Glasgow_Saint Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 I know someone who wants to fight me, would you fight them for me? depends - I generally only like to fight children, small women or elderly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Being taken out is right. The mush got a right kicking from the stewards , whose excessive force was totally unnecessary. Put them in the team I say. It's good to see at least someone associated with SFC has some fight in them. And an ability to kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 I would say that most of the protests started at 2-0 down, but even if they started at 1-0 down that still means that during that period we drew 1-1, whereas when we were behind the team we lost 1-0. I'm sat here tonight fccking pssied off and saddened by what has happened to my Club and am finding it rather pathetic that you're continuing with this "Let's blame the fans" routine. The same routine that you have peddled for ages, although I notice you've now come round to wat a ridiculous appointment Poortvliet was.Ump while emotions are high im not going to bite at your post. The fans were brilliant and behind the team, we went 1 down and there were a portion of fans who want Lowe out and started their songs, it went from bad to worse. i was on the northam and there were many who were as saddened, and it was the worst feeling i can recall myself.Fan fighting fan all over a bloody chairman who wasnt even there!!! He is only a figurehead in front of people who are too cowardly to show their faces but want the perks. Asd for the manager i have never backed him and have always said Id give him a chance to prove my doubts wrong but he is poor and should go. For the health of the club I would like RL gone (not for his cost cutting or trying to avert adminsitration), as the division is so bad. i still am bemused why none of the Knights in shining armour do not appear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 did everyone know this at the time nickh for once YOU are in the minority and you cant peddle the "did you go" excuse to paper over the cracks.. sad as it sounds...you have to wake up and say this is an utter shambles by allWell I was on the Northam and looked up and could see he wasnt there but Wilde was, could you not see from where you were sat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 But we performed worse when we supporting them than when the protest started so please feel free to explain that one:rolleyes: As for Lowe not being there, the Wilde, Richards and others who prop Lowe up were there and they need to get the message loud and clear.Do you really think we performed worse in the first half than the 2nd????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 The fans were brilliant and behind the team, we went 1 down Which sort of goes against your line that the players respond to the crowd, because they certainly never responded to the support they got for the majority of the game (and they have not responded to the support for the other 12 home games). It's fccking lame having a pop at the fans who finally vented their frustration and anger at a manager and CEO who have fcked us over royally, so IMHo I think you would do better to look at the real causes of the problem as opposed to reflecting on the obvious symptons that would manifest themselves at any club given what we have been subjected to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusaldo Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Was there a protest outside the ground afterwards against lowe? there was, not sure how many were there mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunatic Fridge Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 The events of today should provide little surprise. Lowe has managed to **** off probably 30-40,000 saints supporters, he has in fact made our lives pretty miserable to say the least. Anyone who is responsible for such should heed the misery he has caused and the inevitable feelings expressed at SMS today. FFS even the likes of Calderon at Real Madrid know when their time is up - otherwise they have to put up with all the nastiness that will come their way. Lowe has always got off lightly - due you think he would have survived in a Spanish or Italian club environment - not for 5 minutes if he valued his well-being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 I can not condone the actions of some of the fans today, but can quite understand it. SING YOUR HEARS OUT FOR THE LADS......... NOPE IT SHOULD BE, PLAY YOUR HEARTS OUT FOR THE FANS. Maybe some of our "lads" may take the hint. 50% OF OUR TEAM CLEARLY DO NOT GIVE A FLYING **** ABOUT OUR ONCE GREAT CLUB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Which sort of goes against your line that the players respond to the crowd, because they certainly never responded to the support they got for the majority of the game (and they have not responded to the support for the other 12 home games). It's fccking lame having a pop at the fans who finally vented their frustration and anger at a manager and CEO who have fcked us over royally, so IMHo I think you would do better to look at the real causes of the problem as opposed to reflecting on the obvious symptons that would manifest themselves at any club given what we have been subjected to.You made a point that we were better when the fans were singing anti Lowe, that was not the case. Why are you saying im blaming the fans? I am saying there is a time and place and IMO we are shooting ourselves in the foot by turning the mood of the crowd ugly. i may not put it well but the fans who start the anti lowe songs were not doing our club much good on the day.Why is that so hard to understand, do it in the carpark or where the directors leave the ground, not during a relegation 6 pointer.All IMHO of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 where was sundance today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Today has really hit home for me. Our problems go much deeper than the 11 players on the pitch. Seeing fans fighting amongst themselves just shows how bad a state we find our once great club in. Somehow, someway, we need a fresh start, a new lease of life and a major change of fortunes on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Um Bongo Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 (edited) You made a point that we were better when the fans were singing anti Lowe, that was not the case. Why are you saying im blaming the fans? I am saying there is a time and place and IMO we are shooting ourselves in the foot by turning the mood of the crowd ugly. i may not put it well but the fans who start the anti lowe songs were not doing our club much good on the day.Why is that so hard to understand, do it in the carpark or where the directors leave the ground, not during a relegation 6 pointer.All IMHO of course You are mental. I will sing what i want. If the players get affected by 'We want Rupert Out' chants, then they should **** off and play for a nice friendly club where they never have any problems. They are professional players, and a few chants shouldn't affect anything. Edited 17 January, 2009 by Um Bongo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 You are mental. I will sign what i want. If the players get affected by 'We want Rupert Out' chants, then they should **** off and play for a nice friendly club where they never have any problems. They are professional players, and a few chants shouldn't affect anything. could they get any worse anyway??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 You are mental. I will sign what i want. If the players get affected by 'We want Rupert Out' chants, then they should **** off and play for a nice friendly club where they never have any problems. They are professional players, and a few chants shouldn't affect anything. At least you deaf folk don't have to listen to it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 but the fans who start the anti lowe songs were not doing our club much good on the day. Even if they were not doing the Club much good (and I dispute that anyway), it pales into comparision with the damage that Poortvliet and Lowe are reeking on this Club. In the grand scheme of things, the fans come very near the bottom of what is wrong withthis Club, which is why I find it so hard to take people moaning about them, when the more culpable individuals are glossed over by some on here. If you vented just as much anger at Poortvliet, Wilde and Lowe, then i might respect you more, but instead your first dig, as always, is at the long suffering supporters. Arguably, protests against Poortvliet and Lowe, whenever they occur, are beneficial to this Club in the long run if it rids us of their divisive and failing presence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthamSteve Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 could they get any worse anyway??? It might get worse before it gets better.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Lets be honest here 28 games, 14 loses, 6 wins. 1 win at home 7 loses. Are any of you really surprised that people are protesting? As far as i'm concerned it was overdue. The team has been complete garbage, the manager has been complete garbage but most of all the board has been complete garbage. I don't like seeing people get hurt, it is wrong and the people who do it are stupid. But i don't blame them for the way they are feeling, i don't think they are wrong for venting their anger at the manager/players and board. In all honesty of over 20 years watching our club play this team is truely awful with some of the worst players i have ever seen. Add to that a crap manager and a **** of a board for those 27 games the fans for the majority of it have been world class. They have supported the lads and not sang anything too vocal against them the manager or board. Even when we were losing 0-3 to watford they still supported the lads. But we have now lost 2 games in the space of 2 weeks against teams around us (below us) at home and put in quite awful performances. Enough is enough. I don't blame the fans one bit, what has happened in the space of the past 12 months has brought this on. The fact it took so long is what surprises me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 They have supported the lads and not sang anything too vocal against them That's what I have found positive, in that very rarely has any displeasure been directed at the players, who on the whole aren't responsoble for this fccking debacle we find ourselves saddled with. I think today was the final straw for many as even last time around I didn't witness such anger, resentment, frustration and hatred towards the Board. Who will take the lead, because something has to be done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Um Bongo Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 That's what I have found positive, in that very rarely has any displeasure been directed at the players, who on the whole aren't responsoble for this fccking debacle we find ourselves saddled with. I think today was the final straw for many as even last time around I didn't witness such anger, resentment, frustration and hatred towards the Board. Who will take the lead, because something has to be done? It's not much but a banner will be produced for the next home game. Time for the Saints Trust to stand up and be counted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 It might get worse before it gets better.... lost at home to blackpool, forest, doncaster......can it get worse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 It's not much but a banner will be produced for the next home game. Time for the Saints Trust to stand up and be counted? It's up to the Trust members to start setting the tone for what they want to do. Just like that Ipswich game, today was a watershed for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Well we could lose at Norwich, get spanked by Swanse (highly likely) and then lose at Watford, casting us about 9 points adrift, but I see your point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthamSteve Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 lost at home to blackpool, forest, doncaster......can it get worse? Honestly? I think 'yes'. The future scares me at the moment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 lost at home to blackpool, forest, doncaster......can it get worse? We do have to play Charlton at home;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 It'll soon be over. Division amongst fans will soon be a thing of the past. Surely it can't be more than a few weeks before even the very few Ru**rt supporters see the light, and every supporter will make his/her feelings known to the coach, players and management. No division, no fights. Dont bet on it. Read the first line of nickh's post above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 There were fights in the Northam and Itchen today. There were protests during and after the game against Lowe. I sang anti Lowe songs in the Northam and outside the front of St Marys and if i had seen Lowe,i wouldve done my best to swing him from the Itchen Bridge myself.Also gave any corperates i saw a hard time as well because the ones who were watching us were very smug. While Lowe stays here things will only get worse. IMO its a miracle that us fans have put up with so much for so long. Lowe go now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Did anyone deck stanley ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 I am really wondering about nickh's sanity this evening....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 17 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Do you really believe this?? I don`t think that the sporadic singing of any song during the game had any effect on the players at all. We have won one league game at home this season. Is that because of supporters singing songs or is it for other reasons?:confused: Nickh. You don`t seem to have responded to my post.:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Have to agree with you Alpine, quite how he can STILL blame the fans is quite simply astonishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSaint76 Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Hello all I'm new to this forum, have been a Saints fan for 24 years and have been to countless amounts of games home and away. I have even taken my children and turned them into avid Saints fans as well. I am beyond depressed and fed up with the state of OUR club and I think it's about time we stood up for what we believe in and pull OUR club off of it's backside and get it back to where it belongs, which is a respected, family orientated and loved club by all supporters with no divides. We need to unite as one and begin protests immediately (Non Violent) but with a bigger plan in mind. We need to stand up and be counted put our hands in our pockets once again and purchase the shares needed to oust the likes of Lowe and his pitiful sidekicks. I appreciate money is tight for everyone at the moment but I would be more than willing to find 50 - 100 quid from my pitiful wages if I thought it could be done. If we can purchase enough shares and vote on how we want the club to be run even if that means administration and relegation for the bigger cause then perhaps we can achieve what we all obviously want and perhaps attract some outside interest in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobbo Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 A man in Northam challenged 10 to 15 idiots in the 1st half to get behind the team and not sing about that idiot Lowe. I also had a go at them about 10 minutes later (I actually do not want him here but came to support my beloved saints). It calmed down and at half time was ok., When we went 2-0 down they started again and as they left started trying to intimidate me and others around about Lowe and how right they were (as previously mentioned I agree but there is a time and place). While trying to get my point across I was punched in the face from behind from one of these cowards, on others seeing this they also reacted. I did not throw a single punch but do not know how I held myself back, but I won't lower myself to there level. I will not be going back to another game though as this situation has shown me that these idiots are worse than Lowe as even though he is just trying to protect his money with no care for the club these people are just there for violence not the football. I will miss it but today is the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 A man in Northam challenged 10 to 15 idiots in the 1st half to get behind the team and not sing about that idiot Lowe. I also had a go at them about 10 minutes later (I actually do not want him here but came to support my beloved saints). It calmed down and at half time was ok., When we went 2-0 down they started again and as they left started trying to intimidate me and others around about Lowe and how right they were (as previously mentioned I agree but there is a time and place). While trying to get my point across I was punched in the face from behind from one of these cowards, on others seeing this they also reacted. I did not throw a single punch but do not know how I held myself back, but I won't lower myself to there level. I will not be going back to another game though as this situation has shown me that these idiots are worse than Lowe as even though he is just trying to protect his money with no care for the club these people are just there for violence not the football. I will miss it but today is the end. Dobbo i am sorry to hear you were punched and theres no excuse.Hope you are ok. But if you pay your money,then you are intitled to voice an opinion,whether it be pro or anti Lowe. To be fair you must have realised that there would be a lot of anti Lowe feeling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Was in the Itchen North and just want to disabuse anyone of the idea that it was fans fighting fans. There was fighting in the second half but this was simply the continuation of a running battle with the stewards who've been trying to enforce the no standing policy. They've been heavy-handed and inflexible all season and fans reacted angrily when a couple of stewards tried to drag a fan for not sitting down. Its wrong to say that this was fans fighting fans rather it was fans fighting for fellow fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobbo Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 I agree but surely after the game (he wasn't even there also) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Shango Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Don't know what planet nickh is on. The fans get behind the team and they are still crap, it makes no difference. It's just a shame a lot of the anti Lowe fans don't turn up now and we don't get more protests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 The issue at the back of block 4 was because of a power hungry steward. He got himself in a situation he shouldnt have so all his mates then had to wade in as well. Now i am afraid that us older generation that sit back there are the wrong people to get lairy with as he found out. It was all over one fan standing, what ****es me off is the double standards as nobody batted an eyelid last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 I hope Mike Wilde is happy with himself. Saints fans fighting Saints fans, this is what this man has done to our club. I noticed several skirmishes and directly behind me were some of Ruperts rat pack threatening those singing the anti Lowe chants. I told the gobby **** i'll sing what i like as did several others and i thought the situation was going to end up with punches thrown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 No surprise to see the stewards acting like knobs again in the Itchen. It was a farce at times last season with them in Block 1. I think I hate them more than Lowe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 A man in Northam challenged 10 to 15 idiots in the 1st half to get behind the team and not sing about that idiot Lowe. I also had a go at them about 10 minutes later (I actually do not want him here but came to support my beloved saints). It calmed down and at half time was ok., When we went 2-0 down they started again and as they left started trying to intimidate me and others around about Lowe and how right they were (as previously mentioned I agree but there is a time and place). While trying to get my point across I was punched in the face from behind from one of these cowards, on others seeing this they also reacted. I did not throw a single punch but do not know how I held myself back, but I won't lower myself to there level. I will not be going back to another game though as this situation has shown me that these idiots are worse than Lowe as even though he is just trying to protect his money with no care for the club these people are just there for violence not the football. I will miss it but today is the end. Were you the bloke in about Row DD block 41? It looked like he took a bit of a pasting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwaySaint1 Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 lost at home to blackpool, forest, doncaster......can it get worse? Yes,next season when we lose at home to Walsall Yeovil and Swindon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 I can't wait for the next game, I have an invite to the hospitality (I am a season ticket holder) through work, and though I don't want to embarrass my guests, I think I probably will if I am near those c's in the box! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 tbh i dont think its pro lowe Vs anti lowe fans fighting each other its fans who slag the team off Vs fans who would rather wait until after the game. personally im all for letting the players know you are not happy during the game and i will fight any fvcker :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 This is why I like the back of 42, the Lowe out songs were being sung, you could tell some people didn't like them, but hey.... they are not coming on here slagging them off. We were laughing at the plastics going missing and the pathetic attendance from kick-off, it is sad times being a Saints fan. The good thing about the 'left' side of 42 is you can say what the f*ck you want and you won't get much grief. Fair play to the few lads that got on the pitch, fair play to the 2-300 that went round to reception after, fair play to the lads who were fighting with each other during the game, people might slag them off, but it's better they got it sorted face to face rather than coming back and logging on to TSF to vent their anger. I am old enough to have seen the Branfoot days, this is worse though, ok you could argue that Lowe cannot do much about the situation now, but let's not forget that it was him that got us here in the first place. We got Branfoot out through passion and intimidation, the same can be done with Lowe and Wilde ( who in my opinion is worse ), if everyone sticks together. Absolutely f*cking fed up with SFC, I f*cking wish I could walk away, but I can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 I sit in the Itchen. Seems that a 'gentleman' and friend stood up to protest about Lowe, the team or both. After a while an older lady behind asked for him to sit down. He the appeared to turn round and verbally slaughter the lady who was with an older gent and younger girl (daughter?) and then started rowing with other supporters and a steward You can support your team but F'ing and blinding at a female is the sign of a the moral decline of this once great club and country. The bloke was brandishing a season ticket. I am ashamed to be associated with such a moron!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Too easy to target our own, frustration levels are at about their peak, personally I do not want to hear fu(k all about Lowe during the game and have nearly got at it a few times for pointing out energy would be better spent directed at what is happening on the pitch, if true, those raining punches on Dobbo should be ashamed of themselves but like most hooligans who seek comfort in numbers will probably be sat in a pub somwhere exagerating the incident and painting themselves as a hard men oppose to the spineless (unts they really are. All in all a very sad day for Saints i.e US Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 I sit in the Itchen. Seems that a 'gentleman' and friend stood up to protest about Lowe, the team or both. After a while an older lady behind asked for him to sit down. He the appeared to turn round and verbally slaughter the lady who was with an older gent and younger girl (daughter?) and then started rowing with other supporters and a steward You can support your team but F'ing and blinding at a female is the sign of a the moral decline of this once great club and country. The bloke was brandishing a season ticket. I am ashamed to be associated with such a moron!! I'm afraid it's going to get a lot worse from now on in. Our fanbase is no longer a big united family - it's more reminiscent of a fanbase in civil war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 I sit in the Itchen. Seems that a 'gentleman' and friend stood up to protest about Lowe, the team or both. After a while an older lady behind asked for him to sit down. He the appeared to turn round and verbally slaughter the lady who was with an older gent and younger girl (daughter?) and then started rowing with other supporters and a steward You can support your team but F'ing and blinding at a female is the sign of a the moral decline of this once great club and country. The bloke was brandishing a season ticket. I am ashamed to be associated with such a moron!! Was that Itchen block 10? If so I saw a similar incident and the two supporters? were eventually escorted out although one of the blokes started having a go at the steward who looked like he was sh1tting himself. A few fans then tried to tell the idiot to hurry and go and his response was to stand by the stairway and offer fans out, he thought he was really hard offering to take on fellow supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 I was angry at the board, the players and the manager until I looked around at the fans. I saw people kicking off in the itchen; I saw two blokes kicking off just in front of me in the Kingsland; I saw numerous people kicking off in the Northam, and it just made me feel sad about how divided our club has become under Rupert Lowe. I would also like to say that the way the stewards dragged a YOUNG TEENAGE BOY out of the Northam, nearly breaking his arms in the process, was utterly disgusting. I was all for rushing the pitch and not leaving for a good few hours, but unfortunately it looked like I would have been on my own at the full time whistle, and didn't fancy getting my own arms broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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