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Posted
2 minutes ago, View From The Top said:

It's to do with the traditional pause that takes place between presidencies, a tradition going back 150 years. 

Trump has decided to ignore this and push ahead with federal executions.

He's just pushing on to get the record for the most number of executions by a President.  Presumably he wants the record as he feels people might forget about him otherwise.

I'd also caveat my lighthearted glibness by the fact that the US Supreme Court has to sanction any executions so it's not just Trump being 'spiteful'...

Posted
6 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

He's conceded at last. 

Not quite John McCain levels of dignity and humility but you can't have everything.

 

I don't think that's a concession, it's an appeal to the Supreme Court to find in favour of the Texas lawsuit because Joe Biden's son is subject to a tax investigation.

Posted
2 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

I don't think that's a concession, it's an appeal to the Supreme Court to find in favour of the Texas lawsuit because Joe Biden's son is subject to a tax investigation.

He's accepted the notion of a Biden Administration.

So really mission accomplished for all those involved in vote dumping, fiddling the machines and paying off the officials involved.

Great result lads. I never thought they'd get away with it but fair play you've smashed it. 👍👍👍👍👍👍

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Posted
14 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

He's accepted the notion of a Biden Administration.

So really mission accomplished for all those involved in vote dumping, fiddling the machines and paying off the officials involved.

Great result lads. I never thought they'd get away with it but fair play you've smashed it. 👍👍👍👍👍👍

I am not so sure. They did well with the Presidency but they could have done a better job with the Senate and House elections. 

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Posted
4 hours ago, CB Fry said:

He's accepted the notion of a Biden Administration.

So really mission accomplished for all those involved in vote dumping, fiddling the machines and paying off the officials involved.

Great result lads. I never thought they'd get away with it but fair play you've smashed it. 👍👍👍👍👍👍

Scally will expose it soon. Just needs to get us all off MSM.

Fucking Beeb persisting with this bs that Barbara Windsor has died

Posted (edited)
16 minutes ago, aintforever said:

So we move on to Jan 6th and the joint session to count and officially register the Electoral College votes, where, no doubt, some Republicans will try to object to certain states' collegiate votes - pointless as the Democrats are in the majority in the lower House and both Houses must separately agree to overturn or reject a certification.

( Unless something really weird happens during Monday's EC voting. That is, something SO weird that it would make Scally's postings seem entirely logical and accurate ).

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Posted
On 11/12/2020 at 13:08, Weston Super Saint said:

Yesterday they carried out the execution of a man who was convicted in 1999 - over 20 years ago!

If Trump was doing it 'out of spite' wouldn't it have made more sense for him to do so at the beginning of his Presidency?  It's not like the guy wasn't already in prison on 'death row' at that time!

So why not push for it then rather than wait until he is on his way out and, when traditionally, Presidents leave these matters for the incoming President? 

Posted
On 11/12/2020 at 16:19, Lord Duckhunter said:

What a load of old pony. 

Yeah, he's doing it because of his respect for the justice system and the rule of law.

 

🤪🤪🤪

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I’m sure all Those who opposed the Tory win in the Uk, who applauded the campaigning  labour supporters screaming “not my prime minister” have absolutely no issue with with any of the trump supporters currently protesting on the USA. As that would by hypocritical now wouldn’t it.....

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Posted (edited)
21 minutes ago, Turkish said:

I’m sure all Those who opposed the Tory win in the Uk, who applauded those campaigning against the labour supporters screaming “not my prime minister” have absolutely no issue with with any of the trump supporters currently protesting on the USA. As that would by hypocritical now wouldn’t it.....

No. Where were the allegations of 'ballot stuffing', foreign interference, trying to use the Courts to overturn the popular vote, the leader of the losing party blitzing the media because he had a sulk on ?

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Posted
8 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

No. Where were the allegations of 'ballot stuffing', foreign interference, trying to use the Courts to overturn the popular vote, the leader of the losing party blitzing the media because he had a sulk on ?

Plenty of protestors in London opposing a democratic vote, plenty of protestors in the US opposing a democratic vote both claiming not my prime minister/president. What’s the difference? 

Posted (edited)
24 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Plenty of protestors in London opposing a democratic vote, plenty of protestors in the US opposing a democratic vote both claiming not my prime minister/president. What’s the difference? 

Can you really not work it out ?

Potesters protesting a legitimate result is perhaps comparable, the way Trump, his hangers-on, and fanatic supporters have reacted, abused the media, the Courts, and the Constitution make it a completely different picture - on a far more dangerous level. How many protesters over here claimed that the election was 'stolen' ? How many claimed that polling numbers were deliberately and artificially manipulated ? How many believed that the polling process had been illegally altered so as to 'fix' the result ? How many claimed that dead people had been inserted onto the elctoral roll to inflate voter numbers ? Where was the Twitter feed from the Leader of the Opposition constantly berating anybody and everybody who failed to agree with his assertion that he had won the 'legitimate' vote ? Where were the claims that the 'Main Stream Media' were part of a conspiracy ? How many Court cases were launched to overturn parts of the poll and disqualify hundreds of thousands of legitimate votes ?

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Posted
6 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Can you really not work it out ?

Potesters protesting a legitimate result is perhaps comparable, the way Trump, his hangers-on, and fanatic supporters have reacted, abused the media, the Courts, and the Constitution make it a completely different picture - on a far more dangerous level. How many protesters over here claimed that the election was 'stolen' ? How many claimed that polling numbers were deliberately and artificially manipulated ? How many believed that the polling process had been illegally altered so as to 'fix' the result ? How many claimed that dead people had been inserted onto the elctoral roll to inflate voter numbers ? Where was the Twitter feed from the Leader of the Opposition constantly berating anybody and everybody who failed to agree with his assertion that he had won the 'legitimate' vote ? Where were the claims that the 'Main Stream Media' were part of a conspiracy ? How many Court cases were launched to overturn parts of the poll and disqualify hundreds of thousands of legitimate votes ?

Can’t you work it out?

two lots of supporters both opposing a democratic vote. “Not my prime minister/president”  How can one be right the other wrong, it a frigging democratic vote, despite all the bollocks spouted by the US lot

Posted (edited)
32 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Can’t you work it out?

two lots of supporters both opposing a democratic vote. “Not my prime minister/president”  How can one be right the other wrong, it a frigging democratic vote, despite all the bollocks spouted by the US lot

Every election / poll / referendum has sore losers. Only the US Presidential Election of 2020 has shown us how much damage to democratic principles an individual can do, and how gullible people are willing to become inspite of common sense, in the face of incontrovertable evidence, and the reality of the situation.

 

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Posted
20 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Every election / poll / referendum has sore losers. Only the US Presidential Election of 2020 has shown us how much damage to democratic principles an individual can do, and how gullible people are willing to become inspite of common sense, in the face of incontrovertable evidence, and the reality of the situation.

 

Disagree. The Brexit vote reaction and recent elections show how damaging opposing democracy is 

Posted
5 hours ago, Turkish said:

Disagree. The Brexit vote reaction and recent elections show how damaging opposing democracy is 

As a natural contrarian I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that you aren’t too stupid to understand. 

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Posted
9 hours ago, Turkish said:

Can’t you work it out?

two lots of supporters both opposing a democratic vote. “Not my prime minister/president”  How can one be right the other wrong, it a frigging democratic vote, despite all the bollocks spouted by the US lot

UK election = Pissed off people blowing off steam. Sore losers granted but not calling it fraud etc.

 

US election = POTUS and the GOP refusing to accept the results of the election, attempting to reverse it and inciting followers to armed intervention and talking about seceding from the Union. A bit more than sore losers.

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Posted
41 minutes ago, benjii said:

Is Turkish really this stupid or is he just trying too hard?

What’s stupid? Didn’t remainers spend years trying to overturn a vote they didn’t agree with or are we going to pretend that didn’t happen?

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Posted
46 minutes ago, View From The Top said:

UK election = Pissed off people blowing off steam. Sore losers granted but not calling it fraud etc.

 

US election = POTUS and the GOP refusing to accept the results of the election, attempting to reverse it and inciting followers to armed intervention and talking about seceding from the Union. A bit more than sore losers.

I’m not talking about Trump, he’s a bellend. I’m talking about the behaviours of the losing supporters. Not that different is it really.

Posted (edited)
11 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

Can you really not work it out ?

Potesters protesting a legitimate result is perhaps comparable, the way Trump, his hangers-on, and fanatic supporters have reacted, abused the media, the Courts, and the Constitution make it a completely different picture - on a far more dangerous level. How many protesters over here claimed that the election was 'stolen' ? How many claimed that polling numbers were deliberately and artificially manipulated ? How many believed that the polling process had been illegally altered so as to 'fix' the result ? How many claimed that dead people had been inserted onto the elctoral roll to inflate voter numbers ? Where was the Twitter feed from the Leader of the Opposition constantly berating anybody and everybody who failed to agree with his assertion that he had won the 'legitimate' vote ? Where were the claims that the 'Main Stream Media' were part of a conspiracy ? How many Court cases were launched to overturn parts of the poll and disqualify hundreds of thousands of legitimate votes ?

How many people with the EU referendum claimed there should be a second one because some people who voted had died? Some were too young to vote, some might have changed their mind, we should count all those that didn’t vote as remainers, the victory margin wasn’t big enough, The list went on and on. Not that different really is it. Yet this is all fine and anyone in the US unhappy with the vote result is absolute scum trump supporting racists. 

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Posted
3 hours ago, Turkish said:

I’m not talking about Trump, he’s a bellend. I’m talking about the behaviours of the losing supporters. Not that different is it really.

I'm not sure I remember armed militias turning up at tory households or the homes of election officials.

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Posted
40 minutes ago, View From The Top said:

I'm not sure I remember armed militias turning up at tory households or the homes of election officials.

Both had placards. Thinks that’s all he has seen bless him

Posted

My mother in law is one of those deluded Trump supporters that believe the election was rigged.

I'm wondering what the jail time is for kicking a 90 year old woman in the twat.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Ohio Saint said:

My mother in law is one of those deluded Trump supporters that believe the election was rigged.

I'm wondering what the jail time is for kicking a 90 year old woman in the twat.

Maybe just grab her by it. Thats permissible apparently 

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Posted
10 hours ago, Ohio Saint said:

My mother in law is one of those deluded Trump supporters that believe the election was rigged.

I'm wondering what the jail time is for kicking a 90 year old woman in the twat.

I'd pardon you

Posted
On 11/12/2020 at 13:51, CB Fry said:

He's conceded at last. 

Well that was short-lived. He's back to spreading the same baseless drivel on Twitter again.

Is it today that the electoral college vote to finalise everything?

Posted
1 hour ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Well that was short-lived. He's back to spreading the same baseless drivel on Twitter again.

Is it today that the electoral college vote to finalise everything?

Yes, but when we get to Jan 6th there will be objections, in which case the objections will fail as both houses of the Legislature must agree to invalidate a state's vote, and the Democrats control the lower house.

Posted (edited)

That's it then. California has just formally given its 55 votes to Biden, taking him to 302.

Will be very interesting to see what Donny's next move will be.

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Posted (edited)
39 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

That's it then. California has just formally given its 55 votes to Biden, taking him to 302.

Will be very interesting to see what Donny's next move will be.

He sacked the Attorney General.

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Posted
2 hours ago, aintforever said:

So he’s basically spending his last few days sacking people, killing people and writing bollocks on Twitter.

Some people never change.

Posted

I think its important to understand there is a difference between not liking an outcome, but accepting it and believing it to be illegetite and trying to stop it by force. And there is a difference between trying to overturn a vote that has been held and working for a different result next time by persuading people to vote differently.

If an effective authoritarian comes along, the game is over for the US being a liberal democracy, it has been shown that the system could be easily kicked in.

Posted
7 minutes ago, Mystic Force said:

I think its important to understand there is a difference between not liking an outcome, but accepting it and believing it to be illegetite and trying to stop it by force. And there is a difference between trying to overturn a vote that has been held and working for a different result next time by persuading people to vote differently.

If an effective authoritarian comes along, the game is over for the US being a liberal democracy, it has been shown that the system could be easily kicked in.

Part of me is reassured by the robustness of the US safeguards. Nearly all of the public officials and judges did their duty regardless of their own personal politics. But you cant ignore the fact that over half of the Republican senators and representatives backed the Texas case  - basically one state attacking three others in a brazen attempt to get a national Presidential election overturned. 

Phoney nationalism has done huge damage to social cohesion of both the US and UK and to the respect other countries accord to us. 

Posted

Is Donnie now going to call Republican Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell a traitor now that he has finally acknowledged Biden's position as President Elect ?

Posted (edited)
On 28/11/2020 at 18:11, scally said:

Is he president yet then?

How about now Scally? Or has ‘sleepy Joe’ still not got a hope in hell of becoming president?

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Posted (edited)
21 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Early days yet, he's got to survive another month or so doesn't he ;)

So they would end up with President Kamala Harris. That would wind a few up.

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