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4 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

If they are ruled 'official acts' then they don't exceed the powers of his position.

As for the Constitution, any change requires a two thirds majority in both Houses, and three quarters of all State legislatures to agree.

And who rules what are "official acts"? He could order his DOJ toadie to bring charges against his potical enemies, all as an "official act" of counter terrorism.

Or pocket billions from the Saudis or Russia in exchange for highly classified documents, all as an "official act". Oh wait, he's probably already done that.

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51 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

CEO of an energy company to be head of energy. Seems an astute move. I know you’d prefer a transgender Muslim typist from the CPS to make you feel better about yourself but maybe giving people job their not suited to is the reason why you’re so relentlessly miserable. 

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17 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

So, Gaetz withdraws his nomination because the Senate won't approve his appointment.

Sounds like the replacement is a much better choice so this is probably a good thing?

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13 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Sounds like more of a classical Trump loyalist pick. Other than the Scientology, not at a lot at face value to stop a nomination succeeding through a GOP majority Senate, and I can’t see the GOP being phased by that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pam_Bondi

That's a big shame, I detest that cult. Between her and Cruise they have some magic anti aging sauce. Unbelievable that she's almost 60.

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15 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

No it doesn't, as Trump is not President until the end of January. This is just Musk posturing - the guy is a narcissist.

Is this any different to the Daily Heil campaigning against non-jobs ?

Publicly naming someone who is supposedly in a “non job” seems to be showing some serious intent. The Daily Mail is only a newspaper. Musk has been given the job of firing people.

More idiocy here

https://newsthump.com/2024/11/26/trump-supporters-to-continue-in-comforting-belief-that-china-will-pay-the-tariffs-in-same-way-mexico-paid-for-the-wall/

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c8xpzl8nnvwt

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1 hour ago, sadoldgit said:

Publicly naming someone who is supposedly in a “non job” seems to be showing some serious intent. The Daily Mail is only a newspaper. Musk has been given the job of firing people.

More idiocy here

https://newsthump.com/2024/11/26/trump-supporters-to-continue-in-comforting-belief-that-china-will-pay-the-tariffs-in-same-way-mexico-paid-for-the-wall/

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c8xpzl8nnvwt

I like the Mexicans saying that the way to combat fentanyl smuggling is for the USA to do something internally to reduce demand.

 

( And Musk won't be directly firing any Federal employees, his role is advisory ).

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Eek. Latest trump tweet is all about a caravan of drugged up criminals making their way from Mexico and Canada, and about how he is going to "charge Mexico and canada" via tariffs until they stop them.  

He seems genuinely unaware who pays what and what is going on and I wonder if he has been spaffing one off over the farage poster again.

 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, pingpong said:

Eek. Latest trump tweet is all about a caravan of drugged up criminals making their way from Mexico and Canada, and about how he is going to "charge Mexico and canada" via tariffs until they stop them.  

He seems genuinely unaware who pays what and what is going on and I wonder if he has been spaffing one off over the farage poster again.

 

 

 

Ironically border crossings are now the lowest they’ve been since 2020 and at the same levels as during Trump’s first term https://www.cbsnews.com/news/illegal-border-crossings-on-track-to-reach-biden-era-low/

His mass deportation plans will need an estimated extra border and civil officers in the magnitude of 200k. Yet Musk has been mouthing off about mass public sector posts to be axed…hmmm.

In his first term, Trump deported less illegal migrants than Obama did in his first term. 

Rhetoric vs reality. 

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On 26/11/2024 at 16:13, badgerx16 said:

I like the Mexicans saying that the way to combat fentanyl smuggling is for the USA to do something internally to reduce demand.

 

( And Musk won't be directly firing any Federal employees, his role is advisory ).

Do you think Trump has employed Musk for his advice only to ignore it when given? If Musk gives Trump a list of names of people he wants gone, if any of them lose their jobs it is down to Musk isn’t it?

Trump has brought Musk in to do a hatchet job (just as he did at X). Even if he isn’t personally firing people he will be responsible for them losing their jobs

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3 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Do you think Trump has employed Musk for his advice only to ignore it when given?

Trump will do what Trump wants to do. He could quite easily dump Musk before inauguration day - he is fickle, and doesn't like others stealing his thunder.

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I'd be surprised if Trump is in charge.

When you have a billionaire tech and media guy stood beside the president having financed the campaign, I think we know which one is pulling the strings.

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20 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

Trump will do what Trump wants to do. He could quite easily dump Musk before inauguration day - he is fickle, and doesn't like others stealing his thunder.

There’s a bit of Dominic Cummings and Boris about Musk and Trump. Huge difference in the financial aspects but given both of their habits of falling out with people very quickly, especially Trump, Musk could well become a thorn in his side rather quickly if it goes. I can’t see the tariffs sitting well with an electric vehicles manufacturer for starters.

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On 11/06/2018 at 18:03, Guided Missile said:

All the politicians, millionaire liberal "luvvies", middle class European sheep and most of the rest, were wrong about Trump. I liked him when I first read "Art of the Deal" back in 1987. Anyone that rubs politicians up the wrong way and is well on the way to achieving world peace, fair treatment for American workers and jobs for minorities is OK by me.

It just shows what a successful businessman can do, compared to a career politician.

I look forward to the Nobel Prize presentation...

Groundhog Day.

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16 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

There’s a bit of Dominic Cummings and Boris about Musk and Trump. Huge difference in the financial aspects but given both of their habits of falling out with people very quickly, especially Trump, Musk could well become a thorn in his side rather quickly if it goes. I can’t see the tariffs sitting well with an electric vehicles manufacturer for starters.

I'd be more interested in what Trump actually does rather than what he says. At the moment it looks like he's threatening the likes of Canada with harsh tariffs to try to get them to sort out their own border. Maybe he will get some action from Trudeau to the degree that large tariffs aren't needed. Will be interesting to see. 

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7 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

I'd be more interested in what Trump actually does rather than what he says. At the moment it looks like he's threatening the likes of Canada with harsh tariffs to try to get them to sort out their own border. Maybe he will get some action from Trudeau to the degree that large tariffs aren't needed. Will be interesting to see. 

America has a significant issue with the import of steel for its car manufacturing and cement for housebuilding which they are fairly reliant on Canada for after Trump put tariffs on Chinese steel and Biden extended them. It caused job losses last time. 

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9 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

America has a significant issue with the import of steel for its car manufacturing and cement for housebuilding which they are fairly reliant on Canada for after Trump put tariffs on Chinese steel and Biden extended them. It caused job losses last time. 

I'm sure there will be tradeoffs with every decision. Maybe Trump and his team will trade some job losses in car manufacturing in exchange for sorting out the border. 

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9 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I'm sure there will be tradeoffs with every decision. Maybe Trump and his team will trade some job losses in car manufacturing in exchange for sorting out the border. 

The southern border is their biggest problem in terms of what he’s been elected on immigration-wise, so less surprised he’s picked a fight there. Canada seems a less obvious one and they also have the means to push back. 

I think his main focus is Chinese economic expansion tbh. I’m not fussed about Americans paying more for their household goods and electronics, that’s their choice. But inflation usually follows major trade disputes which ripples globally.

As you say, a few weeks until he’s inaugurated and seeing what’s rhetoric (most) and actions.

An interesting break from the main board where there’s conflict aplenty. 

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I read somewhere that Joe had pardoned his son after all even though he had said in the past that he wouldn't.

I expect that will annoy the Republicans BUT IF he really wanted to annoy them he should now pardon that convicted

felon Donald J Trump 😁

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4 minutes ago, Saint in Paradise said:

I read somewhere that Joe had pardoned his son after all even though he had said in the past that he wouldn't.

I expect that will annoy the Republicans BUT IF he really wanted to annoy them he should now pardon that convicted

felon Donald J Trump 😁

He has https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c4ngnw2qr01t

Although Trump has called it 'an abuse and miscarriage of justice' 🤦‍♂️

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5 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

I don't think Democrats who don't speak up and oppose this can ever really claim to have the moral high ground again. Just bizarre the power a president has though. Able to just commute any crime based on what they feel like. This pardon is also a blanket one for any crimes committed over the past decade. Extraordinary that someone can just do whatever they like and then just get their crimes forgiven like that. 

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Posted
8 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I don't think Democrats who don't speak up and oppose this can ever really claim to have the moral high ground again. Just bizarre the power a president has though. Able to just commute any crime based on what they feel like. This pardon is also a blanket one for any crimes committed over the past decade. Extraordinary that someone can just do whatever they like and then just get their crimes forgiven like that. 

That has always been the case with Presidential pardons though and is part of the constitution.

That being said, the pardoned person doesn't have to accept the pardon....

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3 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

That has always been the case with Presidential pardons though and is part of the constitution.

That being said, the pardoned person doesn't have to accept the pardon....

Yes i understand that but as I understand it I bthe past there were certain understandings that the power wouldn't be abused. I just find the whole thing odd and certainly as a brit the idea that if you do a crime you should accept the concept of fair play and take your punishment like a man is part of our psyche 

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21 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

I thought that he had appointed east stand nic when I first saw this headline.

https://www.rawstory.com/amp/trump-disaster-kash-patel-fbi-2670246884

You silly old fascist. Still feeling from everyone seeing thru your awful fascist and double standard views? You are the worst of humanity, wanting everyone to agree with your views and silence those who opposed your views. Utter fascist.

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30 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said:

You silly old fascist. Still feeling from everyone seeing thru your awful fascist and double standard views? You are the worst of humanity, wanting everyone to agree with your views and silence those who opposed your views. Utter fascist.

Bless you nic. I would say that you have lost the plot, but you never really had the plot in the first place. The pantomime season has started early this year.

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30 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Bless you nic. I would say that you have lost the plot, but you never really had the plot in the first place. The pantomime season has started early this year.

Yep, back to your normal ways. Let's face it, 90% of the people on here know you are nasty bitter old racist and fascist. You fool some of the people but not those of us with eyes to see through your awful in-humane ways.

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54 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said:

Yep, back to your normal ways. Let's face it, 90% of the people on here know you are nasty bitter old racist and fascist. You fool some of the people but not those of us with eyes to see through your awful in-humane ways.

Wow, you really are a strange one. Anyway, have you found any evidence that I called Trump a warmonger yet or can we just accept that you are concocting more rubbish just to support more of your conspiracy theories?

instead of posting laughing emojis, back up your claim that I called Trump a warmonger or admit you are a bs merchant.

Like all conspiracy theorists you are a fantasist nic. Do yourself a favour and come back and live in the real world.

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On 02/12/2024 at 08:49, east-stand-nic said:

Yep, back to your normal ways. Let's face it, 90% of the people on here know you are nasty bitter old racist and fascist. You fool some of the people but not those of us with eyes to see through your awful in-humane ways.

Having read your post again nic, you have made some deeply unpleasant claims against me. So as well as providing evidence of your claim that I called Trump a warmonger years ago, here is another task for you. As you are so certain, there must be plenty of evidence out there for you to use.

Evidence please that I am

a) Racist and

b) Fascist

And by evidence I don’t mean repeating posts from Turkish and his mates. You need to display my posts where I have displayed racism and fascism.

Good luck.

Instead of posting laughing emojis perhaps you would like to back up your claims.
 

 

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I'd be amazed if Trump really is going to unleash hell on everyone committing atrocities in the Middle East.

It's just more attention-seeking from the orange sex offender - no way is the US declaring war on Israel next year.

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On 02/12/2024 at 08:49, east-stand-nic said:

Yep, back to your normal ways. Let's face it, 90% of the people on here know you are nasty bitter old racist and fascist. You fool some of the people but not those of us with eyes to see through your awful in-humane ways.

Come on nic. I have been waiting patiently for you to provide evidence that I called Trump a warmonger and that I am a racist and a fascist.

Clearly you fastidiously research everything you post about here as all conspiracy theorist do when they post on social media and must has cast iron evidence for you claims. Let’s see it please.

Here are a few clues that might throw some shade on your claims though. The anti woke brigade constantly dig out my posts/me for being woke. Those who support woke issues tend to be anti racism and anti fascism. Most of my posts on this forum over the years are critical of racists, fascists and far right extremists.

Show me a poster who the Usual Suspect Pile On crowd here get upset so frequently about who is a racist and a fascist. Here’s a clue nic. There aren’t any.

Oh, and posting a laughing emoji really doesn’t help prove your claims.

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31 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Come on nic. I have been waiting patiently for you to provide evidence that I called Trump a warmonger and that I am a racist and a fascist.

Clearly you fastidiously research everything you post about here as all conspiracy theorist do when they post on social media and must has cast iron evidence for you claims. Let’s see it please.

Here are a few clues that might throw some shade on your claims though. The anti woke brigade constantly dig out my posts/me for being woke. Those who support woke issues tend to be anti racism and anti fascism. Most of my posts on this forum over the years are critical of racists, fascists and far right extremists.

Show me a poster who the Usual Suspect Pile On crowd here get upset so frequently about who is a racist and a fascist. Here’s a clue nic. There aren’t any.

Oh, and posting a laughing emoji really doesn’t help prove your claims.

FACT CHECK. Most of your posts on this forum over the years have been accusing everyone who doesn't 100% align with your weird view of the world, racist, far right extremists. 

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1 hour ago, sadoldgit said:

Come on nic. I have been waiting patiently for you to provide evidence that I called Trump a warmonger and that I am a racist and a fascist.

Clearly you fastidiously research everything you post about here as all conspiracy theorist do when they post on social media and must has cast iron evidence for you claims. Let’s see it please.

Here are a few clues that might throw some shade on your claims though. The anti woke brigade constantly dig out my posts/me for being woke. Those who support woke issues tend to be anti racism and anti fascism. Most of my posts on this forum over the years are critical of racists, fascists and far right extremists.

Show me a poster who the Usual Suspect Pile On crowd here get upset so frequently about who is a racist and a fascist. Here’s a clue nic. There aren’t any.

Oh, and posting a laughing emoji really doesn’t help prove your claims.

So, I guess you will also find a way to defend Biden for saving his son with a pardon yes? Not over using his powers?

I am not going to play your silly games you silly fascist. We all know you said it, and I am not about to go through 50K posts to find it. You know you said it, I know you said it, loads of people know you said it. You need to see that most people on here have seen right through your pious acts and know you to be a racist, fascist, double standards jackass.

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On 02/12/2024 at 07:26, hypochondriac said:

I don't think Democrats who don't speak up and oppose this can ever really claim to have the moral high ground again. Just bizarre the power a president has though. Able to just commute any crime based on what they feel like. This pardon is also a blanket one for any crimes committed over the past decade. Extraordinary that someone can just do whatever they like and then just get their crimes forgiven like that. 

Biden getting as much hammer from Dems as the GOP. Rightly so https://www.newsweek.com/list-democrats-criticize-joe-biden-pardon-son-hunter-1994237

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