sadoldgit Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 4 minutes ago, skintsaint said: All a bit weird... The cult of Donald 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 3 hours ago, farawaysaint said: Pelosi and Schiffer publicly pressuring Biden to step down. Absolute scenes. 2 hours ago, badgerx16 said: Plus Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries. They've been saying quietly behind the scenes it was time to quit and he's refused. He could have gone with dignity. Hope this doesnt get messy, would be terrible for everyone apart from Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Now add Obama to the list of Biden doubters.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 25 minutes ago, trousers said: Now add Obama to the list of Biden doubters.... I mean if you are not a doubter you must have lost it yourself. Will be medical grounds and will be out by the week. I know fck all of course 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 (edited) Emily Maitlis at the RNC. Some absolute fucking headcases she has been interviewing. Frightening how deluded they are, none more so than Giuliani. Felt like he needed to be sectioned Edited July 18 by whelk Maitlis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 30 minutes ago, whelk said: Emily Maitless is at the RNC. Some absolute fucking headcases she has been interviewing. Frightening how deluded they are, none more so than Giuliani. Felt like he needed to be sectioned Did you see her with Keri Lake, former TV host turned nutter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 I mean, he’s not wrong. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 16 minutes ago, buctootim said: Did you see her with Keri Lake, former TV host turned nutter? Yep - deranged halfwit. They all think we are living under Sharia law in the UK. I like Maitlis smirking/sneering at what she knows is top copy. Majorie Taylor mentalhead a few weeks back telling her to fuck off was funny too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 4 hours ago, skintsaint said: All a bit weird... But they'd all be caught dead wearing a mask during a pandemic! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 2 hours ago, whelk said: I like Maitlis smirking/sneering at what she knows is top copy. Majorie Taylor mentalhead a few weeks back telling her to fuck off was funny too. Ha yep, my favourite bits too. She sets the trap, they blunder in and are too unaware to realise how it looks to the sway voters they need. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloucester Saint Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 (edited) 4 hours ago, buctootim said: They've been saying quietly behind the scenes it was time to quit and he's refused. He could have gone with dignity. Hope this doesnt get messy, would be terrible for everyone apart from Trump. I think they would get some credit belatedly if they finally act with total ruthlessness, pull their finger out and announce their preferred candidates ahead of the convention with Biden not on them. It’s rare to not select a one-term sitting President but they aren’t obliged to either. They’ve tried to be respectful and polite and it hasn’t worked so the party leaders and major donors just need to tell him he won’t be selected at the convention. If he doesn’t like it, tough shit. When you confuse your own black, female VP with Donald Trump and then Ukraine President with Putin, I don’t give a fuck if the rest of the speech was coherent, there’s no way back from that. Biden is being a selfish prick and the Democrats need to switch into hard-headed mode and make a rational political decision. Give him 48 hours to step back from the race or ensure if when wont do so that Harris takes over as President next week due to Biden’s ‘illness’ (unspecified) until the election and ahead of selecting the candidate at the convention. Tough but fair. He won’t want to not finish his term so that is the right threat to use. Edited July 18 by Gloucester Saint 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said: They’ve tried to be respectful and polite and it hasn’t worked so the party leaders and major donors just need to tell him he won’t be selected at the convention. If he doesn’t like it, tough shit. I don't disagree at all - its time for him to go willingly or unwillingly. I just don't know how much support he still has within the party - and a public split and internal fratricide would be equally damaging. A smooth and agreed transition in the next week should be the goal if at all possible Edited July 18 by buctootim 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 R4 reporting that the mood in the Democratic Party has moved from it to when Biden steps down. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 (edited) Trump's short lived press secretary Anthony Scaramucci and Katty Kaye host a podcast - "The Rest is Politics American version." For a couple of weeks now they have been predicting a new Democratic candidate. Edited July 19 by Tamesaint 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 It was said recently that it would end for Biden when Obama and Clinton told him it was time to go. He himself said he would stand down on medical advice which gives him the option to bow out without losing face. Please do Joe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 2 minutes ago, sadoldgit said: It was said recently that it would end for Biden when Obama and Clinton told him it was time to go. He himself said he would stand down on medical advice which gives him the option to bow out without losing face. Please do Joe. He'll be gone before Monday. COVID as the reason, can't commit to the campaign as needed despite being the man for the job, or similar I'd imagine. Too late though imo, the Trump bandwagon ain't stopping now unfortunately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Who will become the Trump Brownnoser-in-Chief for the UK? https://www.politico.eu/article/boris-johnson-nigel-farage-donald-trump-liz-truss-britain-united-states-republican-national-conference/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Interesting interview last night Victoria Derbyshire - James Comey (former head of the FBI) When questioned about J D Vance's comments on Ukraine, Comey reckoned that Vance (and Trump) are likely to change their views when presented with updated Intelligence briefings on Russia as and when the Republicans win the election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 (edited) 2 hours ago, egg said: Too late though imo, the Trump bandwagon ain't stopping now unfortunately. I don't think that's a given. Biden and Trump's polling figures have been remarkably close for years - less than 2% until very recently and largely unaffected by events you would think would have a major, major impact - like convictions and shootings. What happens to Kennedy's 9-10% of the vote will be pivotal and a strong Democratic candidate should hoover up most of those. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/ Edited July 19 by buctootim 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 21 minutes ago, buctootim said: I don't think that's a given. Biden and Trump's polling figures have been remarkably close for years - less than 2% until very recently and largely unaffected by events you would think would have a major, major impact - like convictions and shootings. What happens to Kennedy's 9-10% of the vote will be pivotal and a strong Democratic candidate should hoover up most of those. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/ Trump has clearly had a recent bounce but polls showed previously that any Democrat other than Biden would win 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted July 19 Author Share Posted July 19 Bookies are never wrong: Quote US Presidential Election Odds US Election Winner Odds Implied Probability Donald Trump 1/3 75% Joe Biden 9/2 18.2% Kamala Harris 12/1 7.7% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 15 minutes ago, Guided Missile said: Bookies are never wrong They know most of the punters the punters are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 5 minutes ago, buctootim said: They know most of the punters the punters are Moronic statement from GM. They used to have huge accuracy with politics but that changed as had Clinton in2016 and remain in Brexit as massive favourites. Not exactly ‘never’ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 26 minutes ago, Guided Missile said: Bookies are never wrong: Go on GM. Bet on Trump with your profits from buying Trump Media shares... oh sorry. I forgot you lost money on those shares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 According to the fact checkers, Trump told 22 lies in his Republican nomination acceptance speech. So much for being a changed man. Here are some of them. https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/18/trump-rnc-fact-check God saved him so that he could carry on talking shit? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Did The Donald ever settle his Tax Bill or is it still too complicated to work out (to account for all the tax write offs from his failed businesses?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyNumber7 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 2 hours ago, sadoldgit said: According to the fact checkers, Trump told 22 lies in his Republican nomination acceptance speech. So much for being a changed man. Here are some of them. https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/18/trump-rnc-fact-check God saved him so that he could carry on talking shit? Brilliant. The first of those 'lies'... During his speech, Trump claimed that the country has had the worst inflation ever under the Biden administration. This claim is misleading. Biden was in office for record-high inflation in June 2022, when it stood at 9.1% – the highest since 1981. But inflation has also since come down in the past two years. So not a lie then. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 14 minutes ago, LuckyNumber7 said: Brilliant. The first of those 'lies'... During his speech, Trump claimed that the country has had the worst inflation ever under the Biden administration. This claim is misleading. Biden was in office for record-high inflation in June 2022, when it stood at 9.1% – the highest since 1981. But inflation has also since come down in the past two years. So not a lie then. Worst ever doesn’t exclude before 1981. He is full of shit and always will be 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 1 hour ago, LuckyNumber7 said: Brilliant. The first of those 'lies'... During his speech, Trump claimed that the country has had the worst inflation ever under the Biden administration. This claim is misleading. Biden was in office for record-high inflation in June 2022, when it stood at 9.1% – the highest since 1981. But inflation has also since come down in the past two years. So not a lie then. Are you going to go through all of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Has Donnie blamed Biden for Crowdstrike yet ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 (edited) 2 hours ago, LuckyNumber7 said: Brilliant. The first of those 'lies'... During his speech, Trump claimed that the country has had the worst inflation ever under the Biden administration. This claim is misleading. Biden was in office for record-high inflation in June 2022, when it stood at 9.1% – the highest since 1981. But inflation has also since come down in the past two years. So not a lie then. The US's highest ever recorded inflation rate was 20.49% in 1917, so a lie. Edited July 19 by badgerx16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picard Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 3 hours ago, badgerx16 said: Has Donnie blamed Biden for Crowdstrike yet ? In 2016 Crowdstrike investigated the DNC server leak blaming it on the Russians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 So he took a bullet for democracy but still doesn’t accept that he was democratically voted out last time? https://news.sky.com/video/donald-trump-says-he-took-a-bullet-for-democracy-in-campaign-rally-speech-13182624 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Just staggering how inept the security forces were. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-rally-shooter-drone-b2583103.html Apparently it was decided not to place marksmen on the roof that the shooter used because of health and safety concerns over the pitch. The pitch of the roof where the security guy was stationed who shot the shooter was steeper. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picard Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 They should recruit more cows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 On 19/07/2024 at 11:33, Guided Missile said: Bookies are never wrong: Kamala harris is splitting the bets, once it is more clear who the democrat candidate will be, those odds will narrow. Harris currently shorter odds than Biden, so there is already a lot of movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 (edited) https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1e5xpdzkd8o Biden out the running. Edited July 21 by skintsaint 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Biden out. Well I’m not sure at this stage it’ll change much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 9 minutes ago, Baird of the land said: Biden out. Well I’m not sure at this stage it’ll change much. It will change everything imo. People didnt want to vote for either Trump or Biden. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Great news indeed 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 18 minutes ago, buctootim said: It will change everything imo. People didnt want to vote for either Trump or Biden. I don’t see a great candidate in the wings to swing the momentum enough in swing states even if democrats agree one immediately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Just now, Baird of the land said: I don’t see a great candidate in the wings to swing the momentum enough in swing states even if democrats agree one immediately. It's not as if there is a great gulf to bridge - Trump only leads Biden by around 3%. Whoever it is simply needs to be moderate and communicate well and they'll win relatively easily imo. Harris is more popular than people give her credit for - its not totally unlike Starmer. People dont love him but thought he was better than the other choices. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 I’ve lumped on Kanye West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 5 minutes ago, whelk said: I’ve lumped on Kanye West Is this you? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 48 minutes ago, skintsaint said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1e5xpdzkd8o Biden out the running. Great news! It’s a shame that he didn’t pull out earlier but he has finally done the right thing. Hopefully, if it is Kamala Harris, she will fight a Starmer campaign and present as dull but solid and let the batshit craziness surrounding Trump do it’s work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloucester Saint Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 (edited) 1 hour ago, buctootim said: It will change everything imo. People didnt want to vote for either Trump or Biden. I agree, overdue, but had to happen. If it is Harris, that will be a trap for Trump’s base - they’ve been abusing Vance’s wife and kids already for being multiracial, so Harris will be catnip for the Klan, Proud Boys, domestic Neo Nazis and state militia groups which hang around Trump. Obama to be more visible I reckon which will dredge all of the ludicrous birther conspiracy theories up again, which was also always driven by race. It’ll also remind swing voters of Trump’s record on women’s rights, and the issue of his Supreme Court appointees dreadful rollback of Roe Vs Wade. It won’t affect the core base and evangelist fruit loops, but allied to his recent convictions and January 6 hangover, will be an issue with undecideds and importantly help the Democrats get their own base out, especially women and minorities. Edited July 21 by Gloucester Saint 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted July 21 Author Share Posted July 21 What can be unburdened by what has been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 14 minutes ago, Guided Missile said: What can be unburdened by what has been. Graham Taylor 1993? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Sad that an inevitable decision took so long, but better late than never. Hopefully the Democrats get their act together and either throw their support behind Harris or nominate another sharpish. The Trump campaign seems to have all sorts of momentum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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