Gloucester Saint Posted February 15 Posted February 15 Good article here on why car tariffs are nonsense. There’s a trade imbalance because 4 litre gas guzzlers don’t fit around Europe streets with 15th century buildings. Some of the corners around here are a prime example unless you want to collide with honey coloured stone. Tariffs also stifle innovation, look at how lazy BMC became pre-Common Market membership If Americans made better compacts with good automatic transmissions that were durable like Japanese and German models, I’d be open to buying one https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq8kn5v37wxo 1
Tamesaint Posted February 16 Posted February 16 On 15/02/2025 at 22:39, Gloucester Saint said: Good article here on why car tariffs are nonsense. There’s a trade imbalance because 4 litre gas guzzlers don’t fit around Europe streets with 15th century buildings. Some of the corners around here are a prime example unless you want to collide with honey coloured stone. Tariffs also stifle innovation, look at how lazy BMC became pre-Common Market membership If Americans made better compacts with good automatic transmissions that were durable like Japanese and German models, I’d be open to buying one https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq8kn5v37wxo Expand Tesla European sales down. China buying soya beans from South America rather than Iowa. Canadians boycotting American goods. Perhaps the best way to confront Trump is for consumers like us to consciously avoid buying American items. Hurt them in their pockets. It will not be easy. No more Amazon. Avoid Heinz, Kelloggs, Gillette and other US brands. You have to be knowledgeable to find alternatives but there is a growing campaign in Canada to avoid American produced items / American companies. Lets do likewise here. 4
badgerx16 Posted February 16 Posted February 16 On 15/02/2025 at 21:51, Gloucester Saint said: National Parks as well https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/15/us-forest-service-national-park-service-layoffs Fire mitigation will be very difficult and the parks left in a far worse state. Mind you, anyone wanting to visit America over the next 4 years for leisure (work is different) has to be a MAGA supporter. Expand Who would have thought there was so much corruption in the National Parks Service ?
badgerx16 Posted February 16 Posted February 16 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g3nrx1dq5o "The US government is trying to bring back nuclear safety employees it fired on Thursday, but is struggling to let them know they should return to work, NBC News has reported. The National Nuclear Security Administration workers were among hundreds of employees in the energy department who received termination letters. An email obtained by NBC said the letters for some NNSA employees "are being rescinded, but we do not have a good way to get in touch with those personnel"." 1 1
Dark Munster Posted February 16 Posted February 16 On 07/02/2025 at 08:48, Guided Missile said: This mornings instructional lecture, this time from a US Democrat, Senator John Kennedy: Brilliant... Expand He's a Republican.
Guided Missile Posted February 16 Author Posted February 16 On 16/02/2025 at 03:04, Dark Munster said: He's a Republican. Expand I beg to differ. He's a Democrat, as is Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Elon Musk. I mean, calling him a Republican is like calling David Cameron and Rishi Sunak Conservatives. Furthermore, Starmer, Reeves and Milliband are all Marxists, as I told the Labour sheep on this board, prior to the election. I mean, it's obvious to someone with any brain, like recognising that a male has a penis and should not be allowed in female only spaces or participating in female only sports. Trump is neither a Republican or Democrat. He's a businessman and is the reason the US will soon make the UK look like a corrupt, bankrupt and third rate country, it is becoming. Drill, baby, drill... 2
CB Fry Posted February 16 Posted February 16 On 16/02/2025 at 07:48, Guided Missile said: I mean, calling him a Republican is like calling David Cameron and Rishi Sunak Conservatives. Expand Yes it is. Because they are Conservatives and he is the Republican Senator. You carry on making your shitty little cut and paste points but it doesn't change reality. teLL uS mORe aBoUt mArXIsM gRanDaD yOuR sO nOwLEdgAbLe 4
whelk Posted February 16 Posted February 16 I’m leaving soon, you’ll miss me so much. I’m emigrating or killing myself. All the best everyone. 2
revolution saint Posted February 16 Posted February 16 On 16/02/2025 at 08:10, whelk said: I’m leaving soon, you’ll miss me so much. I’m emigrating or killing myself. All the best everyone. Expand Don’t you want a fight in a pub first? 3
badgerx16 Posted February 16 Posted February 16 (edited) On 16/02/2025 at 07:48, Guided Missile said: I beg to differ. He's a Democrat, as is Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Elon Musk. I mean, calling him a Republican is like calling David Cameron and Rishi Sunak Conservatives. Expand Kennedy switched sides to the Republicans in 2007. Do try to keep up. Dickwad. Edited February 16 by badgerx16 5
badgerx16 Posted February 16 Posted February 16 On 16/02/2025 at 07:48, Guided Missile said: ......., it's obvious to someone with any brain, Expand Rules you out then. 4
badgerx16 Posted February 16 Posted February 16 (edited) On 16/02/2025 at 07:48, Guided Missile said: Trump is neither a Republican or Democrat. He's a businessman and is the reason the US will soon make the UK look like a corrupt, bankrupt and third rate country, it is becoming. Drill, baby, drill... Expand Trump is an Oompa-Loompa man-baby with many bankruptcies and failed businesses behind him. He is corrupt, and has no respect for Law or democracy, he just likes throwing his substantial weight around whilst throwing hissy fits of a magnitude my 4 year old granddaughter can only dream of. He is a liar, a braggart, and the archetypical playground bully, no wonder you look up to him. Edited February 16 by badgerx16 6
Gloucester Saint Posted February 16 Posted February 16 On 16/02/2025 at 01:03, badgerx16 said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g3nrx1dq5o "The US government is trying to bring back nuclear safety employees it fired on Thursday, but is struggling to let them know they should return to work, NBC News has reported. The National Nuclear Security Administration workers were among hundreds of employees in the energy department who received termination letters. An email obtained by NBC said the letters for some NNSA employees "are being rescinded, but we do not have a good way to get in touch with those personnel"." Expand It’s not like America has ever had a near-nuclear meltdown like Three Mile Island is it?
Gloucester Saint Posted February 16 Posted February 16 On 16/02/2025 at 08:54, badgerx16 said: Trump is an Oompa-Loompa man-baby with many bankruptcies and failed businesses behind him. He is corrupt, and has no respect for Law or democracy, he just likes throwing his substantial weight around whilst throwing hissy fits of a magnitude my 4 year old granddaughter can only dream of. He is a liar, a braggart, and the archetypical playground bully, no wonder you look up to him. Expand Just about to start reading this book https://booksplea.se/lucky-loser-how-donald-trump-squandered-his-fathers-fortune-and-created-the-illusion-of-success-russ-buettner-9781847928245/?setCurrencyId=1&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADipSSRNB-9BUBERbuz8YAzC2Lg1i&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIs638-_XHiwMVaZtQBh1-jDfaEAQYASABEgJAq_D_BwE
badgerx16 Posted February 16 Posted February 16 On 16/02/2025 at 09:56, Gloucester Saint said: Just about to start reading this book https://booksplea.se/lucky-loser-how-donald-trump-squandered-his-fathers-fortune-and-created-the-illusion-of-success-russ-buettner-9781847928245/?setCurrencyId=1&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADipSSRNB-9BUBERbuz8YAzC2Lg1i&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIs638-_XHiwMVaZtQBh1-jDfaEAQYASABEgJAq_D_BwE Expand At least with that, unlike The Art of the Deal, Trump won't be claiming credit for something he had no part in writing. 1
Gloucester Saint Posted February 16 Posted February 16 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crr0gkn1qlzo
hypochondriac Posted February 16 Posted February 16 (edited) Anyone else listen to the speech by JD Vance? His general points about clamping down on freedom of speech, paying more for defence and leaders not listening to the public about immigration were well made I thought and very difficult to dispute. Edited February 16 by hypochondriac 2 5
badgerx16 Posted February 16 Posted February 16 J D Vance at the Munich conference: "Thin mandates produce unstable results". I guess that explains what is happening in the US. 1
Gloucester Saint Posted February 16 Posted February 16 Kicked off at the ice hockey, the coaches trying to play it down but of course the GOP rhetoric and hate has had an impact https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/ice-hockey/articles/c70k2pwkrj1o
whelk Posted February 16 Posted February 16 On 16/02/2025 at 12:45, Gloucester Saint said: Kicked off at the ice hockey, the coaches trying to play it down but of course the GOP rhetoric and hate has had an impact https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/ice-hockey/articles/c70k2pwkrj1o Expand Ryder cup should be fun. Uncouth US cunts are always loathsome and will be even more so now.
badgerx16 Posted February 16 Posted February 16 Pete Hegseth, Fox News weekend show host and cosplay Secretary of Defense ( sic ), having stated at the Munich conference that Ukraine will have to give up plans to join NATO, and has no chance of reclaiming it's 2014 borders, was asked about what concessions Russia might have to give in the peace negotiations. He completely ducked the question. 1
egg Posted February 16 Posted February 16 On 16/02/2025 at 12:49, badgerx16 said: Pete Hegseth, Fox News weekend show host and cosplay Secretary of Defense ( sic ), having stated at the Munich conference that Ukraine will have to give up plans to join NATO, and has no chance of reclaiming it's 2014 borders, was asked about what concessions Russia might have to give in the peace negotiations. He completely ducked the question. Expand Keith Kellog had a bit to say in Munich, but was equally vague, pointing to financial concessions: "So what does (Russian President Vladimir Putin) have to give up? Well maybe he'll give up his oil revenue and we'll force him to do it, because what you do is start employing sanctions that break the economic back," Kellogg said. "These are the things you can do." Earlier in the discussion, Kellogg said that both Ukraine and Russia would have to make concessions to end the war. "When you say concessions, of course they're concessions that both sides are going to have to give," Kellogg said, without specifying what concessions the countries would have to make. The US will get what's in it's interests in this, leaving Ukraine out to dry, and Europe either accepting it or fronting up to Russia. This is a pretty significant moment.
aintforever Posted February 16 Posted February 16 (edited) On 16/02/2025 at 11:16, hypochondriac said: Anyone else listen to the speech by JD Vance? His general points about clamping down on freedom of speech, paying more for defence and leaders not listening to the public about immigration were well made I thought and very difficult to dispute. Expand Paying more on defence made sense but the free speech thing was just weird, especially as it’s their Russian mates who bang people up who speak out against the government and Putin who kills his political opponents. Edited February 16 by aintforever
badgerx16 Posted February 16 Posted February 16 On 16/02/2025 at 13:30, aintforever said: Paying more on defence made sense but the free speech thing was just weird, especially as it’s their Russian mates who bang people up who speak out against the government and Putin who kills his political opponents. Expand The only people at the conference who applauded Vance were the US delegation. The rest just sat back in stunned silence.
spyinthesky Posted February 16 Posted February 16 On 16/02/2025 at 08:54, badgerx16 said: Trump is an Oompa-Loompa man-baby with many bankruptcies and failed businesses behind him. He is corrupt, and has no respect for Law or democracy, he just likes throwing his substantial weight around whilst throwing hissy fits of a magnitude my 4 year old granddaughter can only dream of. He is a liar, a braggart, and the archetypical playground bully, no wonder you look up to him. Expand Trump once called his now Secretary of Health and Human Services..'The dumbest of all the Kennedy's'.. but then promoted him to a senior member of his Government,
tdmickey3 Posted February 16 Posted February 16 On 16/02/2025 at 07:48, Guided Missile said: I beg to differ. He's a Democrat, as is Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Elon Musk. I mean, calling him a Republican is like calling David Cameron and Rishi Sunak Conservatives. Furthermore, Starmer, Reeves and Milliband are all Marxists, as I told the Labour sheep on this board, prior to the election. I mean, it's obvious to someone with any brain, like recognising that a male has a penis and should not be allowed in female only spaces or participating in female only sports. Trump is neither a Republican or Democrat. He's a businessman and is the reason the US will soon make the UK look like a corrupt, bankrupt and third rate country, it is becoming. Drill, baby, drill... Expand To be completely factual…. You are a bit of a penis
badgerx16 Posted February 16 Posted February 16 On 16/02/2025 at 15:14, tdmickey3 said: To be completely factual…. You are a bit of a penis Expand To be specific, the bit that circumcision discards.
hypochondriac Posted February 16 Posted February 16 On 16/02/2025 at 13:30, aintforever said: Paying more on defence made sense but the free speech thing was just weird, especially as it’s their Russian mates who bang people up who speak out against the government and Putin who kills his political opponents. Expand Russia definitely have a problem with free speech. So do we. I'd say it's more important for the West to keep the values that make them the best places to live in the world rather than Russia who has never had freedom.
aintforever Posted February 16 Posted February 16 On 16/02/2025 at 16:04, hypochondriac said: Russia definitely have a problem with free speech. So do we. I'd say it's more important for the West to keep the values that make them the best places to live in the world rather than Russia who has never had freedom. Expand What is our problem with free speech?
Dark Munster Posted February 16 Posted February 16 On 16/02/2025 at 11:16, hypochondriac said: Anyone else listen to the speech by JD Vance? His general points about clamping down on freedom of speech, paying more for defence and leaders not listening to the public about immigration were well made I thought and very difficult to dispute. Expand He was right on the money about clamping down on free speech. Trump is working hard on that. He also showed his wit too. “And trust me, I say this with all humor,” he said. “If American democracy can survive 10 years of Greta Thunburg scolding, you guys can survive a few months of Elon Musk.” It was met with roars of laughter from the audience. Not. You could hear a pin drop.
hypochondriac Posted February 16 Posted February 16 On 16/02/2025 at 16:16, aintforever said: What is our problem with free speech? Expand Off the top of my head: sending police around to social media users for content that is not illegal, non crime hate incidents, arresting someone for standing and silently praying, a man last week arrested for burning a quaran, labour supposedly adopting a definition of Islamophobia containing 'perceived Muslimness' which many people believe amounts to a blasphemy law, the online safety act that propose the removal of content deemed 'legal but harmful'. I'm sure there's more but that will do for starters.
hypochondriac Posted February 16 Posted February 16 On 16/02/2025 at 16:32, Dark Munster said: He was right on the money about clamping down on free speech. Trump is working hard on that. He also showed his wit too. “And trust me, I say this with all humor,” he said. “If American democracy can survive 10 years of Greta Thunburg scolding, you guys can survive a few months of Elon Musk.” It was met with roars of laughter from the audience. Not. You could hear a pin drop. Expand I can imagine he knew exactly how the speech would be received. That was most likely the point. 1
aintforever Posted February 16 Posted February 16 On 16/02/2025 at 16:32, hypochondriac said: Off the top of my head: sending police around to social media users for content that is not illegal, non crime hate incidents, arresting someone for standing and silently praying, a man last week arrested for burning a quaran, labour supposedly adopting a definition of Islamophobia containing 'perceived Muslimness' which many people believe amounts to a blasphemy law, the online safety act that propose the removal of content deemed 'legal but harmful'. I'm sure there's more but that will do for starters. Expand Seriously, that’s more if a threat to us than Russia. A few OTT hate crime incidents. 😂
AlexLaw76 Posted February 16 Posted February 16 (edited) On 16/02/2025 at 16:36, aintforever said: Seriously, that’s more if a threat to us than Russia. A few OTT hate crime incidents. 😂 Expand I would say that Russia is not dictating our almost non-existent immigration policy..for both legal and illegal migration. Lots of talk about upping our Defence Spending to 2.5%.... 2.5% is pittance really, just as we have retired 2 major warships and *cough* about to formally retire some more (early). The Army is almost completely hollow and the air force have so few front line assets, it is now embarrassing for an apparent 1st world nation. Edited February 16 by AlexLaw76
aintforever Posted February 16 Posted February 16 On 16/02/2025 at 16:38, AlexLaw76 said: I would say that Russia is not dictating out almost non-existent immigration policy..for both legal and illegal migration. Expand And in English…
AlexLaw76 Posted February 16 Posted February 16 (edited) On 16/02/2025 at 16:39, aintforever said: And in English… Expand We are our own threat (ie, within)...we are choosing to do absolutely noting (or very little at best) to control millions of undocumented people coming to this continent Edited February 16 by AlexLaw76
aintforever Posted February 16 Posted February 16 (edited) On 16/02/2025 at 16:43, AlexLaw76 said: We are our own threat (ie, within)...we are choosing to do absolutely noting (or very little at best) to control millions of undocumented people coming to this continent Expand The treat of terrorism is obviously serious and needs to be addressed. Not sure that could be classed as more if a threat to Europe than Russia. Are you saying that we should spend money on immigration control and counter terrorism police instead of the armed forces? Edited February 16 by aintforever
Ted Bates Statue Posted February 16 Posted February 16 On 14/02/2025 at 23:28, badgerx16 said: Trump said at his press conference today that he doesn't know if China is part of BRICS. Perhaps he thinks that the 'C' stands for Chad. Expand He's been confused by BRICS for weeks. The last blunder was suggesting Spain was in the group. Mad that every Biden slip-up was pounced upon but every time this guy opens his mouth he's 'negotiating' or more likely, trying to create as many distractions as possible while being a corrupt bastard
AlexLaw76 Posted February 16 Posted February 16 On 16/02/2025 at 16:47, aintforever said: The treat of terrorism is obviously serious and needs to be addressed. Not sure that could be classed as more if a threat to Europe than Russia. Are you saying tha5 we should spend money on immigration control and counter terrorism police instead of the armed forces? Expand No. I would say both. The UK spending on the Forces is pittiful
aintforever Posted February 16 Posted February 16 (edited) On 16/02/2025 at 16:48, AlexLaw76 said: No. I would say both. The UK spending on the Forces is pittiful Expand We can barely afford the 2.5% on the forces - how much more do you want to spend on counter terrorism instead? Also, are Islamist terror attacks even on the rise? It would be interesting to see the stats but there definitely seemed to be more around the time when we were invading Iraq and dealing with Afghanistan. Edited February 16 by aintforever
hypochondriac Posted February 16 Posted February 16 (edited) On 16/02/2025 at 16:36, aintforever said: Seriously, that’s more if a threat to us than Russia. A few OTT hate crime incidents. 😂 Expand I didn't actually mention anything about Russia in my post I was responding to the question about how free speech is threatened in the UK. I would say it probably depends what you mean by threat. I don't feel particularly threatened by Russia on a personal level but certainly on the international stage they are undoubtedly a larger threat. The individual intimidated by the police or subject to arrest for a social media post probably feels a personal threat from the UK. I'd also say that the levels of immigration is a fairly large immediate threat to my way of life and the request by a majority to have that reduced has been ignored for years. Edited February 16 by hypochondriac 2
AlexLaw76 Posted February 16 Posted February 16 On 16/02/2025 at 16:50, aintforever said: We can barely afford the 2.5% on the forces - how much more do you want to spend on counter terrorism instead? Expand Instead? is it one or the other?
aintforever Posted February 16 Posted February 16 On 16/02/2025 at 17:11, AlexLaw76 said: Instead? is it one or the other? Expand Obviously it’s about what you prioritise as there is not a magic money tree. Every billion spent on combating this massive threat from within is a billion that could be spent on our armed forces.
hypochondriac Posted February 16 Posted February 16 On 16/02/2025 at 17:15, aintforever said: Obviously it’s about what you prioritise as there is not a magic money tree. Every billion spent on combating this massive threat from within is a billion that could be spent on our armed forces. Expand It's a political choice what we spend our money on. We could if we chose to spend more on defence and immigration defence and make spending in other areas less of a priority than it is at present if we wanted to.
aintforever Posted February 16 Posted February 16 On 16/02/2025 at 17:19, hypochondriac said: It's a political choice what we spend our money on. We could if we chose to spend more on defence and immigration defence and make spending in other areas less of a priority than it is at present if we wanted to. Expand Of course it is. I would up spending on our army and air force over immigration control personally. Stopping the boats is a problem but the vast majority of immigration is legal so the best way to bring the numbers down is dealing with that.
hypochondriac Posted February 16 Posted February 16 On 16/02/2025 at 17:23, aintforever said: Of course it is. I would up spending on our army and air force over immigration control personally. Stopping the boats is a problem but the vast majority of immigration is legal so the best way to bring the numbers down is dealing with that. Expand I'd increase military spending, push pro family policies to try to increase the birth rate, have much stricter policies around people coming here and adapting to the existing culture, I'd look to reduce the burden of immigration both legal and illegal and part of that would involve spending on immigration control. I'd reduce spending in other areas I consider to be less important in order to fund it.
Picard Posted February 16 Posted February 16 On 08/02/2025 at 13:52, badgerx16 said: "The secret of freedom lies in educating people, whereas the secret of tyranny is in keeping them ignorant." ( Maximilien Robespierre ). Expand Robespierre would have been quite a fan of DOGE . (Department of guillotine executions.)
Whitey Grandad Posted February 17 Posted February 17 On 16/02/2025 at 23:13, skintsaint said: 😅 Expand Going round in circles getting nowhere?
sadoldgit Posted February 17 Posted February 17 😂 https://www.newsbreak.com/raw-story-2096750/3816109770635-whoops-trump-mocked-after-report-he-accidentally-fired-people-in-charge-of-nukes
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