badgerx16 Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 2 hours ago, sadoldgit said: Would you honestly be happy for the USA to return to the days of “splendid isolation?” That worked well for us 🙄 How many years late would they be for WW3 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloucester Saint Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 (edited) 1 hour ago, badgerx16 said: I thought you had fucked off from the forum. As predicted, pops up again just ahead of the US Presidential result to stir it up. PS everyone - if you must respond to him, can you not quote him? Only poster I have on ignore and want it to stay that way. Edited October 29 by Gloucester Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 4 hours ago, Guided Missile said: Truth Social now 51.94 you total losers. How much for Agform now? Still holding out for that big bucks deal which is imminent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 5 hours ago, badgerx16 said: I thought you had fucked off from the forum. Nursey left the laptop on whilst she attended to another inmate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 10 hours ago, sadoldgit said: Would you honestly be happy for the USA to return to the days of “splendid isolation?” That worked well for us 🙄 Maybe we should be in a position to look after ourselves more. Our Armed services are a mere shadow of what they once were, and would not last a bad weekend against a peer. To think, we are one of the most powerful military nations in Europe. however, this all costs money and there are too many free things to be paid for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 £3bn increase to defence budget for next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 13 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: Maybe we should be in a position to look after ourselves more. Our Armed services are a mere shadow of what they once were, and would not last a bad weekend against a peer. To think, we are one of the most powerful military nations in Europe. however, this all costs money and there are too many free things to be paid for Ah, the good old days of the Empire eh? I am sorry to break your illusion but things changed a great deal last century, the balances of power changed enormously and without America things would be very different now. As for “free stuff” the Welfare State is not to blame for our not being a major power now. Frankly I am happy that we choose to look after people more than we chose to spend a fortune on becoming like the current super powers. We treat our citizens far better than the Americans, Russians and Chinese do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 2 minutes ago, sadoldgit said: Ah, the good old days of the Empire eh? I am sorry to break your illusion but things changed a great deal last century, the balances of power changed enormously and without America things would be very different now. As for “free stuff” the Welfare State is not to blame for our not being a major power now. Frankly I am happy that we choose to look after people more than we chose to spend a fortune on becoming like the current super powers. We treat our citizens far better than the Americans, Russians and Chinese do. Then be happy for Donald trump to steer our country’s foreign policy. Not sure why on earth you are mentioning empire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSaint Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 23 hours ago, Guided Missile said: Truth Social now 51.94 you total losers. I'd sell up NOW if I were you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 Calling Trump supporters garbage probably isn't the smartest idea. That didn't work for Hillary either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Calling Trump supporters garbage probably isn't the smartest idea. That didn't work for Hillary either. Yep. Naive, unnecessary, and could make a real difference to the outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 5 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Calling Trump supporters garbage probably isn't the smartest idea. That didn't work for Hillary either. Yeah. It stopped the Democrats from getting the full news mileage on the Republican warm up act's comments. I heard that Biden had wanted to be supporting Harris more at events ahead of the election, only for her team to politely keep him as far away as possible. Probably reducing the chance of accidentally spiking oil prices by keeping him quieter too. I wonder what else they'll do to alienate voters before the election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 23 minutes ago, egg said: Yep. Naive, unnecessary, and could make a real difference to the outcome. No it won’t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 3 minutes ago, whelk said: No it won’t In a very tight race it only needs to have a relatively small impact to make a difference. The comment from Hillary certainly did and you've got Trump capitalising already today driving a Trump garbage truck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 1 minute ago, hypochondriac said: In a very tight race it only needs to have a relatively small impact to make a difference. The comment from Hillary certainly did and you've got Trump capitalising already today driving a Trump garbage truck. The Hillary one yes. Don’t think what Biden said will change anyone. He isn’t on the ballot and is v old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 23 minutes ago, whelk said: The Hillary one yes. Don’t think what Biden said will change anyone. He isn’t on the ballot and is v old Whether it makes a difference or not, it's still a really dumb thing to say a week out from the election. Poor old semi-senile Joe is adding to the problems Kamala has when she really doesn't need any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 (edited) Wrong thread! Edited October 31 by hypochondriac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 25 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: No sign of a £22 billion black hole according to the OBR either so that was a load of bullshit as if we weren't already aware. True. It's a £129 billion black hole deficit this year alone. Way bigger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloucester Saint Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 10 hours ago, hypochondriac said: Whether it makes a difference or not, it's still a really dumb thing to say a week out from the election. Poor old semi-senile Joe is adding to the problems Kamala has when she really doesn't need any more. Hard to know if Biden thought he was helping her or getting revenge. I almost wonder if it was a bit of both…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted October 31 Author Share Posted October 31 15 hours ago, LVSaint said: I'd sell up NOW if I were you... I sold at around $40 and bought in again at $16, when the experts on here were telling me the stock was going to shit. I’ll sell a week after Trump wins, as I suggested when I first posted. I might wait until Musk buys the company though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 (edited) 2 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said: Hard to know if Biden thought he was helping her or getting revenge. I almost wonder if it was a bit of both…. I wonder if he was referring to “supporters” as those they wheel out on the platforms like the “comedian” who made the original garbage comment? Not all those who did or will vote for Trump necessarily support him. If that is the case he needs to make it clearer. Update - that was his point and he has clarified it. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdd09e4nl30o.amp Edited October 31 by sadoldgit Add text Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 2 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said: Hard to know if Biden thought he was helping her or getting revenge. I almost wonder if it was a bit of both…. He looked as though he was myopically trying to read from an autocue. Even then, he stumbled with the sentences leading up to it, resulting in his comment. Hard to know what he actually means, with his lack of coherency. I understand why getting there, he wanted to hang on for his second term. But he looks frailer every time I see him. Just think of the comments he'd have made had Harris not been selected and he was picking up on all those appearances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 (edited) 13 hours ago, hypochondriac said: Whether it makes a difference or not, it's still a really dumb thing to say a week out from the election. Poor old semi-senile Joe is adding to the problems Kamala has when she really doesn't need any more. Can't see it making any difference. Surely anyone offended by that wouldn't be voting Harris anyway, and it was pretty tame compared to the language used by Trump's lot. It is a shame Biden made the comment though, I thought Harris speech in Washington was very good, especially the points she made about the other side not being 'enemies'. Edited October 31 by aintforever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 Biden makes an ill advised comment about an abhorrent comment previously made and it is a big deal. Trump constantly makes ill advised comments (grabbing women by the pussy, the size of Arnold Palmer’s manhood, migrants are cockroaches etc etc) and yet this is an issue for Harris and not for Trump? Vance has made many advised comments but those aren’t an issue for Trump. The issue for Harris is that her campaign and suitability for the role as the next POTUS seems to be held to a higher standard than the other candidate. If this vote hangs on this quote from Biden, the whole world needs to be worried, not just Kamala Harris 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdmickey3 Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 2 minutes ago, sadoldgit said: Biden makes an ill advised comment about an abhorrent comment previously made and it is a big deal. Trump constantly makes ill advised comments (grabbing women by the pussy, the size of Arnold Palmer’s manhood, migrants are cockroaches etc etc) and yet this is an issue for Harris and not for Trump? Vance has made many advised comments but those aren’t an issue for Trump. The issue for Harris is that her campaign and suitability for the role as the next POTUS seems to be held to a higher standard than the other candidate. If this vote hangs on this quote from Biden, the whole world needs to be worried, not just Kamala Harris I think no one is surprised when the orange man baby makes awful comments because its the norm from him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 4 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said: I think no one is surprised when the orange man baby makes awful comments because its the norm from him Which is precisely the problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 Today's quick look has Trump saying "whether the women want it or not" in reference to protection from "migrants" and "missiles" The Beeb have a still of Biden at the worst possible point of him interacting with a child dressed up as a chicken. The still shows Biden taking a bite from the child's costumed leg. So one for those folk believing in the worst of activities on social media. The actual video of course shows something rather different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 1 hour ago, aintforever said: Can't see it making any difference. Surely anyone offended by that wouldn't be voting Harris anyway, and it was pretty tame compared to the language used by Trump's lot. It is a shame Biden made the comment though, I thought Harris speech in Washington was very good, especially the points she made about the other side not being 'enemies'. It's not about if you are offended, it's about motivating a small percentage of voters to vote Trump who maybe weren't voting previously. An offhand dismissive comment like that may influence enough voters to make a difference. In a close race like this why take the risk? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 2 hours ago, Guided Missile said: I sold at around $40 and bought in again at $16, when the experts on here were telling me the stock was going to shit. I’ll sell a week after Trump wins, as I suggested when I first posted. I might wait until Musk buys the company though. " I've decided to hang up my keyboard and depart this champagne socialist, craft beer swigging, public sector employed hotbed of Saints fans." GM realising he has made a mistake; 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 1 hour ago, hypochondriac said: It's not about if you are offended, it's about motivating a small percentage of voters to vote Trump who maybe weren't voting previously. An offhand dismissive comment like that may influence enough voters to make a difference. In a close race like this why take the risk? Some 80 odd million non voters out there. I've read a few things suggesting that Trump's name recognition and style has caused some worrying on the other side, as he can pick up voters more easily. A fair bit of that was for unregistered voters though. Like the Puerto Rica comments, all it takes is for someone having an emotive response close to the day from something really horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 1 hour ago, hypochondriac said: It's not about if you are offended, it's about motivating a small percentage of voters to vote Trump who maybe weren't voting previously. An offhand dismissive comment like that may influence enough voters to make a difference. In a close race like this why take the risk? As it’s Biden it wasn't a calculated risk. Often he doesn’t know what he is saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 30 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: Some 80 odd million non voters out there. I've read a few things suggesting that Trump's name recognition and style has caused some worrying on the other side, as he can pick up voters more easily. A fair bit of that was for unregistered voters though. Like the Puerto Rica comments, all it takes is for someone having an emotive response close to the day from something really horrible. Trump knows how to draw the media and use such things for coverage. The average not politically minded American probably only saw Trump working in McDonald’s this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 1 hour ago, whelk said: As it’s Biden it wasn't a calculated risk. Often he doesn’t know what he is saying That wasn't the message that Democrats were sending out for months right up until he was pressured to step down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 1 hour ago, whelk said: Trump knows how to draw the media and use such things for coverage. The average not politically minded American probably only saw Trump working in McDonald’s this week. Not sure why everyone is crying about the Puerto Rico comment. I agree with well-known lefty Jon Stewart: https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1851138132596408499?t=VK8uONLQlyVAMMvFy_63AA&s=19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 2 hours ago, whelk said: Trump knows how to draw the media and use such things for coverage. The average not politically minded American probably only saw Trump working in McDonald’s this week. And in high Viz too! #manofthepeople 39 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Not sure why everyone is crying about the Puerto Rico comment. I agree with well-known lefty Jon Stewart: https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1851138132596408499?t=VK8uONLQlyVAMMvFy_63AA&s=19 Nice to see a bit of balance. Sadly, it's the nature of things that one side will leap on any slip from the other, and run with it as far as possible. The roast comedy point was worth hearing too. Always takes me by surprise, as it's not my kind of thing. Trump: Warm up act with a history of that, and who and libbed on the night. Biden: Stumbling through the sentences leading up to his comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Weston Super Saint Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 3 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: FFS. Where does skin stop and hi-vis start? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 24 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: FFS. Where does skin stop and hi-vis start? Even worse is some other pics 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 2 minutes ago, The Kraken said: Even worse is some other pics 🤣 Is he talking about Arnold Palmer again? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 49 minutes ago, whelk said: Is he talking about Arnold Palmer again? his campaign is doing the correct thing and making him part of the news cycle. I haven't seen or heard anything about Kamala at all. Political Stunts are the right way to go at this stage. JD vance has now done Rogan and taken the slot offered to Kamala. It's crazy she hasn't done it given Trump got 100 million views in a week and it's the exact demographic Harris needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 29 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: his campaign is doing the correct thing and making him part of the news cycle. I haven't seen or heard anything about Kamala at all. Political Stunts are the right way to go at this stage. JD vance has now done Rogan and taken the slot offered to Kamala. It's crazy she hasn't done it given Trump got 100 million views in a week and it's the exact demographic Harris needs. I caught some of Harris's speech in front of the White House. Impressive setting, but you're right that Hi Viz Don is front of the news I've seen today. Harris's team wary of leaving openings in any interview, let alone one lasting 3 hours. Trump isn't worried about that and Vance would be fine there too. It just connects Trump to voters and adds to the remoteness of the politicians Trump complains about. Looking forward to them both on a zipwire tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 17 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: I caught some of Harris's speech in front of the White House. Impressive setting, but you're right that Hi Viz Don is front of the news I've seen today. Harris's team wary of leaving openings in any interview, let alone one lasting 3 hours. Trump isn't worried about that and Vance would be fine there too. It just connects Trump to voters and adds to the remoteness of the politicians Trump complains about. Looking forward to them both on a zipwire tomorrow. Common criticisms I have seen from Americans is that Harris is robotic, only does scripted or tightly controlled interviews so comes across as inauthentic and uses apt of. Words to say very little of substance. You'd think a long form interview having a chat with someone with a proven record of being cordial and not hammering someone with gotcha questions would be the perfect opportunity to counter almost all of those criticisms. Imagine if she was herself for three hours and the young largely male demographic gets to see a completely different side to her. Like I said, I think it's a huge own goal not to do it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 32 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Common criticisms I have seen from Americans is that Harris is robotic, only does scripted or tightly controlled interviews so comes across as inauthentic and uses apt of. Words to say very little of substance. You'd think a long form interview having a chat with someone with a proven record of being cordial and not hammering someone with gotcha questions would be the perfect opportunity to counter almost all of those criticisms. Imagine if she was herself for three hours and the young largely male demographic gets to see a completely different side to her. Like I said, I think it's a huge own goal not to do it. You might be right but the analysis on who to reach by the Democrats will be collosal. They aren’t probably putting their confidence in Joe Rogan’s audience with time at a premium. Let’s hope voters are more interested in not voting for a mad narcissist cunt with no coherent policies rather than being wowed by seeing him in a hi-vis vest. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 Plenty of other examples of ‘influencers’ endorsing Harris. jsut the 53m followers for LeBron James 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 56 minutes ago, whelk said: You might be right but the analysis on who to reach by the Democrats will be collosal. They aren’t probably putting their confidence in Joe Rogan’s audience with time at a premium. Let’s hope voters are more interested in not voting for a mad narcissist cunt with no coherent policies rather than being wowed by seeing him in a hi-vis vest. Happy to go on some no mark podcast with 750k views though instead of the largest podcast in the world, miles bigger than every television network with hundreds of millions of views for every podcast he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 53 minutes ago, whelk said: Plenty of other examples of ‘influencers’ endorsing Harris. jsut the 53m followers for LeBron James And kamala has the black vote already. It's the white male vote she needs more of - and she won't reach more of them than doing Rogan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted November 1 Share Posted November 1 Trump’s supporters laughed at these comments yet we are supposed to get upset about them being called “garbage.” Perhaps scumbags is more appropriate? https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/trump-says-liz-cheney-should-have-guns-trained-on-her-face-lets-see-how-/amp_articleshow/114849787.cms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted November 1 Share Posted November 1 18 minutes ago, sadoldgit said: Trump’s supporters laughed at these comments yet we are supposed to get upset about them being called “garbage.” Perhaps scumbags is more appropriate? https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/trump-says-liz-cheney-should-have-guns-trained-on-her-face-lets-see-how-/amp_articleshow/114849787.cms He makes a valid point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted November 1 Share Posted November 1 6 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said: He makes a valid point. Like the Puerto Rica and garbage comments, there's been some attempt to be outraged by this. But there was plenty of context, picked up by more reasoned news sources, to show this as a sign of Trump's isolationism/ protection of the use of US Forces. In reality, the US defence industry is not going to want to go into decline. So possibly a Trump tenure with less direct US involvement, but one that's happy to sell lots of toys to nations that will be filling in the gaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted November 1 Share Posted November 1 Racists making excuses for racists lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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