Fan The Flames Posted 14 July, 2024 Posted 14 July, 2024 Trump publicly distances himself from Project 2025 and gets shot two days later.
CB Fry Posted 14 July, 2024 Posted 14 July, 2024 (edited) This changes the game a huge amount. I can't see how Biden can step aside now - and being that he doesn't want to he has a new 'don't let violence win' argument to stay in place. If there was a back room plan to replace him it's gone now. Basically Trump nailed on to win plus the whole civil war thing. Great days. Edited 14 July, 2024 by CB Fry 1
Stripey McStripe Shirt Posted 14 July, 2024 Posted 14 July, 2024 It's probably handed him the election on a plate. Can see there being more violence, bordering on civil war, in America because of it soon too. I hate to sound like a conspiracy theorist but something about it just doesn't quite seem right though from the limited pictures I've seen. I know the secret service are being blamed already but seems too much of a school boy error to just leave him exposed shouting "fight" for so long before being dragged to the car. Feels like it's either a staged photo op (probably a very successful one) or an inside job. Elon Musk is also using it as an opportunity to endorse Trump more than ever. My Twitter homepage is littered with posts from him and pro-Trump rhetoric, despite the fact I don't even follow him. 4 3
whelk Posted 14 July, 2024 Posted 14 July, 2024 10 minutes ago, Stripey McStripe Shirt said: It's probably handed him the election on a plate. Can see there being more violence, bordering on civil war, in America because of it soon too. I hate to sound like a conspiracy theorist but something about it just doesn't quite seem right though from the limited pictures I've seen. I know the secret service are being blamed already but seems too much of a school boy error to just leave him exposed shouting "fight" for so long before being dragged to the car. Feels like it's either a staged photo op (probably a very successful one) or an inside job. Elon Musk is also using it as an opportunity to endorse Trump more than ever. My Twitter homepage is littered with posts from him and pro-Trump rhetoric, despite the fact I don't even follow him. It’s obvious it was a Trump supporter. He will have been paid loads -Just nick his ear and your family will be handsomely rewarded. 2
egg Posted 14 July, 2024 Posted 14 July, 2024 Was the dead guy in the crowd behind Trump (ie took the bullet that shaved his ear)? In the video of him fist pumping, there were no signs of carnage behind him, just jubilant fans.
benjii Posted 14 July, 2024 Posted 14 July, 2024 (edited) 24 minutes ago, egg said: Was the dead guy in the crowd behind Trump (ie took the bullet that shaved his ear)? In the video of him fist pumping, there were no signs of carnage behind him, just jubilant fans. It sounded like there was another shot several seconds later, after Trump is hiding on the ground, and then there was a large scream. I'm guessing that might have been a shot that hit a spectator, but who knows. It also looked like the shooter was to the right of Trump and somehow managed to hit him in the right ear without nutting him. Mental! It's also very odd how Trump asks to wait while he gets his shoes, and then says, "wait, wait, wait" to the security staff once he's on stage and they hang around for him to do his salute. Cracking work by Beeb. https://x.com/SharpFootball/status/1812265909727396107?t=VjTos42fYISNBTMEAzS3TA&s=19 Edited 14 July, 2024 by benjii 1
Fan The Flames Posted 14 July, 2024 Posted 14 July, 2024 51 minutes ago, CB Fry said: This changes the game a huge amount. I can't see how Biden can step aside now - and being that he doesn't want to he has a new 'don't let violence win' argument to stay in place. If there was a back room plan to replace him it's gone now. Basically Trump nailed on to win plus the whole civil war thing. Great days. Sure Biden will use it as another reason to not stand down. But his internal opponents will use it as well as another reason why he shouldn't stand. Nothing changes in that respect imo. But they won't use it as much as Trump supporters, who will rinse this for all it's worth. 1
spyinthesky Posted 14 July, 2024 Posted 14 July, 2024 Undoubtedly those on the right will come up with all sorts of theories and blame for the shooting with very little thought about their support for the NRA and availability of guns/'right to bear arms' etc. 1
whelk Posted 14 July, 2024 Posted 14 July, 2024 22 minutes ago, benjii said: It sounded like there was another shot several seconds later, after Trump is hiding on the ground, and then there was a large scream. I'm guessing that might have been a shot that hit a spectator, but who knows. It also looked like the shooter was to the right of Trump and somehow managed to hit him in the right ear without nutting him. Mental! It's also very odd how Trump asks to wait while he gets his shoes, and then says, "wait, wait, wait" to the security staff once he's on stage and they hang around for him to do his salute. Cracking work by Beeb. https://x.com/SharpFootball/status/1812265909727396107?t=VjTos42fYISNBTMEAzS3TA&s=19 I was intrigued whether the hair was his own or it came with the cap? 1
Stripey McStripe Shirt Posted 14 July, 2024 Posted 14 July, 2024 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cljy6yz1j6gt?post=asset%3A33116aab-baa2-4626-ae05-9a87cba205db#post Cameraman forgot to tell Gary O'Donoghue that the shooting was over. Instead left him to do a piece still ducking for cover whilst everyone else around him gets on with things.
Sheaf Saint Posted 14 July, 2024 Posted 14 July, 2024 16 minutes ago, spyinthesky said: Undoubtedly those on the right will come up with all sorts of theories and blame for the shooting One Republican senator has already claimed that Joe Biden "gave the order". Sounds pretty libellous to me. 1
Fan The Flames Posted 14 July, 2024 Posted 14 July, 2024 https://nypost.com/2024/07/13/us-news/thomas-matthew-crooks-idd-as-gunman-who-shot-trump-during-pa-rally/ Look at the comments to see how fucked up the place is. 1
Fan The Flames Posted 14 July, 2024 Posted 14 July, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, whelk said: Anyone want to admit they wished he hadn’t missed? Deleted my post. Someone died, so probably banter taken too far. Edited 14 July, 2024 by Fan The Flames
egg Posted 14 July, 2024 Posted 14 July, 2024 11 minutes ago, Fan The Flames said: https://nypost.com/2024/07/13/us-news/thomas-matthew-crooks-idd-as-gunman-who-shot-trump-during-pa-rally/ Look at the comments to see how fucked up the place is. Yep. There's a huge "inside job" belief. Bitsy van der Kellen 3h ago The shooter was 20 years old. When Trump was elected, he was 13. When Trump left office, he was 17. How can this young man have so much hatred? He was a high school student during Trump's entire presidency. What group could have instilled such hatred into his young heart? Who benefited from Trump's death? Of course, the Democrats, the Department of Justice, the FBI, the CIA, NATO, China, Russia etc. Democrats have tried everything they can to get rid of Trump. Despite their best efforts, they never managed to put Trump in jail. One thing confuses me: who taught a 20-year-old guy to use serious weapons so masterfully? 1
aintforever Posted 14 July, 2024 Posted 14 July, 2024 That country is so fucked up, god knows what this means for the election. 1
egg Posted 14 July, 2024 Posted 14 July, 2024 1 minute ago, aintforever said: That country is so fucked up, god knows what this means for the election. They love a hero and a nutter. Pretty obvious where it's going. 2
rallyboy Posted 14 July, 2024 Posted 14 July, 2024 Indeed, US citizens do like their news relayed in simple Hollywood terms, every story needs an arc they can follow and appropriate music to remind people what they should be thinking. This one is simply, hero telling it like it is gets shot, but defies the bad guys and refuses to be silenced. Cue inspirational music and President Trump riding into the sunset while conspiracy theorists go mental in the background. This couldn't be a better script for Trump, it's perfect for his campaign. 1
Guided Missile Posted 14 July, 2024 Author Posted 14 July, 2024 Senility: Quote In a Politico article shared Monday, Biden reportedly told donors: “I have one job, and that’s to beat Donald Trump. I’m absolutely certain I’m the best person to be able to do that. So, we’re done talking about the debate, it’s time to put Trump in a bullseye.” 2
pingpong Posted 14 July, 2024 Posted 14 July, 2024 The shooter is 3yrs registered republican and voted republican in the last election, which is dampening the blame-biden crew. Narrative shift for some that it's a long wolf mental health issue now.
badgerx16 Posted 14 July, 2024 Posted 14 July, 2024 If only the people in the crowd had more guns it might not have happened.
Guided Missile Posted 14 July, 2024 Author Posted 14 July, 2024 5 minutes ago, pingpong said: The shooter is 3yrs registered republican and voted republican in the last election, which is dampening the blame-biden crew. Narrative shift for some that it's a long (sic) wolf mental health issue now. Voted Republican in the last election? Yeah, when he was 16 yrs old. 1 1
badgerx16 Posted 14 July, 2024 Posted 14 July, 2024 6 minutes ago, pingpong said: The shooter is 3yrs registered republican and voted republican in the last election, which is dampening the blame-biden crew. Narrative shift for some that it's a long wolf mental health issue now. He apparently had a 'Stop the Steal' patch on his shirt, and a neo-nazi eagle emblem. The irony of looking at Trump stood on the podium with people behind him holding placards saying 'Your fired'. 1
CB Fry Posted 14 July, 2024 Posted 14 July, 2024 1 minute ago, Guided Missile said: Voted Republican in the last election? Yeah, when he was 16 yrs old. There were mid term elections last November. 3
pingpong Posted 14 July, 2024 Posted 14 July, 2024 3 minutes ago, Guided Missile said: Voted Republican in the last election? Yeah, when he was 16 yrs old. Midterm 3
badgerx16 Posted 14 July, 2024 Posted 14 July, 2024 6 minutes ago, Guided Missile said: Voted Republican in the last election? Yeah, when he was 16 yrs old. Trump did make a big deal over vote rigging. 1
sadoldgit Posted 14 July, 2024 Posted 14 July, 2024 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Guided Missile said: Courage: Draft dodger Edited 14 July, 2024 by sadoldgit Changed text 1 1
egg Posted 14 July, 2024 Posted 14 July, 2024 I've just watched the footage again. I cannot fathom how nobody behind him took a bullet. The one that skimmed his ear had to go behind him.
Lighthouse Posted 14 July, 2024 Posted 14 July, 2024 4 minutes ago, egg said: I've just watched the footage again. I cannot fathom how nobody behind him took a bullet. The one that skimmed his ear had to go behind him. You couldn't pay me to stand behind a politician at one of these rallies for precisely this reason. 3
egg Posted 14 July, 2024 Posted 14 July, 2024 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: You couldn't pay me to stand behind a politician at one of these rallies for precisely this reason. Yep. You couldn't pay me to attend a Trump rally full stop. Edited 14 July, 2024 by egg 1
badgerx16 Posted 14 July, 2024 Posted 14 July, 2024 These two pictures on the BBC show the shot came from Trump's right.....
AlexLaw76 Posted 14 July, 2024 Posted 14 July, 2024 41 minutes ago, sadoldgit said: Draft dodger Horrific what happen, wasn't it 1
Lighthouse Posted 14 July, 2024 Posted 14 July, 2024 23 minutes ago, egg said: Yep. You couldn't pay me to attend a Trump rally full stop. It does make you wonder how important you need to be to get assassinated, rather than murdered. 1
sadoldgit Posted 14 July, 2024 Posted 14 July, 2024 2 hours ago, whelk said: Anyone want to admit they wished he hadn’t missed? Melania? 2
badgerx16 Posted 14 July, 2024 Posted 14 July, 2024 (edited) 9 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Horrific what happen, wasn't it Yes. It is horrific that a 20 year old can be so mentally screwed up that he wants to shoot somebody, and equally so that he finds it so easy to get access to an automatic rifle so he can act out his delusions. I wonder if this will change Trump's opinion on gun control. Edited 14 July, 2024 by badgerx16 3
AlexLaw76 Posted 14 July, 2024 Posted 14 July, 2024 Just now, badgerx16 said: Yes. It is horrific that a 20 year old can be so mentally screwed up that he wants to shoot somebody, and equally so that he finds it so easy to get access to an automatic rifle so he can act out his delusions. got to feel for the victims, including trump. I know so many of you are delusional with your hatred of him, but surely that can pause for just 1 day. Tragically, soggy is gutted the lad missed his shot...but good news, we won't get endless drivel from him on this thread today 3
Weston Super Saint Posted 14 July, 2024 Posted 14 July, 2024 56 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: These two pictures on the BBC show the shot came from Trump's right..... His head was turned to the right - I guess that's why it skimmed his ear, otherwise it could have been very different. Video from BBC Kind of makes a mockery of the 'it was a setup' bridgade. If it was a set up, then the US has just killed possibly the best marksman that ever lived to pull off that shot and just clip the ear.
badgerx16 Posted 14 July, 2024 Posted 14 July, 2024 13 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: His head was turned to the right - I guess that's why it skimmed his ear, otherwise it could have been very different. Video from BBC Kind of makes a mockery of the 'it was a setup' bridgade. If it was a set up, then the US has just killed possibly the best marksman that ever lived to pull off that shot and just clip the ear. But they have also killed the key witness, a la Lee Harvey Oswald. 1
Weston Super Saint Posted 14 July, 2024 Posted 14 July, 2024 1 minute ago, badgerx16 said: But they have also killed the key witness, a la Lee Harvey Oswald. Was never going to end any other way. Imagine if they tried to take him alive and he popped off more shots and killed more people. Would have been outrage.
Guided Missile Posted 14 July, 2024 Author Posted 14 July, 2024 2 hours ago, pingpong said: Midterm Good try: Quote Crooks was a registered Republican, the Associated Press reported. The election in November would have been the first time he had been old enough to vote in a presidential race.
sadoldgit Posted 14 July, 2024 Posted 14 July, 2024 1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said: got to feel for the victims, including trump. I know so many of you are delusional with your hatred of him, but surely that can pause for just 1 day. Tragically, soggy is gutted the lad missed his shot...but good news, we won't get endless drivel from him on this thread today Go find the post where I said I am “gutted the lad missed his shot” please.
Raging Bull Posted 14 July, 2024 Posted 14 July, 2024 (edited) Not good for the secret service by the looks of it https://x.com/johncardillo/status/1812301273145680116?s=46&t=hn-U2zuBXfVCGDsvNESPXA & https://x.com/nickdixoncomic/status/1812276519269736448?s=46&t=hn-U2zuBXfVCGDsvNESPXA Edited 14 July, 2024 by Raging Bull 1
Turkish Posted 14 July, 2024 Posted 14 July, 2024 (edited) 25 minutes ago, sadoldgit said: Go find the post where I said I am “gutted the lad missed his shot” please. It’s not what you’re saying it’s all the stuff you’re not saying. had this been someone else you’d be on your 20th boreathon post of the day already ranting against the far right. Why haven’t you condemned this attack yet? You’re never normally so quiet when it comes to politics Edited 14 July, 2024 by Turkish 2
whelk Posted 14 July, 2024 Posted 14 July, 2024 @east-stand-nic sucking up the main stream media narrative 1 1
east-stand-nic Posted 14 July, 2024 Posted 14 July, 2024 1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said: Horrific what happen, wasn't it A good point well made and yet again shows this awful poster for the hypocrite he is.
east-stand-nic Posted 14 July, 2024 Posted 14 July, 2024 3 minutes ago, whelk said: @east-stand-nic sucking up the main stream media narrative Quite incredible double standards as usual from your lefty loons.
Winnersaint Posted 14 July, 2024 Posted 14 July, 2024 First thought was that political violence can never be justified in a democracy. This goes without saying. Second thought was about US gun laws which just mystify me. 2
whelk Posted 14 July, 2024 Posted 14 July, 2024 2 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said: Quite incredible double standards as usual from your lefty loons. I’m just an independent thinker. I know for a fact JFK assassination was staged. It is what they do to convince the sheep
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