solentstars Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Is Armstrong giving his time free to Sainst? I thought he was being paid by the radio station! Was Armstrong invited by the club to go into Hospitality? Did he pay to go into hospitality like everyone else? He was a great player for us and should be treated with respect but you just can't walk in wherever you want without asking or paying. nonsense i expect those in the hospitality would love to see ex saints players ,have the club got so petty to behave like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Dave Armstrong is a an ex Saints and as such should be treated with respect by the club So is Redknapp, is he welcome ? (the manager not the player) Not putting Armstrong in the same category but not all ex Saints should be given respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Doncaster gave us a wonderful picture of a train when we won at the Keepmoat earlier in the season which has pride of place in the Board Room. What do you think that our Board (presumably missing Lowe & Wilde at the end of the game) gave Donnie Directors in return? Three easy points? A picture of a sinking ship? A book on how to win friendsand influence people? A picture of another Southampton-based transport legend. A lesson of arrogant assumption. Ring any bells? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Good analogy SaintRobbie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 A picture of another Southampton-based transport legend. A lesson of arrogant assumption. Ring any bells? So long as Lowe and Wilde don't manage to get in the life boats i'll be happy i.e they lose everything when the good ship Southampton finally sinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 This is life under Chairman Lowe I am afraid. Anyone who does not blindly follow party propoganda, or dares to criticise is castigated or driven out. True Saints such as Merrington, McMenemy, Channon, Ball, Case, Armstrong etc. who dare to challenge the running of the club are branded as agitators or worse. The only one he daren't take umbrage with is Le Tiss, although of course he has a Saturday job now anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 (edited) If MLT was 'asked to leave' and it got out that Lowe and the ****roaches at PLC headquarters were responsible what do you think would be the reaction amongst us fans? F\/cking anarchy, for sure. A disgraceful episode, but not surprising given the state of affairs at our football club. Edited 18 January, 2009 by 1976_Child Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 So long as Lowe and Wilde don't manage to get in the life boats i'll be happy i.e they lose everything when the good ship Southampton finally sinks. This is not funny. I do not want the Good Ship Southampton FC to sink. I really don't. Pictures of the Titanic get me depressed. Truly. Please don't make fun of our situation like this. I love my club. I don't like the analogy you are drawing... (but seriously as well.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 This is not funny. I do not want the Good Ship Southampton FC to sink. I really don't. Pictures of the Titanic get me depressed. Truly. Please don't make fun of our situation like this. I love my club. I don't like the analogy you are drawing... (but seriously as well.) Happy is the wrong word, but seeing Lowe and Wilde lose millions will be a silver lining on a cloudy day for the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 True Saints such as.................. 'True Saints' there are few that are faithful and dependable, I would not use some on your list and believe it sad that in recent times we struggle to name more than a few, is the title too subjective, what is considered a 'True Saint' ? for me, if talking players or managers its someone who despite knowing they could earn a fortune elsewhere remained with the club, no doubt there are some off the field, staff etc.. that fall under this category but to label some of those household names as 'True Saints' is flawed imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Some of you have clearly missed the point. I appear to be wasting my time on this subject. Not at all, what would be the difference if when working for SKY, Matty walked into the Channon suite to see some friends and was asked to leave because he hadn't paid his #100??? Someone has fccuked up here, and I'm not saying it's Lowe,Wilde or Crouch, but that's a very disgraceful way to treat a player who is probably our most prolific midfielder (MLT excluded if you call him a midfielder). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityRanger Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 A little reminder of Dave Armstrong for those too young to remember: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0VSOpeYqgSI&feature=related FFS SOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 I'll be surprised if there is anyone behind this, it will be a jump up littleman of a steward getting a semi over a bit of power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offix Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 I thing he was being a bit disingenuous about what ever happen re him being chucked out of the hospitality suite. He saidf he was asked to leave by a steward which he promptly changed to being thrown out. What an apologist load of claptrap. That's like saying NP wasn't fired, but his contract was cut short. Total and utter BS! Armstrong was asked to leave? That's semantics! he was thrown out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 I have not been into the hospitality suites although I was fortunate to get invited into a private box last season against Hull. I am assuming the facilities including food and drink in the suites are free and unlimited. That is why you or your hosts pay a high premium. That usually includes a few ex players who have been asked by the club to “entertain” If any ex player just rolled up to speak to the paying public and enjoy the facilities for free it would cause the cost to go up and at a time of recession and with an already struggling club/team that needs to be carefully managed. I am assuming David just walked in to speak to friends without asking. In my opinion the action that needs to be taken now is for the Manager of the facility to carry out a full investigation within his team and report to Andrew Cowen. Andrew should then seek a meeting with David and his paymasters to get their side of the story. The club should then issue a short apology or explanation of the action. Ex players, particularly those who have been good servants of the club need to be treated with respect but they need to respect the rules and regulations of the club. It has to be a two way thing. I suspect David would have made nothing of the situation in normal circumstances but the total mismanagement of the club on the field, in the boardroom and our poor results was the final straw for a man with passion for our club. I can understand him feeling sore about his “treatment” but I hope he can now reflect, put it into context and continue his association both in media terms and as a much needed ambassador in the hospitality facilities when called upon. I hope this clarifies my comments yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 A little reminder of Dave Armstrong for those too young to remember: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0VSOpeYqgSI&feature=related FFS SOS. Wow... passing and movement forward. Not seen that for a while. When you see things like that you realise how far we've fallen since Lawrie MacMenemy/Ted Bates. Loved that clip... thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanthemanfairoak Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 I am prepared to stick my neck out and say...Lowe will never be seen at SMS again.you got a long neck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 This smells very much when Lowe dragged Graham Hiley in to the fans forum to say that was written was all Hileys doing and nothing to do with Lowe! Forgotten about that. Good point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 you got a long neck? lol I should have caveted that with...'if he has an ounce of sense'... ! But, who knows? There could be some interesting moves from people now before Norwich. There's time to make some changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Offix I am not spoiling for a fight with you at I am certainly not messing with semantics. but there is a difference in being asked to leave or being thrown out.. Im dealing with a similar case where x was claiming they were thrown out of a property (Their perception is they were physically man handled out of the building) to several others who witnessed the incident and state that x was asked to leave the property. This was done in a polite manner. So in my world there is a difference between being thrown out and being asked to leave. My main issue with dave is he should have dealt with this with far more dignity than he did. instead of venting his anger on the airways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Just seen another thread about David Armstrong Seems he is now calling for a boycott of the club. David can I ask you not to get embroiled in this matter. I agree it needs to be resolved. but I will lose all respect for you start rounding up lynch mobs to unsettle saints even further. Mob rule is not the answer. we need a totally clean sweep at board room level to take this club forward. if this means relegation and administration then so be it. I will always support saints no matter what. What has always been important to me is what and how we are playing on the field but all I seem to hear about is how to get rid of lowe etc etc. What we should be doing is encouraging the team as much as possible not slating them week after week. Our away fans are brilliant and I enjoy going more to away games now than home games. Its fun and enjoyable and the crack amongst the fans is fantastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 'True Saints' there are few that are faithful and dependable, I would not use some on your list and believe it sad that in recent times we struggle to name more than a few, is the title too subjective, what is considered a 'True Saint' ? for me, if talking players or managers its someone who despite knowing they could earn a fortune elsewhere remained with the club, no doubt there are some off the field, staff etc.. that fall under this category but to label some of those household names as 'True Saints' is flawed imo Clearly the phrase is somewhat subjective, but I was meaning those who patently had the best interests of the club at heart, and have, over the years, exhibited clear affection for it, as well as concern about it's well-being and how it has been run (and had the backbone to speak out against it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Offix I am not spoiling for a fight with you at I am certainly not messing with semantics. but there is a difference in being asked to leave or being thrown out.. Im dealing with a similar case where x was claiming they were thrown out of a property (Their perception is they were physically man handled out of the building) to several others who witnessed the incident and state that x was asked to leave the property. This was done in a polite manner. So in my world there is a difference between being thrown out and being asked to leave. My main issue with dave is he should have dealt with this with far more dignity than he did. instead of venting his anger on the airways. He said on the radio that he asked if he was being thrown out. The steward said no I am no throwing you out I am asking you to leave to which he replied well what would you do if I refused? At no point did he change his story to say he was thrown out, he said he believed that being thrown out and asked to leave amounted to the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 I have not been into the hospitality suites although I was fortunate to get invited into a private box last season against Hull. I am assuming the facilities including food and drink in the suites are free and unlimited. That is why you or your hosts pay a high premium. That usually includes a few ex players who have been asked by the club to “entertain” If any ex player just rolled up to speak to the paying public and enjoy the facilities for free it would cause the cost to go up and at a time of recession and with an already struggling club/team that needs to be carefully managed. I am assuming David just walked in to speak to friends without asking. In my opinion the action that needs to be taken now is for the Manager of the facility to carry out a full investigation within his team and report to Andrew Cowen. Andrew should then seek a meeting with David and his paymasters to get their side of the story. The club should then issue a short apology or explanation of the action. Ex players, particularly those who have been good servants of the club need to be treated with respect but they need to respect the rules and regulations of the club. It has to be a two way thing. I suspect David would have made nothing of the situation in normal circumstances but the total mismanagement of the club on the field, in the boardroom and our poor results was the final straw for a man with passion for our club. I can understand him feeling sore about his “treatment” but I hope he can now reflect, put it into context and continue his association both in media terms and as a much needed ambassador in the hospitality facilities when called upon. I hope this clarifies my comments yesterday I am sorry WS. I always look out for your posts and respect your views but I have to strongly disagree with you here. Many people pay their money for corporate and one of the main reasons is to see ex players like Armstrong and maybe to have chat with their boyhood heroes. If someone had used just an ounce of common sense then they would see the clear benefits of Armstrong being there. Apparently two of the tables were guests that he had invited so I just can't imagine why the club would not be as welcoming as possible so such a great servant of this club. Its not how the mindsight of the club should work, it's just wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 ANd you have to ask yourself, was Dave there purely for the benefit of himself? I very much doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Perhaps I have taken this view because I steward Hospitality at the Rosebowl and Goodwood Horseracing where the cost per person is much higher than SMS and can see from the inside. There is a way of handling such situations but without knowing the full facts it is difficult to be objective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Perhaps I have taken this view because I steward Hospitality at the Rosebowl and Goodwood Horseracing where the cost per person is much higher than SMS and can see from the inside. There is a way of handling such situations but without knowing the full facts it is difficult to be objective. If Mark Nicholas or Daivd Gower were commentating for SKY and wandered into the Hampshire Suite or the Robin Smith Suite for a chat with friends would you eject them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 If Mark Nicholas or Daivd Gower were commentating for SKY and wandered into the Hampshire Suite or the Robin Smith Suite for a chat with friends would you eject them? No because they usually will ask the club first. Sky tend to keep to their own area and the ex players tend to go into the dressing room rather than the hospitality area unless invited. If they did it is so rare there is unlikely to be a problem but I take my lead from the hospitality manager. Same at Goodwood. Our instructions are those with badges only but if a box holder brings an owner or a trainer in to talk to his group Goodwood say that is acceptable. A balance has to be drawn but I cannot really be objective without the full facts. I was merely putting a point of view that seems out of kilt with the ordinary supporter on here. I can live with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Pretty sad day really for all sorts of reasons. There's nothing like and over reaction to make a drama out of a crisis. You have to have some sort of control over who goes into the Mike Channon suite otherwise you would get people like me slipping in for a free drink. DA should expect no different treatment. I suspect any disparaging comments on the club were irrelevant to him being asked to leave but it could have been done with more sensitivity (unless of course, David was already pumped up and looking for a scrap!). Its so difficult to be objective though. The MLT analogy was a good one. Turn it round the other way - if MLT was Chairman and Rupert had 'slipped in' for a quiet word, I doubt whether many on here would be complaining about his treatment. Yesterday was a bad day but in reality we do appear incapable of stringing two good results together. All we can really do is move on and hope for a reaction in the next game. After all, most would be happy with just survival this season. And to finish one place above relegation is still possible given our AWAY form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Pretty sad day really for all sorts of reasons. There's nothing like and over reaction to make a drama out of a crisis. You have to have some sort of control over who goes into the Mike Channon suite otherwise you would get people like me slipping in for a free drink. DA should expect no different treatment. I suspect any disparaging comments on the club were irrelevant to him being asked to leave but it could have been done with more sensitivity (unless of course, David was already pumped up and looking for a scrap!). Its so difficult to be objective though. The MLT analogy was a good one. Turn it round the other way - if MLT was Chairman and Rupert had 'slipped in' for a quiet word, I doubt whether many on here would be complaining about his treatment. Yesterday was a bad day but in reality we do appear incapable of stringing two good results together. All we can really do is move on and hope for a reaction in the next game. After all, most would be happy with just survival this season. And to finish one place above relegation is still possible given our AWAY form. A) He wasn't in there for a free drink, he said that himself B) Of course he should be treated differently to you! Unless you are Mick Channon and I have didn't realise, in which case I apologise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Hypo We only have one side of what happen re Dave Armstrong and I want to hear both sides of the argument first. not a one sided event. The times I have had to investigate allegations made by somebody who claims they have been wronged and only to find out they were the perpertrator. If I take your analagy. then those that state they were wronged in the first instance will always be right. Surely not Again I try to clarify the point I was making. Dave shuld have left it off the airways but he acted like a child who had had his teddy thrown in the corner. Clearly something angered him but his comments on the airways were far from helpful in an already tense atmosphere. I hope um pahars is able to shed some light on what actually occurred and if the steward in hospitality was out of order then the club should do something about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Ex players, should not be treated like this. I am sure Mick would be disgusted , that an ex team mate was treated like this in a suite that beared his name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 I was listening last night and it wasn`t David Armstrong that brought this up. It was his co- presenter. DA seemed a bit unprepared and embarrassed when it was mentioned, but then explained what had happened. I don`t know the facts anymore than anyone else, but I suspect that the last thing on his mind was to get a free drink!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey Posted 20 January, 2009 Share Posted 20 January, 2009 http://m6live.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/4059685.Armstrong_furious_at_Channon_Suite_ejection/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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EastleighSoulBoy Posted 20 January, 2009 Share Posted 20 January, 2009 http://m6live.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/4059685.Armstrong_furious_at_Channon_Suite_ejection/ Oh David you silly boy! You should have handed over the requisite fee for a ticket and they would not have thrown you out! More seriously, do the club really expect us to believe this claptrap they've peddled to the Echo? Sad and dark days for us all, with more to come I fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 20 January, 2009 Share Posted 20 January, 2009 http://m6live.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/4059685.Armstrong_furious_at_Channon_Suite_ejection/ Oh David you silly boy! You should have handed over the requisite fee for a ticket and they would not have thrown you out! More seriously, do the club really expect us to believe this claptrap they've peddled to the Echo? Sad and dark days for us all, with more to come I fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 20 January, 2009 Share Posted 20 January, 2009 Oh David you silly boy! You should have handed over the requisite fee for a ticket and they would not have thrown you out! More seriously, do the club really expect us to believe this claptrap they've peddled to the Echo? Sad and dark days for us all, with more to come I fear. Its such a poor excuse of an explanation. I was expecting them to say something along the lines of: 'We are sorry for the embarrasing situation that led to Dave Armstrong being asked to leave, but unfortunately one of our staff failed to recognise him. Our sincere apologise have been sent to Mr Armstrong to whom we hope will carry on being a good ambassador for the club' I wonder if they would throw Le Tiss out if he didn't have a ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 20 January, 2009 Share Posted 20 January, 2009 Oh David you silly boy! You should have handed over the requisite fee for a ticket and they would not have thrown you out! More seriously, do the club really expect us to believe this claptrap they've peddled to the Echo? Sad and dark days for us all, with more to come I fear. Its such a poor excuse of an explanation. I was expecting them to say something along the lines of: 'We are sorry for the embarrasing situation that led to Dave Armstrong being asked to leave, but unfortunately one of our staff failed to recognise him. Our sincere apologise have been sent to Mr Armstrong to whom we hope will carry on being a good ambassador for the club' I wonder if they would throw Le Tiss out if he didn't have a ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 20 January, 2009 Share Posted 20 January, 2009 Dave Armstrong was a great player and servant for the club and as many have pointed out should be treated with the respect he deserves. However, I am only speculating here, he is known for his strong views that he airs on the radio which is fine and he is perfectly entitled to say hat he believes and be respected for it. If however, he was at the club in some sort of hospitality function either officially or unofficially, and was openly critical in an area wher club sponsors, suppliers and associates were then he should in that case hopefully have been more restrained. That would go for any walk of life. If you go to a party and slag of the hosts (speculation again), dont eb surprized if you dont get asked back ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 20 January, 2009 Share Posted 20 January, 2009 Dave Armstrong was a great player and servant for the club and as many have pointed out should be treated with the respect he deserves. However, I am only speculating here, he is known for his strong views that he airs on the radio which is fine and he is perfectly entitled to say hat he believes and be respected for it. If however, he was at the club in some sort of hospitality function either officially or unofficially, and was openly critical in an area wher club sponsors, suppliers and associates were then he should in that case hopefully have been more restrained. That would go for any walk of life. If you go to a party and slag of the hosts (speculation again), dont eb surprized if you dont get asked back ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 20 January, 2009 Share Posted 20 January, 2009 Dave Armstrong was a great player and servant for the club and as many have pointed out should be treated with the respect he deserves. However' date=' I am only speculating here, he is known for his strong views that he airs on the radio which is fine and he is perfectly entitled to say hat he believes and be respected for it. [b']If however[/b], he was at the club in some sort of hospitality function either officially or unofficially, and was openly critical in an area wher club sponsors, suppliers and associates were then he should in that case hopefully have been more restrained. That would go for any walk of life. If you go to a party and slag of the hosts (speculation again), dont eb surprized if you dont get asked back ... That is an "If" though, we dont know that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 20 January, 2009 Share Posted 20 January, 2009 Dave Armstrong was a great player and servant for the club and as many have pointed out should be treated with the respect he deserves. However' date=' I am only speculating here, he is known for his strong views that he airs on the radio which is fine and he is perfectly entitled to say hat he believes and be respected for it. [b']If however[/b], he was at the club in some sort of hospitality function either officially or unofficially, and was openly critical in an area wher club sponsors, suppliers and associates were then he should in that case hopefully have been more restrained. That would go for any walk of life. If you go to a party and slag of the hosts (speculation again), dont eb surprized if you dont get asked back ... That is an "If" though, we dont know that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 20 January, 2009 Share Posted 20 January, 2009 That is an "If" though, we dont know that! BUt according to some he was an 'abassador'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 20 January, 2009 Share Posted 20 January, 2009 That is an "If" though, we dont know that! BUt according to some he was an 'abassador'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 20 January, 2009 Share Posted 20 January, 2009 Dave Armstrong was a great player and servant for the club and as many have pointed out should be treated with the respect he deserves. However' date=' I am only speculating here, he is known for his strong views that he airs on the radio which is fine and he is perfectly entitled to say hat he believes and be respected for it. If however, he was at the club in some sort of hospitality function either officially or unofficially, and was openly critical in an area wher club sponsors, suppliers and associates were then he should in that case hopefully have been more restrained. That would go for any walk of life. If you go to a party and slag of the hosts (speculation again), dont eb surprized if you dont get asked back ...[/quote'] Would a quite word in his ear not have been a better approach ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 20 January, 2009 Share Posted 20 January, 2009 Dave Armstrong was a great player and servant for the club and as many have pointed out should be treated with the respect he deserves. However' date=' I am only speculating here, he is known for his strong views that he airs on the radio which is fine and he is perfectly entitled to say hat he believes and be respected for it. If however, he was at the club in some sort of hospitality function either officially or unofficially, and was openly critical in an area wher club sponsors, suppliers and associates were then he should in that case hopefully have been more restrained. That would go for any walk of life. If you go to a party and slag of the hosts (speculation again), dont eb surprized if you dont get asked back ...[/quote'] Would a quite word in his ear not have been a better approach ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 20 January, 2009 Share Posted 20 January, 2009 Would a quite word in his ear not have been a better approach ? Sure, but we dont know the details and only have one side of the story... especially as these are very sensitive times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 20 January, 2009 Share Posted 20 January, 2009 Would a quite word in his ear not have been a better approach ? Sure, but we dont know the details and only have one side of the story... especially as these are very sensitive times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 20 January, 2009 Share Posted 20 January, 2009 Sure' date=' but we dont know the details and only have one side of the story... especially as these are very sensitive times?[/quote'] The sponsors use the Terry Paine suite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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