Donald Trump Appreciation Thread

[Turkish]

What’s interesting is that Trumps behavior the last few days, which he’s been absolutely lambasted for, is exactly the same behavior remainers Have portrayed since 2016, Yet He’s a w8nker and they were absolutely right to object to the result of a democratic vote.........

[badgerx16]

  On 07/11/2020 at 23:08, Turkish said:

 Yet he’s a w8nker and they were absolutely right to object to the result of a democratic vote.........

Expand  

Correct !

[Turkish]

  On 07/11/2020 at 23:14, badgerx16 said:

Correct !

Expand  

Can’t have it both ways.

[badgerx16]

  On 07/11/2020 at 23:15, Turkish said:

Can’t have it both ways.

Expand  

Why not, your 2 comments are mutually exclusive.

[Turkish]

  On 07/11/2020 at 23:17, badgerx16 said:

Why not, your 2 comments are mutually exclusive.

Expand  

Because your reply suggests You are opposed to a democratic vote. 

[badgerx16]

  On 07/11/2020 at 23:18, Turkish said:

Because your reply suggests You are opposed to a democratic vote. 

Expand  

Nigel Farage said a few days before the Brexit vote that that if the referendum was close, for instance 52%-48% in favour of remain, his fight would go on.

Mind you, Trump certainly is a wanker, and a cnut ( how does that work ? )

Edited 7 November, 2020 by badgerx16

[Turkish]

  On 07/11/2020 at 23:21, badgerx16 said:

Nigel Farage said a few days before the Brexit vote that that if the referendum was close, for instance 52%-48% in favour of remain, his fight would go on.

 

Expand  

 Farage says a lot of stuff, but we aren’t talking about him, we’re talking about you. Happy to argue about the brexit vote bit happy to criticise trump for arguing about the result of his are we?

[badgerx16]

  On 07/11/2020 at 23:24, Turkish said:

 Farage says a lot of stuff, but we aren’t talking about him, we’re talking about you. Happy to argue about the brexit vote bit happy to criticise trump for arguing about the result of his are we?

Expand  

I don't question the Brexit vote, I just think it will prove to be a mistake.

[Turkish]

  On 07/11/2020 at 23:25, badgerx16 said:

I don't question the Brexit vote, I just think it will prove to be a mistake.

Expand  

Good lad, so you’re not one of the many thousands who screamed and cried and moaned for years and years and are now going on about what a c8nt trump is for doing exactly what they’ve done. Good to know.

[badgerx16]

If you look up 'patronising' in the dictionary, does it say 'ITK' ?

[Turkish]

  On 07/11/2020 at 23:30, badgerx16 said:

If you look up 'patronising' in the dictionary, does it say 'ITK' ?

Expand  

Probably says that if you look up “point out hyposcrisy”

[aintforever]

  On 07/11/2020 at 23:27, Turkish said:

Good lad, so you’re not one of the many thousands who screamed and cried and moaned for years and years and are now going on about what a c8nt trump is for doing exactly what they’ve done. Good to know.

Expand  

It would be the same if the people in charge of the remain campaign invented stories of voter fraud to try and get the result overturned. Not sure that happened.

[Turkish]

  On 07/11/2020 at 23:34, aintforever said:

It would be the same if the people in charge of the remain campaign invented stories of voter fraud to try and get the result overturned. Not sure that happened.

Expand  

Coming from someone who has cried most days about the Current democratically elected government and brexit this is hilarious.

[aintforever]

  On 07/11/2020 at 23:36, Turkish said:

Coming from someone who has cried most days about the Current democratically elected government and brexit this is hilarious.

Expand  

Brilliant. I didn’t even vote remain you bell-end. 

[Turkish]

  On 07/11/2020 at 23:38, aintforever said:

Brilliant. I didn’t even vote remain you bell-end. 

Expand  

Plenty of posts with you grizzle gutting about the democratically elected government though you bell-end, hows they paying whatever it takes it taxes working out. You made up your mind yet? 🤣

[badgerx16]

  On 07/11/2020 at 23:33, Turkish said:

Probably says that if you look up “point out hyposcrisy”

Expand  

Why pick on Hypo specifically ? 😉

[aintforever]

  On 07/11/2020 at 23:46, Turkish said:

Plenty of posts with you grizzle gutting about the democratically elected government though you bell-end, hows they paying whatever it takes it taxes working out. You made up your mind yet? 🤣

Expand  

So moaning about a government is the same thing as the President of the USA inventing fraud stories to undermine their own democratic process.

face it, you are talking bollocks as usual.

[Turkish]

  On 07/11/2020 at 23:49, aintforever said:

So moaning about a government is the same thing as the President of the USA inventing fraud stories to undermine their own democratic process.

face it, you are talking bollocks as usual.

Expand  

Incorrect as usual. I’m talking about patterns of behavior and hypocrisy, which I know is something A lot of left wing people, such as yourself struggle to comprehend.

[moonraker]

  On 07/11/2020 at 23:18, Turkish said:

Because your reply suggests You are opposed to a democratic vote. 

Expand  

Trump has never won the popular vote, always a minority president. He’s a loser, fired, gone, failed, hopefully the first in a string of defeats for right wing poplarist politics.  It will be a long road but decent people have patience.

[Turkish]

  On 07/11/2020 at 23:52, moonraker said:

Trump has never won the popular vote, always a minority president. He’s a loser, fired, gone, failed, hopefully the first in a string of defeats for right wing poplarist politics.  It will be a long road but decent people have patience.

Expand  

He may be all those things but he was also the democratically elected leader of the US for 4 years. If you are opposed to that you are opposed to democracy. 

[badgerx16]

  On 07/11/2020 at 23:57, Turkish said:

He may be all those things but he was also the democratically elected leader of the US for 4 years. If you are opposed to that you are opposed to democracy. 

Expand  

All Trump's victory showed was if you are a beer swilling, gun toting, pickup driving, redneck, you'll never vote for a woman.

[Turkish]

  On 08/11/2020 at 00:17, badgerx16 said:

All Trump's victory showed was if you are a beer swilling, gun toting, pickup driving, redneck, you'll never vote for a woman.

Expand  

Again, all these things may be true, but it was a democratic vote, if you dont agree with it maybe you’d prefer the way China does it.

[hypochondriac]

  On 08/11/2020 at 00:17, badgerx16 said:

All Trump's victory showed was if you are a beer swilling, gun toting, pickup driving, redneck, you'll never vote for a woman.

Expand  

It wasn't all down to that. Hilary Clinton is a particularly obnoxious and dislikable woman which I'm sure had ab awful lot to do with it as well. 

[Jonnyboy]

  On 08/11/2020 at 01:11, hypochondriac said:

It wasn't all down to that. Hilary Clinton is a particularly obnoxious and dislikable woman which I'm sure had ab awful lot to do with it as well. 

Expand  

You're right, AOC would do better. 

[Hamilton Saint]

  On 07/11/2020 at 13:02, Weston Super Saint said:

Americans are fools!

If they had allowed the Russians to interfere they'd have had a result by now!  No chance the Russians would stand for this sloppiness!

Expand  

Reminds me of a joke I heard on The Frost Report on TV in the late 1960s: "Somebody broke into the Kremlin last week and stole next year's election results."

[saintspepper]

Currently at the White House: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r3ZEFM7_Itk

[Singapore Saint]

President Trump has been the best president ever, I hope he wins the law suits and is re-elected.

[Barsiem]

  On 07/11/2020 at 23:08, Turkish said:

What’s interesting is that Trumps behavior the last few days, which he’s been absolutely lambasted for, is exactly the same behavior remainers Have portrayed since 2016, Yet He’s a w8nker and they were absolutely right to object to the result of a democratic vote.........

Expand  

There’s a massive difference between voters doing it and a party leader doing it. Your comparison to this would be David Cameron, who accepted the results, as have the majority of remainers btw

[LVSaint]

  On 08/11/2020 at 06:33, Singapore Saint said:

President Trump has been the best president ever, I hope he wins the law suits and is re-elected.

Expand  

He better hope he wins the lawsuits, he may be up to his eyeballs in them come January.

[Sheaf Saint]

  On 08/11/2020 at 06:33, Singapore Saint said:

President Trump has been the best president ever, I hope he wins the law suits and is re-elected.

Expand  

By what measurable standards has he been the "best president ever"? 

[Weston Super Saint]

  On 08/11/2020 at 07:59, Sheaf Saint said:

By what measurable standards has he been the "best president ever"? 

Expand  

Fake tan?  You can't argue against that, surely!

[hypochondriac]

  On 08/11/2020 at 01:25, Jonnyboy said:

You're right, AOC would do better. 

Expand  

I'm not sure that's the only two choices is it.

[badgerx16]

  On 08/11/2020 at 00:29, Turkish said:

Again, all these things may be true, but it was a democratic vote, if you dont agree with it maybe you’d prefer the way China do it.

Expand  

You keep reminding us that DT won a democratic vote, and nobody is disputing it. I would, however, point out that Hitler came to power via democratic votes. Just because an electoral system presents a variation on Majority Rule, ( and Trump, like most US and UK leaders did not get a majority of the popular vote ), doesn't mean it's procedures and results can't be questioned.

[The Cat]

  On 08/11/2020 at 01:25, Jonnyboy said:

You're right, AOC would do better. 

Expand  

Alex Oxlade Chamberlain?

[hypochondriac]

  On 08/11/2020 at 09:10, badgerx16 said:

You keep reminding us that DT won a democratic vote, and nobody is disputing it. I would, however, point out that Hitler came to power via democratic votes. Just because an electoral system presents a variation on Majority Rule, ( and Trump, like most US and UK leaders did not get a majority of the popular vote ), doesn't mean it's procedures and results can't be questioned.

Expand  

Lol. Godwin's law! I guess if true you'll be full throated in the republican efforts to investigate the procedures and results? 

Edited 8 November, 2020 by hypochondriac

[egg]

  On 08/11/2020 at 09:10, badgerx16 said:

You keep reminding us that DT won a democratic vote, and nobody is disputing it. I would, however, point out that Hitler came to power via democratic votes. Just because an electoral system presents a variation on Majority Rule, ( and Trump, like most US and UK leaders did not get a majority of the popular vote ), doesn't mean it's procedures and results can't be questioned.

Expand  

You're off on this. DT was elected democratically, nothing to discuss. Hitler comparison is daft. 

[Sheaf Saint]

  On 08/11/2020 at 09:38, egg said:

You're off on this. DT was elected democratically, nothing to discuss. Hitler comparison is daft. 

Expand  

Why is it? He was elected democratically as well. He used exactly the same kind of populism and nationalistic ethnic scapegoating that Trump used to appeal to people's fears in order to gain support. The comparisons between them are quite blatant if you actually know your history.

[egg]

  On 08/11/2020 at 09:50, Sheaf Saint said:

Why is it? He was elected democratically as well. He used exactly the same kind of populism and nationalistic ethnic scapegoating that Trump used to appeal to people's fears in order to gain support. The comparisons between them are quite blatant if you actually know your history.

Expand  

I know the history. Completely different times. Completely different countries. Completely different ethnic mixes. Completely different democratic systems. Completely different behaviour when in power. Otherwise, exactly the same. 

[badgerx16]

  On 08/11/2020 at 09:38, egg said:

You're off on this. DT was elected democratically, nothing to discuss. Hitler comparison is daft. 

Expand  

Hitler was elected to power via democratic votes, asked to become Chancellor by President Hindenberg, but once in power began to corrupt and dismantle democratic processes and institutions.

[badgerx16]

  On 08/11/2020 at 09:53, egg said:

I know the history. Completely different times. Completely different countries. Completely different ethnic mixes. Completely different democratic systems. Completely different behaviour when in power. Otherwise, exactly the same. 

Expand  

So you agree, Hitler came to power democratically. It may have been a "different system", but then the systems that elected BoJo, Macron, and Merkel are all democratic yet different.

[badgerx16]

  On 08/11/2020 at 09:32, hypochondriac said:

Lol. Godwin's law! I guess if true you'll be full throated in the republican efforts to investigate the procedures and results? 

Expand  

Why ?

[Turkish]

  On 08/11/2020 at 06:53, Barsiem said:

There’s a massive difference between voters doing it and a party leader doing it. Your comparison to this would be David Cameron, who accepted the results, as have the majority of remainers btw

Expand  

Cameron quit mate, he called it on then ran away when he had to deal with what he created, that’s not accepting a vote it’s being a coward. Trump won’t accept the vote, neither would remainers, who screamed and cried every day since the referendum. We need another one because some people who voted have died now, some weren’t old enough and what about all those who didn’t vote, let’s count them as remain too. Then of course there are the more recent “not my prime minister” squinning. Sounds familiar to something that has been said this week doesn’t it....

[egg]

  On 08/11/2020 at 09:57, badgerx16 said:

So you agree, Hitler came to power democratically. It may have been a "different system", but then the systems that elected BoJo, Macron, and Merkel are all democratic yet different.

Expand  

I disagree that there is any point in mentioning in the same breath as Hitler. Completely different animals, and I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve by highlighting that they were both voted in. Nobody doubts that. 

[Hockey_saint]

  On 08/11/2020 at 10:05, egg said:

I disagree that there is any point in mentioning in the same breath as Hitler. Completely different animals, and I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve by highlighting that they were both voted in. Nobody doubts that. 

Expand  

Except the backing of far right groups from both or Trump's father's membership of the KKK. The comparisons are perfectly reasonable.

[Barsiem]

  On 08/11/2020 at 10:02, Turkish said:

Cameron quit mate, he called it on then ran away when he had to deal with what he created, that’s not accepting a vote it’s being a coward. Trump won’t accept the vote, neither would remainers, who screamed and cried every day since the referendum. We need another one because some people who voted have died now, some weren’t old enough and what about all those who didn’t vote, let’s count them as remain too. Then of course there are the more recent “not my prime minister” squinning. Sounds familiar to something that has been said this week doesn’t it....

Expand  

You’re twisting the argument to fit your narrative.  Cameron accepted the result.  The fact he quit afterwards has no relevance whatsoever.

16m voted remain, only a small proportion of which have “screamed and cried every day since”.  Of course these are the ones you hear from, as those who accept they lost have just got on with their lives.  However these remainers are not comparable to the POTUS

[egg]

  On 08/11/2020 at 10:14, Hockey_saint said:

Except the backing of far right groups from both or Trump's father's membership of the KKK. The comparisons are perfectly reasonable.

Expand  

So Trump’s fathers beliefs justify a Trump/Hitler comparison. I’m no Trump fan, but that’s a stretch.

[sadoldgit]

For someone who frequently criticises people who talk politics on a football forum ITK, you seem to have taken to it like a Duckhunter to water!

[badgerx16]

  On 08/11/2020 at 10:05, egg said:

I disagree that there is any point in mentioning in the same breath as Hitler. Completely different animals, and I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve by highlighting that they were both voted in. Nobody doubts that. 

Expand  

The point was made in response to repeated bleats of "Trump was elected democratically", as if everything else about him that is nauseous and repulsive is excused by that one simple fact. It isn't comparing Trump with Hitler, per se, but the potential for demcratic systems to be abused and manipulated, resulting in divisive and potentially dangerous outcomes.

Edited 8 November, 2020 by badgerx16

[Turkish]

  On 08/11/2020 at 10:17, Barsiem said:

You’re twisting the argument to fit your narrative.  Cameron accepted the result.  The fact he quit afterwards has no relevance whatsoever.

16m voted remain, only a small proportion of which have “screamed and cried every day since”.  Of course these are the ones you hear from, as those who accept they lost have just got on with their lives.  However these remainers are not comparable to the POTUS

Expand  

Cameron quit because of the referendum result, he even said that in his resignation speech, that’s fact.

course they’re comparable, he won’t accept the result neither will they, if they criticise trump they are hypocrites.

[Turkish]

  On 08/11/2020 at 10:30, badgerx16 said:

The point was made in response to repeated bleats of "Trump was elected democratially", as if everything else about him that is nauseous and repulsive is excused by that one simple fact.

Expand  

No one has said that.