Nexstar Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 For those that weren't at the game this was the line of stewards in front of northam by about 90 minutes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 For those that weren't at the game this was the line of stewards in front of northam by about 90 minutes... At the full time whistle there was about three lines of 30 stewards in each line. If the Chapel had suddenly grown a pair then the stewards would have been fooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 £30K is what the Police bill will be at SMS now for every game until the end of the season - that is roughly the away gate receipts. Why? Because of Rupert Lowe's influence. Lowe is now costing us our away gate receipts JUST by being associated with the Club as the crowd has now lost its discipline. Now - Lowe supporters - please tell me that Lowe is not a drain on Saints resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Saw something kick off at the top of block 4 shortly into the second half. Then there was a confrontation about half way up northam I think relating to anti-lowe song etc but can't be sure. Someone threw a punch and then a mass brawl broke out, taking stewards a while to get it broken up. A line of stewards were then down by the advertising and i saw one of them shove a teenager over, who then got up and punched the steward in the face, leading to another breakout of fighting and him and friends being ejected. Final bit of 'action' came after the final whistle when 2 guy ran across the pitch before being taken out. Note: I saw no police in the ground whatsoever, clearly the club learnt nothing after barnsley last season.[/quote] I spoke to a steward after the game (on the way out of the ground) and he said that the lack of police presence is down to the stadium security officer - a guy called Mark Long. Look like another inept idiot on the team. He is right that the Donny Rovers fans posed little threat and can be classified as low risk but How far his head up his own arse if he doesn't see the tension that is building in the stadium? Obviously you would hope that Plod could have suggested even a minor presence specials/cso's? We had a couple of guys in our stand trying to kick it off - they looked a bit like the chuckle brothers - they were just trying to start something with anyone. At one point arguing with an old lady. It got to much for one family who were obviously distressed. I shout and swear but trying to start trouble with our own fans regardless of opinion (and football is just that- opinion) is bang out of order. Despite many fans calling for the assistance of stewards only one guy was brave enough to confront the chuckle brothers - to which he was threatened. I would suggest a police presence until the end of the season or until the situation is sorted out. How the hell do we expect familys and the like to come to football if we scare the kids to tears with this stupid behaviour. Protests should be organised and at proper times. Not just when people think it should happen. I will email mark long for his woefully inept excuses as to how in his position he can **** up the security of the stadium. but yet again I find myself sad and upset by the events of the game. THings can (AND MUST) only get better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 I know Mark Long and he usually gets things right, but if he made the decision for no police presence then it's a massive error of judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HILL HEAD SAINT Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 What a sad day.There werer fans waiting for the opportunity to start the anti Lowe songs and were at it when we were a goal down. Im not against the protests outside the ground after teh game, but during the game in a 6 pointer is suicide. As for punching stewards and your own fans its so depressing. I saw some longstanding fans loooking stunned and ! with tears running down her face, and then a young lad with his dad looking fearful. What a sad state our club and fans have got to. as you well know i forcast this at the beging of the season and as i have said all along there is only one door to put the blame your hero Rupert Lowe's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 For those that weren't at the game this was the line of stewards in front of northam by about 90 minutes... I noticed the yoof at the front kicking the advertising hoardings - **** me they looked scary. Also did you see the bimbo berating her boyfrind for not sticking up for her? it was well funny? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 as you well know i forcast this at the beging of the season and as i have said all along there is only one door to put the blame your hero Rupert Lowe's I predicted this along time ago too. It was all so bloody obvious. I am just surprised that it has taken so long. Corner's been turned now. Family Club will return again one day... it only takes the removal of the plc boardroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint boggy Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Was in the Itchen North and just want to disabuse anyone of the idea that it was fans fighting fans. There was fighting in the second half but this was simply the continuation of a running battle with the stewards who've been trying to enforce the no standing policy. They've been heavy-handed and inflexible all season and fans reacted angrily when a couple of stewards tried to drag a fan for not sitting down. Its wrong to say that this was fans fighting fans rather it was fans fighting for fellow fans. what, you mean INFLEXIBLE as in trying to enforce ground regulations?????...... go away little boy............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 You are mental. I will sing what i want. If the players get affected by 'We want Rupert Out' chants, then they should **** off and play for a nice friendly club where they never have any problems. They are professional players, and a few chants shouldn't affect anything. Sat in the Kingsland for the very first time I was actually glad I wasn't in the Northam... Terrible, terrible scenes... The point is that Rupert is now reaping what he's sown... For the last few years we've been customers as opposed to fans. As fans you have got some minor moral duty to get behind the boys and be the twelve/thirteenth/fourteenth or whatever man... As a customer you've paid your money for a product and if that product is sheete then you have every right to voice your opinion. Sorry Nick but Lowe has no one to blame but himself for this shambolic mess. He had a product that worked with Pearson but he just HAD to meddle with it and have things his way... He's got things his way and it's a total mess. There's no turning back now and he and Wilde just HAVE to resign, allow Crouch to oversee the club and then appoint a new chairman. They don't have to have money, Lowe didn't when he came here, they just have to do better than the current shower... Chuckle Brothers it is then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 I know Mark Long and he usually gets things right, but if he made the decision for no police presence then it's a massive error of judgement. Well it would need clarifying - but the conversation I had said it was down to him. Will phone the club to find out for sure. Thing is saying he 'usually gets it right ' is not to great for the man charged with looking after the safety of potentially 32 000 people! I'm affraid he's on my list of people that need replacing 1 RL (Just to devisive - never will have unity until he goes) 2 MW ( responsible for the new mess by chopping and changing his mind - must be French or something!) 3 David Luker (Free wheeling - no drive no vision) 4 JP (sorry nice bloke and all but... ) .... and now 5 Mark Long ( head up arse - not on the ball!) ...should make sense now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Sat in the Kingsland for the very first time I was actually glad I wasn't in the Northam... Terrible, terrible scenes... The point is that Rupert is now reaping what he's sown... For the last few years we've been customers as opposed to fans. As fans you have got some minor moral duty to get behind the boys and be the twelve/thirteenth/fourteenth or whatever man... As a customer you've paid your money for a product and if that product is sheete then you have every right to voice your opinion. Sorry Nick but Lowe has no one to blame but himself for this shambolic mess. He had a product that worked with Pearson but he just HAD to meddle with it and have things his way... He's got things his way and it's a total mess. There's no turning back now and he and Wilde just HAVE to resign, allow Crouch to oversee the club and then appoint a new chairman. They don't have to have money, Lowe didn't when he came here, they just have to do better than the current shower... Chuckle Brothers it is then... That is the ONLY way that the fans are not going to go completely ape**** against the board during every home game now IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 17 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Sat in the Kingsland for the very first time I was actually glad I wasn't in the Northam... Terrible, terrible scenes... The point is that Rupert is now reaping what he's sown... For the last few years we've been customers as opposed to fans. As fans you have got some minor moral duty to get behind the boys and be the twelve/thirteenth/fourteenth or whatever man... As a customer you've paid your money for a product and if that product is sheete then you have every right to voice your opinion. Sorry Nick but Lowe has no one to blame but himself for this shambolic mess. He had a product that worked with Pearson but he just HAD to meddle with it and have things his way... He's got things his way and it's a total mess. There's no turning back now and he and Wilde just HAVE to resign, allow Crouch to oversee the club and then appoint a new chairman. They don't have to have money, Lowe didn't when he came here, they just have to do better than the current shower... Chuckle Brothers it is then... Good sense as usual Daren. BTW, what positons do the Chuckle Brothers play? Can either of them score goals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chi saint Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 I sit in the Itchen. Seems that a 'gentleman' and friend stood up to protest about Lowe, the team or both. After a while an older lady behind asked for him to sit down. He the appeared to turn round and verbally slaughter the lady who was with an older gent and younger girl (daughter?) and then started rowing with other supporters and a steward You can support your team but F'ing and blinding at a female is the sign of a the moral decline of this once great club and country. The bloke was brandishing a season ticket. I am ashamed to be associated with such a moron!! I was some rows behind with my teenage son, saw exactly what you did, a tw*t named Steve and his boyfriend somewhere around row AA and seats 260 - 264. First they start on the granny, then on the middle aged guy with his family, finally walk up the steps to confront another middle aged bloke with his wife and offered him out. Noticable how selective they were on NOT picking out those that would have given em something back. Talk about pathetic, anyway the stewards have thier seats and one of the females stewards, who was useless, knew them personally so fingers crossed they'll be out for a while. If it wasn't for the fact one was a 50+ with a perma tan and his ***** a fat bas**rd, I think others might have been tempted to have a go at them but hey who wants to get banned.....seconds thought might be the preferential option at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 I believe i am right in saying we are now employing Stewards from Pompey FC,this was mentioned post the last home game,i wonder if they are being as "professional" as they are supposed to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Good sense as usual Daren. BTW, what positons do the Chuckle Brothers play? Can either of them score goals? If its the same two that were in the ~Itchen ... one looked like a centre half and the other...... well maybe a ball boy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 where was sundance today He is on his hols with Lowe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr saint Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 For those that weren't at the game this was the line of stewards in front of northam by about 90 minutes... What a difference it is from the first match after we got rid of Lowe last time. This video might jog your memories. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Norgab7bFfs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Good sense as usual Daren. BTW, what positons do the Chuckle Brothers play? Can either of them score goals? Useless up front. You pass the ball to them you get it straight back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chi saint Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 £30K is what the Police bill will be at SMS now for every game until the end of the season - that is roughly the away gate receipts. Why? Because of Rupert Lowe's influence. Lowe is now costing us our away gate receipts JUST by being associated with the Club as the crowd has now lost its discipline. Now - Lowe supporters - please tell me that Lowe is not a drain on Saints resources. Now come on Robbie, whilst I can concur with the view that RL is a major problem for the club, lets be very clear those that cause trouble have to accept responsbility for thier actions. Of the thousands present it was a minority that decided to kick off, hopefully they fought amongst themselves but it certainly won't encourage unity either in the dressing room nor amongst the fans. No, the fact is those that start something would do at a tiddly winks match if they thought they had the backing and numbers, football per se isn't the issue for them, it's more image and peer pressure. Oh and the fact they are tw*ts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Now come on Robbie, whilst I can concur with the view that RL is a major problem for the club, lets be very clear those that cause trouble have to accept responsbility for thier actions. Of the thousands present it was a minority that decided to kick off, hopefully they fought amongst themselves but it certainly won't encourage unity either in the dressing room nor amongst the fans. No, the fact is those that start something would do at a tiddly winks match if they thought they had the backing and numbers, football per se isn't the issue for them, it's more image and peer pressure. Oh and the fact they are tw*ts! Possibly. The point I am making is now that the crowd is unlikely to behave, we will have a larger policing bill JUST BECAUSE OF ARGUMENTS OVER LOWE! Mad innit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 I was some rows behind with my teenage son, saw exactly what you did, a tw*t named Steve and his boyfriend somewhere around row AA and seats 260 - 264. First they start on the granny, then on the middle aged guy with his family, finally walk up the steps to confront another middle aged bloke with his wife and offered him out. Noticable how selective they were on NOT picking out those that would have given em something back. Talk about pathetic, anyway the stewards have thier seats and one of the females stewards, who was useless, knew them personally so fingers crossed they'll be out for a while. If it wasn't for the fact one was a 50+ with a perma tan and his ***** a fat bas**rd, I think others might have been tempted to have a go at them but hey who wants to get banned.....seconds thought might be the preferential option at the moment. Thats the chuckle brothers! I think they should be banned - set an example! The bloke next to me who is normally as quiet as a mouse got really incensed by them and said he would be happy to accomodate them - they seamed to clear off soon after .Looked like they only wanted to pick on old men and ladies and scare the kids! ... actually thought the one with tash looked like the guy out of frankie goes to hollywood! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 The trouble in the Northam near the end of the game was not good. But what do you expect when we have such soul-less c u n ts running our club. Lowe is a t0ssers. Our fans our loyal and yet the parasite which is Lowe continues to rape our club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 What a difference it is from the first match after we got rid of Lowe last time. This video might jog your memories. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Norgab7bFfs Hopefully nickh and NickG will have a look at some point.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint boggy Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Useless up front. You pass the ball to them you get it straight back... cheers for that........thats the first time ive giggled all evening!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 17 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Now come on Robbie, whilst I can concur with the view that RL is a major problem for the club, lets be very clear those that cause trouble have to accept responsbility for thier actions. Of the thousands present it was a minority that decided to kick off, hopefully they fought amongst themselves but it certainly won't encourage unity either in the dressing room nor amongst the fans. No, the fact is those that start something would do at a tiddly winks match if they thought they had the backing and numbers, football per se isn't the issue for them, it's more image and peer pressure. Oh and the fact they are tw*ts! To a degree you are right, but we have not had much in the way of similar trouble before today. Regardless of how many people were involved, the fact that the trouble happened at all is the thing. It all happened because todays game was the last straw for many people and different people express their frustration in different ways, and not always the right way. I have been supporting the club for over 50 years and a season ticket holder for 35 and even I felt frustrated and wanted to hit out (metaphorically) at something because of what my club has become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 To a degree you are right, but we have not had much in the way of similar trouble before today. Regardless of how many people were involved, the fact that the trouble happened at all is the thing. It all happened because todays game was the last straw for many people and different people express their frustration in different ways, and not always the right way. I have been supporting the club for over 50 years and a season ticket holder for 35 and even I felt frustrated and wanted to hit out (metaphorically) at something because of what my club has become. Great post. Thats exactly how i felt today. I was in the protest at the front of the stadium and at one point was going to jump over the barriers because i was so wound up,but i knew a lot of the stewards there and i doubt i could vault over the barrier anyway at my age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Great post. Thats exactly how i felt today. I was in the protest at the front of the stadium and at one point was going to jump over the barriers because i was so wound up,but i knew a lot of the stewards there and i doubt i could vault over the barrier anyway at my age. After attempting to vault the metal railings near the King Alfred and landing in a big heap on the road a few seasons back i know where you're coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 To be honest, we were well and truly ****ed well before the protest songs started. If anything, the vitriolic atmosphere in the ground actually helped spur the team on. (Anyone who blames the fans in any way today needs their head examined) I don't know what the fans can do, but at long last I saw passion today that suggests that fans have had enough and won't tolerate this ****e anymore... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMojoRisin Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 You need your head testing! Why, for simply wanting a manager who has managed at the highest level, for you to even say that he needs his head testing for wanting GH back proves to me that you know even less about whats needed than anyone. Get your ironing board out and stick to what you girls no best. Leave the football debates for people who know what they are on about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Hopefully nickh and NickG will have a look at some point.. TBF they were probably at that game so would of seen it first hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint boggy Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Why, for simply wanting a manager who has managed at the highest level, for you to even say that he needs his head testing for wanting GH back proves to me that you know even less about whats needed than anyone. Get your ironing board out and stick to what you girls no best. Leave the football debates for people who know what they are on about. ooooooooooooooooooooooooo, ark at her!!!!!!!!!:smt107 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 There appeared to be a number of incidents today of Saints fans fighting each other. What a state this club is in and what a divisive figure Mr Lowe is. This cannot go on.:mad: I believe there was a large fight in the Northam, 2 in the Kingsland and one in the Itchen. Mad innit!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SaintRobbie Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 To be honest, we were well and truly ****ed well before the protest songs started. If anything, the vitriolic atmosphere in the ground actually helped spur the team on. (Anyone who blames the fans in any way today needs their head examined) I don't know what the fans can do, but at long last I saw passion today that suggests that fans have had enough and won't tolerate this ****e anymore... Neil - when we started singing anti-Lowe songs last time we wanted him out it seemed to have a similar effect on the team then too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 I believe there was a large fight in the Northam Not a large fight as in a mass brawl, but the bloke on the receiving end of the punches will have a sore head in the morning. I saw several puches land hard and true in his face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrey1saint Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 The problem today was down to lack of police inside the ground IMO. Don't think we will have a lack of police again this season after today's happenings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Not a large fight as in a mass brawl, but the bloke on the receiving end of the punches will have a sore head in the morning. I saw several puches land hard and true in his face. Replace bloke with Saints Fan/human being, your wording is inappropriate imo, are you Danny Dyer ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint boggy Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 The problem today was down to lack of police inside the ground IMO. Don't think we will have a lack of police again this season after today's happenings. no......the problem today was that Saints fans (some,fuelled by alcohol no doubt) have had enough of being treated like c**ts by Lowe and his cronies and things got a bit out-of-hand......how the f8ck can you blame the police for people kickin off at each other!!!!!........:smt102 if they'd have gone in to sort the 'fighters' out, then you'd all be on here screaming about how the 'pigs bundled in mob-handed'.....damned if they do,damned if they don't.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Not a large fight as in a mass brawl, but the bloke on the receiving end of the punches will have a sore head in the morning. I saw several puches land hard and true in his face. Replace bloke with Saints Fan/human being, your wording is inappropriate imo, are you Danny Dyer ? WTF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 no......the problem today was that Saints fans (some,fuelled by alcohol no doubt) have had enough of being treated like c**ts by Lowe and his cronies and things got a bit out-of-hand......how the f8ck can you blame the police for people kickin off at each other!!!!!........:smt102 if they'd have gone in to sort the 'fighters' out, then you'd all be on here screaming about how the 'pigs bundled in mob-handed'.....damned if they do,damned if they don't.......... Do you think that maybe today, the stewards did more harm than good.....perhaps they're not trained well enough to deal with volatile situations :smt102 What do I know, t'was just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrey1saint Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 no......the problem today was that Saints fans (some,fuelled by alcohol no doubt) have had enough of being treated like c**ts by Lowe and his cronies and things got a bit out-of-hand......how the f8ck can you blame the police for people kickin off at each other!!!!!........:smt102 if they'd have gone in to sort the 'fighters' out, then you'd all be on here screaming about how the 'pigs bundled in mob-handed'.....damned if they do,damned if they don't.......... How am I blaming the police??I am saying that the stewards would have had to behave themselves,to some extent if there was a police presence. I am blaming the person(s) responsible for the lack of police today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrey1saint Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Do you think that maybe today, the stewards did more harm than good.....perhaps they're not trained well enough to deal with volatile situations :smt102 What do I know, t'was just a thought. Exactly! the police would have been able to direct the stewards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkhamsted Saint Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 I have been following Saints for 40 years I am a Season Ticket holder in the Northam and will do 15 away games a year. If we got relegated I would still renew my Season Ticket. I am not Pro Lowe or anti Lowe I just support my team. The anti Lowe chants/protest got going today when we needed to back the team but an element were determined to get them going and with things not going well on the pitch they suceeded. I am ashamed to see Saints fans fighting Saints fans. Even in the 70's we may have got stuck into other teams fans but never each other. The damage done to the teams already fragile confidence at SMS is huge and I certainly dont want to stand in the Northam in that atmosphere again. For the first time in my life I was ashamed to be a Saints fan today. If this sort of atmosphere continues it will after 40 years drive me away from going to games. A sad sad day today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrey1saint Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 I have been following Saints for 40 years I am a Season Ticket holder in the Northam and will do 15 away games a year. If we got relegated I would still renew my Season Ticket. I am not Pro Lowe or anti Lowe I just support my team. The anti Lowe chants/protest got going today when we needed to back the team but an element were determined to get them going and with things not going well on the pitch they suceeded. I am ashamed to see Saints fans fighting Saints fans. Even in the 70's we may have got stuck into other teams fans but never each other. The damage done to the teams already fragile confidence at SMS is huge and I certainly dont want to stand in the Northam in that atmosphere again. For the first time in my life I was ashamed to be a Saints fan today. If this sort of atmosphere continues it will after 40 years drive me away from going to games. A sad sad day today. Spot on mate. Sing the anti lowe songs,at the end of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Spot on mate. Sing the anti lowe songs,at the end of the game. This is what kicked off the fighting in the Northam with a few "fans" telling people what not to sing. Everyone pays their money and therefore can sign what they like. I'll continue to sing anti Lowe songs as much as possible and nothing anyone says will change that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint boggy Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Exactly! the police would have been able to direct the stewards the police don't direct the stewards you pillock!!!!....the police are there as a back-up for them......the stewards are directed by the control room.....if they say 'go in there n pull that fan/trouble maker out, then the stewards have to do it......in fact i know of one incident that happened today where one of the seniors refused to send his stewards in as it was so volatile, that senior is now facing disciplinary action for disobeying orders and refusing to endanger his staff ...........like i said damned if ya do, damned if ya don't S1S, i apologise for misunderstanding your first post, it appeared to me that you were blaming the police for not being present.......altho, having said that the games' 'police categories' are decided by not only the stadium safety officer , but senior police officers too.....so in fact , they MUST take some of the blame along with Mark Long... however, did anyone on here expect the level of violence that we saw today????? probably only thise who were hell bent on starting it,perhaps.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 I will not be going back to another game though as this situation has shown me that these idiots are worse than Lowe as even though he is just trying to protect his money with no care for the club these people are just there for violence not the football. I will miss it but today is the end. Which is precisely why I agree with Nickh. Support the team through the match, boo Lowe at the end. Anything else is, in my opinion, self defeating. To throw a punch at a fellow Saints fan is despicable. Ever since Hoddle-gate this club has been turning in on itself, blame, counter-blame, anger, vitriol and now violence. Like the Roman Empire, the mob will destroy SFC, and I'm not sure how you solve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 the police don't direct the stewards you pillock!!!!....the police are there as a back-up for them......the stewards are directed by the control room.....if they say 'go in there n pull that fan/trouble maker out, then the stewards have to do it......in fact i know of one incident that happened today where one of the seniors refused to send his stewards in as it was so volatile, that senior is now facing disciplinary action for disobeying orders and refusing to endanger his staff ...........like i said damned if ya do, damned if ya don't S1S, i apologise for misunderstanding your first post, it appeared to me that you were blaming the police for not being present.......altho, having said that the games' 'police categories' are decided by not only the stadium safety officer , but senior police officers too.....so in fact , they MUST take some of the blame along with Mark Long... however, did anyone on here expect the level of violence that we saw today????? probably only thise who were hell bent on starting it,perhaps.... Tbh yes, it's been bubbling under the surface for a while now.....only an idiot wouldn't have realized that it would 'kick off' today if we didn't get a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 the police don't direct the stewards you pillock!!!!....the police are there as a back-up for them......the stewards are directed by the control room.....if they say 'go in there n pull that fan/trouble maker out, then the stewards have to do it......in fact i know of one incident that happened today where one of the seniors refused to send his stewards in as it was so volatile, that senior is now facing disciplinary action for disobeying orders and refusing to endanger his staff ...........like i said damned if ya do, damned if ya don't S1S, i apologise for misunderstanding your first post, it appeared to me that you were blaming the police for not being present.......altho, having said that the games' 'police categories' are decided by not only the stadium safety officer , but senior police officers too.....so in fact , they MUST take some of the blame along with Mark Long... however, did anyone on here expect the level of violence that we saw today????? probably only thise who were hell bent on starting it,perhaps.... Yeah i expected it. I've been saying all week that todays game could easily be the same "breaking point" fixture as Ipswich was the other year. The writing was on the wall. The fact the club didn't pre-empt what was on the cards smakcks of gross incompetence. OK so the infighting was a relatively new phenomenon, but the club should have realised this game game had the potential (with a defeat) to lead to the huge anti Lowe feeling spilling over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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