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  1. 1. Who would you vote for?

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Posted
6 minutes ago, Fan The Flames said:

Of course a billionaire can make his private money untraceable, this is a tiny 130k. Using Cohen, Trumps attorney, to pay SD wasn't disguising it very well.

I think the bottom line is he didn't want to pay with his own money. If he did the court case doesn't happen. At the worst he would have been embarrassed, and as you say that happen anyway.

Anyway it's all just theories, but I'm just pleased he got undone by his own arrogance.

A lot of these things are time sensitive. They find out about an upcoming article, and have to react to quash it. The method they used was a regular one used due to it's speed and separation.

Yes, it absolutely could have had a lot more layering to conceal it from personal accounts, but that takes time, and a bit more thought put into it. And does leave a trail. The tactic used is not an uncommon typology in those circles.

From what I've read Trump is like a walking black hole of ego. Every time he walks in a room he's looking to see what he can take from it. No perceived transgression from anyone can be ignored or left without ego based retribution.

So totally agree on your earlier "he's paranoid about being a chump." While his team might have been worried about the impact on his campaign (like the Access Hollywood reaction) you can bet he was just as focused on slamming shut any details on him personally. So, that went well 🙂

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Posted
7 hours ago, Fan The Flames said:

"One million men (armed) need to go to Washington and hang everyone. That's the only solution,"

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-guilty-riots-violence-b2554889.html

FBI needs to be tracing every one of those comments threatening jury members and coordinating some dawn raids to get these thugs out of circulation, charged and on the equivalent of remand for a while. Appeasement won’t work with Trump’s movement any more than it did in 1930s. 🇩🇪 

If you threaten juries in this country it’s a custodial sentence, the length depending on seriousness of the threats. 

It’s playing out as I thought, Trump’s base making lots of noise but it’s all the people who were going to vote for him anyway. The 10-15% swing state voters are the key, time will tell but polls consistently showed before the trial that if there was a conviction, voting for him went off the table. Usual morons like Boris and Piers Morgan brownnosing. 

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Posted
19 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

I see that the corrupt and politically motivated legal system in the US has found Hunter Biden guilty.

When will their baseless persecution of politicians, and their families, stop?!

Posted
1 hour ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

When will their baseless persecution of politicians, and their families, stop?!

When they stop having politically aligned and appointed judges and prosecutors.

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Posted
10 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

When they stop having politically aligned and appointed judges and prosecutors.

But taking that to the highest level, it would mean not being able to politically control events across the lifetimes of supreme judges, whether you were in power or not. Madness!

Posted (edited)
On 11/06/2024 at 08:23, badgerx16 said:

I see that the corrupt and politically motivated legal system in the US has found Hunter Biden guilty.

I have an American passport so can vote here in the USA. I have to hand it to the Republicans, they have succeeded, after his guilty verdict for the heinous crime of ticking the wrong box on a gun permit application, I definitely won't be voting for Hunter Biden.

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Posted (edited)
30 minutes ago, Guided Missile said:

Biden finally resigns and my man takes over shortly.

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Posted
1 minute ago, Fan The Flames said:

Biden fucking up may be the best thing to happen. Move him on, a new younger candidate would smash Trump.

At this stage? 

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Posted
16 minutes ago, Fan The Flames said:

Biden fucking up may be the best thing to happen. Move him on, a new younger candidate would smash Trump.

I'm not sure they would now. Snacks of panic and I don't think someone like gavin newsom would have the profile or recognition. Maybe Michelle Obama? They really fecked up not putting someone even vaguely competent on the ticket months ago. 

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It is mind-boggling how it has come to this, a convicted criminal vs a senile old man for the leader of the free world. It would be funny if there wasn't so much depending on it re: the war vs Russia. Having a pal of Putin in the White House is not going to be great for the current situation.

Surely Biden can pull out of health grounds, he is clearly not up to the job now, let alone in 4 years time. Just need someone to hide his meds for a day or two.

 

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Posted
17 minutes ago, egg said:

At this stage? 

 

1 minute ago, hypochondriac said:

I'm not sure they would now. Snacks of panic and I don't think someone like gavin newsom would have the profile or recognition. Maybe Michelle Obama? They really fecked up not putting someone even vaguely competent on the ticket months ago. 

I don't know if this is unprecedented, but it's certainly unusual. But it's obviously they need to stand Biden down. There will have been loads of manoeuvring behind the scenes over the last year, there will be candidates ready to take it on. 

Posted
4 minutes ago, aintforever said:

It is mind-boggling how it has come to this, a convicted criminal vs a senile old man for the leader of the free world. It would be funny if there wasn't so much depending on it re: the war vs Russia. Having a pal of Putin in the White House is not going to be great for the current situation.

Surely Biden can pull out of health grounds, he is clearly not up to the job now, let alone in 4 years time. Just need someone to hide his meds for a day or two.

 

Yes, so much better we have an enemy of his in power to oppose him. Jeez. So Trump deals with him well and keeps friendly relations and that is bad. Deranged Trump hatred syndrome.  You guessed it. I will not take up a debate with you as no one on this forum literally, is worth debating with as you are all so closed minded and blinkered.

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Posted
9 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I'm not sure they would now. Snacks of panic and I don't think someone like gavin newsom would have the profile or recognition. Maybe Michelle Obama? They really fecked up not putting someone even vaguely competent on the ticket months ago. 

Gavin Newsom?? You obviously haven't been to California lately. Any sane politician looking to become President will wait it out until Trump has finished his next term.

Posted
9 minutes ago, aintforever said:

It is mind-boggling how it has come to this, a convicted criminal vs a senile old man for the leader of the free world. It would be funny if there wasn't so much depending on it re: the war vs Russia. Having a pal of Putin in the White House is not going to be great for the current situation.

Surely Biden can pull out of health grounds, he is clearly not up to the job now, let alone in 4 years time. Just need someone to hide his meds for a day or two.

 

I don't know how them Dems couldn't see it. Most of us have probably had a grandparent that age and had to have a difficult conversation with them about when it's time to stop driving or when they need to be in a care home, for their own safety. I can't help but feel that someone should have been there to say, "okay Grandpa Joe, it's time to stop being president now and go and have a nap."

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Posted
8 minutes ago, Guided Missile said:

Gavin Newsom?? You obviously haven't been to California lately. Any sane politician looking to become President will wait it out until Trump has finished his next term.

I'm not suggesting him, American commentators were. 

Posted
34 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said:

Yes, so much better we have an enemy of his in power to oppose him. Jeez. So Trump deals with him well and keeps friendly relations and that is bad. Deranged Trump hatred syndrome.  You guessed it. I will not take up a debate with you as no one on this forum literally, is worth debating with as you are all so closed minded and blinkered.

Say's the most blinkered and closed mind on the forum, and that includes GM.

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Posted (edited)
49 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said:

Yes, so much better we have an enemy of his in power to oppose him. Jeez. So Trump deals with him well and keeps friendly relations and that is bad. Deranged Trump hatred syndrome.  You guessed it. I will not take up a debate with you as no one on this forum literally, is worth debating with as you are all so closed minded and blinkered.

How can I put this not wanting to hurt your feelings, if you think having that utter lunatic Trump will help the Ukraine situation because he is Putin`s friend then you are deranged and more of a lunatic the both Putin and Trump combined.

The world would be better for the president of the US to be a rocking horse rather than Trump

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Posted
1 hour ago, east-stand-nic said:

Yes, so much better we have an enemy of his in power to oppose him. Jeez. So Trump deals with him well and keeps friendly relations and that is bad. Deranged Trump hatred syndrome.  You guessed it. I will not take up a debate with you as no one on this forum literally, is worth debating with as you are all so closed minded and blinkered.

This account is surely a parody account. 

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, hypochondriac said:

I'm not sure they would now. Snacks of panic and I don't think someone like gavin newsom would have the profile or recognition. Maybe Michelle Obama? They really fecked up not putting someone even vaguely competent on the ticket months ago. 

Exactly this. If people are thinking Biden wouldnt make it through a full term they might still vote for him if the VP is strong. Kamala Harris isnt that popular. Ive felt for months the party machinery will step in, but yep doing it now may be too late. 

https://apnews.com/article/biden-replacement-democratic-ballot-dnc-rules-7aa836b0ae642a68eec86cc0bebd3772

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Amazing it has come till now for the panic about Biden to be an open thing. His performance at the debate was not much different any number of public appearances over the last few years.

monumentally shite from such a powerful nation

Posted
31 minutes ago, buctootim said:

Exactly this. If people are thinking Biden wouldnt make it through a full term they might still vote for him if the VP is strong. Kamala Harris isnt that popular. Ive felt for months the party machinery will step in, but yep doing it now may be too late. 

https://apnews.com/article/biden-replacement-democratic-ballot-dnc-rules-7aa836b0ae642a68eec86cc0bebd3772

If Trump wins the the primary reason is the Democrats failing to be even vaguely competent. They will only have themselves to blame. 

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Posted
51 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Amazing it has come till now for the panic about Biden to be an open thing. His performance at the debate was not much different any number of public appearances over the last few years.

monumentally shite from such a powerful nation

They are different things. The 'panic' now is that the Dems, because of the perception of Biden, are conceded too much to Trump in the election. That was Biden's one chance to shut that down, he failed.

Biden's performance in public over his term doesn't correlate with the performance of the Democrat administration, the figures are good, despite what the little tiktoc videos say.

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Posted
1 hour ago, buctootim said:

Exactly this. If people are thinking Biden wouldnt make it through a full term they might still vote for him if the VP is strong. Kamala Harris isnt that popular. Ive felt for months the party machinery will step in, but yep doing it now may be too late. 

https://apnews.com/article/biden-replacement-democratic-ballot-dnc-rules-7aa836b0ae642a68eec86cc0bebd3772

The only scenario where Biden isn't the candidate is if he pulls out. I can see that happening.

I suppose the only other scenario is if he dies.

Biden and his team were wrong not stepping away.

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said:

monumentally shite from such a powerful nation

 Thats basically what most people are saying on twitter from what I've seen - horrendous choice between two candidates who are both essentially unfit to be President. 

The Americans seem to love a dynasty - the Roosevelts, the Kennedys, the Bushes, Clintons and even Obamas or failing that a familiar face like Trump and Biden. It's not healthy.   

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Nikki Haley posted this earlier 
 
Mark my words….Biden will not be the Democrat nominee. Republicans, get your guard up!
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Posted
2 hours ago, Tamesaint said:

This account is surely a parody account. 

Thickest cunt here for sure and that has competition.  So supremely thick he probably does truly think he is enlightened. 

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Posted (edited)
9 minutes ago, Guided Missile said:

A golf match between Biden and Trump would be worth millions and I'd pay to watch, especially if it was for charity (The Alzheimer's Association?)

Half way round Biden would forget where he was and Trump, despite being well behind on the score cards, would declare himself the winner because the course was rigged against him.

 

You might also make a very sick joke about stroke play.

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Posted
11 minutes ago, Guided Missile said:

A golf match between Biden and Trump would be worth millions and I'd pay to watch, especially if it was for charity (The Alzheimer's Association?)

And right on schedule, here it is. 😂

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