pluto Posted 19 June, 2018 Share Posted 19 June, 2018 Ask the agent if they got a better deal, thats how it works or none of it would of been leaked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 19 June, 2018 Share Posted 19 June, 2018 Has he joined lcfc yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 19 June, 2018 Share Posted 19 June, 2018 Ask the agent if they got a better deal, thats how it works or none of it would of been leaked. Lol Do you seriously think he would say he did`nt get the better deal for his man... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 19 June, 2018 Share Posted 19 June, 2018 okay so we failed with Maddison. let's move on. hope he flops for LCFC of course even if he is English Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 19 June, 2018 Author Share Posted 19 June, 2018 Geography excuse = Destroyed!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 19 June, 2018 Share Posted 19 June, 2018 Geography excuse = Destroyed!! Told this morning from a pal who works at SFC that Madisson was offered much bigger wages at LCFC than we were prepared to pay so he went there even though he originally preferred SFC. He was mates with Reed at NCFC. LCFC just offered silly money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Fred Posted 19 June, 2018 Share Posted 19 June, 2018 No, but given this is him on Twitter what is he to gain from saying it if it is bull****? He didn't need to say anything about it. He isn't a random Twitter user, he is a journalist for a major broadcaster. Lol where do you think the source is from? The source is the agent who obviously wants his client to not look like another money grabbing mercenary....if he is given anything he tweets it, it's his job...and if he puts out what the agent wants he is more likely to get the next possibly juicier story... Who do you think his source is, if it's not someone from Maddison's camp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 19 June, 2018 Share Posted 19 June, 2018 Told this morning from a pal who works at SFC that Madisson was offered much bigger wages at LCFC than we were prepared to pay so he went there even though he originally preferred SFC. He was mates with Reed at NCFC. LCFC just offered silly money. Sounds about right. Yet more evidence there is zero ambition at SMS. We'll end up selling key players and bringing in journeymen. Again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 19 June, 2018 Share Posted 19 June, 2018 Lol where do you think the source is from? The source is the agent who obviously wants his client to not look like another money grabbing mercenary....if he is given anything he tweets it, it's his job...and if he puts out what the agent wants he is more likely to get the next possibly juicier story... Who do you think his source is, if it's not someone from Maddison's camp? Really you think anyone cares enough about that for him to go to the effort? No one would bat an eyelid if the player said he went to Leicester because they offered him more money it's not like anyone else wouldn't do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 19 June, 2018 Share Posted 19 June, 2018 Here is how this played out........ for those that dont seem to get it Agent told Leciester and us that Maddison was looking to move and Norwich would sell if the right price came along. It got to the stage where both Leicester and us agreed a fee with Norwich. Then the agent disclosed all this to the media, its clear Sky lyall has a direct line to the agent with whats been said. Disclosure purely done to ramp up personal details im sure of that and Leciester i suspect increased personal terms over the weekend. Player and agent has now got a better deal with Leicester and thats his preferred club due to financial and personal reasons. All this is then relayed to the agents media contacts like 'sky lyall' and other newspaper journos. I think the agent has then got grief from SFC about the leaking and then buckled to sky lyall to say it was 'only' about location, when reality is that that was just one part alongside wages. So overall Saints have been used by the agent to get a better deal from leicester. Agent = Base Soccer who clearly are very unproffesional or with football agents thats the norm. You can question how the club has been 'played' again by the agent as all the above happened with Walcott as well I think the phrase I used was "rank amateurs". Toby, Walcott, Maddison.... I see a pattern emerging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 19 June, 2018 Share Posted 19 June, 2018 (edited) OK, accepted its due to family/geography 10 hours later... I think the phrase I used was "rank amateurs". Toby, Walcott, Maddison.... I see a pattern emerging. (out of interest why do you cherry pick the ones that don't happen and not look at the good signings that have happened?) Edited 19 June, 2018 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 19 June, 2018 Share Posted 19 June, 2018 Wilshire will sign instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 19 June, 2018 Share Posted 19 June, 2018 (out of interest why do you cherry pick the ones that don't happen and not look at the good signings that have happened?) Been a while since that has happened tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 19 June, 2018 Share Posted 19 June, 2018 Wilshire will sign instead. Whoopie. More competition for the treatment table as opposed to starting places. Most overrated English player in a generation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 19 June, 2018 Share Posted 19 June, 2018 Sounds about right. Yet more evidence there is zero ambition at SMS. We'll end up selling key players and bringing in journeymen. Again. Because we won’t pay “much bigger wages” next you’ll be praising the club for paying Forster much bigger wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 19 June, 2018 Share Posted 19 June, 2018 Been a while since that has happened tbf. Last summer window signing of Mario Lemina was a good buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 19 June, 2018 Share Posted 19 June, 2018 10 hours later... (out of interest why do you cherry pick the ones that don't happen and not look at the good signings that have happened?) I am reacting to the discussion as it flows. Seeing as I dont know him, I dont know the real reason. And actually couldnt give a flying f**k, tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 19 June, 2018 Share Posted 19 June, 2018 Wilshire will sign instead. I’ll go Armstrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 19 June, 2018 Share Posted 19 June, 2018 Last summer window signing of Mario Lemina was a good buy. Behave. I like him but he hasn't consistently shown it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 19 June, 2018 Share Posted 19 June, 2018 Whoopie. More competition for the treatment table as opposed to starting places. tbf to him... 2017/18 - he played in 38 Arsenal games 2016/17 - he played in 29 Premier League games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 19 June, 2018 Share Posted 19 June, 2018 Last summer window signing of Mario Lemina was a good buy. Jury's still out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 19 June, 2018 Share Posted 19 June, 2018 tbf to him... 2017/18 - he played in 38 Arsenal games 2016/17 - he played in 29 Premier League games Is Charlie Austin injury prone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 19 June, 2018 Share Posted 19 June, 2018 Something I've noticed on my return, Alpine Saint and Heisenberg seem very depressed and i'm not convinced they are Saints fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 19 June, 2018 Share Posted 19 June, 2018 tbf to him... 2017/18 - he played in 38 Arsenal games 2016/17 - he played in 29 Premier League games Priceless Aint going to dispute your figures (got better things to do). So lets assume the laying-on-of-hands has worked and suddenly hes no longer Sick Note Mk2 and give him 100K per week... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 19 June, 2018 Share Posted 19 June, 2018 Something I've noticed on my return, Alpine Saint and Heisenberg seem very depressed and i'm not convinced they are Saints fans. I am a Saints fan extremely frustrated that the cretinous off-field management have learned absolutely jack-sh*t from staring over the abyss for so long last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 19 June, 2018 Share Posted 19 June, 2018 Something I've noticed on my return, Alpine Saint and Heisenberg seem very depressed and i'm not convinced they are Saints fans. One is but terminally negative the other isn't and is a multi log in troll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 19 June, 2018 Share Posted 19 June, 2018 tbf to him... 2017/18 - he played in 38 Arsenal games 2016/17 - he played in 29 Premier League games How many full 90 mins did he achieve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 19 June, 2018 Share Posted 19 June, 2018 Priceless Aint going to dispute your figures (got better things to do). So lets assume the laying-on-of-hands has worked and suddenly hes no longer Sick Note Mk2 and give him 100K per week... I was just playing Devil's advocate and showing his record over the last 2 seasons has been a lot better and he hasn't had as many injury problems. I did not say if we should sign him or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 19 June, 2018 Share Posted 19 June, 2018 I am a Saints fan extremely frustrated that the cretinous off-field management have learned absolutely jack-sh*t from staring over the abyss for so long last season. This is great, but clearly under the right management the squad can stay up. We won't sign anyone of worth or note, so no point going mental about it. #SouthamptonWay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 19 June, 2018 Share Posted 19 June, 2018 OK, accepted its due to family/geography, though we arent exactly talking West Coast to East Coast US here.. To that I say - what a pussy Mummys Boy, would‘t want him here then, the club doesnt need to employ somone to hold flannels on scratched knees ****ing hell, are you this much of a twt in real life. Is it really that hard to understand that if your choice is 2 similar sized clubs, and you were happy to play for either, a player may want to be a few miles away from his family rather than a couple of hours away. Clearly if it was Leicester or Juve , the player would move away to further his career. But if an Italian chooses Juve over Bayern for family reason, it doesn’t make him a mummy’s boy or some sort of pussy. Most normal people when given a similar choice would rather be near their parents, brothers, sisters, uncles etc, if possible. He’s not turning down a bigger club because he’s pussy whipped, like a certain Southampton legend did, he’s chosen between similar. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 19 June, 2018 Share Posted 19 June, 2018 Question is, why didn't Les Reed sign his family. We are a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 19 June, 2018 Share Posted 19 June, 2018 (edited) ... Edited 19 June, 2018 by Micky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 19 June, 2018 Author Share Posted 19 June, 2018 Something I've noticed on my return, Alpine Saint and Heisenberg seem very depressed and i'm not convinced they are Saints fans. I am depressed saints fan. Love n light x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 19 June, 2018 Author Share Posted 19 June, 2018 How many full 90 mins did he achieve. He played the equivalent of 12 full premier league games last season. He also played a fair amount in the European games. A classic MLG cut of data Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashnats Posted 19 June, 2018 Share Posted 19 June, 2018 Question is, why didn't Les Reed sign his family. We are a mess. this. I'm sure we could have moved a few relatives down for a few extra millions. Les out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Fred Posted 19 June, 2018 Share Posted 19 June, 2018 Really you think anyone cares enough about that for him to go to the effort? No one would bat an eyelid if the player said he went to Leicester because they offered him more money it's not like anyone else wouldn't do the same. Yes of course they do...his agent is paid to also manage his image...how many of our players have left and said "I left for the money". I am not saying it's wrong but it is reality....You live in a funny world if you think they aren't managing the image of players....even the very biggest stars never come out and say "I just signed a new contract because they paid me loads"....it's always about ambition and the club they love every etc which everyone knows is rubbish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 19 June, 2018 Share Posted 19 June, 2018 Yes of course they do...his agent is paid to also manage his image...how many of our players have left and said "I left for the money". I am not saying it's wrong but it is reality....You live in a funny world if you think they aren't managing the image of players....even the very biggest stars never come out and say "I just signed a new contract because they paid me loads"....it's always about ambition and the club they love every etc which everyone knows is rubbish Except Gaston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 19 June, 2018 Share Posted 19 June, 2018 I am a Saints fan extremely frustrated that the cretinous off-field management have learned absolutely jack-sh*t from staring over the abyss for so long last season. Problenm now though is that having stayed up last season, this is seen as successful management by the'board' in acting when they did and enhances Reeds self-belief of invincibiity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 19 June, 2018 Share Posted 19 June, 2018 Problenm now though is that having stayed up last season, this is seen as successful management by the'board' in acting when they did and enhances Reeds self-belief of invincibiity. Yes that sounds good does it not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 19 June, 2018 Share Posted 19 June, 2018 Yes that sounds good does it not Always curious what the B in John B stands for? Brown nose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 19 June, 2018 Share Posted 19 June, 2018 Problenm now though is that having stayed up last season, this is seen as successful management by the'board' in acting when they did and enhances Reeds self-belief of invincibiity. Is it? I didn't hear anyone congratulating themselves or claiming invincibility. Are you sure you're not just making this **** up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 19 June, 2018 Share Posted 19 June, 2018 Something I've noticed on my return, Alpine Saint and Heisenberg seem very depressed and i'm not convinced they are Saints fans.Would you like to be a mod? Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonb Posted 19 June, 2018 Share Posted 19 June, 2018 One is but terminally negative the other isn't and is a multi log in troll I've figured it out... Jeez I can't believe I've been so stupid.. I should have realised sooner... Gah what an idiot. This is the Trueman Show isn't it? None of you are actually real... Man I've been living this weird dream for years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 19 June, 2018 Share Posted 19 June, 2018 Except Gaston And Jose Fonte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 19 June, 2018 Share Posted 19 June, 2018 If Leicester have Maddison, will they still be after Patrick Roberts from City (reportedly they wanted him to replace Mahrez if they sell him to Man City), and will we be interested in Roberts, as we reportedly were last summer before he chose another loan spell at Celtic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 19 June, 2018 Share Posted 19 June, 2018 Is it? I didn't hear anyone congratulating themselves or claiming invincibility. Are you sure you're not just making this **** up? The problem is that people, without any knowledge of what ACTUALLY happened, spout their own suppositions as to what happened and then go on rant as though their speculation is actually true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 20 June, 2018 Share Posted 20 June, 2018 The problem is that people, without any knowledge of what ACTUALLY happened, spout their own suppositions as to what happened and then go on rant as though their speculation is actually true. ^ very much this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suomi Saint Posted 20 June, 2018 Share Posted 20 June, 2018 Personally, I don’t buy the ‘to be nearer the family’ explanation. England is such a small country to get around. I am sure if Real Madrid had come knocking then I’m sure it wouldn’t have been an issue. Les is just a poor negotiator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 20 June, 2018 Share Posted 20 June, 2018 Always curious what the B in John B stands for? Brown nose? That would need to be BN, thick ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 20 June, 2018 Share Posted 20 June, 2018 Personally, I don’t buy the ‘to be nearer the family’ explanation. England is such a small country to get around. I am sure if Real Madrid had come knocking then I’m sure it wouldn’t have been an issue. Les is just a poor negotiator. Or maybe we have our wage structure and we made him an offer within that. Leicester were prepared to offer a higher salary which we said we wouldn’t match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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