better than VVD and Wanyama combined. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I am not surprised the off spring of those two would be a sulky, self entitled Frankenstein type monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 Apparently 4 year deal at £40k a week, ie double his weekly wedge at Celtic Hope he turns out a good 'un (the Celtic fans views are divided) and he keeps injury free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 Apparently 4 year deal at £40k a week, ie double his weekly wedge at Celtic Hope he turns out a good 'un (the Celtic fans views are divided) and he keeps injury free LOL he is earning less than Targett... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 Apparently 4 year deal at £40k a week, ie double his weekly wedge at Celtic I doubt it is that small a wage. Pretty tiny in PL terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 I doubt it is that small a wage. Pretty tiny in PL terms. which works for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 which works for us. The wage bill in the last accounts highlights we must be paying a lot of players a lot more than £40k p/w. Some of our youth academy products have been reportedly been on more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 25 June, 2018 Share Posted 25 June, 2018 The wage bill in the last accounts highlights we must be paying a lot of players a lot more than £40k p/w. Some of our youth academy products have been reportedly been on more than that. that is probably why we dont sign top drawer players for a mid table club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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