Donald Trump Appreciation Thread

[Whitey Grandad]

5 hours ago, whelk said:

better?

Brilliant, thank you. And it’s very smart work. 
 

is it real? 🥴

[badgerx16]

31 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

 

is it real? 🥴

Trump may have claimed "This is great TV", but that would have been award winning.

[badgerx16]

[badgerx16]

The orange man baby is apparently holding talks today with his advisors as to whether the US will cut military aid to Ukraine, including shipments already in the pipeline having been authorised by President Biden.

 

[east-stand-nic]

11 hours ago, Saint Billy said:

Been swatting up on Tick Tock have we you little tinker.

Nope. Unlike you dumb lot, I look at the big picture. I don't just stare myopically at the TV MSM channels and say, 'Ah, so that's it, is it'. Fools like you all on here are the problem with the world. So many stupid people unable to research. This is of course what the powers that be, wanted you to be so well done for being good little boys for them. The world will never become the harmonious place it should be until everyone learns not to listen to MSN BS. Sadly, while you lot are all part of the world with your sub 100 IQ's, we are doomed. I shall not be replying again as not a one of you is worthy of debate. You will only believe what you want to believe and refuse ever to accept other possibilities. The definition of thick.

[Saint Billy]

45 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said:

Nope. Unlike you dumb lot, I look at the big picture. I don't just stare myopically at the TV MSM channels and say, 'Ah, so that's it, is it'. Fools like you all on here are the problem with the world. So many stupid people unable to research. This is of course what the powers that be, wanted you to be so well done for being good little boys for them. The world will never become the harmonious place it should be until everyone learns not to listen to MSN BS. Sadly, while you lot are all part of the world with your sub 100 IQ's, we are doomed. I shall not be replying again as not a one of you is worthy of debate. You will only believe what you want to believe and refuse ever to accept other possibilities. The definition of thick.

You'll be missed.

[CB Fry]

1 hour ago, east-stand-nic said:

Nope. Unlike you dumb lot, I look at the big picture. I don't just stare myopically at the TV MSM channels and say, 'Ah, so that's it, is it'. Fools like you all on here are the problem with the world. So many stupid people unable to research. This is of course what the powers that be, wanted you to be so well done for being good little boys for them. The world will never become the harmonious place it should be until everyone learns not to listen to MSN BS. Sadly, while you lot are all part of the world with your sub 100 IQ's, we are doomed. I shall not be replying again as not a one of you is worthy of debate. You will only believe what you want to believe and refuse ever to accept other possibilities. The definition of thick.

And then he used the word "research" for doom scrolling YouTube conspiracy horseshit. 

Truly, the definition of thick.

 

[east-stand-nic]

1 hour ago, CB Fry said:

And then he used the word "research" for doom scrolling YouTube conspiracy horseshit. 

Truly, the definition of thick.

 

Yes, because people who research are thicker than those who merrily accept all they see on the Box. Jeez, you have just proven that I am way out of your league for intellect. Thanks.

[badgerx16]

Just now, east-stand-nic said:

Yes, because people who research are thicker than those who merrily accept all they see on the Box. Jeez, you have just proven that I am way out of your league for intellect. Thanks.

"I shall not be replying again as not a one of you is worthy of debate."..........Yeah, right.

 

Why can't you just fuck off permanently.

[badgerx16]

Donald Trump's "peace" plan;

Hold face to face peace talks.......with Russia only

Stop cyber activity against Russia

Publicly berate Zelensky

Stop arms shipments to Ukraine

 

So very impartial. Putin says "JUMP !", Trump asks "How high ?"

[east-stand-nic]

1 hour ago, badgerx16 said:

"I shall not be replying again as not a one of you is worthy of debate."..........Yeah, right.

 

Why can't you just fuck off permanently.

You are clearly part of that awful snowflake group who want to silence anyone with an opinion different to yours. You are a dictator as much as you claim Putin is. Accept different views and be respectful, then I will. Simple isn't it. Just like your thought processes.

[badgerx16]

4 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said:

You are clearly part of that awful snowflake group who want to silence anyone with an opinion different to yours. You are a dictator as much as you claim Putin is. Accept different views and be respectful, then I will. Simple isn't it. Just like your thought processes.

In what way have YOU ever demonstrated respect to other posters ?

[sadoldgit]

Both Russia and the US guaranteed Ukraine’s security in return for them giving up nukes. Russia invaded Ukraine and now the US are selling them down the river. Some “deal” hey Donny?

As for you nutty nic, you say you don’t support Trump but you constantly post laughing emojis when someone slags him or Musk off. Trump and Musk both like a conspiracy theory, as do you. You say that you have a great intellect but you have the intellect of a wooden chair. 
 

…

Nic, when are you going to realise that posting laughing emojis in supposed defence of your position doesn’t actually do anything other than make you look like a total twat.

Edited yesterday at 10:04 by sadoldgit
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[egg]

A long one but worth a read, and a nice antidote to nic's ramblings:

Former President of Poland Lech Walesa wrote the following letter to Trump.

Your Excellency, Mr. President,

We watched the report of your conversation with the President of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelensky, with fear and distaste. We find it insulting that you expect Ukraine to show respect and gratitude for the material assistance provided by the United States in its fight against russia. Gratitude is owed to the heroic Ukrainian soldiers who shed their blood in defense of the values of the free world. They have been dying on the front lines for more than 11 years in the name of these values and the independence of their homeland, which was attacked by Putin’s russia.

We do not understand how the leader of a country that symbolizes the free world cannot recognize this.

Our alarm was also heightened by the atmosphere in the Oval Office during this conversation, which reminded us of the interrogations we endured at the hands of the Security Services and the debates in Communist courts. Prosecutors and judges, acting on behalf of the all-powerful communist political police, would explain to us that they held all the power while we held none. They demanded that we cease our activities, arguing that thousands of innocent people suffered because of us. They stripped us of our freedoms and civil rights because we refused to cooperate with the government or express gratitude for our oppression. We are shocked that President Volodymyr Zelensky was treated in the same manner.

The history of the 20th century shows that whenever the United States sought to distance itself from democratic values and its European allies, it ultimately became a threat to itself. President Woodrow Wilson understood this when he decided in 1917 that the United States must join World War I. President Franklin Delano Roosevelt understood this when, after the attack on Pearl Harbor in December 1941, he resolved that the war to defend America must be fought not only in the Pacific but also in Europe, in alliance with the nations under attack by the Third Reich.

We remember that without President Ronald Reagan and America’s financial commitment, the collapse of the Soviet empire would not have been possible. President Reagan recognized that millions of enslaved people suffered in Soviet russia and the countries it had subjugated, including thousands of political prisoners who paid for their defense of democratic values with their freedom. His greatness lay, among other things, in his unwavering decision to call the USSR an “Empire of Evil” and to fight it decisively. We won, and today, the statue of President Ronald Reagan stands in Warsaw, facing the U.S. Embassy.

Mr. President, material aid—military and financial—can never be equated with the blood shed in the name of Ukraine’s independence and the freedom of Europe and the entire free world. Human life is priceless; its value cannot be measured in money. Gratitude is due to those who sacrifice their blood and their freedom. This is self-evident to us, the people of Solidarity, former political prisoners of the communist regime under Soviet russia.

We call on the United States to uphold the guarantees made alongside Great Britain in the 1994 Budapest Memorandum, which established a direct obligation to defend Ukraine’s territorial integrity in exchange for its relinquishment of nuclear weapons. These guarantees are unconditional—there is no mention of treating such assistance as an economic transaction.

Signed,

Lech Wałęsa, former political prisoner, President of Poland

[whelk]

21 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said:

You are clearly part of that awful snowflake group who want to silence anyone with an opinion different to yours. You are a dictator as much as you claim Putin is. Accept different views and be respectful, then I will. Simple isn't it. Just like your thought processes.

Like this thick arrogant cunt deserves respect. Came to my attention with ‘ I’ve flown more than anyone line’

Fuck off to your lady boys you sad fucker

[egg]

And a reminder why De Niro is one of my favourite actors:

 

 

Edited yesterday at 09:42 by egg

[badgerx16]

Trump wants to go down in history as the man who stopped the war. However, his legacy is far more likely to be the man who sold his allies down the river and condemned them to subjugation by a hostile neighbour, all in the name of "The Deal".

[Turkish]

@egg he is incredible, a brilliant list of films, parts and performances across best part of 50 years. 

[leesaint88]

22 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Trump wants to go down in history as the man who stopped the war. However, his legacy is far more likely to be the man who sold his allies down the river and condemned them to subjugation by a hostile neighbour, all in the name of "The Deal".

To an extent. I think the hostility on the US part is to force Europe into heavier defence spending, which they've managed to do so far..

[sadoldgit]

31 minutes ago, egg said:

A long one but worth a read, and a nice antidote to nic's ramblings:

Former President of Poland Lech Walesa wrote the following letter to Trump.

Your Excellency, Mr. President,

We watched the report of your conversation with the President of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelensky, with fear and distaste. We find it insulting that you expect Ukraine to show respect and gratitude for the material assistance provided by the United States in its fight against russia. Gratitude is owed to the heroic Ukrainian soldiers who shed their blood in defense of the values of the free world. They have been dying on the front lines for more than 11 years in the name of these values and the independence of their homeland, which was attacked by Putin’s russia.

We do not understand how the leader of a country that symbolizes the free world cannot recognize this.

Our alarm was also heightened by the atmosphere in the Oval Office during this conversation, which reminded us of the interrogations we endured at the hands of the Security Services and the debates in Communist courts. Prosecutors and judges, acting on behalf of the all-powerful communist political police, would explain to us that they held all the power while we held none. They demanded that we cease our activities, arguing that thousands of innocent people suffered because of us. They stripped us of our freedoms and civil rights because we refused to cooperate with the government or express gratitude for our oppression. We are shocked that President Volodymyr Zelensky was treated in the same manner.

The history of the 20th century shows that whenever the United States sought to distance itself from democratic values and its European allies, it ultimately became a threat to itself. President Woodrow Wilson understood this when he decided in 1917 that the United States must join World War I. President Franklin Delano Roosevelt understood this when, after the attack on Pearl Harbor in December 1941, he resolved that the war to defend America must be fought not only in the Pacific but also in Europe, in alliance with the nations under attack by the Third Reich.

We remember that without President Ronald Reagan and America’s financial commitment, the collapse of the Soviet empire would not have been possible. President Reagan recognized that millions of enslaved people suffered in Soviet russia and the countries it had subjugated, including thousands of political prisoners who paid for their defense of democratic values with their freedom. His greatness lay, among other things, in his unwavering decision to call the USSR an “Empire of Evil” and to fight it decisively. We won, and today, the statue of President Ronald Reagan stands in Warsaw, facing the U.S. Embassy.

Mr. President, material aid—military and financial—can never be equated with the blood shed in the name of Ukraine’s independence and the freedom of Europe and the entire free world. Human life is priceless; its value cannot be measured in money. Gratitude is due to those who sacrifice their blood and their freedom. This is self-evident to us, the people of Solidarity, former political prisoners of the communist regime under Soviet russia.

We call on the United States to uphold the guarantees made alongside Great Britain in the 1994 Budapest Memorandum, which established a direct obligation to defend Ukraine’s territorial integrity in exchange for its relinquishment of nuclear weapons. These guarantees are unconditional—there is no mention of treating such assistance as an economic transaction.

Signed,

Lech Wałęsa, former political prisoner, President of Poland

Brilliant. Good to see someone with the balls to say what is needed. The trouble is trying to appeal to Trump’s better nature or any level of morality and conscience will always fail because he doesn’t have any.

When this started the line from the West was that Putin couldn’t be allowed to win. Not only is Trump prepared for him to win, he will allow him to win bigger by making NATO weaker. And Farage is still kissing his backside.

[sadoldgit]

4 minutes ago, leesaint88 said:

To an extent. I think the hostility on the US part is to force Europe into heavier defence spending, which they've managed to do so far..

Sucking up to Putin in order to get Europe to spend more on defence is one hell of a strategy.

[egg]

6 minutes ago, leesaint88 said:

To an extent. I think the hostility on the US part is to force Europe into heavier defence spending, which they've managed to do so far..

I agree, but, he's not as stupid as he seems, and will know the danger of emboldening Putin. He's done that, but why? Don't get me wrong, I agree with him that the European mantra of "we need the US" makes us look weaker ain't helping the situation. 

[sadoldgit]

The US version of east-stand-nic.

And this from the man who changed his holiday arrangements because some people were protesting about his actions. Tough guy.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14459091/amp/JD-Vance-Keir-Starmer-coalition-willing-secure-Ukraine-troops-random-country-war.html

Iraq. Afghanistan. Has Vance even said “thank you”.

Meanwhile

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-14456579/Fiscal-heart-attack-looms-US-Donald-Trumps-spending-plans-warns-fund-manager.html

Edited yesterday at 10:46 by sadoldgit

[badgerx16]

31 minutes ago, leesaint88 said:

To an extent. I think the hostility on the US part is to force Europe into heavier defence spending, which they've managed to do so far..

Sacrificing Ukrainians to make a point. Brilliant plan.

And now they are talking of easing the sanctions on Russia.

[aintforever]

1 hour ago, east-stand-nic said:

You are clearly part of that awful snowflake group who want to silence anyone with an opinion different to yours. You are a dictator as much as you claim Putin is. Accept different views and be respectful, then I will. Simple isn't it. Just like your thought processes.

Think people might take you a bit more seriously if you didn’t post mental theories that you say involves a cover up from the ‘mainstream media’, then post a link from the BBC as some sort of evidence.

Your theory is about as bat-shit crazy as the vaccine theories that were going around. Keep posting though because you are piss funny, I actually find it fascinating how people come to believe this shit.

[whelk]

Fuck it let’s get on to China and say you are welcome to be our ally and forge a new special relationship with us

[sadoldgit]

I remember very well the piss taking that went on against Ronald Reagan during his two terms as POTUS. There was a classic joke on Not The Nine O’Clock News - The US are going to make up for being late into WW1 and WW2 by being early for the next one. Hard to believe now that the Kremlin are saying that they and the US are “aligned” and that the US are supporting Russia over their supposed allies.

[benjii]

1 hour ago, badgerx16 said:

Trump wants to go down in history as the man who stopped the war. However, his legacy is far more likely to be the man who sold his allies down the river and condemned them to subjugation by a hostile neighbour, all in the name of "The Deal".

And the man who destroyed the US domestically to enrich a few buddies and himself.

[benjii]

18 minutes ago, whelk said:

Fuck it let’s get on to China and say you are welcome to be our ally and forge a new special relationship with us

Yep. Tell them to fuck off N Korea and Russia though.

The reality is that Mafia Don is handing them the world on a plate. It is clear that no one, other than Russia and Israel, can depend on the US for anything any more.

[rallyboy]

2 hours ago, east-stand-nic said:

You are a dictator as much as you claim Putin is. 

Yes, we all remember that thread where Badger annexed Crimea, bombed Mariupol to rubble, ordered the killing of all posters who disagreed with him, many of whom fell out of top floor windows, and killed an innocent women in Salisbury in a botched poison attack. Putting his war crimes aside though, Badger's worst offence was riding around St Mary's bare-chested on a New Forest pony for a press shot. It's easy to understand why many posters on here agree with Nic and consider Badgerx16 to be the worst war criminal of the 21st century.     And if anyone wants to declare themselves as a thick cunt, just post a confused emoji here. 

[badgerx16]

11 minutes ago, rallyboy said:

Badger's worst offence was riding around St Mary's bare-chested on a New Forest pony for a press shot.

It was bloody chilly that day as well.

[The Kraken]

Quite interested to hear which publications and periodicals I should be paying attention to if MSM is such a no go. 

[sadoldgit]

2 hours ago, east-stand-nic said:

You are clearly part of that awful snowflake group who want to silence anyone with an opinion different to yours. You are a dictator as much as you claim Putin is. Accept different views and be respectful, then I will. Simple isn't it. Just like your thought processes.

Define “an awful snowflake group” please. Would they be people who disagree with unfounded conspiracy theories?

Calling someone on a football forum a dictator as much as Putin is makes you look beyond stupid. Sadly you can’t see that.

When have you ever respected different views? Just how many laughing emojis have you posted on other people’s posts that are different to your views?

When have you ever shown any respect to people with different views to you?

You end the post with another disrespectful comment.

You have no self awareness. You are a hypocrite. You are gullible and easily fooled. You believe that you are superior but have yet to post anything other than that which makes you look like someone who parrots conspiracy theories because you want to be seen as someone who knows things the rest of us don’t. It doesn’t work mate.

[whelk]

I loathe this red neck cunt

[badgerx16]

2 minutes ago, whelk said:

I loathe this red neck cunt

Vance lives in a fantasy world of "alternative facts". He was the only VP option thicker than Trump.

Edited yesterday at 12:15 by badgerx16

[whelk]

Why are you lot giving the resident moron such long replies?

Just wind him up tell him to change his diet. Ooooh I’m so vile

[Baird of the land]

17 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

The orange man baby is apparently holding talks today with his advisors as to whether the US will cut military aid to Ukraine, including shipments already in the pipeline having been authorised by President Biden.

 

It was the obvious lever to pull, given US main priority is recouping/cutting investment in the conflict and Ukraine is still very much on the unlikely punish russia definition of peace.

[leesaint88]

2 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

Sacrificing Ukrainians to make a point. Brilliant plan.

And now they are talking of easing the sanctions on Russia.

He knows the Russian economy isn't as rosy as Putin likes to make out, especially now you have the domestic banks refusing to take on more debt. 

Ukraine will still receive ammunition even from the US, it's the donation of arms or that through Lendlease which has been stopped. Ukraine does have signed defence contracts with the US which gives it the right to purchase weaponry.   

 

[badgerx16]

14 minutes ago, leesaint88 said:

He knows the Russian economy isn't as rosy as Putin likes to make out, especially now you have the domestic banks refusing to take on more debt. 

Ukraine will still receive ammunition even from the US, it's the donation of arms or that through Lendlease which has been stopped. Ukraine does have signed defence contracts with the US which gives it the right to purchase weaponry.   

 

So far, all Trump's concessions and changes have been in Putin's favour. What pressure is being put on Putin to force him into meaningful negotiations? At this rate he wins everything he set out to gain.

Edited yesterday at 13:08 by badgerx16

[Baird of the land]

5 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

So far, all Trump's concessions and changes have been in Putin's favour. What pressure is being put on Putin to force him into meaningful negotiations? At this rate he wins everything he set out to gain.

Was the point of the masses of existing sanctions on Russia not to put pressure on Russia.

[Weston Super Saint]

Not sure what the problem is.

Europe apparently holds £200bn of Russian assets. I'll bet that will buy enough weapons from the US to keep Trump happy and Putin where he belongs. Not sure what has been happening with those assets for the last 2-3 years but I'll put money on a lot of people getting rich(er) off them...

[badgerx16]

49 minutes ago, Baird of the land said:

Was the point of the masses of existing sanctions on Russia not to put pressure on Russia.

And how much meaningful negotiation between Russia and Ukraine has so far taken place ? How much has Russia scaled back on it's rhetoric and war aims ? Every move Trump makes brings praise from the Kremlin because it is in their favour. You don't calm a rabid dog by feeding it treats.

Edited yesterday at 14:03 by badgerx16

[egg]

46 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Not sure what the problem is.

Europe apparently holds £200bn of Russian assets. I'll bet that will buy enough weapons from the US to keep Trump happy and Putin where he belongs. Not sure what has been happening with those assets for the last 2-3 years but I'll put money on a lot of people getting rich(er) off them...

There was a bit about that on Times Radio earlier. Essentially, would be easy for us to take the cash if we want to, but for reasons unexplained, there's no political will to do so. One explanation is that Russia will get it back. 

[Weston Super Saint]

12 minutes ago, egg said:

There was a bit about that on Times Radio earlier. Essentially, would be easy for us to take the cash if we want to, but for reasons unexplained, there's no political will to do so. One explanation is that Russia will get it back. 

Which seems counter productive!

We'll seize the assets, but only for a little while, then we'll give them all back!

Will UK plc be returning Chelsea back to Abramovich?

[hypochondriac]

45 minutes ago, egg said:

There was a bit about that on Times Radio earlier. Essentially, would be easy for us to take the cash if we want to, but for reasons unexplained, there's no political will to do so. One explanation is that Russia will get it back. 

I can't remember his name but the American that Putin hates and who wrote a great book on the subject has been urging leaders to do this for ages and can't explain why it hasn't been done already. 

[egg]

32 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Which seems counter productive!

We'll seize the assets, but only for a little while, then we'll give them all back!

Will UK plc be returning Chelsea back to Abramovich?

Couldn't agree more, but when you look at it alongside the minerals 'deal' it makes you wonder if the US really feels that they should be paid back (disgraceful that they do) then there's cash sat there, and the mineral deal for monies spent to date is unnecessary. 

The whole thing stinks to high heaven. 

[egg]

3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I can't remember his name but the American that Putin hates and who wrote a great book on the subject has been urging leaders to do this for ages and can't explain why it hasn't been done already. 

I didn't catch the name of the fella in Times, but he was American, and professed to be an expert on the issue. May have been the same person. 

[Baird of the land]

48 minutes ago, egg said:

There was a bit about that on Times Radio earlier. Essentially, would be easy for us to take the cash if we want to, but for reasons unexplained, there's no political will to do so. One explanation is that Russia will get it back. 

Not that hard to understand their are risks in terms of global financial market from taking the money from countries we don't like.

[badgerx16]

8 minutes ago, egg said:

Couldn't agree more, but when you look at it alongside the minerals 'deal' it makes you wonder if the US really feels that they should be paid back (disgraceful that they do) then there's cash sat there, and the mineral deal for monies spent to date is unnecessary. 

The whole thing stinks to high heaven. 

Trump's "deal" focused brain doesn't believe in charity or altruism. There always has to be something in it for him, preferably with the balance of the exchange being in his favour.

[hypochondriac]

10 minutes ago, egg said:

I didn't catch the name of the fella in Times, but he was American, and professed to be an expert on the issue. May have been the same person. 

Looked him up. Was it bill browder? Red notice is well worth a read.