badgerx16 Posted 7 January, 2021 Share Posted 7 January, 2021 5 minutes ago, Guided Missile said: I've just watched a new video of the shooting and although from a close range, it reinforces what I thought. She was unarmed, I didn't hear any warning and the guy was 3 metres away. Shocking and a total over reaction. So, you are a security officer, posted outside the last door protecting half of the Government, possibly the 'last line of defence', and a number of seemingly violent people, ( they are smashing through doors and windows, many are masked and wearing helmets, and for all you know are armed ), smash down the door in front of you and start to climb through. What do you do ? Offer them tea and crumpets ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 7 January, 2021 Share Posted 7 January, 2021 2 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: So, you are a security officer, posted outside the last door protecting half of the Government, possibly the 'last line of defence', and a number of seemingly violent people, ( they are smashing through doors and windows, many are masked and wearing helmets, and for all you know are armed ), smash down the door in front of you and start to climb through. What do you do ? Offer them tea and crumpets ? Why don't you just put the narcistic nonce on mute? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 7 January, 2021 Share Posted 7 January, 2021 Just now, View From The Top said: Why don't you just put the narcistic nonce on mute? He's a complete prick, a self confessed moron, and a stain on the honour and good name of King Edward's school. He deserves to be called out at every opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonraker Posted 7 January, 2021 Share Posted 7 January, 2021 36 minutes ago, Guided Missile said: I've just watched a new video of the shooting and although from a close range, it reinforces what I thought. She was unarmed, I didn't hear any warning and the guy was 3 metres away. Shocking and a total over reaction. Why are you surprised US law enforcers are well known for over reaction, it is only rarely it is white redneck female, that seems to be your issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 7 January, 2021 Share Posted 7 January, 2021 I think there is an interview with someone who was next to her directly after the fact. He explains that she didn’t listen to warnings and they tried to pull her away. 39 minutes ago, Guided Missile said: I've just watched a new video of the shooting and although from a close range, it reinforces what I thought. She was unarmed, I didn't hear any warning and the guy was 3 metres away. Shocking and a total over reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 7 January, 2021 Author Share Posted 7 January, 2021 1 minute ago, farawaysaint said: I think there is an interview with someone who was next to her directly after the fact. He explains that she didn’t listen to warnings and they tried to pull her away. My last word on the inept Capitol police is: Taser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 7 January, 2021 Author Share Posted 7 January, 2021 4 minutes ago, moonraker said: Why are you surprised US law enforcers are well known for over reaction, it is only rarely it is white redneck female, that seems to be your issue. Don't try and put fucking words in my mouth. My issue is that it was to an overreaction to anyone, black, white, male or female. It's just that you Liberals seem to think black males lives are more worthy of outrage than white female lives, particularly if they're right wing. So fuck off with the racism labels you are trying to place on me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 7 January, 2021 Share Posted 7 January, 2021 8 minutes ago, Guided Missile said: My last word on the inept Capitol police is: Taser I thought you were fucking off already showman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 7 January, 2021 Share Posted 7 January, 2021 31 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: He's a complete prick, a self confessed moron, and a stain on the honour and good name of King Edward's school. He deserves to be called out at every opportunity. We're all looking forward to a 2021 where GM is absolutely falling over himself to condemn police brutality and miscarriages of justice everywhere against defenceless and marginalised people of all walks of life. Because he's, like, sooo passionate about this topic now. Because he wouldn’t be weeping his heart out about this jolly awful injustice purely because his white supremacist sweethearts are the victims, now would he? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 7 January, 2021 Share Posted 7 January, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Guided Missile said: Don't try and put fucking words in my mouth. My issue is that it was to an overreaction to anyone, black, white, male or female. It's just that you Liberals seem to think black males lives are more worthy of outrage than white female lives, particularly if they're right wing. So fuck off with the racism labels you are trying to place on me. Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck. Bawling your eyes out because your white supremacist heartthrob and his army of red-neck proud boys got shat on. You've been revelling in it for four years and here we are. Edited 7 January, 2021 by CB Fry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 7 January, 2021 Share Posted 7 January, 2021 8 minutes ago, Guided Missile said: My issue is that it was to an overreaction ..... Like I said, he should have offerred them tea and crumpets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 7 January, 2021 Share Posted 7 January, 2021 2 hours ago, Tamesaint said: Is GM for real or is he just invented by the mods in an attempt to get posts on this forum? He's a piece of malware Steve can't seem to get rid of. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 7 January, 2021 Share Posted 7 January, 2021 He's always been in a fragile mental state. That's why the US has got into this mess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 7 January, 2021 Share Posted 7 January, 2021 Just don’t let him near the button! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 7 January, 2021 Share Posted 7 January, 2021 4 minutes ago, aintforever said: Just don’t let him near the button! There was something I heard on the radio last night where a political journalist said that when Richard Nixon had become too fond of the 'sauce', Al Haig and other senior officials drew up an alternative set of instructions for the issue of the nuclear codes, and the journo suspected that something similar has gone on with Donnie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonraker Posted 7 January, 2021 Share Posted 7 January, 2021 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Guided Missile said: Don't try and put fucking words in my mouth. My issue is that it was to an overreaction to anyone, black, white, male or female. It's just that you Liberals seem to think black males lives are more worthy of outrage than white female lives, particularly if they're right wing. So fuck off with the racism labels you are trying to place on me. All lives matter, the way an individual conducts themselves may sadly lead to tragic consequences. Simply she had no justification being where she was doing what she was doing. Redneck isn't racist any more than Nazi is, its a state of mind not an ethnicity or nationality. The irony when the hard men turn into victimised snowflakes. Edited 7 January, 2021 by moonraker 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LVSaint Posted 7 January, 2021 Share Posted 7 January, 2021 12 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: Susan Collins (3rd bottom) is the only one in that video who didn't do a 180 on their view of him. She has always maintained that he is a cunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 8 January, 2021 Share Posted 8 January, 2021 You see I'm totally against the trespass and the violence but then I read something like this and it makes me that tiny bit more supportive of violent disorder: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystic Force Posted 8 January, 2021 Share Posted 8 January, 2021 My concern right now is what we saw yesterday was like the failed Beer Hall Putsch in 1923, which will fester and embolden people in a few years to do something more. The way this went down makes me think of some of the way some police officers in Northern Ireland were involved in loyalist paramilitary groups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 8 January, 2021 Share Posted 8 January, 2021 1 hour ago, hypochondriac said: You see I'm totally against the trespass and the violence but then I read something like this and it makes me that tiny bit more supportive of violent disorder: Why are you now more supportive of violent disorder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 8 January, 2021 Share Posted 8 January, 2021 7 hours ago, Tamesaint said: Why are you now more supportive of violent disorder? Because moralising from giant corporations tha sell you sugary cans of muck is nauseating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 8 January, 2021 Share Posted 8 January, 2021 Will GM now condemn those involved in the trespass/protest/insurrection who caused the death of a Police officer on duty at the Capitol ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 8 January, 2021 Author Share Posted 8 January, 2021 14 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: Will GM now condemn those involved in the trespass/protest/insurrection who caused the death of a Police officer on duty at the Capitol ? The Police Officer Brian D. Sicknick died of a stroke, from what I heard. I would condemn those involved in the protest who caused the death of anyone. The armed standoff took place at the House front door at about 3 p.m. ET, and police officers had their guns drawn at anyone who was trying to breach it. As a result of the episode, US Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund is resigning. Good to see the person deemed responsible for the policing debacle and subsequent deaths has resigned. Don't let facts get in the way of your preconceptions, though. The question you've got to ask yourself, with the cameras and CCTV rolling, is why hasn't anyone been arrested in the death of the police officer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 8 January, 2021 Share Posted 8 January, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Guided Missile said: The Police Officer Brian D. Sicknick died of a stroke, from what I heard. I would condemn those involved in the protest who caused the death of anyone. The armed standoff took place at the House front door at about 3 p.m. ET, and police officers had their guns drawn at anyone who was trying to breach it. As a result of the episode, US Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund is resigning. Good to see the person deemed responsible for the policing debacle and subsequent deaths has resigned. Don't let facts get in the way of your preconceptions, though. The question you've got to ask yourself, with the cameras and CCTV rolling, is why hasn't anyone been arrested in the death of the police officer? Firstly, the Police are saying he died as a result of "injuries sustained during the protest", specifically a blood clot on the brain after a blow to the head. Secondly, I would think that all the CCTV etc is in the hands of the investigators, so those responsible will hopefully be charged in due course. Third, he is said to have been a Trump supporting military veteran, not that that is particularly relevant, but it seemed to be important to you when discussing the woman who was shot whilst enacting a violent criminal act. Edited 8 January, 2021 by badgerx16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 8 January, 2021 Share Posted 8 January, 2021 6 minutes ago, Guided Missile said: The Police Officer Brian D. Sicknick died of a stroke, from what I heard. I would condemn those involved in the protest who caused the death of anyone. The armed standoff took place at the House front door at about 3 p.m. ET, and police officers had their guns drawn at anyone who was trying to breach it. As a result of the episode, US Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund is resigning. Good to see the person deemed responsible for the policing debacle and subsequent deaths has resigned. Don't let facts get in the way of your preconceptions, though. The question you've got to ask yourself, with the cameras and CCTV rolling, is why hasn't anyone been arrested in the death of the police officer? I know it's the Sun, but they claim he was hit in the head with a fire extinguisher, then collapsed at the police station later on.... https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13683669/us-capitol-police-officer-brian-sicknick-dies-riot/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 8 January, 2021 Share Posted 8 January, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: I know it's the Sun, but they claim he was hit in the head with a fire extinguisher, then collapsed at the police station later on.... https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13683669/us-capitol-police-officer-brian-sicknick-dies-riot/ That he suffered a blow to the head is widely reported across the spectrum of media outlets, both right and left, tabloid and broadsheet. I'm not sure where the stroke story comes from, other than it being induced by his being hit heavily. Such are the facts that GM seems so keen on. Edited 8 January, 2021 by badgerx16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 8 January, 2021 Author Share Posted 8 January, 2021 30 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: I know it's the Sun, but they claim he was hit in the head with a fire extinguisher, then collapsed at the police station later on.... https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13683669/us-capitol-police-officer-brian-sicknick-dies-riot/ Than I condemn the person that hit him on the head with a fire extinguisher. He/she should be arrested and charged. The police chief was ultimately responsible, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 8 January, 2021 Author Share Posted 8 January, 2021 Mind you, I thought the protestors were armed. I didn't think that meant armed with fire extinguishers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 8 January, 2021 Author Share Posted 8 January, 2021 Quote Nexstar Media Group, which owns several local news stations, reported he was struck in the head with a fire extinguisher and suffered a stroke. Sicknick, 42, was a New Jersey native. Brian Sicknick was a Trump-supporting U.S. Capitol Police officer and military veteran who has died of injuries suffered during a pro-Trump riot on January 6, 2021, at the Capitol building, authorities say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 8 January, 2021 Share Posted 8 January, 2021 13 minutes ago, Guided Missile said: Brian Sicknick was a Trump-supporting U.S. Capitol Police officer and military veteran who has died of injuries suffered during a pro-Trump riot on January 6, 2021, at the Capitol building, authorities say. Oh, do keep up..... 51 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: Firstly, the Police are saying he died as a result of "injuries sustained during the protest", specifically a blood clot on the brain after a blow to the head...........Third, he is said to have been a Trump supporting military veteran, .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 8 January, 2021 Share Posted 8 January, 2021 Is the narcistic nonce still whining that his redneck trumper wank fantasy got wasted? I find it most amusing that one of the fuckwits tassered himself to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 8 January, 2021 Share Posted 8 January, 2021 9 hours ago, Tamesaint said: Why are you now more supportive of violent disorder? Because hypo had always had far right sympathies and that is their modus operandi. You won’t find him slagging off those responsible for inciting right wing fuelled riots yet to him, “socialism is dangerous”. It wasnt that long ago that he was posting on here asking anyone if they thought Trump had done anything good during his single term as President. Trump now has blood on his hands but hypo would rather have a dig at those calling out his attempted coup than the man himself. It isn’t socialism that is dangerous, it is enablers like hypo who let people like Trump get away with his shit. We can through in GM for good measure. 5 people dead so far all because of one man’s vanity. You Trump supporters must be very proud of your man today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 8 January, 2021 Share Posted 8 January, 2021 5 minutes ago, sadoldgit said: Because hypo had always had far right sympathies and that is their modus operandi. You won’t find him slagging off those responsible for inciting right wing fuelled riots yet to him, “socialism is dangerous”. It wasnt that long ago that he was posting on here asking anyone if they thought Trump had done anything good during his single term as President. Trump now has blood on his hands but hypo would rather have a dig at those calling out his attempted coup than the man himself. It isn’t socialism that is dangerous, it is enablers like hypo who let people like Trump get away with his shit. We can through in GM for good measure. 5 people dead so far all because of one man’s vanity. You Trump supporters must be very proud of your man today. I found his original comment and his subsequent response to be very strange to say the least. Ah well... it takes all sorts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 8 January, 2021 Share Posted 8 January, 2021 I notice that the peddlar of poisons, in all the guff that he has posted on here in the last couple of days , has refused to clarify whether he thinks that Trump was responsible for the attack on the Capitol. Originally he said that "some" responsibility was Trump's but he has not since clarified how much or who else was to blame. Maybe the question is too hard for someone who flunked his exams and ended up at Pompey Poly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 8 January, 2021 Share Posted 8 January, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, sadoldgit said: Because hypo had always had far right sympathies and that is their modus operandi. You won’t find him slagging off those responsible for inciting right wing fuelled riots yet to him, “socialism is dangerous”. It wasnt that long ago that he was posting on here asking anyone if they thought Trump had done anything good during his single term as President. Trump now has blood on his hands but hypo would rather have a dig at those calling out his attempted coup than the man himself. It isn’t socialism that is dangerous, it is enablers like hypo who let people like Trump get away with his shit. We can through in GM for good measure. 5 people dead so far all because of one man’s vanity. You Trump supporters must be very proud of your man today. You were supporting violent disorder last year. People in glass houses. Edited 8 January, 2021 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 8 January, 2021 Share Posted 8 January, 2021 49 minutes ago, View From The Top said: Is the narcistic nonce still whining that his redneck trumper wank fantasy got wasted? I find it most amusing that one of the fuckwits tassered himself to death. Well, yesterday GM was arguing that tasers should have been used instead of guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 8 January, 2021 Share Posted 8 January, 2021 2 hours ago, Guided Missile said: Brian Sicknick was a Trump-supporting U.S. Capitol Police officer and military veteran who has died of injuries suffered during a pro-Trump riot on January 6, 2021, at the Capitol building, authorities say. Are his political leanings relevant to you? This would have been Antifa surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 8 January, 2021 Share Posted 8 January, 2021 1 hour ago, Turkish said: You were supporting violent disorder last year. People in glass houses. Oh, no he wasn't! There was absolutely no violence involved when soggy was supporting it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 8 January, 2021 Share Posted 8 January, 2021 These guys are a great listen and v good analysis . Some are Obama’s ex staff I’ve been regular subscriber for few years. I expect far too ‘partisan’ for hypo https://crooked.com/podcast/two-americas/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 8 January, 2021 Share Posted 8 January, 2021 1 hour ago, badgerx16 said: Well, yesterday GM was arguing that tasers should have been used instead of guns. Only on his forces girlfriend. Guns should be used for the black drug men Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 8 January, 2021 Share Posted 8 January, 2021 10 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: Oh, no he wasn't! There was absolutely no violence involved when soggy was supporting it! Yes there was violence and no I didn’t support violence. What there wasn’t was an attempted coup which left 5 people dead. But you carry on making your lame comparisons if it makes you feel better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 8 January, 2021 Share Posted 8 January, 2021 42 minutes ago, sadoldgit said: Yes there was violence and no I didn’t support violence. What there wasn’t was an attempted coup which left 5 people dead. But you carry on making your lame comparisons if it makes you feel better. “Attempted coup” . Lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 8 January, 2021 Share Posted 8 January, 2021 13 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: Oh, no he wasn't! There was absolutely no violence involved when soggy was supporting it! It was f*cking hilarious the way he first denied anything was happening (because he hadn't seen it reported in the Guardian!), then he said it was minimal, then put it down to right wing infiltration of the protests, then when all else failed we should stop worrying about the violence and vandalism and think about the great cause. Now got the neck to accuse hypo of supporting violence because that's what right wing people do. You cant make this sort of hypocritical behaviour up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 8 January, 2021 Share Posted 8 January, 2021 45 minutes ago, sadoldgit said: Yes there was violence and no I didn’t support violence. What there wasn’t was an attempted coup which left 5 people dead. But you carry on making your lame comparisons if it makes you feel better. Yes you did you liar!! You said, once you could finally bring yourself to admit there was violence, that we should stop concentrating on that and focus on the cause. You're a liar, a hypocrite and coward. Calling you and your bullsh1t out mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 8 January, 2021 Share Posted 8 January, 2021 11 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: “Attempted coup” . Lol How else would you describe a group of armed thugs smashing their way into the legislature intent on preventing the official certification of a democratic election? It might have been a pathetic and doomed to fail attempt at a coup, but it was an attempt nonetheless. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystic Force Posted 8 January, 2021 Share Posted 8 January, 2021 So in the US they have felony murder laws, that means you can be held responsible for murder if you are a committing a crime and in the course of this someone is killed, normally this is used in things like armed robbery, where the getaway driver gets convicted of murder while remaining outside the store. This has included when people defending themselves or the police have shot people perpetrating the crime and the other group members get charged with their death. So what we have is 10,000 people commiting a crime where there was a death, so that would make them all murderers by laws here, as long as they are not police officers of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 8 January, 2021 Share Posted 8 January, 2021 27 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: How else would you describe a group of armed thugs smashing their way into the legislature intent on preventing the official certification of a democratic election? It might have been a pathetic and doomed to fail attempt at a coup, but it was an attempt nonetheless. "Coup" ? Ducky sees worse than this every Friday night in his boozer.😁😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 8 January, 2021 Share Posted 8 January, 2021 33 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: How else would you describe a group of armed thugs smashing their way into the legislature intent on preventing the official certification of a democratic election? It might have been a pathetic and doomed to fail attempt at a coup, but it was an attempt nonetheless. I thought the general term we use is people letting off steam? How would you describe 4 years of trying to get a vote overturned that people didn't like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 8 January, 2021 Share Posted 8 January, 2021 Bloody Hell. As well as some of them being armed with guns and explosives, they had set up a gallows on Capitol grounds. Some of the rioters inside were carrying zip-tie cuffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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