trousers Posted April 4 Posted April 4 (edited) 11 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said: I would suggest not logging in again until the dust has settled. Maybe four or five years down the road. After the next presidential election. I usually check my pension fund's performance on a daily basis.... too scared to check at the moment 😲 Edited April 4 by trousers
tdmickey3 Posted April 4 Posted April 4 If anyone had any doubt that Trump and his cronies were utterly stupid https://news.sky.com/story/island-home-only-to-penguins-hit-by-tariffs-and-other-things-you-may-have-missed-on-liberation-day-133409
Gloucester Saint Posted April 4 Posted April 4 2 hours ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: Another brave, bold policy decision to do the right thing for his country, and his people. Favouring them over decades of financial institutions, companies and countries greedily unbalancing trade for their own benefits. It's a shame it looks so drastic, but this is due to how long it has been allowed to continue. No doubt there will be hysteria over the move. But if he stays the course, the rebalancing will show the strength of our special ally and the use of the popular mandate Trump has. His party has to remain strong, and not cave into short term concerns. - Liz Truss That’s akin to Katie Price commending someone’s standard of driving a car. 1
Gloucester Saint Posted April 4 Posted April 4 1 hour ago, Tamesaint said: Liz Truss or Guided "Shit for Brains" Missile? Similar refuelling habits, allegedly. 1 1
badgerx16 Posted April 4 Posted April 4 17 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said: If anyone had any doubt that Trump and his cronies were utterly stupid https://news.sky.com/story/island-home-only-to-penguins-hit-by-tariffs-and-other-things-you-may-have-missed-on-liberation-day-133409 I look forward to seeing how the production of diamonds, currently mined in and imported from Lesotho, is transferred to the US. 2
Gloucester Saint Posted April 4 Posted April 4 10 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: I look forward to seeing how the production of diamonds, currently mined in and imported from Lesotho, is transferred to the US. That’s even more of a stick up than Ukraine and minerals. 1
east-stand-nic Posted April 4 Posted April 4 Ah lovely. This is exactly why I love this forum so much. So many fools who truly believe they know it all. Does anyone truly believe did this coz he is thick? Seriously? Do you have brains at all? He has expert advisors. He knows exactly what he is doing. It is not for your investment or pension, it is for him, his cronies, his owners and for Thier futures to grab more money and power from you yet again. But no, his is a moron. An orange baby. Stop playing identity politics and favourites and wake up. You are all being played, so much so that you have fun talking about it whiles your future is being taken away from you. Dopey or what. 2
revolution saint Posted April 4 Posted April 4 Just now, east-stand-nic said: Ah lovely. This is exactly why I love this forum so much. So many fools who truly believe they know it all. Does anyone truly believe did this coz he is thick? Seriously? Do you have brains at all? He has expert advisors. He knows exactly what he is doing. It is not for your investment or pension, it is for him, his cronies, his owners and for Thier futures to grab more money and power from you yet again. But no, his is a moron. An orange baby. Stop playing identity politics and favourites and wake up. You are all being played, so much so that you have fun talking about it whiles your future is being taken away from you. Dopey or what. Name one person who has brought identity politics into the tariff discussion? Never happened. Dopey or what? 1
east-stand-nic Posted April 4 Posted April 4 (edited) 8 minutes ago, revolution saint said: Name one person who has brought identity politics into the tariff discussion? Never happened. Dopey or what? Err, all of you dopey. You dislike trump so much that you don't care what he does, it is all bad no matter what and he is thick no matter what. This is exactly why he does what he does. He knows the idiots on forums will be too busy calling him names and try to out clever each other with pretend knowledge, too busy to stop and think why he is really doing these things. Stop hitting at the person. Stop, engage brain, see what they are doing and stop it. Edited April 4 by east-stand-nic Typo 2 1
CB Fry Posted April 4 Posted April 4 Just now, east-stand-nic said: Err, all of you dopey. You dislike trump so much that you don't care what he does, it is all bad no matter what and he is thick no matter what. This is exactly why he does what he does. He knows the idiots on forums will be too busy calling him names and try to put clever each other with pretend knowledge, too busy to stop and think why he is really doing these things. Stop hitting at the person. Stop, engage brain, see what they are doing and stop it. So he does things to annoy "idiots on forums"? Seems like a shit way to run a country. 5 1
Gloucester Saint Posted April 4 Posted April 4 1 hour ago, Tamesaint said: Liz Truss or Guided "Shit for Brains" Missile? Ironically, Johnny might derive some indirect benefit from the tariffs as a lot of chemical supply comes from China and India who have been taxed more aggressively, so the market for pesticides might be easier over there. 2
tdmickey3 Posted April 4 Posted April 4 (edited) 15 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said: Err, all of you dopey. You dislike trump so much that you don't care what he does, it is all bad no matter what and he is thick no matter what. This is exactly why he does what he does. He knows the idiots on forums will be too busy calling him names and try to out clever each other with pretend knowledge, too busy to stop and think why he is really doing these things. Stop hitting at the person. Stop, engage brain, see what they are doing and stop it. I know you are a laughably tragic trump fanboy but surely even you can see how utterly stupid it all is, I mean, who in their right mind puts tariffs on an island inhabited by only Penguins. Batshit mental Edited April 4 by tdmickey3 2 1
spyinthesky Posted April 4 Posted April 4 Latest bit of Trump 'magic' Laura Loomer, that well known conspiracy theorist who actually has the honour of being accused of 'being off the scale' by Marjorie Taylor-Greene, dropped in for a fireside chat with her orange hued hero a couple of days back. She came bearing gifts ie a list of people within the Defence Dept she considered were not toeing the Trump line. As a consequence six National Security Officers were given the heave ho. Heaven help us all. 1 1
Lord Duckhunter Posted April 4 Posted April 4 Are tariffs a bad thing now? Whats the difference between The United States imposing tariffs on the rest of the world, & the EU imposing them on the rest of the world?
badgerx16 Posted April 4 Posted April 4 1 minute ago, Lord Duckhunter said: Are tariffs a bad thing now? Whats the difference between The United States imposing tariffs on the rest of the world, & the EU imposing them on the rest of the world? What Trump has done is nothing to do with 'reciprocal' tariffs. He has looked at trade imbalances and come up with a second grade formula to try to eradicate them. Not for one moment has any actual thought gone into working out how the trading relationships are structured or have come about, hence the lunacy of the Falklands and Lesotho situations, let alone the penguins on Heard and MacDonald Islands. He is totally financially illiterate. 4
badgerx16 Posted April 4 Posted April 4 (edited) 1 hour ago, east-stand-nic said: Does anyone truly believe did this coz he is thick? ...... But no, his is a moron. ..... Yes and yes. And so are the fuckwit acolytes he has in his Cabinet. He thinks that tariffs are a solution to a problem, but hasn't a clue as to what they are or how they work. Edited April 4 by badgerx16 1
benjii Posted April 4 Posted April 4 1 hour ago, east-stand-nic said: Ah lovely. This is exactly why I love this forum so much. So many fools who truly believe they know it all. Does anyone truly believe did this coz he is thick? Seriously? Do you have brains at all? He has expert advisors. He knows exactly what he is doing. It is not for your investment or pension, it is for him, his cronies, his owners and for Thier futures to grab more money and power from you yet again. But no, his is a moron. An orange baby. Stop playing identity politics and favourites and wake up. You are all being played, so much so that you have fun talking about it whiles your future is being taken away from you. Dopey or what. Um, plenty of us have said this is sinister rather than just stupid.
revolution saint Posted April 4 Posted April 4 10 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: Are tariffs a bad thing now? Whats the difference between The United States imposing tariffs on the rest of the world, & the EU imposing them on the rest of the world? Poor attempt at a strawman but it's not that black and white though (which I'm sure you already know). Even your most rabid free marketeer would recognise that tariffs can be useful and should be used in certain situations. Question is the extent and application of them rather than whether tariffs are inherently "good" or "bad".
benjii Posted April 4 Posted April 4 19 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: Are tariffs a bad thing now? Whats the difference between The United States imposing tariffs on the rest of the world, & the EU imposing them on the rest of the world? The EU ones tend to be focused and can at least be explained by economic theory. They are also discussed openly in advance, in public debates, and would usually be applied with a decent lead time to allow business to adjust. Contrast with the US announcement with hardly any implementation period, based on obvious lies about the justification, and no evidence of cogent economic thought. 4
east-stand-nic Posted April 4 Posted April 4 1 hour ago, tdmickey3 said: I know you are a laughably tragic trump fanboy but surely even you can see how utterly stupid it all is, I mean, who in their right mind puts tariffs on an island inhabited by only Penguins. Batshit mental Wow. I knew you were thick and illiterate, but you have just surpassed even you own low levels. Just wow.
revolution saint Posted April 4 Posted April 4 (edited) 8 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said: Wow. I knew you were thick and illiterate, but you have just surpassed even you own low levels. Just wow. Edited April 4 by revolution saint fail! 3
revolution saint Posted April 4 Posted April 4 1 minute ago, revolution saint said: Isn't it ironic, don't you think? 1
benjii Posted April 4 Posted April 4 41 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: Are tariffs a bad thing now? Whats the difference between The United States imposing tariffs on the rest of the world, & the EU imposing them on the rest of the world? For an example of the idiocy: 3
benjii Posted April 4 Posted April 4 China introduces 34% tariff on US imports. Presumably Trump will thank them, because yesterday he was claiming they impose a 67% tariff.
badgerx16 Posted April 4 Posted April 4 16 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said: Wow. I knew you were thick and illiterate, but you have just surpassed even you own low levels. Just wow. Oh Wise and Grest One could you explain to we thickos the rationale behind imposing import tariffs on uninhabited islands but not on North Korea or Somalia ? 1 1
badgerx16 Posted April 4 Posted April 4 1 minute ago, Guided Missile said: Latest from the Oval Office Is thst s penguin suit ? 1 2
tdmickey3 Posted April 4 Posted April 4 38 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said: Wow. I knew you were thick and illiterate, but you have just surpassed even you own low levels. Just wow. Says the froth drooling lickspittle 🤣 1
egg Posted April 4 Posted April 4 4 hours ago, trousers said: I usually check my pension fund's performance on a daily basis.... too scared to check at the moment 😲 I've just looked. I wish I hadn't. Horrific. In other news, cracking response from China. Hard to understand how Trump could take issue with 54% tariffs being met with 54% tariffs. That's actual reciprocation, not his made up bullshit. 1
spyinthesky Posted April 4 Posted April 4 (edited) In defence of Tariffs They raise prices, slow economic growth, cut profits, increase unemployment, worsen inequality, diminish productivity and increase global tensions. Other than that, they are fine. Edited April 4 by spyinthesky 2
CB Fry Posted April 4 Posted April 4 4 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said: Are tariffs a bad thing now? Whats the difference between The United States imposing tariffs on the rest of the world, & the EU imposing them on the rest of the world? Is being a "Protectionist Racket" a good thing now? Because you used to squeal like a bitch about the EU. 2
Gloucester Saint Posted April 4 Posted April 4 5 hours ago, spyinthesky said: Latest bit of Trump 'magic' Laura Loomer, that well known conspiracy theorist who actually has the honour of being accused of 'being off the scale' by Marjorie Taylor-Greene, dropped in for a fireside chat with her orange hued hero a couple of days back. She came bearing gifts ie a list of people within the Defence Dept she considered were not toeing the Trump line. As a consequence six National Security Officers were given the heave ho. Heaven help us all. Story here, anything Laura Loony thinks really ought to result in the opposite happening https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckgerl183j3o
spyinthesky Posted April 4 Posted April 4 Interesting to note that Trump used to complain that Obama took occasional time off to play golf. Trump seems to have forgotten that now and seems to fly from Washington to Florida to play golf most weekends, at considerable financial cost to the US tax payer, when the expenses of security, aero fuel etc etc are taken into account. Good old Donnie is en route for another game of golf as we speak. 2
ecuk268 Posted April 4 Posted April 4 Just read a an opinion that Donald has imposed his tariffs knowing that the stock markets would plummet. His rich mates buy up a load of cheap shares, Donald then has a change of heart, removes or reduces tariffs and the markets come back up and his mates get even richer. 1
Gloucester Saint Posted April 4 Posted April 4 Steve Rattner is really good at explaining trade and economic patterns. Basically, it’s hurting US and Canadian consumers the worst. 1 1
Patrick Bateman Posted April 4 Posted April 4 I'm still baffled by the thread title. How can anyone appreciate that prat? 1
Ex Lion Tamer Posted April 4 Posted April 4 (edited) 9 hours ago, Guided Missile said: Latest from the Oval Office A welcome return from Guided Missile, who has been rather quiet lately! Edited April 4 by Ex Lion Tamer 1
Whitey Grandad Posted April 5 Posted April 5 5 hours ago, Saint in Paradise said: Right colour for him. 1
badgerx16 Posted April 5 Posted April 5 (edited) https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy73gqq64do ICE admit this man was deported by an "administrative error", they have no documents or evidence to show he has done anything wrong, their lawyers stood up in Court and said his deportation was unjustified, but there in no intention of bringing him back to the US, which is a direct violation of a Court order issued by a Judge the White House is now attacking as a "Marxist" rather than admitting their error. The White House says that because the man is now in El Salvador, the Judge has no jurisdiction to order his return. Edited April 5 by badgerx16 1
Gloucester Saint Posted April 5 Posted April 5 I know most of MAGA aren’t housetrained in interviews but Sebastian Gorky takes uncivilised to new depths 1
whelk Posted April 5 Posted April 5 13 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said: I know most of MAGA aren’t housetrained in interviews but Sebastian Gorky takes uncivilised to new depths That bloke is consistently obnoxious to whoever interviews. No idea why the media continue to give him airtime. Guarantee this cunt is always rude to waiters 3
sadoldgit Posted April 5 Posted April 5 I have been thoroughly enjoying the contributions on this thread from the forum’s self proclaimed greatest intellect. He does seem to be struggling with issues that are not necessarily mutually exclusive however. For example, it is entirely possible for Donald Trump and his actions to be motivated by the fact that he is both “thick” and “sinister”. 1 1
sadoldgit Posted April 5 Posted April 5 On 04/04/2025 at 12:30, east-stand-nic said: Err, all of you dopey. You dislike trump so much that you don't care what he does, it is all bad no matter what and he is thick no matter what. This is exactly why he does what he does. He knows the idiots on forums will be too busy calling him names and try to out clever each other with pretend knowledge, too busy to stop and think why he is really doing these things. Stop hitting at the person. Stop, engage brain, see what they are doing and stop it. So no truth in the rumour that Trump is going to apply a 50% tariff on football forums in the UK because they are saying nasty things about him then? You really do love a conspiracy theory don’t you nic? Tell me, what can we do on TSW to stop Trump in his tracks. If we have the power, tell us how to harness it please. 1
Patrick Bateman Posted April 5 Posted April 5 5 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said: I know most of MAGA aren’t housetrained in interviews but Sebastian Gorky takes uncivilised to new depths Interesting. I mean yes, he is rude and obnoxious and a complete prick, especially the way he tries to talk down to her, BUT, BBC news people do interrupt, they are irritating. I can't remember the last time I watched a BBC news interview and didn't say "For gods sake, stop interrupting and let them speak"!
badgerx16 Posted April 5 Posted April 5 In a parallel world, every other country is getting together to create a new trade agreement that freezes the US out completely.
trousers Posted April 5 Posted April 5 3 hours ago, Patrick Bateman said: Interesting. I mean yes, he is rude and obnoxious and a complete prick, especially the way he tries to talk down to her, BUT, BBC news people do interrupt, they are irritating. I can't remember the last time I watched a BBC news interview and didn't say "For gods sake, stop interrupting and let them speak"! Victoria Derbyshire being one of the worst offenders 1
egg Posted April 5 Posted April 5 2 hours ago, badgerx16 said: In a parallel world, every other country is getting together to create a new trade agreement that freezes the US out completely. You would hope. 1
Mixedkebab Posted April 5 Posted April 5 Seems like we’re all fucked then? The idyllic, rewarding, steadily improving and financially secure lives we’ve all been living these last 17 years or so have come to an abrupt end 😞
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