Donald Trump Appreciation Thread

[sadoldgit]

You are entitled to believe what you like. Where is your evidence that Starmer and Harris are Marxists?

[Turkish]

3 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

You are entitled to believe what you like. Where is your evidence that Starmer and Harris are Marxists?

[The Kraken]

Kier needs to up his shoe game. Thats some shoddy looking footwear for a man of his status.

[Turkish]

2 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

Kier needs to up his shoe game. Thats some shoddy looking footwear for a man of his status.

agree that's really poor from someone so senior in this country, the very least you'd expect is a well polished pair of loakes brogues. 

[whelk]

7 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

Kier needs to up his shoe game. Thats some shoddy looking footwear for a man of his status.

He looks like he is being forced against his will too. Dreadful suit also

[Guided Missile]

45 minutes ago, The Left Back said:

This is the sort of thing I mean.  All leaders 'operate the levers of power', it's in the job description. I am having to work too hard to work out what you mean.  If I was guessing, by joining your quotes together, I think you believe that in the next five years Starmer will "advocate for the working class to overthrow the capitalist system and call for revolutionary change to achieve equality of outcome, not opportunity and social justice.  Is that what you mean and what you believe?  If so, please expand on why you think so.

Both Harris and Starmer have either lied, changed  or kept quiet about their real beliefs and policies to gain the levers of power. Starmer has demonstrated, very quickly reverted to his Marxist roots, in my opinion and is on course to ruin this country. He may get away with blaming the previous government for a while, but they weren't to blame from stealing from the Tory voting pensioners and giving it to Marxist Mick Lynch. 

That was the thing about Thatcher. You always knew where you were with her. She DID inherit a bankrupt country, turned it round and rebuilt our world standing. Who do we have on the world stage now? David fucking Lammy.

[spyinthesky]

Just seen the Trump phone into Fox News.

He maintains that ABC need to have their Broadcasting Licence taken away because of the way they moderated the debate.

Trump was more than happy by the way he performed and he said that it was 80/20 in his favour although one poll reckoned he won by 92 to 7!!!!!!!!!!!

Perhaps he is taking lessons from Diane Abbott,

[sadoldgit]

1 hour ago, Guided Missile said:

Both Harris and Starmer have either lied, changed  or kept quiet about their real beliefs and policies to gain the levers of power. Starmer has demonstrated, very quickly reverted to his Marxist roots, in my opinion and is on course to ruin this country. He may get away with blaming the previous government for a while, but they weren't to blame from stealing from the Tory voting pensioners and giving it to Marxist Mick Lynch. 

That was the thing about Thatcher. You always knew where you were with her. She DID inherit a bankrupt country, turned it round and rebuilt our world standing. Who do we have on the world stage now? David fucking Lammy.

You don’t think that we are in this mess because of the last 14 years or Tory policies?

People are entitled to change their minds. Surely a pragmatic approach is better than a dogmatic approach. Needs must etc.

So you have no actual evidence that Starmer and Harris are Marxists, you just think that. Ok.

The train strike needed to be resolved and they were always going to get more money - even if the Tories were still in power.

Labour voting pensioners are more likely to be affected than Tory voting pensioners - many of whom do not need the winter fuel allowance. Surely if Starmer was a Marxist he would be taking from the rich and giving to the poor? Not a great start for the Marxist revolution is it?

Any real evidence?

Talking of ruining the country, any thoughts on Liz Truss’s budget?

 

 

 

Edited 11 September, 2024 by sadoldgit

[badgerx16]

22 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Any real evidence?

GM's 'evidence' is whatever the Daily Torygraph tells him, and his original thinking comes courtesy of ChatGPT.

It probably wouldn't surprise him to find out that I have a better understanding and experience of the political left; my mother was a member of the Communist party, my skate step father was a shop steward at Fords Eastleigh factory, in addition to the Daily Mirror we used to get the Socialist Worker and even Soviet Weekly delivered to our house. Mind you, that isn't indicative of how we grew and developed - my brother got a first at Cambridge, made a pile in the City, martied into gentrified money, and now owns a chunk of Herefordshire.

[The Left Back]

1 hour ago, Guided Missile said:

Both Harris and Starmer have either lied, changed  or kept quiet about their real beliefs and policies to gain the levers of power. Starmer has demonstrated, very quickly reverted to his Marxist roots, in my opinion and is on course to ruin this country. He may get away with blaming the previous government for a while, but they weren't to blame from stealing from the Tory voting pensioners and giving it to Marxist Mick Lynch. 

That was the thing about Thatcher. You always knew where you were with her. She DID inherit a bankrupt country, turned it round and rebuilt our world standing. Who do we have on the world stage now? David fucking Lammy.

Thanks for attempting to bring more to your argument.  I fundamentally disagree with you on 90% of it but at least I'm beginning to understand you.  

I don't think taking £300 off a mixed bunch of old people is enough to warrant marxist allegations and won't be enough to 'ruin this country' but I can see that you fear this being the tip of the iceberg.  I personally hope for a raft of policies that I suspect will give you similar rant-inducing palpitations.

Your Thatcher point is comparing apples with pears.  I grant she was an impactful leader and prepared to be unpopular in pursing her agenda.  I didn't agree with her agenda at all, and was personally involved in some of the unwelcome consequences, but accept she was a leader of substance.  I'm hoping Starmer is willing to be equally as unpopular in pursuit of a future or this country which is vastly different to the last 14 years.

On the comparison with David Lammy, as I said it's apples and pears.   I'd be interested in how you rate his performance against the last collection of Foreign Secretaries, and how they helped our 'world standing'.  To remind you of who they were since 2010: Hague, Hammond, Johnson, Hunt, Raab, Truss, Cleverly, Cameron.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

14 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

GM's 'evidence' is whatever the Daily Torygraph tells him, and his original thinking comes courtesy of ChatGPT.

It probably wouldn't surprise him to find out that I have a better understanding and experience of the political left; my mother was a member of the Communist party, my skate step father was a shop steward at Fords Eastleigh factory, in addition to the Daily Mirror we used to get the Socialist Worker and even Soviet Weekly delivered to our house. Mind you, that isn't indicative of how we grew and developed - my brother got a first at Cambridge, made a pile in the City, martied into gentrified money, and now owns a chunk of Herefordshire.

How much simpler to overthrow capitalist structures when you own them! Don't be deflected from their long term goals! 🙂

[Stripey McStripe Shirt]

2 hours ago, whelk said:

He looks like he is being forced against his will too. Dreadful suit also

That's what you're concerned about?

He has three book shelves, but only enough books to fill one of them. 

But you're concerned about his clothing? Get your priorities straight.

[Gloucester Saint]

On the pensioners £300 winter fuel allowance, and that’s the maximum, some won’t even get that much, it’s not ideal but the vast majority of those who actually need it will still receive from what I’ve seen and plenty like our parents who really don’t need it as much. One of them is still moaning about it (Telegraph reader) having said in the past they didn’t need it and it should go to someone who did.

If we are talking intergenerational fairness, the u55s have had to eat nearly all of the shit sandwiches arising from Brexit thus far (with a blank where the supposed benefits are) so only fair the segment of the population who voted for it in the largest numbers take at least a small bit of the burden the economic shortfall of £40bn is causing. Because without Brexit, £22bn unaccounted for hiding migration accommodation spending by the previous government and an unfunded tax cut would have caused moderate spending cuts and freezes, but not the same impact. And the new government has pledged to be responsible with the public finances, yet the tabloids want this policy retained and Rwanda policy reinstated for tens of billions. From where?

They’ve stymied their grandchildren’s prospects through selfishness so if their Brexit is so brilliant, it’s a small price to pay surely.

I very much doubt if Labour has thought about it in this way but I’m a Liberal Democrat and it’s about time some of the tough decisions stopped falling at the doors of working folk and the young.

Apologies by the way to those over 60 in 2016 who voted Remain or didn’t vote. Unfortunately, as we found out over the last few years, we tend to get punished for the actions of others whether we voted for it or not.

Edited 11 September, 2024 by Gloucester Saint

[Whitey Grandad]

Just now, Gloucester Saint said:

On the pensioners £300 winter fuel allowance, and that’s the maximum, some won’t even get that much, it’s not ideal but the vast majority of those who actually need it will still receive from what I’ve seen and plenty like our parents who really don’t need it as much. One of them is still moaning about it (Telegraph reader) having said in the past they didn’t need it and it should go to someone who did.

If we are talking intergenerational fairness, the u55s have had to eat nearly all of the shit sandwiches arising from Brexit thus far (with a blank where the supposed benefits are) so only fair the segment of the population who voted for it in the largest numbers take at least a small bit of the burden the economic shortfall of £40bn is causing. Because without Brexit, £22bn unaccounted for hiding migration accommodation spending by the previous government and an unfunded tax cut would have caused moderate spending cuts and freezes, but not the same impact. 

They’ve stymied their grandchildren’s prospects through selfishness so if their Brexit is so brilliant, it’s a small price to pay surely.

I very much doubt if Labour has thought about it in this way but I’m a Liberal Democrat and it’s about time some of the tough decisions stopped falling at the doors of working folk and the young.

I’m 75 and Brexit has been shit for me.

You say that many pensioners don’t need it but however you spin it it’s a cut in their pension of over 2%. Bearing in mind that it is not taxed it actually represents a higher cut than that. It’s equivalent to a reduction of £250 a year.

Robbing pensioners to give to train drivers. They don’t need it and we can actually do without them in many instances.

[Gloucester Saint]

18 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

I’m 75 and Brexit has been shit for me.

You say that many pensioners don’t need it but however you spin it it’s a cut in their pension of over 2%. Bearing in mind that it is not taxed it actually represents a higher cut than that. It’s equivalent to a reduction of £250 a year.

Robbing pensioners to give to train drivers. They don’t need it and we can actually do without them in many instances.

I know from your other posts that Brexit has been horrible for you, you didn’t vote for it, you’re a good poster, one of my favourites, and really I wish it wasn’t like that for you. I hope it gets better for us all. Plenty of over 60s didn’t vote for it too. FWIW, I’ve lost far more than that from Brexit and then Covid, thousands pa, as has my wife. Whilst costs have shot up. All relative I know to each household, family and circumstances but standards of living are miles below the 00s for most people.

On the train drivers and unions, I have no love for them either, in fact the unions advocated for Brexit sickeningly so I particularly loathe Lynch and Whelan but the country had to get moving again, the industrial action was clogging up the roads badly, medical appointments missed, contracts missed. It was awful to get anywhere of any distance and it’s not over until the new drivers are on stream. The doctors dispute was heading the same way. If Labour keeps feeding the unions, I’ll be angry too, one of the reasons I don’t vote for them is the unions.

The public services have to get back on a even keel, I think the public will do their bit but if in 18 months time we still can’t see GPs and the trade offs aren’t emerging, there will be wider unrest and it won’t just be ex-football yobs and kids next time.  

 

Edited 11 September, 2024 by Gloucester Saint

[egg]

16 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

On the pensioners £300 winter fuel allowance, and that’s the maximum, some won’t even get that much, it’s not ideal but the vast majority of those who actually need it will still receive from what I’ve seen and plenty like our parents who really don’t need it as much. One of them is still moaning about it (Telegraph reader) having said in the past they didn’t need it and it should go to someone who did.

If we are talking intergenerational fairness, the u55s have had to eat nearly all of the shit sandwiches arising from Brexit thus far (with a blank where the supposed benefits are) so only fair the segment of the population who voted for it in the largest numbers take at least a small bit of the burden the economic shortfall of £40bn is causing. Because without Brexit, £22bn unaccounted for hiding migration accommodation spending by the previous government and an unfunded tax cut would have caused moderate spending cuts and freezes, but not the same impact. And the new government has pledged to be responsible with the public finances, yet the tabloids want this policy retained and Rwanda policy reinstated for tens of billions. From where?

They’ve stymied their grandchildren’s prospects through selfishness so if their Brexit is so brilliant, it’s a small price to pay surely.

I very much doubt if Labour has thought about it in this way but I’m a Liberal Democrat and it’s about time some of the tough decisions stopped falling at the doors of working folk and the young.

Apologies by the way to those over 60 in 2016 who voted Remain or didn’t vote. Unfortunately, as we found out over the last few years, we tend to get punished for the actions of others whether we voted for it or not.

Good post. I had my only real political disagreement with my usually sensible  dad earlier today. He was saying Starmer must go cos he's taken his fuel payment away. I asked if he'd thought why. He then went into a rant that his bus pass and free prescriptions would go next. He couldn't explain where that idea came from, and despite him knowing that the Tories were financially negligent, and that Brexit has been a disaster, he couldn't bring himself to accept that. The annoying thing is that  he has absolutely no need for this unaffordable non means tested handout. 

And, yes, tough as it is, the pain can't all be absorbed by the well earning workforce. 

[whelk]

What’s all this got to do with Trump?

I think people are getting too emotive about pensioners. The triple lock ensures it rises nicely each year. Of course it will hurt many but many many don’t need it or deserve it and is just an undeserving welfare benefit perk.

[pingpong]

Not to ignore that around 800k pensioners who hadn't applied for due benefits in the past now have, it's actually approaching cost neutral and is a redistribution in favour of those who need it most...

[Gloucester Saint]

4 minutes ago, whelk said:

What’s all this got to do with Trump?

I think people are getting too emotive about pensioners. The triple lock ensures it rises nicely each year. Of course it will hurt many but many many don’t need it or deserve it and is just an undeserving welfare benefit perk.

Good point Whelk, let’s get back onto the OP.

Saw the full debate tonight, Harris nervous start but got into it and laid some ranting carrots which Trump couldn’t resist crunching on. It won’t move the dial for most of that country and the highly polarised support either side, but it could be a background factor in the swing states where every vote counts for the electoral college.

He’s in trouble and the campaign funds are almost dry for those swing states. Whereas Harris getting both the big donations and smaller individual ones at scale. It’ll be close still but I can see a similar result to 2020.

[Whitey Grandad]

1 hour ago, whelk said:

What’s all this got to do with Trump?

I think people are getting too emotive about pensioners. The triple lock ensures it rises nicely each year. Of course it will hurt many but many many don’t need it or deserve it and is just an undeserving welfare benefit perk.

Now hold on there cowboy.

It never used to be considered as a state benefit. We paid for our pensions and the amount we now receive depends on extra payments that may have been made years ago. And don’t believe the figures you see quoted about the amount of the current state pension. That only applies to new pensioners.

Nothing to do with Trump of course but it’s always interesting to compare the UK welfare system with other countries.

[Weston Super Saint]

15 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

Starmer kicked Corbyn out of the Labour Party. Explain to us please how, in your mind, that he is a raging Marxist when he has alienated many of the Far Left of the party already.

Did Starmer kick Corbyn out of the Labour Party because of his political beliefs or because of his antisemitic views and opinions that he shared publicly?

[egg]

2 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Did Starmer kick Corbyn out of the Labour Party because of his political beliefs or because of his antisemitic views and opinions that he shared publicly?

Surely there's an overlap there. 

Regardless, the point remains that Starmer ain't a raging Marxist, and that he dealt with Corbyn. 

[Guided Missile]

5 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Did Starmer kick Corbyn out of the Labour Party because of his political beliefs or because of his antisemitic views and opinions that he shared publicly?

The Labour Party is institutionally anti-semitic, as are their Union bosses. David Lammy, our Foreign Secretary demonstrated that a week ago, by suspending arms exports to Israel and Mick Lynch did at the TUC Conference yesterday. Someone should muzzle Lynch and tell him to butt out of international politics and stick to representing his overpaid, overweight and unskilled underground train drivers.

Edited 12 September, 2024 by Guided Missile
Accuracy

[Saint in Paradise]

[The Kraken]

9 minutes ago, Guided Missile said:

The Labour Party is institutionally anti-semitic, as are their Union bosses. David Lammy, our Foreign Secretary demonstrated that a week ago, by suspending arms exports to Israel and Mick Lynch did at the TUC Conference yesterday. Someone should muzzle that scouser and tell him to butt out of international politics and stick to representing his overpaid, overweight and unskilled train drivers.

The witterings of an imbecile.

Which scouser are you talking about?  Both the people mentioned in your post are from London.

Edited 12 September, 2024 by The Kraken

[badgerx16]

11 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

The witterings of an imbecile.

Which scouser are you talking about?  Both the people mentioned in your post are from London.

And Mick Lynch is not the head of the train drivers' union ASLEF, he is leader of the RMT union representing maintenance workers and signalmen.

[The Kraken]

Just now, badgerx16 said:

And Mick Lynch is not the head of the train drivers' union ASLEF, he is leader of the RMT union representing maintenance workers and signalmen.

I don't think factual accuracy is John's "thing".

[revolution saint]

24 minutes ago, Guided Missile said:

The Labour Party is institutionally anti-semitic, as are their Union bosses. David Lammy, our Foreign Secretary demonstrated that a week ago, by suspending arms exports to Israel and Mick Lynch did at the TUC Conference yesterday. Someone should muzzle that scouser and tell him to butt out of international politics and stick to representing his overpaid, overweight and unskilled train drivers.

AND THEY'RE EATING DOGS!

[Weston Super Saint]

Just now, revolution saint said:

AND THEY'RE EATING DOGS!

I wish they'd eat the fucking cats that shit in my back garden!

[sadoldgit]

20 minutes ago, Guided Missile said:

The Labour Party is institutionally anti-semitic, as are their Union bosses. David Lammy, our Foreign Secretary demonstrated that a week ago, by suspending arms exports to Israel and Mick Lynch did at the TUC Conference yesterday. Someone should muzzle that scouser and tell him to butt out of international politics and stick to representing his overpaid, overweight and unskilled train drivers.

If you had bothered to pay attention the reason that some arms (not all, some) have been suspended has absolutely nothing to do with anti-Semitism and everything to do with not wanting to be in breach of international law. The usual lazy recourse of those who have no other defence of the actions of Netanyahu and his government  - throw around accusations of anti-Semitism.

Train drivers not skilled? I would hope that those controlling tons of carriages full of people travelling at 125mph have a certain level of skill, wouldn’t you?

You spout the same nonsensical rubbish that Trump does. Little wonder you support him so slavishly.

[revolution saint]

9 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

I wish they'd eat the fucking cats that shit in my back garden!

Fucking Marxist cats that don't respect private property - that's the problem.

[whelk]

1 hour ago, The Kraken said:

The witterings of an imbecile.

Which scouser are you talking about?  Both the people mentioned in your post are from London.

Just imagine this fella tuning into the TUC conference? He’d need to be in restraints

[Lord Duckhunter]

22 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

I know a couple of people who could be described as Marxists.

Course you do…😂😂

[hypochondriac]

22 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

I know a couple of people who could be described as Marxists. Both of them hated Blair with a passion and think that Starmer is just a soft Tory. Judging by their Facebook posts before the election they would have been very happy for Labour to have lost and for there to be a change of leader back towards Corbynism. To define the current PM and Labour Party government as Marxist is beyond comprehension and I can only assume that GM is on a wind up.

As for the US, the Democratic Party have and always been centre right and the Republicans further right. You know the Marxist accusation is nonsense when Trump starts throwing at the Democrats. More desperation along with claims that the Haitians are eating pets.

Harris was spot on yesterday. Hold a mirror up to the narcissist and watch him unravel. She kept him on the back foot and she needs to keep him there. To his supporters he can do no wrong, but hopefully more and more swing voters are seeing him for what he is and will do the right thing come polling day.

Is one of those people you know am ex army officer? Or was that the other fellow? 

[sadoldgit]

3 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

Is one of those people you know am ex army officer? Or was that the other fellow? 

No it wasn’t, but thanks for your valuable contribution to the debate.

Don’t worry hypo, hopefully, when you grow up, you will meet a variety of different people too

Edited 12 September, 2024 by sadoldgit

[sadoldgit]

2 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Course you do…😂😂

Do you think that people with far left views lock themselves away and don’t know anybody else? You must move in strange circles where no one knows anybody else and nobody has a job.

Perhaps get out a bit more Duckie. There is more to life than eyeing up the 9 pinters in the Farage Arms or doing chores for the Snapdragon. Try talking to your neighbours. There is a whole world out there just waiting to be discovered.

It is no secret that those of the far left have no time for Starmer so I’m hardly moving in the CoT territory. 

You are an odd character. You believe that a complete stranger who you have never met is lying to you on a football forum yet you are willing to give your vote to people who are proven of telling bare faced lies. You need to sort your priorities out Duckie.
 

 

*For the record, they might not technically be Marxists, but they share very similar views and if you get upset by pinkos, they would probably give you nightmares.

Edited 12 September, 2024 by sadoldgit

[franniesTache]

23 hours ago, Guided Missile said:

"The traditional western world"? Where the fuck is that? Mate, you showed your arrogance and were wrong, so just apologise. As to your University Challenge questions, I'll cut to the chase. Starmer and Harris are basically Marxists. That's my opinion and I'm entitled to it. It is an opinion that will be proved right when they start operating the levers of power. It won't be pretty and anyone with a brain or a long experience of the disastrous effect on any State or Country a Socialist or Democrat (Basically a Marxist in sheeps' clothing)  has will know the fucking script. 

 

You are absolutely entitled to your opinion you're correct. In the same way i'm entitled to say my opinion is that France doesn't exist. But that doesn't make it factually correct, it just means i can hold an incorrect opinion.

As for saying something is "university challenge", it's not, it's an explanation of the fact. That you don't understand it doesn't mean it's wrong, it just means you don't understand it.

Starmer and Harris are far more in the Adam Smith tradition than Marxist, as anyone with any factual knowledge of political philosophy and economics would know.

You might not like their principles, that's absolutely fine, but saying they're Marxist is just wrong. I don't like Portsmouth, but that doesn't immediately mean i can say Portsmouth isn't part of England, because despite me wanting it to be true, it's unfortunately wrong (though if i ever get into power i'd make it true, cut the bridge to Portsea and install a hard border)

[Guided Missile]

17 minutes ago, franniesTache said:

Starmer and Harris are far more in the Adam Smith tradition than Marxist, as anyone with any factual knowledge of political philosophy and economics would know.

You might not like their principles, that's absolutely fine, but saying they're Marxist is just wrong. 

Starmer and Harris are far more in the Adam Smith tradition??? As in wage control via government/union interference (Starmer) and rent control (Harris)?

I'm assuming you got a Douglas in your PPE degree.

[The Kraken]

7 minutes ago, Guided Missile said:

Starmer and Harris are far more in the Adam Smith tradition??? As in wage control via government/union interference (Starmer) and rent control (Harris)?

I'm assuming you got a Douglas in your PPE degree.

Desmond.

Edit. I take it back, hadn't heard of a Douglas (or Thora, apparently).

 

Edited 12 September, 2024 by The Kraken

[a1ex2001]

1 hour ago, Guided Missile said:

Starmer and Harris are far more in the Adam Smith tradition??? As in wage control via government/union interference (Starmer) and rent control (Harris)?

I'm assuming you got a Douglas in your PPE degree.

Wage control how funny, unionised salary negotiations have been part of British life for over 100 years or so under all governments was it wage control when the Tories negotiated with the unions?

The way you post in this thread really is quite amusing even if it does strongly resemble the style of a troll, in you pop every now and then with some latest slightly controversial gotcha type post that you think backs up your world view.  Lots of people post counter arguments which you roundly ignore before posting some similar usually false/biased gotcha that you think reinforces your most recent point followed by more ignoring of the responses.

Give it a couple of days you will be back with some other right wing fallacy copy and pasted from some echo chamber of a news outlet, good luck to you if it makes you happy but no matter how many times you say it Harris and Starmer will never be Marxists, Farage will never be PM and Trump will never be a decent honest human being  

[Gloucester Saint]

3 hours ago, The Kraken said:

Desmond.

Edit. I take it back, hadn't heard of a Douglas (or Thora, apparently).

 

Douglas Hurd. Hadn’t heard of Thora but same principle.

[Lord Duckhunter]

5 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

Do you think that people with far left views lock themselves away and don’t know anybody else? You must move in strange circles where no one knows anybody else and nobody has a job.

Perhaps get out a bit more Duckie. There is more to life than eyeing up the 9 pinters in the Farage Arms or doing chores for the Snapdragon. Try talking to your neighbours. There is a whole world out there just waiting to be discovered.

I meet plenty of people, I just don’t go round discussing their politics. You’d be banned from any ale house I frequent, wandering around boring people like some demented Robert Peston. 
 

Funny how all your “friends” always contribute to your righteousness, that’s why people  call pony. 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

 

Marxist?

[The Kraken]

27 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

I meet plenty of people, I just don’t go round discussing their politics. You’d be banned from any ale house I frequent, wandering around boring people like some demented Robert Peston. 
 

Funny how all your “friends” always contribute to your righteousness, that’s why people  call pony. 

Well, that and the fact he’s been caught out bullshitting on countless occasions…

[The Kraken]

No surprise, mad old Donny has said he’s too scared to debate Kamala again. THERE WILL BE NO THIRD DEBATE. says the orange one. What a chicken.

[LVSaint]

1 hour ago, The Kraken said:

No surprise, mad old Donny has said he’s too scared to debate Kamala again. THERE WILL BE NO THIRD DEBATE. says the orange one. What a chicken.

Big fat stupid orange chicken, exactly. Over the last few months, his mentors have wanted him to shut up a bit more and deliver 'policies'. He can't be trusted to do that on the debate stage and it only gives Harris more positive exposure and makes him look a bit more of cnut. No surprise.

[badgerx16]

Donnie says that he will have 'large deportations' of the ( non ) pet eating Haitians in Springfield back to............

 

 

Venezuela.

Edited 14 September, 2024 by badgerx16

[pingpong]

28 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Donnie says that he will have 'large deportations' of the ( non ) pet eating Haitians in Springfield back to............

 

 

Venezuela.

So is he keeping the pet eating ones?

[spyinthesky]

On 12/09/2024 at 21:00, The Kraken said:

No surprise, mad old Donny has said he’s too scared to debate Kamala again. THERE WILL BE NO THIRD DEBATE. says the orange one. What a chicken.

No you dont understand.
Donnie won the recent debate hands down.
People tell him that some polls reckon he won 80/20 but others tell him it could even be 92/7 (his words on Fox News)

[whelk]

1 hour ago, badgerx16 said:

Donnie says that he will have 'large deportations' of the ( non ) pet eating Haitians in Springfield back to............

 

 

Venezuela.

Venezuelans gangs have completely taken over Colorado and displaced law enforcement.

seriously half that country has gone fucking mental the shit they believe. Frightening 

Edited 14 September, 2024 by whelk