Donald Trump Appreciation Thread

[badgerx16]

Transcript of a voicemail message meant for newly elected republican Senator Tuberville from Rudi Giuliani, whilst the Senator was in lockdown at the Capitol during the riot. ( Rudi rang the phone of a different Senator by mistake );

"Sen. Tuberville? Or I should say Coach Tuberville. This is Rudy Giuliani, the President's lawyer," he said according to to the transcript.

"I'm calling you because I want to discuss with you how they're trying to rush this hearing and how we need you, our Republican friends, to try to just slow it down so we can get these legislatures to get more information to you," Giuliani said, referring to unfounded claims of voter fraud in the presidential election.

"I know they're reconvening at 8 tonight, but it ... the only strategy we can follow is to object to numerous states and raise issues so that we get ourselves into tomorrow -- ideally until the end of tomorrow."

 

This was a follow-up to a call Trump made to Tuberville a hour or so earlier, ( also during the lockdown ), again to the wrong phone. In that case the phone was passed to Tuberville, who spent 10 minutes talking with Trump before the call was stopped when Senators were moved to a more secure location.

 

So whilst the riot that he instigated was occurring, Trump was still attempting to find a way to thwart the due process.

 

[whelk]

Great feeling knowing he has been booted from Twitter. Got to feel for his aides tonight, his world is crumbling.

[CB Fry]

9 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

Transcript of a voicemail message meant for newly elected republican Senator Tuberville from Rudi Giuliani, whilst the Senator was in lockdown at the Capitol during the riot. ( Rudi rang the phone of a different Senator by mistake );

"Sen. Tuberville? Or I should say Coach Tuberville. This is Rudy Giuliani, the President's lawyer," he said according to to the transcript.

"I'm calling you because I want to discuss with you how they're trying to rush this hearing and how we need you, our Republican friends, to try to just slow it down so we can get these legislatures to get more information to you," Giuliani said, referring to unfounded claims of voter fraud in the presidential election.

"I know they're reconvening at 8 tonight, but it ... the only strategy we can follow is to object to numerous states and raise issues so that we get ourselves into tomorrow -- ideally until the end of tomorrow."

 

This was a follow-up to a call Trump made to Tuberville a hour or so earlier, ( also during the lockdown ), again to the wrong phone. In that case the phone was passed to Tuberville, who spent 10 minutes talking with Trump before the call was stopped when Senators were moved to a more secure location.

 

So whilst the riot that he instigated was occurring, Trump was still attempting to find a way to thwart the due process.

 

I read about this and I can only conclude that all of this iS eXacTly tHe sAmE aS miCHaEL hEStleTiNe dOinG aN aNTi-BrEXiT SpEecH

[Matthew Le God]

10 hours ago, whelk said:

Great feeling knowing he has been booted from Twitter. Got to feel for his aides tonight, his world is crumbling.

Why feel sorry for his aides? They choose to work for him knowing what he is like!

[whelk]

43 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Why feel sorry for his aides? They choose to work for him knowing what he is like!

More a term than actual emotion. Some are staying to just try and control the chaos I am sure. 

[sadoldgit]

18 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

A load of red neck halfwits trying to get into the capitol building is not an “attempted coup”, however “violent” they were. At no stage was there any danger of power being seized from the legitimate Government. 

Of course it was. If it they had been successful in their aim it would have been a coup. It really doesn’t matter if they were rednecks and how thick they were. They were trying to prevent a democratically elected president taking his post and keeping the present president in post. Even American citizens are calling it an attempted coup! What is it with you far right wingers that you have to try and play down everything that shows some of you as subversive thugs? What more do you need? An armed mob storming a government building trying to prevent the election of a president, just a bit of bantz?

[Shroppie]

19 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said:

What were all the 'armed thugs' below armed with?  Bad breath? Shit dress sense? Miserable sense of humor(sic)?

Some had baseball bats. Others smashed a fire extinguisher over a police officer's head and killed him. Will that do?

[badgerx16]

15 minutes ago, Shroppie said:

Some had baseball bats. Others smashed a fire extinguisher over a police officer's head and killed him. Will that do?

One was arrested leaving the site with 2 concealed hand guns.

[Tamesaint]

7 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

 

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/noose-hung-outside-capitol/

Gallows were also erected at the Capitol... probably not intended for Weston's "bad breath " or "shit dress sense" candidates.

 

[CB Fry]

50 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

One was arrested leaving the site with 2 concealed hand guns.

Multiple image of participants carrying bundles of plastic cable-ties, suggesting very clearly an intent to take prisoners/hostages. This linked back to actions planned by far right groups in Michigan.

I also believed Caroline Lucas and Nick Clegg planned similar atrocities during the Brexit protests. 

[badgerx16]

20 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

Multiple image of participants carrying bundles of plastic cable-ties, suggesting very clearly an intent to take prisoners/hostages. This linked back to actions planned by far right groups in Michigan.

I also believed Caroline Lucas and Nick Clegg planned similar atrocities during the Brexit protests. 

They never found out who planted the pipe bombs outside Leave.eu's offices.

[Lord Duckhunter]

5 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

Of course it was. If it they had been successful in their aim it would have been a coup. It really doesn’t matter if they were rednecks and how thick they were. 

Don’t be so ridiculous. A coup-sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government. Are you seriously trying to claim they were trying to seize power? Stop exaggerating, I’ve seen worse in Maidstone on a Sat night.  

[Jimmy_D]

3 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Don’t be so ridiculous. A coup-sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government. Are you seriously trying to claim they were trying to seize power? Stop exaggerating, I’ve seen worse in Maidstone on a Sat night.  

Considering at least some of them intended to hang people currently in charge, and people that had broken into the central chamber declared Trump the winner of the latest election, despite the result of that election, it definitely falls under the definition of attempted coup.

People on both sides have been seriously hurt and killed, trying to downplay it as no worse than a Saturday Night, because of some of the footage showing less violent parts of the conflict I’d assume, is quite frankly ridiculous.

How likely they were to ultimately succeed is irrelevant.

[moonraker]

2 hours ago, Jimmy_D said:

Considering at least some of them intended to hang people currently in charge, and people that had broken into the central chamber declared Trump the winner of the latest election, despite the result of that election, it definitely falls under the definition of attempted coup.

People on both sides have been seriously hurt and killed, trying to downplay it as no worse than a Saturday Night, because of some of the footage showing less violent parts of the conflict I’d assume, is quite frankly ridiculous.

How likely they were to ultimately succeed is irrelevant.

It’s not ridiculous it is pathetic and sick, Truckhunter has previous, don’t rattle the cage.

[aintforever]

On 08/01/2021 at 16:22, Weston Super Saint said:

What were all the 'armed thugs' below armed with?  Bad breath? Shit dress sense? Miserable sense of humor(sic)?

Apparently one of those who died was armed with a taser, can’t confirm if this report is accurate or not tho:

 

Violent Trump rioter shocks own testicles to death

One of the four dead rioters from January 6’s attack on the Capitol Building was Kevin Greeson, a rabid Trump supporter who wished death upon Nancy Pelosi and supported the Proud Boys.

He liked to pose with his many long firearms and state that he was willing to do violence to those who don’t sufficiently support Donald Trump.

Greeson invaded the Capitol Building and commenced looting. He attempted to remove a large painting of Thomas “Tip” O’Neill, speaker of the house in the 80s, but in reaching up to remove the painting, activated the taser in his pants pocket. This subjected his testicles to the full force of the electric blast, and with the switch continually pressed by the fold in his trousers, delivered many shocks there, one following another.

Even the heart of a great patriot such as Kevin Greeson could not withstand such an attack and he died of cardiac arrest, possibly with the painting of O’Neill draped over his lifeless form.

I think we can all agree: He will be missed.

[Tamesaint]

23 minutes ago, aintforever said:

Apparently one of those who died was armed with a taser, can’t confirm if this report is accurate or not tho:

 

Violent Trump rioter shocks own testicles to death

One of the four dead rioters from January 6’s attack on the Capitol Building was Kevin Greeson, a rabid Trump supporter who wished death upon Nancy Pelosi and supported the Proud Boys.

He liked to pose with his many long firearms and state that he was willing to do violence to those who don’t sufficiently support Donald Trump.

Greeson invaded the Capitol Building and commenced looting. He attempted to remove a large painting of Thomas “Tip” O’Neill, speaker of the house in the 80s, but in reaching up to remove the painting, activated the taser in his pants pocket. This subjected his testicles to the full force of the electric blast, and with the switch continually pressed by the fold in his trousers, delivered many shocks there, one following another.

Even the heart of a great patriot such as Kevin Greeson could not withstand such an attack and he died of cardiac arrest, possibly with the painting of O’Neill draped over his lifeless form.

I think we can all agree: He will be missed.

Don't  laugh. Our favourite poison pedlar will be on here on Sunday explaining how this bloke is a hero and was just partaking in a peaceful demonstration.  

[CB Fry]

To be honest the whole thing looks like a bit of innocent horseplay, not much more than you'd get outside a pub at closing time in a sleepy village.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/08/politics/us-capitol-riots-arrest-pelosi-desk/index.html

 

[Tamesaint]

39 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

To be honest the whole thing looks like a bit of innocent horseplay, not much more than you'd get outside a pub at closing time in a sleepy village.

I think the bloke who stood outside the House of Commons for a couple of years shouting "Stop Brexit" was planning something  similar.

[Weston Super Saint]

7 hours ago, aintforever said:

Apparently one of those who died was armed with a taser, can’t confirm if this report is accurate or not tho:

 

Violent Trump rioter shocks own testicles to death

One of the four dead rioters from January 6’s attack on the Capitol Building was Kevin Greeson, a rabid Trump supporter who wished death upon Nancy Pelosi and supported the Proud Boys.

He liked to pose with his many long firearms and state that he was willing to do violence to those who don’t sufficiently support Donald Trump.

Greeson invaded the Capitol Building and commenced looting. He attempted to remove a large painting of Thomas “Tip” O’Neill, speaker of the house in the 80s, but in reaching up to remove the painting, activated the taser in his pants pocket. This subjected his testicles to the full force of the electric blast, and with the switch continually pressed by the fold in his trousers, delivered many shocks there, one following another.

Even the heart of a great patriot such as Kevin Greeson could not withstand such an attack and he died of cardiac arrest, possibly with the painting of O’Neill draped over his lifeless form.

I think we can all agree: He will be missed.

Which one was he in the picture?

[Raging Bull]

#hereforthecrack

[buctootim]

1 hour ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Which one was he in the picture?

 

[badgerx16]

Amazon says it is removing Parler from it's web hosting service because of it's use by agitators, anarchists, and far-right Qanon shit stirrers.

Edited 10 January, 2021 by badgerx16

[benjii]

17 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Don’t be so ridiculous. A coup-sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government. Are you seriously trying to claim they were trying to seize power? Stop exaggerating, I’ve seen worse in Maidstone on a Sat night.  

A pathetic attempted coup attempted by socially inadequate, thick as mince, losers is still an attempted coup, and when it is backed by a President it's quite disingenuous to pretend otherwise.

Edited 10 January, 2021 by benjii

[Baird of the land]

The whole taser story seems fake news but that’s probably fitting for what a a gun toting trump supporter will be remembered by.

[buctootim]

47 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Amazon says it is removing Parler from it's web hosting service because of it's use by agitators, anarchists, and far-right Qanon shit stirrers.

I’d never heard of it until a couple of days ago and assumed it was some kind of small scale niche alt right thing. Turns out Ted Cruz had 4 million followers on there and Sean Hanritty of Fox 7 million 

[View From The Top]

9 minutes ago, buctootim said:

I’d never heard of it until a couple of days ago and assumed it was some kind of small scale niche alt right thing. Turns out Ted Cruz had 4 million followers on there and Sean Hanritty of Fox 7 million 

That and Gab have been the primary hangouts of the fuckwits for quite a while.

There was a mass influx to Parler last year due to "free speech" issues on Twitter when some paid up neo-Nazis had their accounts suspended.

Gab is hardcore anti-Semitic. 

[whelk]

Refreshing how the fucker can’t generate any headlines now.

Expect all the right wingers to get agitated about editorial decisions being made. Good on them all for taking action I say.

Apparently Twitter management got pelters from all huge amount of their staff on the morning of the day of suspension as to why they weren’t taking action. Good old liberals! 

Edited 10 January, 2021 by whelk

[Millbrook Saint]

The whole reason Parler was setup was because of Facebooks' and Twitters' policy of censorship.  Their reasoning being that everyone has the right to free speech, the trouble with that policy is that you can get some people saying some pretty abhorrent stuff.  Parler isn't social media for the far-right, it's social media for people who want to be able to say what they want, left or right.  Politics or not.  It's an apolitical platform.  Saying it's a far right platform is like saying Facebook and Twitter are far left platforms.

When Facebook and Twitter started, their whole thing was for people to talk to each other without fear of censorship.  Parler did this too and they are now finding out what happens if they do, just like the other 2 companies did.  It's a grand thought to allow open and free speech but it can be troublesome.

Whereas Facebook and Twitter are now in a loop they can't escape from, they claim they give people free speech, then block peoples accounts, and understandably so in some cases, these same people then claim they don't have free speech as they're having their opinions shutdown by a faceless corporation so they gravitate to a place they can speak freely, unfortunately the nutjobs are also there.  Blocking these accounts just feeds the narrative they're pushing that the left are trying to censor their opinions.  Saying that, I have no idea what should happen when you have a loon as president posting the crap he does post.

Look at before the election how social media worked to keep the stuff about Biden's son off the platforms, even though respected newspapers had evidence, I'm sure they wouldn't have clamped down so hard if it was Trump's son.  The problem Facebook and Twitter have is the staff are made up of mostly woke individuals with an inbuilt feeling of self righteousness about what should and shouldn't be published on the  platform, when these same staff are responsible for censoring and removing certain posts you end up in a tricky situation.  They seem to feel it's their job to decide what the public is allowed to read and write on the platform.

The best thing that can happen to any of these platforms is to keep it totally non political, anything with a political tone to it should be removed, it should be purely used as a social platform, no blm posts, no maga posts, no Trump posts, no Biden posts.  No right versus left posts. No look at Boris what a coont he is.  No look at Starmer the useless imbecile. It should just be kept to normal socialising.  Everyone knows that one way to start an argument at a dinner party is to start talking politics, social media needs to be seen as one massive dinner party where no one talks politics and maybe throw religion into that too.

[buctootim]

2 minutes ago, Millbrook Saint said:

The whole reason Parler was setup was because of Facebooks' and Twitters' policy of censorship.  Their reasoning being that everyone has the right to free speech, the trouble with that policy is that you can get some people saying some pretty abhorrent stuff.  Parler isn't social media for the far-right, it's social media for people who want to be able to say what they want, left or right.  Politics or not.  It's an apolitical platform.  Saying it's a far right platform is like saying Facebook and Twitter are far left platforms.

When Facebook and Twitter started, their whole thing was for people to talk to each other without fear of censorship.  Parler did this too and they are now finding out what happens if they do, just like the other 2 companies did.  It's a grand thought to allow open and free speech but it can be troublesome.

Whereas Facebook and Twitter are now in a loop they can't escape from, they claim they give people free speech, then block peoples accounts, and understandably so in some cases, these same people then claim they don't have free speech as they're having their opinions shutdown by a faceless corporation so they gravitate to a place they can speak freely, unfortunately the nutjobs are also there.  Blocking these accounts just feeds the narrative they're pushing that the left are trying to censor their opinions.  Saying that, I have no idea what should happen when you have a loon as president posting the crap he does post.

Look at before the election how social media worked to keep the stuff about Biden's son off the platforms, even though respected newspapers had evidence, I'm sure they wouldn't have clamped down so hard if it was Trump's son.  The problem Facebook and Twitter have is the staff are made up of mostly woke individuals with an inbuilt feeling of self righteousness about what should and shouldn't be published on the  platform, when these same staff are responsible for censoring and removing certain posts you end up in a tricky situation.  They seem to feel it's their job to decide what the public is allowed to read and write on the platform.

The best thing that can happen to any of these platforms is to keep it totally non political, anything with a political tone to it should be removed, it should be purely used as a social platform, no blm posts, no maga posts, no Trump posts, no Biden posts.  No right versus left posts. No look at Boris what a coont he is.  No look at Starmer the useless imbecile. It should just be kept to normal socialising.  Everyone knows that one way to start an argument at a dinner party is to start talking politics, social media needs to be seen as one massive dinner party where no one talks politics and maybe throw religion into that too.

The problem is that some people want to censor those who cheat lie and hate and another group want to silence those who speak the truth to those who cheat lie and hate. To some extent who is in what group depends not just on your views, but what kind of political or religious regime you're living under.

If you keep politics off a platform you'd have to also keep religion off and social issues  - after all education, culture, race, sexuality etc also have political dimensions. All that would left is the weather. 

I don't know what the definitive answer is, apart from euthanising the vile and the gullible - and who is going to judge who fits that description.... 

[farawaysaint]

9 minutes ago, Millbrook Saint said:

The whole reason Parler was setup was because of Facebooks' and Twitters' policy of censorship.  Their reasoning being that everyone has the right to free speech, the trouble with that policy is that you can get some people saying some pretty abhorrent stuff.  Parler isn't social media for the far-right, it's social media for people who want to be able to say what they want, left or right.  Politics or not.  It's an apolitical platform.  Saying it's a far right platform is like saying Facebook and Twitter are far left platforms.

When Facebook and Twitter started, their whole thing was for people to talk to each other without fear of censorship.  Parler did this too and they are now finding out what happens if they do, just like the other 2 companies did.  It's a grand thought to allow open and free speech but it can be troublesome.

Whereas Facebook and Twitter are now in a loop they can't escape from, they claim they give people free speech, then block peoples accounts, and understandably so in some cases, these same people then claim they don't have free speech as they're having their opinions shutdown by a faceless corporation so they gravitate to a place they can speak freely, unfortunately the nutjobs are also there.  Blocking these accounts just feeds the narrative they're pushing that the left are trying to censor their opinions.  Saying that, I have no idea what should happen when you have a loon as president posting the crap he does post.

Look at before the election how social media worked to keep the stuff about Biden's son off the platforms, even though respected newspapers had evidence, I'm sure they wouldn't have clamped down so hard if it was Trump's son.  The problem Facebook and Twitter have is the staff are made up of mostly woke individuals with an inbuilt feeling of self righteousness about what should and shouldn't be published on the  platform, when these same staff are responsible for censoring and removing certain posts you end up in a tricky situation.  They seem to feel it's their job to decide what the public is allowed to read and write on the platform.

The best thing that can happen to any of these platforms is to keep it totally non political, anything with a political tone to it should be removed, it should be purely used as a social platform, no blm posts, no maga posts, no Trump posts, no Biden posts.  No right versus left posts. No look at Boris what a coont he is.  No look at Starmer the useless imbecile. It should just be kept to normal socialising.  Everyone knows that one way to start an argument at a dinner party is to start talking politics, social media needs to be seen as one massive dinner party where no one talks politics and maybe throw religion into that too.

But saying no politics is in itself censorship?

The irony of Trump’s ban is that he was campaigning hard for the removal of section 230, the very section that allowed him and others to post whatever they felt like without fear of repercussion. Removing this protection would force all social media platforms to adjudicate each and every post or face criminal liability.

[Lighthouse]

2 hours ago, Baird of the land said:

The whole taser story seems fake news but that’s probably fitting for what a a gun toting trump supporter will be remembered by.

I thought the same about the onion/mace video and the fact that the woman was so obviously holding an onion and wiping it in her face, surely it couldn’t be real. Then again, there are Trump supporters who are genuinely that thick so, I dunno.

[Weston Super Saint]

53 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

They were clearly trying to stop the process of electing Joe Biden as President. I really don’t understand why an intelligent person would argue otherwise. There is something about you hard right wingers that thinks this is fine. It isn’t.

As for Maidstone on a Saturday night, I doubt if you have ever been there. If you had, you would know that the drunken meatheads dont give a shit about politics. I can also tell you that you don’t get 5 dead and people armed to the teeth with guns and Molotov cocktails. I guess for people like you, an armed mob trying to subvert democracy is just an every day occurrence and no big deal. It’s no surprise to see Trump ignore the fact that he is ultimately responsible for the death of 5 people, but when a frequent poster on a football forum plays down their deaths it is easy to see how that nutter gets so much support from the masses.

Carrying making lame jokes about Maidstone Duckie if it makes you feel better. To me is just makes you look like a twat.

Jesus Wept!  What overdramatic pony!

Yes, we're all aware that a bunch of morons entered the Capitol building - what they thought they were going to achieve by doing so is likely just a fantasy in their own minds.

But 'armed to the teeth with guns and molotov cocktails' is over egging the pudding considerably.  I've absolutely no doubt that in a country that has a fundamental right for its citizens to carry guns that there were one or two of the morons with concealed weapons, but from all the pictures and video footage available, can you find one single picture that shows people 'armed to the teeth'?

[whelk]

If I went into a pub where you lot were I reckon I could name 95% of you. SOG would be easiest as would have a beret and Che Guevara T shirt.

hypo a very short moustache 

Edited 10 January, 2021 by whelk

[Millbrook Saint]

27 minutes ago, buctootim said:

The problem is that some people want to censor those who cheat lie and hate and another group want to silence those who speak the truth to those who cheat lie and hate. To some extent who is in what group depends not just on your views, but what kind of political or religious regime you're living under.

If you keep politics off a platform you'd have to also keep religion off and social issues  - after all education, culture, race, sexuality etc also have political dimensions. All that would left is the weather. 

I don't know what the definitive answer is, apart from euthanising the vile and the gullible - and who is going to judge who fits that description.... 

And this is the problem with allowing these sort of things on a social network platform, I remember a conversation with someone on facebook who was liking posts about how evil the British government was for allowing refugees to cross the channel in dinghies, I tried to point out that surely it's the french government who should be held accountable for turning a blind eye, I got massacred and promptly removed myself from any further comments.

Another conversation I had in a group I belonged to about about racism, I tried to point out that I didn't think the pulling over of black people in London was all down to racism, explaining how, when I was in my 20's I was pulled over regularly due to my age and that surely where the local population is mostly black, then it stands to reason that it would be mostly black people being pulled over.  I was, once again screamed at, was piled on by multiple people accusing me of being racist, I tried to defend myself and got responses how they no longer feel the group was a safe place for them and they didn't feel safe.  I promptly left the group, fearing I'd end up losing my job, the bullies had won.

This to me highlights the danger of social media, how many other voices aren't heard because their opinions don't comply with what certain people say you should think, silencing people never works, it doesn't change their opinion, all it does is build resentment

 

[Matthew Le God]

31 minutes ago, whelk said:

hypo a very short moustache 

Like Cary Grant, Clark Gable & Errol Flynn?

Edited 10 January, 2021 by Matthew Le God

[buctootim]

57 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Jesus Wept!  What overdramatic pony!

Yes, we're all aware that a bunch of morons entered the Capitol building - what they thought they were going to achieve by doing so is likely just a fantasy in their own minds.

But 'armed to the teeth with guns and molotov cocktails' is over egging the pudding considerably.  I've absolutely no doubt that in a country that has a fundamental right for its citizens to carry guns that there were one or two of the morons with concealed weapons, but from all the pictures and video footage available, can you find one single picture that shows people 'armed to the teeth'?

Its clear what they wanted - to stop the certification process without which Biden couldnt assume the Presidency. Giuliani wanted a delay until the end of the nbext day. What they were planning is anyone's guess. 

[Tamesaint]

50 minutes ago, whelk said:

If I went into a pub where you lot were I reckon I could name 95% of you. SOG would be easiest as would have a beret and Che Guevara T shirt.

hypo a very short moustache 

Weston would be working and would be sweeping the floor. 😁

[Lord Duckhunter]

This is an attempted coup. 

“Bridges over the Bosphorus strait in Istanbul were blocked by troops late evening local time on Friday. Fighter jets and helicopters were seen flying over the Turkish capital, Ankara, and gunshots heard.

Soon after, Prime Minister Binali Yildirim announced that an attempt to overthrow the government was under way. 

A faction of the army then said, via a state broadcaster, that it had seized power to protect democracy from President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

A curfew, martial law and the preparation of a new constitution was announced. Mr Erdogan, who was on holiday in a seaside resort town, called on his supporters to take to the streets in protest and returned to Istanbul.

Over the course of a violent night, TV stations were raided by soldiers, explosions heard in Istanbul and Ankara, protesters shot at, the parliament and presidential buildings fired upon, a military helicopter shot down and the Turkish military chief taken hostage.

In the early hours of Saturday morning, groups of soldiers involved began to surrender. Troops abandoned their tanks with their hands up.

Security forces also took back key installations and bases, including the military headquarters. 

By Saturday evening, some of the same places that had seen such chaos the night before were filled with jubilant supporters of Mr Erdogan.”

 

This is Maidstone on a Sat night.

 

 

 

 

 

[Matthew Le God]

@Lord Duckhunter Although a feeble attempt at one and delusional, some of them did believe it was a coup...

 

[whelk]

Listen to Arnie’s speech. Good man

 

 

Edited 10 January, 2021 by whelk

[whelk]

1 hour ago, Tamesaint said:

Weston would be working and would be sweeping the floor. 😁

And punching the quiz machine as kept getting the answers wrong

[Weston Super Saint]

1 hour ago, buctootim said:

Its clear what they wanted - to stop the certification process without which Biden couldnt assume the Presidency. Giuliani wanted a delay until the end of the nbext day. What they were planning is anyone's guess. 

So you agree. A complete fantasy in their own minds.

[Lighthouse]

Just now, Weston Super Saint said:

So you agree. A complete fantasy in their own minds.

The final outcome might have been but their actions and intent were very real.

[buctootim]

6 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

So you agree. A complete fantasy in their own minds.

No. The intent was clearly to keep Trump as President. That is just as much a coup as tanks on the lawn.   

[Weston Super Saint]

1 minute ago, Lighthouse said:

The final outcome might have been but their actions and intent were very real.

Correct. They even managed to break a door. The one that was locked fooled them though, so they just stuck with going through the open ones.

Oh, and they built a gallows about half a mile away. However, the only materials they had were an old pallet, some string and some nails, so the chance of it surviving the hanging of a child's teddy looked pretty slim.

Still if that passes the stringent test for a coup, then so be it!

[badgerx16]

16 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

So you agree. A complete fantasy in their own minds.

Trump wanted to subvert the election result, many of his supporters in Congress supported him, claiming without any shred of evidence that the election was 'rigged' or 'stolen'. Trump held his rally and stoked up the crowd who then went to the Capitol intending, at the least, to intimidate the Legislature into doing Trump's bidding and overthrowing the EC vote, as Trump and Giuliani continued to do whilst the House was in lockdown. This is by definition insurrection: "an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government".

 Thankfully the Constitution was adhered to, VP Pence refused to succumb to Trump's exortations to exceed his lawful powers, and ultimately Trump and the protesters reduced the level of opposition inside the House as 4 of the 6 planned objections to State certifications were effectively withdrawn as a consequence of the invasion.

 Do you seriously think that the people trapped inside the building whilst armed guards stood at barricaded doors thought "It's not that serious - just a bunch of lads letting off a bit of steam. Just like Maidstone on a Saturday night".

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2 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Correct. They even managed to break a door. The one that was locked fooled them though, so they just stuck with going through the open ones.

Oh, and they built a gallows about half a mile away. However, the only materials they had were an old pallet, some string and some nails, so the chance of it surviving the hanging of a child's teddy looked pretty slim.

Still if that passes the stringent test for a coup, then so be it!

It was a sh*t coup but a coup nonetheless.

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31 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Correct. They even managed to break a door. The one that was locked fooled them though, so they just stuck with going through the open ones.

Oh, and they built a gallows about half a mile away. However, the only materials they had were an old pallet, some string and some nails, so the chance of it surviving the hanging of a child's teddy looked pretty slim.

Still if that passes the stringent test for a coup, then so be it!

Even right wing yanks are saying it was an attempted coup.

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Some of the stuff coming out of the States now regarding the Oath Keepers and other and other militia groups and their role in Wednesday is astonishing.

It really was an operation planned with military precision covered by the patsy Trumpers.

All in HD too.

 

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A 2nd officer dead.

Photos doing the rounds of rozzers on the deck being beaten with flag poles.

I'm wondering if the Blue Lives Matter and All Lives Matter malarkey was all bolloxs.

 

Edited 10 January, 2021 by View From The Top