hypochondriac Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 1 minute ago, egg said: Now there's a sentence! Waking up to find out what made shit Trump had said overnight to Kim Jong Un was great fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 American’s thinking they are so worse off but still very much above any similar nation. Median salaries: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 4 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: To be fair, I think it's also because Harris is inextricably linked to the Bide and regime. A different candidate would have been able to differentiate themselves better although may not have made a difference. I actually agree he would have been a better candidate and do blame Biden for not stepping down much sooner. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 9 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: From a brit perspective, all the worst type of people are crying over this result on social media so that's rather satisfying too. From my Brit perspective the worst type of people are those that celebrate Trump. Vile individual and speaks volumes about anyone who champions him. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 (edited) 10 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: Foinavon won the Grand National at 100/1. There’s only so much you can analyse a horse. Human behaviour is far more scientific if you analyse correctly. It is like they knew this was likely result far more than any pollsters telling us it was neck and neck- made it more interesting for us but reality it wasn’t and if bookies were a poll there would have been no surprise from any of us this morning Edited November 6 by whelk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 1 minute ago, whelk said: From my Brit perspective the worst type of people are those that celebrate Trump. Vile individual and speaks volumes about anyone who champions him. In my opinion anyone who champions any political candidate is a bit weird. They're normally narcissistic cunts who don't give a shit about the electorate with very few exceptions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said: You almost care too much. Bless 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloucester Saint Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 4 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Waking up to find out what made shit Trump had said overnight to Kim Jong Un was great fun. Xi won’t believe his luck. One rambling, incoherent old man replaced by another at the #1 superpower. Exactly what China wanted in their strategic quest. Putin will be the short-term winner but the door is wide open for China globally. We just need to get closer to Europe again and repair 2016 to mitigate the fallout. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said: Oh dear Rory. Had an absolute shocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 24 minutes ago, trousers said: I can't work out if that's a clever question or not... however much you deny the truth the truth goes on existing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 (edited) 15 minutes ago, whelk said: Lesson is never doubt the bookies! Bugger... Edited November 6 by trousers 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 2 minutes ago, Turkish said: however much you deny the truth the truth goes on existing. It's Dusty Bin, isn't it...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 So, odds on a Boris comeback next then...? 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloucester Saint Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 11 minutes ago, whelk said: American’s thinking they are so worse off but still very much above any similar nation. Median salaries: It’s not just the salary it what’s comes with it in terms of quality of healthcare insurance and packages. America is very uneven and that chasm will continue to grow with tariffs which will hit the lowest earners in their essential weekly items. But it’s their choice. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
east-stand-nic Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 I assume there will be flood warnings up all around Hants and Kent as the tears roll down. Jeez there are some utter loony morons on this forum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 3 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said: It’s not just the salary it what’s comes with it in terms of quality of healthcare insurance and packages. America is very uneven and that chasm will continue to grow with tariffs which will hit the lowest earners in their essential weekly items. But it’s their choice. We don't really know for sure what Trump will do regarding tariffs. He says a lot of stuff all the time and not all of it happens. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloucester Saint Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 Just now, east-stand-nic said: I assume there will be flood warnings up all around Hants and Kent as the tears roll down. Jeez there are some utter loony morons on this forum. What I see is quite a lot of rational debate and analysing around the factors behind the scale of the result mostly with the odd more emotive post chucked in which are being criticised. But do crack on. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 2 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said: I assume there will be flood warnings up all around Hants and Kent as the tears roll down. Jeez there are some utter loony morons on this forum. As I pointed out earlier, you have made the next step towards intelligence. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 55 minutes ago, pingpong said: I wonder how much influence Musk will have now - and in future. Since trump is getting on, musk is a good shout for the next 'personality' president. (Edit - I know he isn't eligible now, but that could change...) Hulk Hogan, surely?! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 Putin will see it as money well spent. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloucester Saint Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 Just now, hypochondriac said: We don't really know for sure what Trump will do regarding tariffs. He says a lot of stuff all the time and not all of it happens. Hopefully this is one of them. Unfortunately with control of the Senate it’s a slightly different story. But as you say we will see. He has a rather busy foreign policy inbox too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 Maybe this humiliating loss will inspire a more patriotic left without the identity politics shit being more inclusive and tolerant of those with a different political opinion. I certainly hope so. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 10 minutes ago, trousers said: So, odds on a Boris comeback next then...? 😂 Are there enough thick people with different opinions to me to make it happen? Probably. I wonder if this is a case of when you think everyone else is the problem it isn't them?? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 18 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said: What I see is quite a lot of rational debate and analysing around the factors behind the scale of the result mostly with the odd more emotive post chucked in which are being criticised. But do crack on. His laughing emojis are key to any debate. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 Where do we think Trump's promised "retribution and revenge" will fall first ? And it looks like he will be appointing a vaccine conspiracy theorist to a post in healthcare to "make America healthy again". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
east-stand-nic Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 3 minutes ago, whelk said: His laughing emojis are key to any debate. The hypocrisy of you and this other numbskull are beyond compare. Everything you deride me for you do yourself in spades. If you would like it to stop, why not show willing and stop the idiocy yourself first? Deal? 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 9 hours ago, Turkish said: If trump wins I’ll be hitting the gym Thursday morning, fasting until 12, working hard during the day, taking care of things that impact my immediate sphere of influence If Harris wins I’ll be hitting the gym Thursday morning, fasting until 12, working hard during the day, taking care of things that impact my immediate sphere of influence what I won’t be doing is grizzle gutting or celebrating on an internet forum thousands of miles away about stuff I have literally zero impact In the result that’s your problem SOG. Maybe if you cared more about what was in front of you and not what you can’t impact then your life wouldn’t have been such a disaster Taking that a step further presumably you didn’t give a shit about Russia’s invasion of Ukraine as didn’t impact your gym time? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 2 minutes ago, whelk said: Taking that a step further presumably you didn’t give a shit about Russia’s invasion of Ukraine as didn’t impact your gym time? put the price of petrol and gas up so yes. Cost me more to get there so valued my time there even more. Have no control over it though so what's the point of thumping away at your keyboard about how terrible it is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 Just now, east-stand-nic said: The hypocrisy of you and this other numbskull are beyond compare. Everything you deride me for you do yourself in spades. If you would like it to stop, why not show willing and stop the idiocy yourself first? Deal? I don’t need anything to stop as your posts and emojis are insignificant to me. Occasionally amusing I’ll give you that. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloucester Saint Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 3 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: Where do we think Trump's promised "retribution and revenge" will fall first ? And it looks like he will be appointing a vaccine conspiracy theorist to a post in healthcare to "make America healthy again". It might be an opportunity for the UK to pick up some of their best biomedical scientists for a few years. Not overtly targeting them but creating the incoming chairs and fellowships that all can apply for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 1 minute ago, Gloucester Saint said: It might be an opportunity for the UK to pick up some of their best biomedical scientists for a few years. Not overtly targeting them but creating the incoming chairs and fellowships that all can apply for. Any Haitian doctors? Is there still a lorry driver shortage? That used to be a thing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloucester Saint Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 This is a good piece by Chris Mason. A pragmatic hedging is best, probably a warm on the surface but transactional underneath as was the case with Teresa May. Trump has never been bothered with the special relationship but if dealings work for both sides then no point cutting off the UK’s nose to spite our face. It will nudge the UK government more economically and on security policy towards Europe which is logical anyway, Obama had a China pivot so that’s not new. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpvzjr8w9mxo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 1 hour ago, benjii said: Hulk Hogan, surely?! A better option than Trump. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 2 hours ago, east-stand-nic said: I assume there will be flood warnings up all around Hants and Kent as the tears roll down. Jeez there are some utter loony morons on this forum. Tears being shed all around the world. But still, you are ok. The most powerful man in the western world is a conspiracy theorist. You clearly don’t seem to understand why so many people are upset about this result. It will have serious ramifications for so many people outside of the US, but hey, we are the utter loony morons. As has been said so many times before, you have zero self awareness. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 Look forward to his protest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted November 6 Author Share Posted November 6 Quote The president-elect's gigantic 59 percent stake in Trump Media and Technology Group (TMTG) corresponds to 114.75 million shares. Based on the current stock price of $45 per share, Trump Media now boasts of a market capitalization of $9 billion. This means that Trump's stake is currently worth a whopping $5.3 billion. 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
east-stand-nic Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 19 minutes ago, sadoldgit said: Tears being shed all around the world. But still, you are ok. The most powerful man in the western world is a conspiracy theorist. You clearly don’t seem to understand why so many people are upset about this result. It will have serious ramifications for so many people outside of the US, but hey, we are the utter loony morons. As has been said so many times before, you have zero self awareness. Under who’s watch did Israel kick off with Palestine? Under who’s watch did Russia kick off with Ukraine? Under who’s watch did inflation shoot up? Under who’s watch did the economy tumble and cost of living shoot up? Hmm. So, I lack self awareness Yo are a dope sir. The fact of Trump is that because he is such a loose cannot and rather unpredictable he keeps a lot of peace as world leaders fear him doing something stupid with a certain red button. How many wars started on his watch? How was employment, especially for the black and Hispanic communities (reading proper news articles not fake news designed to make him look bad)? The problem with people like you is no matter how good people like trump and the Tories do, you will berate them. Likewise, when ‘Liebour’ started to do bad tory-like things you back them saying it is right at this time. You are so entrenched in your bias views, you cannot and will not see anything other than what you believe. It is you who lacks self awareness and any ounce of ability to see things truthfully and give credit where it is due, based entirely of your skewed. opinion of that person. I wait the enormous levels of BS replies and silliness. But there is no getting away from the FACTS! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 2 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said: Under who’s watch did Israel kick off with Palestine? Under who’s watch did Russia kick off with Ukraine? Under who’s watch did inflation shoot up? Under who’s watch did the economy tumble and cost of living shoot up? Hmm. So, I lack self awareness Yo are a dope sir. The fact of Trump is that because he is such a loose cannot and rather unpredictable he keeps a lot of peace as world leaders fear him doing something stupid with a certain red button. How many wars started on his watch? How was employment, especially for the black and Hispanic communities (reading proper news articles not fake news designed to make him look bad)? The problem with people like you is no matter how good people like trump and the Tories do, you will berate them. Likewise, when ‘Liebour’ started to do bad tory-like things you back them saying it is right at this time. You are so entrenched in your bias views, you cannot and will not see anything other than what you believe. It is you who lacks self awareness and any ounce of ability to see things truthfully and give credit where it is due, based entirely of your skewed. opinion of that person. I wait the enormous levels of BS replies and silliness. But there is no getting away from the FACTS! When a dyed in the wool conspiracy theorist starts talking about FACTS! You know it is tin foil hat time. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 (edited) 12 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Look forward to his protest. Popped the cork on the champagne yet? The man should be behind bars. Lammy is right about Trump but we aren’t the only country who are going to have to suck it up. Have you read A Handmaid’s Tale? Edited November 6 by sadoldgit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloucester Saint Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 10 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Look forward to his protest. Trump won’t be bothered by it, has said plenty himself and in fact took time out of his schedule to meet with Lammy and Starmer over dinner privately in Trump Tower in September. He’s America First but if he wants to do a deal with UK, Europe, anybody else that he think is advantageous, he will do it. If he doesn’t, whatever the noise and rhetoric, he won’t. He was the same with May. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 (edited) 3 hours ago, trousers said: I don't disagree with that, but maybe, just maybe, there are 'cleverer' ways of engaging with people who have an alternative point of view, no matter how 'stupid' that point of view is...? Tend to agree that calling people stupid won’t get them on your side but how do you engage better with people who still believe 2020 was stolen despite there being no evidence, or who believe the government controls the weather? Edited November 6 by revolution saint 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloucester Saint Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 (edited) 5 minutes ago, revolution saint said: Tend to agree that calling people stupid won’t get them on your side but how do you engage better with people who still believe 2020 was stolen despite there being no evidence, or who believe the government controls the weather? That’s his MAGA base but it’s not the 18% of Latinos who switched for the most part. Trump will likely build up another substantial deficit, he’s not a dry fiscal traditional type of conservative, he’s a spender and cultural and demographic one. Latinos may think they can get some of that. Democrats have to make the economic case of steady economic and political growth and daily improvements in people’s access to core services - health, police, environmental. Edited November 6 by Gloucester Saint 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 (edited) Taking the high ground clearly hasn’t worked for the Democrats but let’s hope they don’t do down the road of fighting fire with fire and find their own “Trump” candidate in future. Harris won’t claim that the election has been stolen or encourage her supporters to storm Capitol Hill but as Trump has shown, playing to the lowest common denominator and ignoring rules and decency don’t preclude you from appealing to millions of voters. Edited November 6 by sadoldgit 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 Why is the party of the right red and that of the left blue, when in almost every other national political contest it is the other way round ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 3 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: Why is the party of the right red and that of the left blue, when in almost every other national political contest it is the other way round ? Something to do with the bush gore election if I recall. Up till then I don’t think they were standardised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripey McStripe Shirt Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 3 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: Why is the party of the right red and that of the left blue, when in almost every other national political contest it is the other way round ? The colours are nothing to do left v right. They obviously relate to which side of the Saints v Pompey rivalry they side with. Sunak was just a rebel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 https://x.com/susie_dent/status/1854071082988237264 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 Trump is older than Biden was when he was elected. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 18 minutes ago, sadoldgit said: Taking the high ground clearly hasn’t worked for the Democrats but let’s hope they don’t do down the road of fighting fire with fire and find their own “Trump” candidate in future. Harris won’t claim that the election has been stolen or encourage her supporters to storm Capitol Hill but as Trump has shown, playing to the lowest common denominator and ignoring rules and decency don’t preclude you from appealing to millions of voters. Trump was almost killed twice by Democrat supporters. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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