Donald Trump Appreciation Thread

[Uncle Albert]

28 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Nigella Lawson has a recipe of the day on her website. Yesterday it was “Bitter Orange Tart”.

’nuff said

https://www.nigella.com/recipes/bitter-orange-tart

She just gets better and better😉

[Lighthouse]

38 minutes ago, Uncle Albert said:

She just gets better and better😉

I saw a programme once where she had a chicken stripped, tied up and rubbed all over in oil. I don’t think I’ve ever been so envious.

[Whitey Grandad]

56 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

I saw a programme once where she had a chicken stripped, tied up and rubbed all over in oil. I don’t think I’ve ever been so envious.

I’ve never taken you for a chicken fingerer 😧

[badgerx16]

[Picard]

32 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Are you posting that because you think it's true or as a joke? 

[badgerx16]

1 hour ago, Picard said:

Are you posting that because you think it's true or as a joke? 

I know it's fake, but it does tend toward the jocular. Surely you weren't taken in ?

Edited 21 January, 2021 by badgerx16

[Lord Duckhunter]

2 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

I know it's fake, but it does tend toward the jocular. 

It’s about as funny as Dawn French. 

[badgerx16]

52 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

It’s about as funny as Dawn French. 

Who is at least funnier than Michael McIntyre or Josh Widdicombe.

[hypochondriac]

1 minute ago, badgerx16 said:

Who is at least funnier than Michael McIntyre or Josh Widdicombe.

Is it a good thing that I have no idea who josh Widdecombe is? 

[badgerx16]

1 minute ago, hypochondriac said:

Is it a good thing that I have no idea who josh Widdecombe is? 

Trust me, yes.

[Winnersaint]

1 minute ago, hypochondriac said:

Is it a good thing that I have no idea who josh Widdecombe is? 

Sounds like he could be relayed to that fat racist trout called Anne

[The Cat]

On 21/01/2021 at 22:06, Winnersaint said:

Sounds like he could be relayed to that fat racist trout called Anne

I used to live next door to her. She was actually alright and really helped me with my politics A-Level despite our many disagreements on the subject.

[Lighthouse]

37 minutes ago, The Cat said:

I used to live next door to her. She was actually alright and really helped me with my politics A-Level despite our many disagreements on the subject.

You could have been that one guy who lead her into temptation.

[Ohio Saint]

9 hours ago, The Cat said:

I used to live next door to her. She was actually alright and really helped me with my politics A-Level despite our many disagreements on the subject.

oops! I quoted the wrong post

 

Edited 23 January, 2021 by Ohio Saint

[Ohio Saint]

On 21/01/2021 at 02:22, whelk said:

Those who complain about the NHS think yourselves lucky you don’t live in a country where this can happen.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/shane-patrick-boyle-died-after-starting-a-gofundme-campaign-for-insulin/

Dont know how Covid vaccines are being handled there. Presumably they don’t just want to give them away to the poor and uninsured?

Just over 2 years ago, I got up from my chair on my patio and promptly fell over. On getting up again, I realised that I had a stroke, and could not make it anywhere without the support of a wall. My wife was on the case immediately and went to call an ambulance. Straight away I thought, well that's a grand or more straight away and the hospital is only half a mile away. Drive me there but phone ahead........After that, during 2 weeks of attention in hospital, my thoughts were always about how to pay for the mountain of stuff that insurance does not cover even after the initial $5000  deductible was paid. I also had to cancel physical therapy after 1 week when I realised that was not covered....And yes, I'm still paying for my stroke.

Compare that to the heart attack I had in the UK 25 years ago? While nobody wants a heart attack, the aftermath was almost a pleasant experience in comparison. I was not a source of cash for the healthcare company and I felt genuine compassion from everyone who treated me from my GP to the emergency staff and on to the therapists. These days, I actually look back on that whole experience with an odd sort of fondness due solely to the level of care and understanding I received.......I look at that time this way now because I actually fully understand the difference between private and universal health care. I got to experience the difference between the two first hand in life threatening situations.

These days, if I hear someone say that universal healthcare is an unaffordable burden on taxpayers, I wonder about what the burden of not having it would be on our progress as human beings that have to live together in an ever-expanding community

 

[whelk]

On 23/01/2021 at 18:19, Ohio Saint said:

Just over 2 years ago, I got up from my chair on my patio and promptly fell over. On getting up again, I realised that I had a stroke, and could not make it anywhere without the support of a wall. My wife was on the case immediately and went to call an ambulance. Straight away I thought, well that's a grand or more straight away and the hospital is only half a mile away. Drive me there but phone ahead........After that, during 2 weeks of attention in hospital, my thoughts were always about how to pay for the mountain of stuff that insurance does not cover even after the initial $5000  deductible was paid. I also had to cancel physical therapy after 1 week when I realised that was not covered....And yes, I'm still paying for my stroke.

Compare that to the heart attack I had in the UK 25 years ago? While nobody wants a heart attack, the aftermath was almost a pleasant experience in comparison. I was not a source of cash for the healthcare company and I felt genuine compassion from everyone who treated me from my GP to the emergency staff and on to the therapists. These days, I actually look back on that whole experience with an odd sort of fondness due solely to the level of care and understanding I received.......I look at that time this way now because I actually fully understand the difference between private and universal health care. I got to experience the difference between the two first hand in life threatening situations.

These days, if I hear someone say that universal healthcare is an unaffordable burden on taxpayers, I wonder about what the burden of not having it would be on our progress as human beings that have to live together in an ever-expanding community

 

So many cliches about taking health for granted etc but huge plus that when it goes you haven’t got to worry about your savings.

NHS is superb. And stroke and a heart attack mate - have you been unlucky or lifestyle contributed?

[buctootim]

On 23/01/2021 at 18:19, Ohio Saint said:

These days, if I hear someone say that universal healthcare is an unaffordable burden on taxpayers, I wonder about what the burden of not having it would be on our progress as human beings that have to live together in an ever-expanding community

Almost uniquely the US healthcare system manages to combine inefficiency, with high cost and so so outcomes - 17.1% of GDP compared with 9.6% in the UK. So the idea that funding it through taxation is more unaffordable than via private insurance is a lie. Glad you're still with us.   

[buctootim]

10 hours ago, whelk said:

stroke and a heart attack mate - have you been unlucky or lifestyle contributed?

Supporting Saints can't have helped...

[badgerx16]

14 minutes ago, buctootim said:

Almost uniquely the US healthcare system manages to combine inefficiency, with high cost and so so outcomes - 17.1% of GDP compared with 9.6% in the UK. So the idea that funding it through taxation is more unaffordable than via private insurance is a lie. Glad you're still with us.   

Publicly funded health care doesn't generate the profits or dividends for share holders.

[buctootim]

8 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

Publicly funded health care doesn't generate the profits or dividends for share holders.

Exactly. Its not just that though - its also the huge bureaucratic paper storm that goes with a system that requires every procedure and test to be recorded, justified, billed and paid for. There is a massive cost of the hospital having to bill, the insurance company trying to wriggle out and the consequent ping pong between them, patient, employer and hospital about who pays for what, what is covered and what is covered but not justified. 

The sue culture doesn't help either. The average cost of medical malpractice insurance for an obstetrician in NYC is $150,000 and they can spend a third of the year in court.     

Edited 25 January, 2021 by buctootim

[Ohio Saint]

On 24/01/2021 at 18:06, whelk said:

 

NHS is superb. And stroke and a heart attack mate - have you been unlucky or lifestyle contributed?

Not the best lifestyle, but my dad had both too and at around the same ages.

[Sheaf Saint]

 

This reminds me of the time Gazza got sacked as manager of Rushden and Diamonds but refused to accept it and vowed to turn up at work the following Monday anyway.

[Fan The Flames]

The Guardian has a good piece about Trump being a KGB asset. Some might say they would say that wouldn't they. It certainly fits in with rumours swirling around. Anyhow I just hope its another little nail in his political coffin.

[Ohio Saint]

On 29/01/2021 at 08:30, Fan The Flames said:

The Guardian has a good piece about Trump being a KGB asset. Some might say they would say that wouldn't they. It certainly fits in with rumours swirling around. Anyhow I just hope its another little nail in his political coffin.

Trump a Russian asset? Of course, it's only conjecture, but given the amount of circumstantial evidence, I'm as fucking well positive as conjecture can compel me.

[View From The Top]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55876035

 

When your legal teams bails out perhaps you don't have a case.

Edited 31 January, 2021 by View From The Top

[CB Fry]

12 minutes ago, View From The Top said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55876035

 

When your legal teams bails out perhaps you don't have a case.

He doesn't need a legal case.

McConnell and the required number of Republicans will not support the impeachment so Trump will get off and can say he is completely exonerated and innocent. 

In celebration, the forum's village idiot will get his "special" sock out again.

He could have his legal team turn up to the Senate and just tell them to pull their trousers down and shit on the desk and walk out and the Senate still won't convict.

Edited 31 January, 2021 by CB Fry

[View From The Top]

5 hours ago, CB Fry said:

He doesn't need a legal case.

McConnell and the required number of Republicans will not support the impeachment so Trump will get off and can say he is completely exonerated and innocent. 

In celebration, the forum's village idiot will get his "special" sock out again.

He could have his legal team turn up to the Senate and just tell them to pull their trousers down and shit on the desk and walk out and the Senate still won't convict.

No doubt, but the key part is they quit over his plan to raise voter fraud as his defence.

 

Edited 31 January, 2021 by View From The Top

[Guided Missile]

Not Guilty...

[Raging Bull]

[Baird of the land]

Hopefully the Democrats stupid decision to try and impeach doesn’t end up haunting them.

[Turkish]

Acquitted. That’s going to upset a few of you.

[aintforever]

He could have gone round raping and murdering and he still wouldn’t have been impeached. All seems a bit pointless, I suppose at least it shows the republicans up for what they are.

[Turkish]

10 minutes ago, aintforever said:

He could have gone round raping and murdering and he still wouldn’t have been impeached. All seems a bit pointless, I suppose at least it shows the republicans up for what they are.

Right on cue, aintforvers claxon goes off.

[saint1977]

1 hour ago, Guided Missile said:

Not Guilty...

I’m quite relieved actually, Republicans could have re-grouped by 2024 and the mid-terms before that with a more intelligent and coherent leadership and cohesion. 
Now they’ve bottled it and the equivalent of Labour when they were continuing to select Corbyn as leader. In the Republicans’ case, that leaves Proud Boys, Q Anon and various other violent Neo Nazi thugs embedded in the heart of the GOP. So every time one of the far right stands for re-election from the Trump Nazi wing on a phoney law and order ticket, all the Democrats have to do is play the videos from Capitol Hill. Job done.

When a far right party votes to obliterate itself over four years, ripping itself apart, what’s not to like?

[CB Fry]

On 31/01/2021 at 10:29, CB Fry said:

He doesn't need a legal case.

McConnell and the required number of Republicans will not support the impeachment so Trump will get off and can say he is completely exonerated and innocent. 

In celebration, the forum's village idiot will get his "special" sock out again.

He could have his legal team turn up to the Senate and just tell them to pull their trousers down and shit on the desk and walk out and the Senate still won't convict.

Who could have possibly foreseen this outcome.

And, of course I was also correct about GM immediately wanking into a sock about it.

Sometimes, too easy.

Edited 13 February, 2021 by CB Fry

[View From The Top]

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

Acquitted. That’s going to upset a few of you.

There was no way 17 GOP were going to vote to convict.

The fact 7 did is pretty amazing in itself.

McConnell's speech afterwards, deary me.

[View From The Top]

1 hour ago, aintforever said:

He could have gone round raping and murdering and he still wouldn’t have been impeached. All seems a bit pointless, I suppose at least it shows the republicans up for what they are.

I believe that what the plan was. They new they wouldn't get 17 GOP to vote guilty.

Show the evidence to the world and then hold every GOP member who voted to acquit to account between now and their attempts at re-election.

[Lighthouse]

31 minutes ago, saint1977 said:

I’m quite relieved actually, Republicans could have re-grouped by 2024 and the mid-terms before that with a more intelligent and coherent leadership and cohesion. 
Now they’ve bottled it and the equivalent of Labour when they were continuing to select Corbyn as leader. In the Republicans’ case, that leaves Proud Boys, Q Anon and various other violent Neo Nazi thugs embedded in the heart of the GOP. So every time one of the far right stands for re-election from the Trump Nazi wing on a phoney law and order ticket, all the Democrats have to do is play the videos from Capitol Hill. Job done.

When a far right party votes to obliterate itself over four years, ripping itself apart, what’s not to like?

The fact that it’s just bad for democracy. In the same way that Corbyn basically let the Tories off scot-free at the last election, an insane and unelectable Republican candidate makes the next US election a foregone conclusion. 

[badgerx16]

2 hours ago, Guided Missile said:

Not Guilty...

 

1 hour ago, View From The Top said:

McConnell's speech afterwards, deary me.

"......the rioters were fed wild falsehoods by the most powerful man on Earth. Because he was angry he'd lost an election."

"Former President Trump's actions that preceded the riot were a disgraceful, disgraceful dereliction of duty,"

"There is no question, none, that President Trump is practically and morally responsible for provoking the events of the day. No question about it. The people who stormed this building believed that they were acting on the wishes and instructions of their President. And having that belief was a forseeable consequence of the growing crescendo of false statements, conspiracy theories, and reckless hyperbole which the defeated President kept shouting into the largest megaphone on planet Earth.
The issue is not only the President's intemporate language on January 6th, it is not just his endorsemenmt of remarks in which an associate urged "trial by combat". It was also the entire manufactured atmosphere of looming catastrophe, the increasingly wild myths about a 'reverse landslide' election that was somehow being stolen, some secret coup by our now President."
".....the Electoral College spoke. As I stood up and said clearly at that time, the Election was settled. Was over. But that just really opened a new chapter of even wilder, wilder, and more unfounded claims.
 The leader of the Free World cannot spend weeks thundering that shadowy forces are stealing our country and then feign surprise when people believe him and do reckless things.
 Now sadly many policians sometimes make overheated comments or use metaphors, we saw that, that unhinged listeners might take literally - but that was different. That's different from what we saw. This was an intensifying crescendo of conspiracy theories orchestrated by an outgoing President who seemed determied to either overturn the voters decision or else torch our institutions on the way out. The unconscionable behaviour did not end when the violence actually began. Whatever our ex-President claims he thought might happen that day, whatever reaction he says he meant to produce, by that afternoon we know he was watching the same live television as the rest of us.
 A mob was assaulting the Capitol in his name, these criminals were carrying his banners, hanging his flags, and screaming their loyalty to him. It was obvious that only President Trump could end this. He was the only one who could."

 

Mitch McConnell.

( Perhaps his name should be added to GM's other thread - "Hypocrite of the Year" ).

Edited 13 February, 2021 by badgerx16

[Lord Duckhunter]

2 hours ago, aintforever said:

He could have gone round raping and murdering and he still wouldn’t have been impeached. 

Do you really believe the pony you write? 

[Tamesaint]

15 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Do you really believe the pony you write? 

God help you if you do.

[Turkish]

[Turkish]

1 hour ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Do you really believe the pony you write? 

No. As he’s proven on numerous occasions before when asked for his opinion it’s basically been to cut and paste quotes or links from someone else’s opinion. Let’s not forget this is the guy who applauds all forms of anti racism from behind his keyboard but when faced to deal with personally doesn’t bother to do anything as it might be detrimental to his career. 

[buctootim]

I read a column a week or so which basically said ‘impeachment is a  political process. It’s clear that Trump will win and the Republicans will lose. The Democrats realise this. The Republicans don’t’. 

Edited 14 February, 2021 by buctootim
Super witty comment re typos

[jawillwill]

55 minutes ago, buctootim said:

I read a column a week or so which basically said ‘impeachment is a  political process. It’s clear that Trump will win and that the Trpublicans will lose. The Democrats rralisr this. The Republicans don’t. 

Where did you read that? I think they need to hire a proof-reader.

[whelk]

I didn’t really follow it with any vigour as clear pretty early on what the outcome was going to be as they all rowed back.

Little  pussy Republicans scared shitless

Although I see a Biden aide quit for ‘abhorrent’ language - the moral superiority of that party is worrying - they have witnessed what Trump has got away with for 4 years and straight back in with the anyone who isn’t a saint must go bs.

Glad I don’t live there.

[egg]

Inevitable outcome from a pointless show trial. Republicans were never going to find against Trump. It's always better to do nothing than to allow a 'guilty' person to be publicly exonerated. 

[Fan The Flames]

It was just a numbers game, the Democrats didn't have the numbers and the Republicans that may have swung behind it didn't have the numbers back home.

It's a shit system that can't reprimand Trump for his damaging post election behaviour.

The Dems knew the numbers, but they had to do it, Trumps behaviour easily passed the unimpeachable bar. I believe that the double downing of the Republicans and an invigorated Trump will do more damage to to the Republican party in the long term. At the moment the party belongs to the looney libertarians.

[Weston Super Saint]

7 hours ago, Turkish said:

No. As he’s proven on numerous occasions before when asked for his opinion it’s basically been to cut and paste quotes or links from someone else’s opinion. Let’s not forget this is the guy who applauds all forms of anti racism from behind his keyboard but when faced to deal with personally doesn’t bother to do anything as it might be detrimental to his career. 

Also the guy who "bottled it" when it came to casting a vote in the Brexit referendum.

[Baird of the land]

1 hour ago, Fan The Flames said:

It was just a numbers game, the Democrats didn't have the numbers and the Republicans that may have swung behind it didn't have the numbers back home.

It's a shit system that can't reprimand Trump for his damaging post election behaviour.

The Dems knew the numbers, but they had to do it, Trumps behaviour easily passed the unimpeachable bar. I believe that the double downing of the Republicans and an invigorated Trump will do more damage to to the Republican party in the long term. At the moment the party belongs to the looney libertarians.

I disagree, trump was done and gone as a loser. Instead the dems handed him a victory parade.