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Just now, sadoldgit said:

I’m not “pissing my pants”.

Whether he means what he says or not, the fact that he publically makes these threats does not help NATO’s position in the eyes of Russia, China and North Korea.

He has been saying it for years, it was being reported during his first term, it's nothing new.

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Trump says he will stop the automatic right of citizenship for those born in the US to immigrant families. Almost certainly will never happen as it is a right enshrined in the 14th Amendment, and there is no way he would get a super-majority in both Houses, nor two thirds of State legislatures to support it.

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56 minutes ago, whelk said:

"If they're paying their bills, if I think they're treating us fairly, then absolutely I would stay with NATO” - Trump

He's fed up that other countries are not spending the required amount of defence. That seems fair enough to me. 

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1 hour ago, badgerx16 said:

Trump and Trudeau have history. During his previous Presidency they were having a phone conversation when Trudeau complained about US trade tariffs impacting Canada. In reply, referring to the War of 1812, Trump said "Didn't you guys burn down the White House ?".

Wasn't trudeau overheard at some leaders thing taking the piss out of Trump? 

Posted
1 hour ago, sadoldgit said:

I’m not “pissing my pants”.

Whether he means what he says or not, the fact that he publically makes these threats does not help NATO’s position in the eyes of Russia, China and North Korea.

Yes you are, anything to do with Trump and you're pissing like a pissing thing who's been on the piss. You dont actually read or listen to anything he says its Trump said it = bad. 

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39 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Wasn't trudeau overheard at some leaders thing taking the piss out of Trump? 

I mean he’s got to expect that and hard not to but think his stance on NATO is reasonable.

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26 minutes ago, whelk said:

I mean he’s got to expect that and hard not to but think his stance on NATO is reasonable.

Quite possibly but it's really not the best thing to do when you are America's little brother and Trump is throwing his weight around. If Starmer had any sense he'd be properly sicking up to him to his face at least. It's just politics at the end of the day. Agree about NATO loads of countries got used to underspending and then having their share subsidised by America. Trump is right it's grossly unfair and each nation should pay their fair amount. 

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The rocket company led by Elon Musk has seen its valuation surge to about $350bn after his backing of Donald Trump in the US election. SpaceX, which also makes satellites, has been boosted by a share buyback of as much as $1.25bn (£1bn) of the company’s common shares at $185 apiece, according to an email to employees seen by Bloomberg. Mr Musk was a prominent backer of Mr Trump during the US election and will lead a new Department of Government Efficiency expected to reduce red tape for businesses. The valuation cements SpaceX’s status as the most valuable private start-up in the world, according to Bloomberg. Mr Musk’s businesses have seen an enormous boost since the US election, with Tesla shares up 65pc and close to a record high since the vote on November 5. The billionaire’s own wealth has soared to about $384bn (£301bn).

Donald Trump & MAGA. The Christmas present that keeps on giving.

Posted
6 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

so what?

Indeed.  Yet another 'opinion piece' posted by Soggy to make who knows what kind of point.

One sentence in the article linked even states :

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There is no evidence that Musk or any other group had direct influence on the plan to scrap the requirement. 

Not really sure what Soggy means by 'who would have thought it?'.

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On 07/11/2024 at 09:59, Turkish said:

You said and i quote 

 

He is not a convicted rapist. You dont like him we know that you fucking go on about it enough but you lied, yet again. As for some of the other things you accuse him off, seem like you and he are not that dissimilar. Perhaps the reason you hate him so much is that it's like looking at a more orange version of yourself.

I saw this headline "Trump gets $15m in ABC News defamation case"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgrw57q4y9do

ABC News has agreed to pay $15m (£12m) to US President-elect Donald Trump to settle a defamation lawsuit after its star anchor falsely said he had been found "liable for rape".

I was reminded of the discussion above, when one of the posters here made similar statements about him being a convicted rapist.

 

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James O’Keefe dropped an undercover video on Monday in which one of President Joe Biden's National Security Council advisors

explains that the cognitively declining president is far worse off than the public knows.

https://redstate.com/mike_miller/2024/12/16/james-okeefe-releases-shocking-video-of-nsc-advisor-admitting-biden-is-far-worse-off-than-we-know-n2183290

https://x.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1868735708913176591

 

Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

Donnie's alternative budget is rejected by 235 votes to 174 in the House of Representatives as 38 Republicans join the Democrats in voting against it.

I’d assumed that with majorities, albeit slender, in the House and Senate that most of what Trump wants to do would proceed with less drama.

Clearly not so and could be a very bumpy ride. This grouping hasn’t come up on my radar so much but perhaps in the context of the next two years they will now https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Caucus#:~:text=The Freedom Caucus%2C also known,right bloc within the chamber.

Ideologically, they sound like the former Tea Party sect of the GoP but with the nutty evangelical social and health stuff added on. 

Supposedly loyal to Trump but might flex their muscles as they’ve done here. Trump is a spender rather than the dry fiscal conservatism this mob wants so might be an early attempt from them at playing Conservative pick and mix.

I suppose it’s like assuming the unions will always play ball with a Labour government here - not necessarily so.

Trump might have reach across to the Democrats to build some alliances issue by issue if this Freedom Caucus are going to become a regular pest to him.

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On 15/12/2024 at 13:48, Holmes_and_Watson said:

I saw this headline "Trump gets $15m in ABC News defamation case"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgrw57q4y9do

ABC News has agreed to pay $15m (£12m) to US President-elect Donald Trump to settle a defamation lawsuit after its star anchor falsely said he had been found "liable for rape".

I was reminded of the discussion above, when one of the posters here made similar statements about him being a convicted rapist.

 

I see no comments from anyone who claimed he was guilty/liable? To coin a well known posters phrase, "surprise surprise'.

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On 15/12/2024 at 06:48, Holmes_and_Watson said:

I saw this headline "Trump gets $15m in ABC News defamation case"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgrw57q4y9do

ABC News has agreed to pay $15m (£12m) to US President-elect Donald Trump to settle a defamation lawsuit after its star anchor falsely said he had been found "liable for rape".

I was reminded of the discussion above, when one of the posters here made similar statements about him being a convicted rapist.

 

The statement was made by a poster on here following this pronouncement by a judge.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/

You might recall that he was found guilty of penetration but they couldn’t decide if it was by his penis or his finger. In many states digital penetration counts as rape. Surprise surprise, Trump apologists trying to mitigate his serious sexual assault on a defenceless woman.

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Donald Trump says that the US should take over Greenland, Denmark says it is not for sale and boosts defence spending on the island. This additinal expenditure counts towards Denmark reaching the 2% of GDP spending that NATO requires, and Trump has demanded.

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Donnie has issued a law suit against a polling company that predicted he would lose in Iowa, accusing them of "brazen election interference".

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Posted
3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Democrats only have themselves to blame. 

No, those that voted for him are to blame. It might work out well for them, who knows, but if it doesn’t it is still on them.

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34 minutes ago, whelk said:

No, those that voted for him are to blame. It might work out well for them, who knows, but if it doesn’t it is still on them.

For me, the Democrats lost it more than the republicans won it. Had they not made key mistakes they would have won. Blaming the electorate for Trump will ensure they keep losing. 

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Posted
50 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

For me, the Democrats lost it more than the republicans won it. Had they not made key mistakes they would have won. Blaming the electorate for Trump will ensure they keep losing. 

Democracies elect who the public vote for. Saying yeah but it’s not our fault as we didn’t like the other one as much isn’t blame.

Of course lack of credible candidates impacts voters but if people say they only voted Johnson cos they didn’t trust Corbyn it is still on them if Johnson didn’t deliver. Anyway I get your point

 

 

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