Donald Trump Appreciation Thread

[east-stand-nic]

I will reply when tomorrow i have more time. But it is clear you are all far to entrenched and myopic to see anything other than your own view from the BBC etc.

[badgerx16]

10 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said:

I will reply when tomorrow i have more time. But it is clear you are all far to entrenched and myopic to see anything other than your own view from the BBC etc.

I won't hold my breath.

[CB Fry]

30 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said:

I will reply when tomorrow i have more time. But it is clear you are all far to entrenched and myopic to see anything other than your own view from the BBC etc.

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[spyinthesky]

2 hours ago, egg said:

Absolutely. The US have shown that partners can be unreliable, and Hungary are about as loyal as Judas. 

Despite the fact that Hungary has benefitted from EU membership and suffered a Russian invasion in 1956.

 

[hypochondriac]

1 hour ago, east-stand-nic said:

I will reply when tomorrow i have more time. But it is clear you are all far to entrenched and myopic to see anything other than your own view from the BBC etc.

Mods can we lock this thread until we get this hot take tomorrow? Hardly seems worth continuing until then. 

[whelk]

2 hours ago, east-stand-nic said:

I will reply when tomorrow i have more time. But it is clear you are all far to entrenched and myopic to see anything other than your own view from the BBC etc.

Only as it is you, a self-proclaimed genius. It’s ’too’

[woksaintly]

Saw this on Facebook attributed to Volodynyr Vlad Kuto

I’m calling it as it is. I dont care whether you agree with me or not, just check your response with your gut. My gut never lies to me.

I’ve had my suspicions all along about this stooge. He’s not intelligent enough to pull this off by himself. We better hope that all the social security numbers and tax info that Muskrat just uploaded from SSA and IRS from every single american citizens account, doesn’t end up in Putin’s files. Whoever has that info can potentially wipe out every dime we have and can potentially fund a world takeover:

There is something rancid in America, a slow, creeping rot that smells like cold McDonald’s fries, aerosol hairspray, and the unmistakable musk of a country too sedated to recognize its own hostage situation. For years, the idea that Donald Trump was compromised by Russia was dismissed as paranoid fantasy—just another wild-eyed conspiracy theory, another overblown headline in the endless saga of American political dysfunction.

But now, two former Soviet intelligence officers—Alnur Mussayev and Yuri Shvets—are saying it outright: Trump was recruited by the KGB in 1987, groomed as an asset, and remains under Russian control to this day.

And the worst part? He’s already back in the White House.

That’s right, America. You did it. You walked face-first into the banana peel of history, slipped, and fell straight into the arms of Vladimir Putin. Trump was kicked out in 2020, spent four years plotting his comeback, and now he’s returned, like a bloated, orange cockroach that just won’t die. The Kremlin’s favorite stooge is running the country again, and this time, he knows exactly how to stay in power.

If you think this is just another round of the Trump Show, you’re not paying attention. This isn’t politics anymore. This is treason. This is foreign subversion. This is a goddamn coup in slow motion.

Let’s break it down, nice and simple.

Alnur Mussayev isn’t some Twitter conspiracy theorist with a tinfoil hat and a podcast. He’s the former head of Kazakhstan’s National Security Committee, which means he knows exactly how Russian intelligence works—because he was part of the system. And what he’s saying should make every American’s blood run cold.

According to Mussayev, Trump was identified, recruited, and compromised by the KGB in 1987 during his first trip to Moscow. They saw him for what he was: a narcissistic, greedy, attention-starved buffoon who could be easily manipulated. The KGB flattered him, promised him business deals, and planted the seeds of political ambition in his empty little head. And from that moment on, he was their man.

But Mussayev isn’t alone. Former KGB major Yuri Shvets said the exact same thing in 2021: Trump was cultivated by Soviet intelligence because he was an easy mark—too stupid to realize he was being played, too egotistical to care. They saw him as a useful idiot—a man who could one day be nudged into power, a walking, talking Trojan Horse for Russian interests.

And now? The plan has worked. Trump spent four years in office weakening America from within, got booted out, and now he’s back for round two.

If you had told the American public in 1962 that a Soviet-backed asset would one day sit in the White House, they would have burned Washington to the ground before letting it happen. But today? Nobody seems to care.

The media treats this like just another wacky subplot in the never-ending Trump reality show. Congress is too busy fighting over meaningless culture war nonsense to do anything about it. And the American public? Exhausted. Numb. Checked out. Years of scandals—Russia collusion, Ukraine blackmail, classified documents, tax fraud, sexual assault, an attempted coup—have fried the country’s brain like an overcooked steak at Mar-a-Lago.

Trump has done the impossible. He has committed so many crimes, so openly, so brazenly, that none of them matter anymore.

And now, with Mussayev’s revelation that Trump is an active foreign asset, we have finally reached the point where the biggest political scandal in American history is met with a collective shrug.

This is how democracy dies—not with a bang, but with a goddamn eye-roll.

This is the part where the skeptics start clutching their pearls. “Oh, come on,” they say. “If Trump were really a Russian asset, wouldn’t there be more proof?”

To which I say: Are you blind, or just willfully stupid?

Let’s go through the evidence, shall we?

Trump spent his entire first term doing exactly what Russia wanted. He attacked NATO, calling it “obsolete” and threatening to pull the U.S. out. He tried to blackmail Ukraine into manufacturing dirt on Joe Biden, because weakening Ukraine helps one man and one man only: Vladimir Putin. He pulled U.S. troops out of Syria, handing power over to Russian forces. He picked fights with Canada and Europe while cozying up to dictators.

Even now, in his second term, he is more openly pro-Putin than ever. He has made it clear that he will not protect NATO allies from Russian aggression. He is actively dismantling America’s alliances, just as Russia planned. And while Americans scream at each other over whether Target should sell rainbow t-shirts, Trump is quietly selling the country to the Kremlin.

At some point, you have to stop calling it a coincidence and start calling it what it is: treason.

The United States is running out of time. If Trump serves out this term without being removed, America as a functioning democracy is finished.

The media needs to wake up. Enough with the “Trump fatigue” excuse. This is not just another scandal—this is the single greatest infiltration of American power in history. Journalists need to dig into Mussayev’s claims, demand declassification of intelligence files, and treat this like the national emergency that it is.

Congress needs to subpoena Mussayev immediately. His testimony must be public, and every document he has should be reviewed. If there is proof that Trump has been compromised since the 1980s, the American people need to know.

The Justice Department needs to stop pretending that Trump is just another politician. If there is evidence that the sitting president of the United States is working in Russia’s interests, he must be removed from office and prosecuted for espionage.

And the American public? You have one last chance. This is not about Republican vs. Democrat. This is not about taxes, gas prices, or whatever nonsense outrage is dominating the news today. This is about whether the United States remains a sovereign nation, or if we spend the rest of the century as a Russian client state with a golf course.

The sheer volume of Trump's corruption, the blatant nature of his crimes, the mountain of evidence that should have ended his political career a hundred times over—none of it mattered. He survived it all, not because he was innocent, but because he drowned the country in so much scandal that nothing stuck.

But this time, it’s different. If Mussayev and Shvets are right, this isn’t just another chapter in the endless Trump circus. This is the culmination of a decades-long Russian intelligence operation to install an asset in the White House.

There is no coming back from this. If America lets Trump serve out this term without removing him, then the United States as a democratic republic is finished. The country won’t collapse overnight. There won’t be tanks in the streets. Instead, the destruction of democracy will happen in slow motion—buried under lawsuits, propaganda, and corruption so blatant that people stop caring.

If America lets this happen—if Trump is allowed to complete his mission—then Putin wins. The West crumbles. And the people who could have stopped it will look back, years from now, and wonder how they let it happen.

Good night, and good luck. Because if people don’t wake up, America is going to sleepwalk straight into its own funeral.

[badgerx16]

Has Woksaintly stolen Nic's thunder ?

[Whitey Grandad]

It would explain a lot.

[Gloucester Saint]

10 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

It would explain a lot.

This story has been around a while before this source refreshed it again, but right wing outlets are now running with it in the UK and spreading to the US https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/13/trump-putin-secret-kgb-agent/

Some outlets posting the original story were attacked by DDOS, almost certainly by Russia https://www.bylinesupplement.com/p/breaking-crosspost-donald-trump-was

Edited 14 hours ago by Gloucester Saint

[whelk]

1 hour ago, badgerx16 said:

Has Woksaintly stolen Nic's thunder ?

TLDR

[benjii]

Trump's latest stroke of genius is to plough tax payer cash into a bunch of crypto currencies. He has, naturally, chosen the currencies that his crypto adviser David Sachs is most heavily invested in.

It's mind boggling that people voted for this guy.

Someone needs to do it soon. Musk too.

Edited 7 hours ago by benjii

[AlexLaw76]

22 minutes ago, benjii said:

Trump's latest stroke of genius is to plough tax payer cash into a bunch of crypto currencies. He has, naturally, chosen the currencies that his crypto adviser David Sachs is most heavily invested in.

It's mind boggling that people voted for this guy.

Someone needs to do it soon. Musk too.

Do what?

[benjii]

57 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Do what?

The right thing.

[benjii]

1 hour ago, benjii said:

Trump's latest stroke of genius is to plough tax payer cash into a bunch of crypto currencies. He has, naturally, chosen the currencies that his crypto adviser David Sachs is most heavily invested in.

It's mind boggling that people voted for this guy.

Someone needs to do it soon. Musk too.

 

 

[east-stand-nic]

On 01/03/2025 at 23:47, whelk said:

😂 like I’d watch anything this dopey cunt posts.

Aw, hurting once again as I have yet again prove how closed minded and brainwashed you all are?

On 01/03/2025 at 23:47, Gloucester Saint said:

Jeffrey Sachs as well, the mind behind disaster capitalism. Jesus Wept. 

What next from Nic? Icke on 5G? Le Tissier on crop spaying? Trump on injecting bleach for Covid?

Yep, he tells facts. You don't like his facts so you belittle him and them. You are another closed minded fool.

On 02/03/2025 at 00:12, revolution saint said:

Nic, you're a trump supporter - you've had numerous occasions to explain your position and you avoid it every single time and therefore, if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, then, well, you know the rest.

Personally I'd have slightly more respect for you if you had the courage of your convictions and owned it.  

Show me where I have supported anything he has done please. Thanks. I have said countless times I believe politics is a pantomime, a soap opera to keep you thicko's entertained and believing silly things. You get brainwashed by the shows on BBC and other MSM and refuse to look outside for alternative news and views.

On 02/03/2025 at 00:23, aintforever said:

The NATO expansion argument is just bollocks, the only reason countries such as Estonia have not already been invaded is because they are part of NATO. NATO countries are not a threat to Russia, they are just in the way of their imperialist intentions.

This bellend talks about NATO expansion like they are invading countries, it’s just free democratic countries choosing to be part of a defensive organisation. Who are we to deny them that right?

No, it is not bollocks. It is fact. You just don't like it as it goes too far against your brainwashing and your desire to be seen as intelligent on such subjects. If he had said something that supports your view, you would love it. That is the problem on here, too many braindead thicko's unable and unwilling to listen to anything outside their confirmation bias.

1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Do what?

He did not like what the man said so he made up bollox to try and belittle him. Standard stuff when proving people on here wrong.

[CB Fry]

Thick cunt says what?

[badgerx16]

20 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said:

Aw, hurting once again as I have yet again prove how closed minded and brainwashed you all are?

Yep, he tells facts. You don't like his facts so you belittle him and them. You are another closed minded fool.

Show me where I have supported anything he has done please. Thanks. I have said countless times I believe politics is a pantomime, a soap opera to keep you thicko's entertained and believing silly things. You get brainwashed by the shows on BBC and other MSM and refuse to look outside for alternative news and views.

No, it is not bollocks. It is fact. You just don't like it as it goes too far against your brainwashing and your desire to be seen as intelligent on such subjects. If he had said something that supports your view, you would love it. That is the problem on here, too many braindead thicko's unable and unwilling to listen to anything outside their confirmation bias.

He did not like what the man said so he made up bollox to try and belittle him. Standard stuff when proving people on here wrong.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLROFL

[whelk]

27 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said:

Aw, hurting once again as I have yet again prove how closed minded and brainwashed you all are?

Yep, he tells facts. You don't like his facts so you belittle him and them. You are another closed minded fool.

Show me where I have supported anything he has done please. Thanks. I have said countless times I believe politics is a pantomime, a soap opera to keep you thicko's entertained and believing silly things. You get brainwashed by the shows on BBC and other MSM and refuse to look outside for alternative news and views.

No, it is not bollocks. It is fact. You just don't like it as it goes too far against your brainwashing and your desire to be seen as intelligent on such subjects. If he had said something that supports your view, you would love it. That is the problem on here, too many braindead thicko's unable and unwilling to listen to anything outside their confirmation bias.

He did not like what the man said so he made up bollox to try and belittle him. Standard stuff when proving people on here wrong.

Fucking hell, just pay a fiver you tight cunt

[whelk]

27 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

Thick cunt says what?

He never insults anyone ever. Starts crying if anyone mentions food though

Edited 5 hours ago by whelk

[whelk]

2 hours ago, benjii said:

Someone needs to do it soon. Musk too

Don’t forget Vance. Hopefully that cunt will ski into a tree and be in a coma for 10 years 

[Gloucester Saint]

DOGE has meant Musk and his McDonald’s Saturday teenage janitors accessing IRS and pensions data for all Americans, whilst seemingly under compromat by Russia. Anyone spot a problem? https://baringslaw.com/press-releases/thousands-of-pension-holders-to-sue-capita-over-russia-linked-hack/

[badgerx16]

1 hour ago, benjii said:

 

 

Donald Trump to Fox News in 2021 ; "Bitcoin is a scam".

Edited 5 hours ago by badgerx16

[Weston Super Saint]

16 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Donald Trump to Fox News in 2021 ; "Bitcoin is a scam".

Donald Trump on Zalensky in Feb 2025 "he's a dictator".

Donald Trump on Zalensky a week later in Feb 2025 "did I say that? I don’t think I said that".

I think there's a moral to this story but can't quite put my finger on it....

[east-stand-nic]

If you still believe that Russia started this conflict in 2022, then you are either corrupt, ignorant, or brainwashed.

If you don’t know who Victoria Nuland is, or what she was doing in Ukraine in 2014, then you have no idea what’s going on.

The Deep State started this war. It was the Obama CIA/State Dept that funded Nazi militant groups to start a civil war in Ukraine, and initiated regime change to a CIA/State Dept puppet, Yatseniuk.

This was all revealed in the leaked phone call between State Dept diplomats and Deep State agents, Victoria Nuland and Geoffrey Pyatt (link in next post).

After the Maidan coup in February 2014, the US CIA/State Dept owned Ukraine via proxy, and the CIA began using Ukraine as a giant offshore playground for criminal racketeering and money laundering. Ukraine became one giant CIA base, directly on Russia’s border.

Then the US/NATO began building up Ukraine’s army for the sole purpose of one day fighting Russia. The US/NATO began supplying Ukraine with weapons, equipment, missiles, training, intelligence, etc. 

Covert elements within the US government, along with their European partners in NATO, used espionage to overthrow and take control of the nation of Ukraine, then built a massive standing army on Russia’s border, then tried to bring Ukraine into NATO, and thus start WW3.

If you are still buying the official MSM narrative about this conflict, you should not be engaged in conversations.

Everything the MSM told you about Ukraine/Russia has been a lie, and in many cases, the inverse of the truth.

Link to BBC article from 2014 admitting the massive scandal at the US State Dept engaging in regime change.

The MSM always leave these details out of the current narrative.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26072281.amp

No doubt the pretend intellectuals on hear will refuse to accept this. Brain dead. 

[rallyboy]

58 minutes ago, whelk said:

Don’t forget Vance. Hopefully that cunt will ski into a tree and be in a coma for 10 years 

That sounds a bit harsh, is the tree okay? 

[badgerx16]

11 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said:

If you still believe that Russia started this conflict in 2022, then you are either corrupt, ignorant, or brainwashed.

If you don’t know who Victoria Nuland is, or what she was doing in Ukraine in 2014, then you have no idea what’s going on.

The Deep State started this war. It was the Obama CIA/State Dept that funded Nazi militant groups to start a civil war in Ukraine, and initiated regime change to a CIA/State Dept puppet, Yatseniuk.

This was all revealed in the leaked phone call between State Dept diplomats and Deep State agents, Victoria Nuland and Geoffrey Pyatt (link in next post).

After the Maidan coup in February 2014, the US CIA/State Dept owned Ukraine via proxy, and the CIA began using Ukraine as a giant offshore playground for criminal racketeering and money laundering. Ukraine became one giant CIA base, directly on Russia’s border.

Then the US/NATO began building up Ukraine’s army for the sole purpose of one day fighting Russia. The US/NATO began supplying Ukraine with weapons, equipment, missiles, training, intelligence, etc. 

Covert elements within the US government, along with their European partners in NATO, used espionage to overthrow and take control of the nation of Ukraine, then built a massive standing army on Russia’s border, then tried to bring Ukraine into NATO, and thus start WW3.

If you are still buying the official MSM narrative about this conflict, you should not be engaged in conversations.

Everything the MSM told you about Ukraine/Russia has been a lie, and in many cases, the inverse of the truth.

Link to BBC article from 2014 admitting the massive scandal at the US State Dept engaging in regime change.

The MSM always leave these details out of the current narrative.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26072281.amp

No doubt the pretend intellectuals on hear will refuse to accept this. Brain dead. 

That is a bigger load of stinking shite than even the elephants at Blackpool zoo could manage.

In other news, the Earth is flat, the stars are merely luminescent dots painted on a dome covering the world, and the moon is made of cheese and is positioned 1500 miles above the North pole.

[badgerx16]

Russia armed and supplied the insurrection in Donetsk and Luhansk, Russia annexed Crimea by military force, Russia invaded Ukraine.

The United States forced Ukraine to give up it's nuclear weapons in return for guarantees of security.

NATO has never forced a country to join the alliance. However, fear of Putin has.

Edited 4 hours ago by badgerx16

[Whitey Grandad]

39 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said:

If you still believe that Russia started this conflict in 2022, then you are either corrupt, ignorant, or brainwashed.

If you don’t know who Victoria Nuland is, or what she was doing in Ukraine in 2014, then you have no idea what’s going on.

The Deep State started this war. It was the Obama CIA/State Dept that funded Nazi militant groups to start a civil war in Ukraine, and initiated regime change to a CIA/State Dept puppet, Yatseniuk.

This was all revealed in the leaked phone call between State Dept diplomats and Deep State agents, Victoria Nuland and Geoffrey Pyatt (link in next post).

After the Maidan coup in February 2014, the US CIA/State Dept owned Ukraine via proxy, and the CIA began using Ukraine as a giant offshore playground for criminal racketeering and money laundering. Ukraine became one giant CIA base, directly on Russia’s border.

Then the US/NATO began building up Ukraine’s army for the sole purpose of one day fighting Russia. The US/NATO began supplying Ukraine with weapons, equipment, missiles, training, intelligence, etc. 

Covert elements within the US government, along with their European partners in NATO, used espionage to overthrow and take control of the nation of Ukraine, then built a massive standing army on Russia’s border, then tried to bring Ukraine into NATO, and thus start WW3.

If you are still buying the official MSM narrative about this conflict, you should not be engaged in conversations.

Everything the MSM told you about Ukraine/Russia has been a lie, and in many cases, the inverse of the truth.

Link to BBC article from 2014 admitting the massive scandal at the US State Dept engaging in regime change.

The MSM always leave these details out of the current narrative.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26072281.amp

No doubt the pretend intellectuals on hear will refuse to accept this. Brain dead. 

As an intellectual on hear I can at least spell.

Please remind me once more, who invaded whom?

[egg]

50 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said:

If you still believe that Russia started this conflict in 2022, then you are either corrupt, ignorant, or brainwashed.

If you don’t know who Victoria Nuland is, or what she was doing in Ukraine in 2014, then you have no idea what’s going on.

The Deep State started this war. It was the Obama CIA/State Dept that funded Nazi militant groups to start a civil war in Ukraine, and initiated regime change to a CIA/State Dept puppet, Yatseniuk.

This was all revealed in the leaked phone call between State Dept diplomats and Deep State agents, Victoria Nuland and Geoffrey Pyatt (link in next post).

After the Maidan coup in February 2014, the US CIA/State Dept owned Ukraine via proxy, and the CIA began using Ukraine as a giant offshore playground for criminal racketeering and money laundering. Ukraine became one giant CIA base, directly on Russia’s border.

Then the US/NATO began building up Ukraine’s army for the sole purpose of one day fighting Russia. The US/NATO began supplying Ukraine with weapons, equipment, missiles, training, intelligence, etc. 

Covert elements within the US government, along with their European partners in NATO, used espionage to overthrow and take control of the nation of Ukraine, then built a massive standing army on Russia’s border, then tried to bring Ukraine into NATO, and thus start WW3.

If you are still buying the official MSM narrative about this conflict, you should not be engaged in conversations.

Everything the MSM told you about Ukraine/Russia has been a lie, and in many cases, the inverse of the truth.

Link to BBC article from 2014 admitting the massive scandal at the US State Dept engaging in regime change.

The MSM always leave these details out of the current narrative.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26072281.amp

No doubt the pretend intellectuals on hear will refuse to accept this. Brain dead. 

Alternatively, people could listen to a grown up. She called it, and to say it's disappointing that the Americans didn't listen is an understatement 

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/15HBM4F7uS/

And your suggestion that US and Nato used espionage to gain control of Ukraine, to build them up, and start WW3 is as ridiculous a statement as I've read on this forum. That's some feat. 

[egg]

37 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

That is a bigger load of stinking shite than even the elephants at Blackpool zoo could manage.

In other news, the Earth is flat, the stars are merely luminescent dots painted on a dome covering the world, and the moon is made of cheese and is positioned 1500 miles above the North pole.

Are saying it isn't? You're a brainwashed MSM following sheep I tell you. 

[Whitey Grandad]

5 minutes ago, egg said:

Alternatively, people could listen to a grown up. She called it, and to say it's disappointing that the Americans didn't listen is an understatement 

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/15HBM4F7uS/

And your suggestion that US and Nato used espionage to gain control of Ukraine, to build them up, and start WW3 is as ridiculous a statement as I've read on this forum. That's some feat. 

“Who would eat you for lunch”

Yes, she did call it. What is she doing now?

[badgerx16]

At the risk of taking this thread further off topic, there is "history" between Russia and Ukraine that goes back much further than 2014. Russia has always viewed the Ukrainiwns as subservient to them, that Ukraine only exists to feed the superior Russian people. The Holodomyr was a deliberate act of genocide, the Tatars were subjected to mass deportations from their traditional lands in Crimea. There is a reason why the Ukrainians welcomed the Germans in 1941 as liberators, ( admittedly this was misguided ).

[whelk]

1 hour ago, east-stand-nic said:

If you still believe that Russia started this conflict in 2022, then you are either corrupt, ignorant, or brainwashed.

If you don’t know who Victoria Nuland is, or what she was doing in Ukraine in 2014, then you have no idea what’s going on.

The Deep State started this war. It was the Obama CIA/State Dept that funded Nazi militant groups to start a civil war in Ukraine, and initiated regime change to a CIA/State Dept puppet, Yatseniuk.

This was all revealed in the leaked phone call between State Dept diplomats and Deep State agents, Victoria Nuland and Geoffrey Pyatt (link in next post).

After the Maidan coup in February 2014, the US CIA/State Dept owned Ukraine via proxy, and the CIA began using Ukraine as a giant offshore playground for criminal racketeering and money laundering. Ukraine became one giant CIA base, directly on Russia’s border.

Then the US/NATO began building up Ukraine’s army for the sole purpose of one day fighting Russia. The US/NATO began supplying Ukraine with weapons, equipment, missiles, training, intelligence, etc. 

Covert elements within the US government, along with their European partners in NATO, used espionage to overthrow and take control of the nation of Ukraine, then built a massive standing army on Russia’s border, then tried to bring Ukraine into NATO, and thus start WW3.

If you are still buying the official MSM narrative about this conflict, you should not be engaged in conversations.

Everything the MSM told you about Ukraine/Russia has been a lie, and in many cases, the inverse of the truth.

Link to BBC article from 2014 admitting the massive scandal at the US State Dept engaging in regime change.

The MSM always leave these details out of the current narrative.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26072281.amp

No doubt the pretend intellectuals on hear will refuse to accept this. Brain dead. 

Is it just because you have such insecurity about your lack of intellect that you like to believe any old guff to reassure yourself. Just in case you are under any illusion, you definitely are a very thick cunt.

Edited 3 hours ago by whelk

[whelk]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNdJsQ9bT/
 

these kids are clever

[Whitey Grandad]

31 minutes ago, whelk said:

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNdJsQ9bT/
 

these kids are clever

TikTok innit.

Can’t watch it.

[whelk]

2 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

TikTok innit.

Can’t watch it.

It’s free whitey

[Gloucester Saint]

I doubted it when people speculated that ESN was another login for Guided Missile. But after that batshit crazy, wardrobe mad post on Ukraine/Russia, it’s seems more possible they are one of the same. Not least that you’d have to be drunk as a skunk to post that stuff. 

[Whitey Grandad]

16 minutes ago, whelk said:

It’s free whitey

Don’t you have to sign up for it and install something? I’m not that gullible despite appearances.

[Gloucester Saint]

John Bolton forecast what would happen on the Zelensky visit and makes a huge amount of sense, having been one of his longest-serving Secretaries of State first time around 

 

[whelk]

1 hour ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Don’t you have to sign up for it and install something? I’m not that gullible despite 

better?

Edited 1 hour ago by whelk

[Gloucester Saint]

1 hour ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Don’t you have to sign up for it and install something? I’m not that gullible despite appearances.

You can view a certain amount of posts free before being asked to start a free account. You’d have to be logged in to add comments etc.

[sadoldgit]

4 hours ago, east-stand-nic said:

If you still believe that Russia started this conflict in 2022, then you are either corrupt, ignorant, or brainwashed.

If you don’t know who Victoria Nuland is, or what she was doing in Ukraine in 2014, then you have no idea what’s going on.

The Deep State started this war. It was the Obama CIA/State Dept that funded Nazi militant groups to start a civil war in Ukraine, and initiated regime change to a CIA/State Dept puppet, Yatseniuk.

This was all revealed in the leaked phone call between State Dept diplomats and Deep State agents, Victoria Nuland and Geoffrey Pyatt (link in next post).

After the Maidan coup in February 2014, the US CIA/State Dept owned Ukraine via proxy, and the CIA began using Ukraine as a giant offshore playground for criminal racketeering and money laundering. Ukraine became one giant CIA base, directly on Russia’s border.

Then the US/NATO began building up Ukraine’s army for the sole purpose of one day fighting Russia. The US/NATO began supplying Ukraine with weapons, equipment, missiles, training, intelligence, etc. 

Covert elements within the US government, along with their European partners in NATO, used espionage to overthrow and take control of the nation of Ukraine, then built a massive standing army on Russia’s border, then tried to bring Ukraine into NATO, and thus start WW3.

If you are still buying the official MSM narrative about this conflict, you should not be engaged in conversations.

Everything the MSM told you about Ukraine/Russia has been a lie, and in many cases, the inverse of the truth.

Link to BBC article from 2014 admitting the massive scandal at the US State Dept engaging in regime change.

The MSM always leave these details out of the current narrative.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26072281.amp

No doubt the pretend intellectuals on hear will refuse to accept this. Brain dead. 

It seems like only a couple of days ago that you were asking for examples of the conspiracy theories that you spout and, as if by magic, you spew up another one. You seem to get some kind of inner self confirmation in your belief that only you are smart enough to know the truth. You are not. You are a deluded fool who goes out of his way to find “truths” that fit in with your ‘I’m the only one smart enough to see what is really going on’ shtick. 
The sad thing is you will not walk away from this thread and think maybe they have a point. You will just see it as further confirmation of your great insight and lack of conformity. You really are quite thick.