Donald Trump Appreciation Thread

[egg]

6 hours ago, Mixedkebab said:

Seems like we’re all fucked then? The idyllic, rewarding, steadily improving and financially secure lives we’ve all been living these  last 17 years or so have come to an abrupt end 😞 

Pretty much. There's a decent ISH article from Faisal Islam on the BBC site on it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp34nkj1kv2o

 

[Gloucester Saint]

Here are some of the useful idiots enabling them https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr4nr3230e7o

They make our Red Wall seats look like Oxford and Cambridge by comparison.

[revolution saint]

On 04/04/2025 at 11:08, trousers said:

I usually check my pension fund's performance on a daily basis.... too scared to check at the moment 😲

Pensions are an interesting part of all this. I’m not an expert in them but assume most Americans have defined contributions style ones and stock market fluctuations are going to negatively affect them. I’m guessing that would disproportionately impact Trump supporters too given they tend to be older, poorer and in less well paid jobs.

[Gloucester Saint]

8 minutes ago, revolution saint said:

Pensions are an interesting part of all this. I’m not an expert in them but assume most Americans have defined contributions style ones and stock market fluctuations are going to negatively affect them. I’m guessing that would disproportionately impact Trump supporters too given they tend to be older, poorer and in less well paid jobs.

It certainly will impact them in so many ways but they are so addled they don’t care - until the transmission on their 20 year old Dodge pick-up gives up beyond repair - or their phone breaks in a bar room brawl which needs replacing. 

[badgerx16]

27 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Here are some of the useful idiots enabling them https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr4nr3230e7o

They make our Red Wall seats look like Oxford and Cambridge by comparison.

The steel works is all in favour of tariffs on steel and aluminium imports, but nor on the stuff it brings in for it's own needs.

[east-stand-nic]

23 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

I have been thoroughly enjoying the contributions on this thread from the forum’s self proclaimed greatest intellect. He does seem to be struggling with issues that are not necessarily mutually exclusive however. For example, it is entirely possible for Donald Trump and his actions to be motivated by the fact that he is both “thick” and “sinister”. 

 

So, he created a situation that will benefit him and others like him, but that is thick? You really are one dopey old racist.

20 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

So no truth in the rumour that Trump is going to apply a 50% tariff on football forums in the UK because they are saying nasty things about him then?

You really do love a conspiracy theory don’t you nic? Tell me, what can we do on TSW to stop Trump in his tracks. If we have the power, tell us how to harness it please.

Where is the conspiracy in anything I said that you replied to? Once again you misread and misunderstand.

[badgerx16]

55 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said:

So, he created a situation that will benefit him and others like him, but that is thick?

Trump is far from being "the full shilling", but he provides an excellent front man for the powers behind the throne, who are the ones manipulating events for their own gain.

If you want to herd thick people in a particular direction use a figurehead they can easily identify with.

[badgerx16]

Allegedly, ( according to Vanity Fair and the New York Times );

During his first Presidential campaign, Donald Trump realised he needed somebody to help him with trade policy. He outlined a few vague ideas / priciples to Jared Kushner and asked him to find somebody to advise Trump. Kushner went on AMAZON.com and browsed the titles, ( and images of the front covers ), of books on economics, and saw a book called "Death by China", a book co-authored by Peter Navarro, a well known trade policy 'hawk'. Kushner cold called Navarro, and he agreed to join Trump's team.

Navarro cited an economics 'expert' called Ron Vara as the source for his favouring of tariffs as an economic tool, and once Trump was elected for his first term memos from Vara would circulate the White House supporting the use of tariffs, particulaly against China...........

Ron Vara is a creation of Navarro's mind - he does not exist. He was created to give Navarro an informed source to quote in his books.

Edited April 6 by badgerx16

[Whitey Grandad]

22 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Allegedly, ( according to Vanity Fair and the New York Times );

During his first Presidential campaign, Donald Trump realised he needed somebody to halp him with trade policy. He outlined a few vague ideas / priciples to Jared Kushner and asked him to find somebody to advise Trump. Kushner went on AMAZON.com and browsed the titles, ( and images of the front covers ), of books on economics, and saw a book called "Death by China", a book co-authored by Peter Navarro, a well known trade policy 'hawk'. Kushner cold called Navarro, and he agreed to join Trump's team.

Navarro cited an economics 'expert' called Ron Vara as the source for his favouring of tariffs as an economic tool, and once Trump was elected for his first term memos from Vara would circulate the White House supporting the use of tariffs, particulaly against China...........

Ron Vara is a creation of Navarro's mind - he does not exist. He was created to give Navarro an informed source to quote in his books.

And Ron Vara is of course an anagram of Navarro. Just as Alucard is of Dracula. At least he didn’t invent anybody called Orravan. That might have been too obvious.

[spyinthesky]

11 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said:

And Ron Vara is of course an anagram of Navarro. Just as Alucard is of Dracula. At least he didn’t invent anybody called Orravan. That might have been too obvious.

In his younger days Trump created a non de plume, John Barron, who used to make calls to various people/media outlets etc with positive comments on Trump. Unfortunately he couldnt moderate the tone of his voice or the words used and most people knew it was Tump calling,
His youngest son is named Barron which provides an additional clue.

[spyinthesky]

23 hours ago, revolution saint said:

Pensions are an interesting part of all this. I’m not an expert in them but assume most Americans have defined contributions style ones and stock market fluctuations are going to negatively affect them. I’m guessing that would disproportionately impact Trump supporters too given they tend to be older, poorer and in less well paid jobs.

You are right, most workers have a defined contribution pension scheme called a 401(K) named after the relevant US Tax Code.

[benjii]

Could be a good few days to invest!

[whelk]

FTSE already 400 points down

[egg]

41 minutes ago, whelk said:

FTSE already 400 points down

It's carnage out there, and I'm not sure where it'll end. Asia took a battering, and Europe this morning is in dissaray.

Anyone saving in a stocks/shares/unit trust based pension will have had at least a few years added to their working lives by this. 

[whelk]

5 minutes ago, egg said:

It's carnage out there, and I'm not sure where it'll end. Asia took a battering, and Europe this morning is in dissaray.

Anyone saving in a stocks/shares/unit trust based pension will have had at least a few years added to their working lives by this. 

Trump is more unsettling than a global pandemic.

only plus side is a load of the 77 million fuckwits that voted him in are getting their investments fucked.

[CB Fry]

Just now, whelk said:

Trump is more unsettling than a global pandemic.

only plus side is a load of the 77 million fuckwits that voted him in are getting their investments fucked.

When it all gets reversed he'll present the recovery as some triumphant victory. And his thick cunt mug supporters will lap it up.

Of course there will be insiders and short-traders who will / are getting very rich off this right now.

[benjii]

21 minutes ago, egg said:

It's carnage out there, and I'm not sure where it'll end. Asia took a battering, and Europe this morning is in dissaray.

Anyone saving in a stocks/shares/unit trust based pension will have had at least a few years added to their working lives by this. 

If you're not retiring for a few years then you'll likely be OK. It will recover. It probably is a good time to buy index-linked ETFs and similar (maybe wait another day or two to see what's happening)!

Good lesson to move the bulk of investments away from equities as you get close to retirement though.

[whelk]

Teach Botswana to sell their fucking diamonds. Dig the bastards up in Ohio FFS and give fat Americans jobs

[spyinthesky]

40 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

When it all gets reversed he'll present the recovery as some triumphant victory. And his thick cunt mug supporters will lap it up.

Of course there will be insiders and short-traders who will / are getting very rich off this right now.

Marjorie Taylor-Greene is one who apparently shorted stock a day before Trump's Tariff announcement.
She is obviously knows a thing or two about the stock market!!

[spyinthesky]

45 minutes ago, whelk said:

Trump is more unsettling than a global pandemic.

only plus side is a load of the 77 million fuckwits that voted him in are getting their investments fucked.

Talk about pandemics, apparently the vaccine sceptic, Robert F Kennedy Jr is having to travel to Texas to console parents of a dead child who contracted measles.
Having more or less eradicated the illness a few years back the pushback against the MMR vaccine has led to significant numbers of children not being immunised allowing the very infectious illness to return.
Perhaps ingesting bleach might help?

[badgerx16]

3 minutes ago, spyinthesky said:

Marjorie Taylor-Greene is one who apparently shorted stock a day before Trump's Tariff announcement.
She is obviously knows a thing or two about the stock market!!

She is probably moving money into Glock and Colt in anticipation n of civil disorder. She loves her guns.

[Danbert]

Where is Guided Missile when you want him? I'd love to her his take on this.

[Gloucester Saint]

58 minutes ago, egg said:

It's carnage out there, and I'm not sure where it'll end. Asia took a battering, and Europe this morning is in dissaray.

Anyone saving in a stocks/shares/unit trust based pension will have had at least a few years added to their working lives by this. 

It’ll spring back though over a few years when either he u-turns after the GOP loses both Houses in 2026 or the GOP Senators grow a backbone. Feel sorry for anyone in their early 60s close to retirement now though, hopefully in Reform UK voting areas this is a huge lesson learned about the costs of populism. 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

14 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said:

And Ron Vara is of course an anagram of Navarro. Just as Alucard is of Dracula. At least he didn’t invent anybody called Orravan. That might have been too obvious.

Hang on. Are you saying the global blood donation scheme I've invested in, is some kind of scam?

[Whitey Grandad]

18 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Hang on. Are you saying the global blood donation scheme I've invested in, is some kind of scam?

Yep. Suck it up.

[revolution saint]

I presume Trump’s plan is to negotiate or renegotiate trade deals with blocs and countries as there’s no way keeping the tariffs as they are will work.

I did listen to Will Hutton talking about the UK assisting Canada in a closer trade deal with the EU and then piggybacking on it for the UK. Trading bloc expands to Australia, New Zealand, India and other commonwealth countries.  Not sure I can see that happening but would piss Trump off if it did.

 

Edited April 7 by revolution saint

[sadoldgit]

16 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

Allegedly, ( according to Vanity Fair and the New York Times );

During his first Presidential campaign, Donald Trump realised he needed somebody to help him with trade policy. He outlined a few vague ideas / priciples to Jared Kushner and asked him to find somebody to advise Trump. Kushner went on AMAZON.com and browsed the titles, ( and images of the front covers ), of books on economics, and saw a book called "Death by China", a book co-authored by Peter Navarro, a well known trade policy 'hawk'. Kushner cold called Navarro, and he agreed to join Trump's team.

Navarro cited an economics 'expert' called Ron Vara as the source for his favouring of tariffs as an economic tool, and once Trump was elected for his first term memos from Vara would circulate the White House supporting the use of tariffs, particulaly against China...........

Ron Vara is a creation of Navarro's mind - he does not exist. He was created to give Navarro an informed source to quote in his books.

This can’t possibly be the case. Nic had assured us that Trump surrounds himself with proper bona fide experts!!!

More here.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/4/4/2314684/-Rachel-Maddow-Trump-crashed-the-world-s-markets-based-on-the-advice-of-a-fictional-economist#

How many times has Trump filed for bankruptcy? 6 isn’t it? Perhaps he isn’t that business savvy after all nic and needs to find some new, real financial experts?

Edited April 7 by sadoldgit

[benjii]

3 hours ago, Danbert said:

Where is Guided Missile when you want him? I'd love to her his take on this.

Would you really, though?

[whelk]

5 hours ago, Danbert said:

Where is Guided Missile when you want him? I'd love to her his take on this.

I literally cannot think of one person on this forum I respect less than that prick 

 

[badgerx16]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2lzjnj79rdo

 

"A billionaire backer of Donald Trump has urged the US president to pause his recently announced trade tariffs, or risk "a self-induced, economic nuclear winter".

Amid market turmoil, hedge fund manager Bill Ackman said the president should take three months to allow countries to renegotiate their trading relationships with the US."

 

"In his post on X, external on Sunday, Mr Ackman acknowledged the Trump argument that the global trade system had "disadvantaged" the US.

But, he wrote, tariffs that Trump had imposed were "massive and disproportionate", and did not distinguish between American friends and enemies."

Edited April 7 by badgerx16

[aintforever]

Don’t worry, the orange man-baby is working hard to sort everything out: https://trumpgolftrack.com

[Gloucester Saint]

Now threatening extra retaliation to China and having a pop at Japan. He’s totally lost it, he might need to have a ‘medical emergency’ for a few weeks whilst any adults left in his party sort this chaos out.

60% of Americans are getting hit by the stock market crash. However racist his rural heartland voters might be, when they discover what he’s done to the cost of their pick up trucks, mobile phones, food, energy, and so much more on an everyday level they’ve taken for granted, there will be a backlash however much the other policies are white supremacist and the GOP will panic at losing both Houses in 2026, with the Wisconsin SC race being a preview. Musk literally couldn’t even buy votes there. 

Edited April 7 by Gloucester Saint

[egg]

4 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Now threatening extra retaliation to China and having a pop at Japan. He’s totally lost it, he might need to have a ‘medical emergency’ for a few weeks whilst any adults left in his party sort this chaos out.

60% of Americans are getting hit by the stock market crash. However racist his rural heartland voters might be, when they discover what he’s done to the cost of their pick up trucks, mobile phones, food, energy, and so much more on an everyday level they’ve taken for granted, there will be a backlash however much the other policies are white supremacist and the GOP will panic at losing both Houses in 2026, with the Wisconsin SC race being a preview. Musk literally couldn’t even buy votes there. 

Yep, he's gone nuts. I suspect the dippy MAGA crowd will believe that the US have faced the tariffs he said though and that he's fighting their corner.  In fact, I suspect he probably believes it, and can't see that China are merely matching 54% with 54%

[CB Fry]

1 hour ago, whelk said:

I literally cannot think of one person on this forum I respect less than that prick 

 

As usual he'll just cut and paste some bollocks from the Daily Telegraph and pretend he thought of it.

[Gloucester Saint]

1 minute ago, CB Fry said:

As usual he'll just cut and paste some bollocks from the Daily Telegraph and pretend he thought of it.

Although no longer from his former favourite source the Heritage Foundation who are spitting chips at the tariffs and his economic tsunami overall.

DT is a rudderless, Trump/Truss backing mess, leaking money like a colander. Senility comes free with a subscription to that tabloid.

[egg]

7 hours ago, benjii said:

If you're not retiring for a few years then you'll likely be OK. It will recover. It probably is a good time to buy index-linked ETFs and similar (maybe wait another day or two to see what's happening)!

Good lesson to move the bulk of investments away from equities as you get close to retirement though.

A savvy mate of mine moved most of his chunky portfolio from equity based funds recently. His tip was the Troy Trojan fund. I ignored him as it seemed too cautious. It's holding up well - expensive mistake. 

I'll probably be brave and look at some index linked stuff in the next few days. 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

7 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Yep. Suck it up.

When they said it would bleed me dry, I had no idea.

[badgerx16]

Republican Congressman Keith Self said in a Congressional committee meeting "It is the absolute right of the State to supervise the formation of public opinion" - a direct quote from...............

 

 

 

Josef Goebbels.

( Self even acknowledged this ).

Edited April 7 by badgerx16

[Weston Super Saint]

My prediction...

The murmurings of discontent get louder and the small protests last weekend start to grow.

Inevitably with the right to bear arms (and arm bears) there will be plenty of gunshots and eventually some deaths.

I predict at least 8 people will die in the ensuing riots before Trump agrees to lift the tariffs as that is what the people want.

Timescale is probably about 4 to 6 weeks.

Meanwhile his cronies will continue to keep their money nice and safe until Donny gives them the heads up and they go big on the stock market when it's at its lowest making them all a fortune. Who cares about the mugs that lose out / lose their lives!

[Weston Super Saint]

Nice to see truth social's share price (now DJT) is holding up fabulously.

Currently just over $17 from a six month high of $55.

The man's a fucking business deal genius and make no mistake.

[Gloucester Saint]

42 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Republican Congressman Keith Self said in a Congressional committee meeting "It is the absolute right of the State to supervise the formation of public opinion" - a direct quote from...............

 

 

 

Josef Goebbels.

( Self even acknowledged this ).

Keith Self is from Texas quelle surprise. A place where they don’t like the socialism in national socialism but otherwise liked Hitler’s regime. 

[badgerx16]

The Supreme Court has ruled that whilst Trump can use the Alien Enemies Act to deport alleged gang members, they must be given due process and the opportunity to challenge the decision in Court.

[rallyboy]

Do we know how long it will take Trump, his family, and his mates to buy up stocks and shares before he reverses a few decisions and brings the markets back up so they all make a killing?

Should we act surprised and congratulate him on saving the economy when it happens?

[egg]

56 minutes ago, rallyboy said:

Do we know how long it will take Trump, his family, and his mates to buy up stocks and shares before he reverses a few decisions and brings the markets back up so they all make a killing?

Should we act surprised and congratulate him on saving the economy when it happens?

The plan is much more than that. Yesterday's "misunderstanding" added $2 trillion plus to the S&P alone for a 10 minute window. Profiting was made in that window. 

I'm in the camp that the plan includes devalue the dollar, bring business to the US by force of tariffs, make US exports more affordable, and weaken china by weakening it's export market and the value of it's dollar reserves. I say includes because there's more than that going on. 

[Saint in Paradise]

[egg]

Just now, Saint in Paradise said:

The Russia significance imo is simply an attempt to separate them from China and isolate China. If Trump doesn't sort his policy out I think that policy will back fire. If we're honest, on the world stage, what harm has China done other than it's mass IP rights theft. 

[sadoldgit]

If true this would explain a lot.

https://mindsitenews.org/2025/04/01/sanewashed-trump-dementia-and-mental-illness/

[badgerx16]

Elon Musk on Peter Navarro ; "Navarro is truly a moron............ Navarro is dumber than a sack of bricks."

[egg]

5 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Elon Musk on Peter Navarro ; "Navarro is truly a moron............ Navarro is dumber than a sack of bricks."

I'm warming to Musk all of a sudden. 

[Gloucester Saint]

3 hours ago, egg said:

I'm warming to Musk all of a sudden. 

I’m not but he’s got the potential to become the Cummings to Trump’s Boris. Hints that his 120 spell in DOGE is coming to an end early and his businesses are tanking rapidly. The tariff madness is certainly not helping him one iota either. Didn’t realise Musk had a pop about the ‘Ron Vara’ imaginary expert. Navarro is an election denier, 6 Jan participant or at refusing to testify on who was behind it and jailbird. And he’s making trade decisions impacting the whole world 🤦‍♂️ 

Edited April 8 by Gloucester Saint