Mole Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Do not fooled into believing that the older fans want him ' date=' they have most reasons to hate him there support and dedication over the years is being wasted in their life times.[/quote'] I visited an uncle of mine in Baddesley who's in his 80's and he brought the subject up about lowe. His words were "Lowe is bad news for the club". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 The lad was violently pushed down by this big steward, and managed to get up and smashed him in the face. So no, it wasnt for no apparent reason, just stewards being c*ntsThats not how i saw it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Donny fans were not impressed....... Southampton fans... Rigoglioso Sun 18-Jan-2009 14:26:30 authenticated user: RIGOGLIOSO (id=5394) [ views 159 ] [ Message 339033, a follow-up to 338979 ] [ return to index ] ...were at it again at the end of the game as well, this time outside the players entrance demonstrating about Rupert Lowe and calling for him to resign, and sack Jan Poorvielt. It did get a bit hairy in their protests, a few barriers were kicked and they had yet another run in with the stewards who were trying to protect the team coach. The manner of their protests was the sort of stuff largely though that would give a young kid nightmares and scare them senseless, yet give an older person more of something to watch without being overly feared for their safety. However, Southampton's fans demeanour, poor attitudes and ridiculous behaviour was reminiscent of another club round this way on, who think they should still be in the Premiership... when infact they are only a small club now If Southampton take this same attitude they posess now of being too big for everyone, to League One, they'll be absolutely despised! I can live with being despised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Donny fans were not impressed....... Southampton fans... Rigoglioso Sun 18-Jan-2009 14:26:30 authenticated user: RIGOGLIOSO (id=5394) [ views 159 ] [ Message 339033, a follow-up to 338979 ] [ return to index ] ...were at it again at the end of the game as well, this time outside the players entrance demonstrating about Rupert Lowe and calling for him to resign, and sack Jan Poorvielt. It did get a bit hairy in their protests, a few barriers were kicked and they had yet another run in with the stewards who were trying to protect the team coach. The manner of their protests was the sort of stuff largely though that would give a young kid nightmares and scare them senseless, yet give an older person more of something to watch without being overly feared for their safety. However, Southampton's fans demeanour, poor attitudes and ridiculous behaviour was reminiscent of another club round this way on, who think they should still be in the Premiership... when infact they are only a small club now If Southampton take this same attitude they posess now of being too big for everyone, to League One, they'll be absolutely despised! I can live with being despised. We didn't act like that anyway. We never once said anything against Doncaster, it was purely against Lowe. You think supporters of another club would be sympathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 We didn't act like that anyway. We never once said anything against Doncaster, it was purely against Lowe. You think supporters of another club would be sympathetic. TBF, it's just one poster expressing his opinion. Very often fans of other teams are sympathetic to the supporters of other clubs who have been landed with terrible owners/chairman/boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocco boxo Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 did the Saints fans fighting each other both lose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 TBF, it's just one poster expressing his opinion. Very often fans of other teams are sympathetic to the supporters of other clubs who have been landed with terrible owners/chairman/boards. Fair point. Often I find that "smaller" clubs have a perception of "bigger" clubs fans before they have even met them. We were initially very arrogant but now I would say it is actually the opposite. We go into most games expecting to lose and I wouldn't accuse us of arrogance at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Fair point. Often I find that "smaller" clubs have a perception of "bigger" clubs fans before they have even met them. We were initially very arrogant but now I would say it is actually the opposite. We go into most games expecting to lose and I wouldn't accuse us of arrogance at all. being in denial is also a big club trait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swannymere Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Other fans still think we're arrogant, they think we think that we have a god given right to be in the Premiership and that we still think we're a big club - some would say they're right:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 i dont think anyone thinks we should be in the prem...but being where we have come from...I think fans think we have a god given right to be run as a proper professional outfit... I bet if doncaster had come from where we have they would be the same.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 got the biggest cheer of the day I think! For getting in the opposition half? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint.tom.clancy Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Thats not how i saw it How did you see it then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 i dont think anyone thinks we should be in the prem...but being where we have come from...I think fans think we have a god given right to be run as a proper professional outfit... I bet if doncaster had come from where we have they would be the same.. Absolutely. Football is a meritocracy and we have no divine right to be in the top flight, it has to be earnt. All we are asking for is to run competently, managed to the best of our potential and to be treated with respect. Even if we never got promoted for quite a few years, as long as the above were being delivered, then I would be only too happy to live with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markdeyzel@hotmail.com Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 You pussy! No, he's not a 'pussy'. I also witnessed what happened. The guy that threw the punch was in front of me at the reading game. He started singing we want rupert out when we were 0 0 with reading and 1 up against reading. I told him to be quiet that day and he and his friends were so vile back. At least when things are okay in an individual game support the team. He said that why should he support this rubbish. So why was he there??? TO CAUSE TROUBLE!!!! The same guy and his croonies were the row behind me but further over. I heard them start singing anti-lowe chants on 20 mins when it was still 0 0 and we were playing well. Loads of people were telling him to shut up. He was and is an idiot. Left on 40 mins, didnt come back til 55. true fan i think not. The guy that got punched was totally in the right. I also dont like lowe, but wont protest during the game, especially if we are 0 0 or 1 0 down and in with a chance. We all support the same team, this is ridiculous. and as for someone saying about picking on someone smaller than him, thats a load of rubbish. This guy might have been small, but the filth that came out of him! He was an idiot. When the trouble kicked off in itchen they shouted 'look who it is' then said his name. He was there mate. Well done mate for standing up to the idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Hopefully nickh and NickG will have a look at some point.. what is your point? baiting? I was at both games if that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 I worry that the same supporters who were involved with in-fighting and scrapping with stewards are all going to be there again for the next match/es. I think it will be extremely tense between these factions, and a real tinder box. I am seriously considering NOT GOING for reasons of personal safety. How ironic, that I (and I expect others) may be moved to boycott because of the very same people that I have this weird affinity with, of being a Saints fan. My God, this is madness, you really could not have made it up. The FA will be aware of the incidents yesterday. If the club 'allow' this to happen again, then no one should be surprised if they do not consider making us play behind closed doors. All IMHO of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jason Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 That as well.why do you think I blame the fans, I believe the fans singing anti Lowe songs is detrimental to the performance.That is my opinion, and it divided the fans instead of focussing on the team. so what about the other ****ing 13 home games? there has been no anti lowe/jan songs, we've had crowds of 26, 23, 32k and NO WINS, wake up you ****. its not the fans, its the management!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COMEONYOUREDS Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 That as well.why do you think I blame the fans, I believe the fans singing anti Lowe songs is detrimental to the performance.That is my opinion, and it divided the fans instead of focussing on the team. to be honest nick it looked like we played better after the songs started Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 I worry that the same supporters who were involved with in-fighting and scrapping with stewards are all going to be there again for the next match/es. I think it will be extremely tense between these factions, and a real tinder box. I am seriously considering NOT GOING for reasons of personal safety. How ironic, that I (and I expect others) may be moved to boycott because of the very same people that I have this weird affinity with, of being a Saints fan. My God, this is madness, you really could not have made it up. The FA will be aware of the incidents yesterday. If the club 'allow' this to happen again, then no one should be surprised if they do not consider making us play behind closed doors. All IMHO of course. I am not going because I've had enough. I put my heart and soul into this club over the years. I don't like big games, I like good games and people who play with heart and soul. I didn't run on the pitch when we stayed up last year. I stood in the stands and reflected on the luck we'd had and hoped to goodness we would use the opportunity to build for the future. Money is so tight now that I refuse to support a regime that is so clearly inept and arrogant it has lost ALL SIGHT of what it means to be a football club, the role of that club and its position both within the community and towards the supporters who have stood by the club throughout its history. You can only bang your head against a wall for so long before you realise all that's happening is that your head is hurting. I had to leave early on Saturday for the sake of my health and because I was so angered by the attitude of the coaching set-up who showed themselves to be incompetent. Will I rush back if we start winning? Yes, because to start winning we will have to change our board and/or management. If we start winning by chance under the current shambles then...pah..no chance... who am I trying to kid? Until then, I genuinely wish the young lads luck, they deserve better. I urged people to go all season. Now, the club could fold tomorrow and I would be sad but move on with my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965onwards Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 What happened yesterday was a collective,subconcious,mass realisation that a tipping point had been reached. I felt this coming last week,which was reflected in my posts. There is no doubt in my mind that Lowe,Wilde and his cronies are now in physical danger. Those attending SMS until now have been incredibly supportive and patient,but we all know that there is an element that is prepared to go to extreme measures when they deem it necessary or appropriate,or they are just plain ****ed off enough. The ball-game has now changed irrevocably,and will not change until Lowe/Wilde etc are gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 I worry that the same supporters who were involved with in-fighting and scrapping with stewards are all going to be there again for the next match/es. I think it will be extremely tense between these factions, and a real tinder box. I am seriously considering NOT GOING for reasons of personal safety. How ironic, that I (and I expect others) may be moved to boycott because of the very same people that I have this weird affinity with, of being a Saints fan. My God, this is madness, you really could not have made it up. The FA will be aware of the incidents yesterday. If the club 'allow' this to happen again, then no one should be surprised if they do not consider making us play behind closed doors. All IMHO of course. pussy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 I'm firmly of the opinion that Lowe is going to get a smack in the mouth, at SMS, shortly. The rubicon has been crossed and Lowe is now fair game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 No, he's not a 'pussy'. I also witnessed what happened. The guy that threw the punch was in front of me at the reading game. He started singing we want rupert out when we were 0 0 with reading and 1 up against reading. I told him to be quiet that day and he and his friends were so vile back. At least when things are okay in an individual game support the team. He said that why should he support this rubbish. So why was he there??? TO CAUSE TROUBLE!!!! The same guy and his croonies were the row behind me but further over. I heard them start singing anti-lowe chants on 20 mins when it was still 0 0 and we were playing well. Loads of people were telling him to shut up. He was and is an idiot. Left on 40 mins, didnt come back til 55. true fan i think not. The guy that got punched was totally in the right. I also dont like lowe, but wont protest during the game, especially if we are 0 0 or 1 0 down and in with a chance. We all support the same team, this is ridiculous. and as for someone saying about picking on someone smaller than him, thats a load of rubbish. This guy might have been small, but the filth that came out of him! He was an idiot. When the trouble kicked off in itchen they shouted 'look who it is' then said his name. He was there mate. Well done mate for standing up to the idiots.good post,i think you summed some of those idiots up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 How did you see it then?It was all a mellee at the front with the stewards trying to stop fans getting onto the pitch (we dont need points deductions for that at the moment]then if it was the large lad he lashed out and punched a steward.He was then pulled out and other fans punched and lashed out at other stewards.The blind hatred was very evident and some lost their rags, perhaps on both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jason Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 It was all a mellee at the front with the stewards trying to stop fans getting onto the pitch (we dont need points deductions for that at the moment]then if it was the large lad he lashed out and punched a steward.He was then pulled out and other fans punched and lashed out at other stewards.The blind hatred was very evident and some lost their rags, perhaps on both sides. welcome to Lowes SFC, told you months ago, he's devisive and killing our club!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 welcome to Lowes SFC, told you months ago, he's devisive and killing our club!! You have a PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 I worry that the same supporters who were involved with in-fighting and scrapping with stewards are all going to be there again for the next match/es. I think it will be extremely tense between these factions, and a real tinder box. I am seriously considering NOT GOING for reasons of personal safety. How ironic, that I (and I expect others) may be moved to boycott because of the very same people that I have this weird affinity with, of being a Saints fan. My God, this is madness, you really could not have made it up. The FA will be aware of the incidents yesterday. If the club 'allow' this to happen again, then no one should be surprised if they do not consider making us play behind closed doors. All IMHO of course. Might the boardroom then take notice due to the lost revenue (I'm aware that ST holders have already paid) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulstersaint Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 I'm firmly of the opinion that Lowe is going to get a smack in the mouth, at SMS, shortly. The rubicon has been crossed and Lowe is now fair game. Rubbish like this will only give credibility to Lowe's reference to 'a lunatic fringe'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 I'm firmly of the opinion that Lowe is going to get a smack in the mouth, at SMS, shortly. The rubicon has been crossed and Lowe is now fair game. Rubbish like this will only give credibility to Lowe's reference to 'a lunatic fringe'. It'd make good youtube viewing though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 As you say, just there to cause trouble. I don't like the board singing during games at all, but to do it when the game it level or we're winning is just pathetic. Even then, abusing a fan, intimidating them or using violence against them because they don't like what you're doing it far worse than anything Lowe has done IMO. **** chairman, annoying tit, whatever, that doesn't change the fact we seem to have some utter scum at our games. Why not? Rupert's voice is magnificent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Any news on fines or points deductions for the trouble? Nothing at all will happen. Leeds got off scot free when their fans invaded the pitch against Ipswich a couple of years back and held the game up for 30 mins. Or if you really have to, sing your songs during the game, although I've never seen a team win, or even draw when the fans start singing about the board. I don't think we'll ever win at SMS once we've gone behind with the atmosphere as it was, With all due respect we have only won once in 13 games when the atmosphere was positive, so I think the idea that performance is closely correlated to protest songs is somewhat wide of the mark. There are a myriad of more valid reasons for our poor performances and I think you're deluding yourself if you think we will win games if we get behind the lads (or conversely that we will lose them because of some Sack The Board chants). Time to get in the real world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred kemp Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 well put adrian, i looked across at the donny fans, they were so quiet, in shock i think at what was going on. there was a lad in northam, with a red top on, kicking the hoarding, taunting the stewards, this being a fan of saints, i think not. no police evident, lowe saving money on that, but not present himself. my opinion is that the thing between lowe and crouch is personal and they should both go, so we can start afresh, with no skeletons. first half we should have scored 2 or 3, but were looking ok, second half they scored early and we were shot, so sad to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 With all due respect we have only won once in 13 games when the atmosphere was positive, so I think the idea that performance is closely correlated to protest songs is somewhat wide of the mark. There are a myriad of more valid reasons for our poor performances and I think you're deluding yourself if you think we will win games if we get behind the lads (or conversely that we will lose them because of some Sack The Board chants). Time to get in the real world. Getting behind the team doesn't win matches, the question is do you think a positive result is more likely with chants of support or chants about the board? Even if positive support only has a 0.1% positive impact it's more than you had before. Look at it a different way. If you went into work and each day all you heard was negativity would it give you faith in what you were doing? Vs. coming into work each day and getting positive feedback? There's absolutely nothing wrong with constructive criticism, but I happen to believe that a bad attitude on the terraces when there is still something to play for is destructive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jason Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 You have a PM Do not reply to this w4nkers pm's, he posts them on the main site for everyone to read! I have no problem with people knowing my feeling's towards Lowe & Co its just a PM is just that, a Private Message, pr!ck!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jason Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Getting behind the team doesn't win matches, the question is do you think a positive result is more likely with chants of support or chants about the board? Even if positive support only has a 0.1% positive impact it's more than you had before. Look at it a different way. If you went into work and each day all you heard was negativity would it give you faith in what you were doing? Vs. coming into work each day and getting positive feedback? There's absolutely nothing wrong with constructive criticism, but I happen to believe that a bad attitude on the terraces when there is still something to play for is destructive. If I went to work for 14 weeks and only did my job once i'd expect the sack!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Do not reply to this w4nkers pm's, he posts them on the main site for everyone to read! I have no problem with people knowing my feeling's towards Lowe & Co its just a PM is just that, a Private Message, pr!ck!!! Lol. Your posts say more than a reply from me ever could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Getting behind the team doesn't win matches, the question is do you think a positive result is more likely with chants of support or chants about the board? Even if positive support only has a 0.1% positive impact it's more than you had before. But if you're 20% away from winning a home match it's a pointless exercise. I'm sure singing pro Saints songs makes us feel good, but I also think having a good moan is cathartic at times as well. And conversely you could argue that if protesting has a 0.01% chance of bringing about change, then why not go for it. We desperately need a change and some short term gain may be a very small price to pay for it. Look at it a different way. If you went into work and each day all you heard was negativity would it give you faith in what you were doing? Vs. coming into work each day and getting positive feedback? There's absolutely nothing wrong with constructive criticism, but I happen to believe that a bad attitude on the terraces when there is still something to play for is destructive. Problem is that that atmosphere exists as a result of poor performances, pss poor management and leadership. The negative atmosphere is already in place and the backlash from the fans is a result of it. The poor performances came way before the outbursts yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jason Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 (edited) Lol. Your posts say more than a reply from me ever could. Nothing to do with a reply from you, you posted a pm! your a full on w4nker mooooosh, you sent me a pm, i replied in good faith and you posted it. You can dress your actions up in any way you like but your a w4nker, simple as that, pr!ck!! Edited 18 January, 2009 by St. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittdogg Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 What a difference it is from the first match after we got rid of Lowe last time. This video might jog your memories. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Norgab7bFfs what a brilliant atmosphere at that game. the passion the belief it was all there. now its all gone truth is i dont evan post on the football part of this forum no more. i dont no what to say anymore. but as many have mentioned once a saints fan always a saints fan. and you just can't walk away. we just get dragged deeper into depression. i wish i could just switch of the way i feel but i can't. id do anything to go back to that coventry game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintDonkey Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Yesterday was the first time I've ever left a Saints match early. I didn't leave because of any action on the pitch but because of the disgraceful actions of some idiots in the stands. I was in block 4 and left after some idiots started the fight with the stewards with around 20 minutes to go. We were only one nil down and still in it but to some it was more important to start a fight and look ridiculous in front of the Doncaster fans than to suport our team - who were still in it. This wasn't pro or anti Lowe in fact I honestly don't believe there is such a thing as pro-Lowe really, merely disagreement on whether to support the team or chant against the board during a match. No this was just some idiots looking for trouble and finding that the atomosphere was right to start it. I left the stadium just after a guy who was thrown out by the stewards. Did he look angry about being thrown out? Of course not -he had a huge grin on his face and was straight on his mobile bragging about it. It's not about the football any more, it's not even about Lowe really. For a minority of people coming to Saint Mary's it now seems that it's about causing trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 It's not about the football any more, it's not even about Lowe really. For a minority of people coming to Saint Mary's it now seems that it's about causing trouble. The minority is the key word in your posts. Less than 0.1% of the crowd to put it into context and of that 0.1% i'd say half of the trouble makers are the aggresive gobby louts calling fans "fecking morons" for singing anti lowe songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintDonkey Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 The minority is the key word in your posts. Less than 0.1% of the crowd to put it into context and of that 0.1% i'd say half of the trouble makers are the aggresive gobby louts calling fans "fecking morons" for singing anti lowe songs. The problem is that the '0.1%' come looking to create trouble, but then people around them get sucked in. The "aggressive gobby lout" I saw chucked out didn't give a damn about Saints or Lowe, he just wanted his bit of aggro. However his actions led to a pitched battle between the stewards and some fans who I dare say weren't looking for trouble, but after a few beers weren't averse to it. Violence between fans, and indeed between fans and stewards isn't about Lowe it's about violence. You want to protest against Lowe during the match? I'd rather you waited until the end of the match personally but no problem - sit there and sing your hearts out, the stewards can't do anything about it if you remain seated. You want to provoke a fight with the stewards or a fan that doesn't agree with you? **** off out of my club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Violence between fans, and indeed between fans and stewards isn't about Lowe it's about violence. The trouble was all about Lowe. Saints fans fighting Saints fans is unheard of at SFC - they get it at Pompey, but not at our club. Lowe is such a divisive figure the situation will get worse and worse until he's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Whilst I am completely against any sort of violence in this environment. Do you think having any support for Rupert Lowe is acceptable Warwick? How did your beloved McGoldrick perform yesterday? still think he is worthy of a place do you? The Lowe Luvvies are at fault for the demise of this club. I have no support for Lowe and Wilde, I also have no support for those sad individuals who threaten violence against fans who support the same club as we do, the fact is I witnessed the thugs who threatened our very old supporters of our club because these supporters wanted to do is watch the match and not get involved in the politics of the problem. If you think this is right then you are part of the problem. As for Mcgoldrick (not my beloved but looking to see what other striker we have that is better), I think I pointed out clearly to you he was the form striker at the time and Saganowski had had his first game. Whether he is worthy of a place that is open to debate but one thing that is clear we have no other option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Yesterday was the first time I've ever left a Saints match early. I didn't leave because of any action on the pitch but because of the disgraceful actions of some idiots in the stands. I was in block 4 and left after some idiots started the fight with the stewards with around 20 minutes to go. We were only one nil down and still in it but to some it was more important to start a fight and look ridiculous in front of the Doncaster fans than to suport our team - who were still in it. This wasn't pro or anti Lowe in fact I honestly don't believe there is such a thing as pro-Lowe really, merely disagreement on whether to support the team or chant against the board during a match. No this was just some idiots looking for trouble and finding that the atomosphere was right to start it. I left the stadium just after a guy who was thrown out by the stewards. Did he look angry about being thrown out? Of course not -he had a huge grin on his face and was straight on his mobile bragging about it. It's not about the football any more, it's not even about Lowe really. For a minority of people coming to Saint Mary's it now seems that it's about causing trouble. Can you honestly say it would have happened if Lowe had not been there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Do not reply to this w4nkers pm's, he posts them on the main site for everyone to read! I have no problem with people knowing my feeling's towards Lowe & Co its just a PM is just that, a Private Message, pr!ck!!! You are obviously upet over his PM, care to enlighten us on what he said for you to rank him a w4anker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 The trouble was all about Lowe. Saints fans fighting Saints fans is unheard of at SFC - they get it at Pompey, but not at our club. Lowe is such a divisive figure the situation will get worse and worse until he's gone. I certainly don't remember saints fans fighting saints fans from the previous anti Lowe rants, how will it get worse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jason Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 You are obviously upet over his PM, care to enlighten us on what he said for you to rank him a w4anker? Nothing to do with what he said, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, he sent me a pm asking what ideas i had for a protest against Lowe, I answered via the pm facility, he then chose to post my reply on the main site, which also resulted in the admin closing the thread. As i've said, i have no problem people voicing opinion pro or anti Lowe, what i do have a problem with is fans stitching others up, a pm is just that, a Private Message!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintDonkey Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Can you honestly say it would have happened if Lowe had not been there? Not at all. Lowe's presence has created an atomosphere which certain elements are using to create trouble. The trouble was all about Lowe. Saints fans fighting Saints fans is unheard of at SFC - they get it at Pompey' date=' but not at our club. Lowe is such a divisive figure the situation will get worse and worse until he's gone.[/quote'] Lowe has created the problem, but you're living in a dream land if you think it's all about him any more. People are coming to games to cause trouble - Lowe is merely the catalyst which enables them to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Lowe here or not, there is simply no excuse for it. Sad day when some believe that being crap at football and having numpties in the boardroom is some sort of justification for a fight - I thought we got rid of those moronic neanderthals ages ago, seems not....sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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