Roboze Posted 21 May, 2018 Posted 21 May, 2018 i think he as the capability to be our lynchpin, and it looks like Hughes is instilled that belief in him, i realise that he has gone missing for large parts of the last two seasons! but ridiculous as it sounds, i think he just wants to be loved!! lol, on the flipside the worrying thing is if he nails on an outstanding season, we will struggle to keep him.......football is a *****!
alpine_saint Posted 22 May, 2018 Posted 22 May, 2018 Hes had the wrong management for 2 years. On the other hand, he didnt get on with Koeman either. If/when Sparky is confirmed, I would also like to see how we shape up with Tadic in the team.
Batman Posted 22 May, 2018 Posted 22 May, 2018 He has to stay. May not be the best but would cost a huge amount to replace in a time when we have to chop and change a fair few players
SuperSAINT Posted 22 May, 2018 Posted 22 May, 2018 Lots of talk Ajax want him, but can't see them paying a lot for a 29 year old. Hopefully he stays.
Saint86 Posted 22 May, 2018 Posted 22 May, 2018 He was noticeably better and more like his old self under Hughes... Go figure, the first manager since Koeman that attacked teams... all of a sudden, our main chance creator looks better. Keep him for me.
Toadhall Saint Posted 22 May, 2018 Posted 22 May, 2018 He has to stay. May not be the best but would cost a huge amount to replace in a time when we have to chop and change a fair few players This
DT Posted 22 May, 2018 Posted 22 May, 2018 Probably worth remembering he was gash for most of the season, but definitely has great skill that Hughes has shown he could harness. Hope we keep him but think he'll be off.
mrfahaji Posted 22 May, 2018 Posted 22 May, 2018 Playing slow possession football encourages the opposition to deploy a high pressing tactic, and Tadic struggles in those conditions. He's best against teams who allow him more time and space on the ball. E.g. he's consistently played well against Arsenal, and he also had some good spells against Bournemouth in the 0-0 under Puel if I recall. I think that's probably part of the reason he struggled in Puel & Pellegrino sides. He is always looking for that killer pass, but to make it you require players to make forward runs, something we rarely did. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure he will still have poor patches, but hopefully not as many or for as long next season! We also miss him a lot when he doesn't play because he is the only real 'creator' we have in the side.
mattyd Posted 22 May, 2018 Posted 22 May, 2018 Of all the players I would like to replace is Tadic (with others mind) because I think he lacks consistency and only worked hard when the possibility of relegation became serious. A good player but he needs a new challenge.
Saint Garrett Posted 22 May, 2018 Posted 22 May, 2018 We must keep Tadic. Agree. One of our best players. The talk of him not being arsed is just an easy thing to say given he's an attacking foreign player.
Baird of the land Posted 22 May, 2018 Posted 22 May, 2018 Yep hoping he stays. If we can get the right speedster to complement his skillful play that would be ideal.
SuperSAINT Posted 22 May, 2018 Posted 22 May, 2018 Build a team around him IMO. Yep hoping he stays. If we can get the right speedster to complement his skillful play that would be ideal. I think there's something to be said for bringing in players that he can find & will actually finish off chances he creates. Has been our problem for 2 seasons.
igsey Posted 22 May, 2018 Posted 22 May, 2018 He's not perfect. But an upgrade is well out of our budget. I hope he has a good World Cup, he's Serbia's best player and they are very much built around him, if he can have a good tournament then he may bring some extra confidence back to Southampton with him.
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 22 May, 2018 Posted 22 May, 2018 I'd definitely keep but we need more options so that he can fall out of the side when he is in one of his out of form spells
mrfahaji Posted 22 May, 2018 Posted 22 May, 2018 He's not perfect. But an upgrade is well out of our budget. I hope he has a good World Cup, he's Serbia's best player and they are very much built around him, if he can have a good tournament then he may bring some extra confidence back to Southampton with him. Either that or attract interest from other clubs and cause him to force a move... sorry for the negativity but that's what happened to future-club-legend Jose Fonte! Agree about the upgrade/budget though. Players who score goals, followed by those that can create them, are the most precious commodities in football.
Junior Mullet Posted 22 May, 2018 Posted 22 May, 2018 A lot of very good teams are after Tadic. I hope we do manage to keep him.
Matthew Le God Posted 22 May, 2018 Posted 22 May, 2018 The link with Ajax is odd, Saints can blow them out of the water for wages. Hard to see how they could afford Tadic. 2016/17 Ajax wage bill = £35m Saints wage bill = £112m
Dellman Posted 22 May, 2018 Posted 22 May, 2018 His two goals against Bournemouth marked the turning point for us and for him. Keep him under a proper manager and we'll see the best of him
SuperSAINT Posted 22 May, 2018 Posted 22 May, 2018 The link with Ajax is odd, Saints can blow them out of the water for wages. Hard to see how they could afford Tadic. 2016/17 Ajax wage bill = £35m Saints wage bill = £112m Plus his transfer fee & age.
Dark Munster Posted 22 May, 2018 Posted 22 May, 2018 I think there's something to be said for bringing in players that he can find & will actually finish off chances he creates. Has been our problem for 2 seasons. This ^
Faz Posted 22 May, 2018 Posted 22 May, 2018 The number of times Tadic has put balls through either for Austin to be too slow to use, or for Long to get on the end of and miss. If it's a target man up front, you need Tadic out wide and crossing regularly. He created more for Pelle, but despite being slow, Pelle was faster than Austin and had better movement. You'd think Tadic could pick out Gabbiadini best of our strikers, but they didn't get to play much together this season for some reason. IF we were sticking with 3-4-3, then I think you need the most mobile front 3 possible. Still think Chelsea looked better with Hazard/Pedro/Willian up front than their actual big strikers. Rather we went Tadic/Gabbiadini and a new signing up top than stick with Austin. And yet he doesn't seem able to pick out gabbi. If those two could click.........
buctootim Posted 22 May, 2018 Posted 22 May, 2018 Either that or attract interest from other clubs and cause him to force a move... sorry for the negativity but that's what happened to future-club-legend Jose Fonte! He's not going to get any better at 29. if he has a good WC and we get a great offer then i'd let him go. It would be a good decision, just as it was with Fonte .
Forester Posted 22 May, 2018 Posted 22 May, 2018 Haven’t seen an update lately, but a year or so back he was in the Premier League top five assists for the period since he arrived. Massively underrated in my opinion, typical flair player who is always going to have moments that disappoint but a good team should be able to have a place for those types. Works much harder for the team than is given credit too.
saintwbu Posted 22 May, 2018 Posted 22 May, 2018 And yet he doesn't seem able to pick out gabbi. If those two could click......... I always feel like this is because Tadic often delays the final ball, meaning Gabbi has already made his move and has to adjust and get back onside again. With Pelle it's okay because if the run has gone then you can just put it in the air and he'll win it, Gabbi can't do that. But it does seem like a match made in heaven so hopefully we see the benefit.
Golden Balls Posted 22 May, 2018 Posted 22 May, 2018 I think we have to keep him. People moan about his consistency but if he was consistent, he'd have left 2-3 years ago. Replacing him for someone better would likely cost a lot more than we could sell him for with wages probably higher than his.
SaintTex Posted 22 May, 2018 Posted 22 May, 2018 have. to. keep. If you have a manager who puts him in positions/schemes that play to his strengths, good things will happen. I think Mark Hughes recognizes that. I hope he does anyway.
Matthew Le God Posted 4 June, 2018 Posted 4 June, 2018 Press here still claiming the Ajax deal could be on. I struggle to see how they could afford his wages.
Micky Posted 4 June, 2018 Posted 4 June, 2018 Has to stay for me. Showed a lot of bottle at the business end of the season, (yeah I know, but everybody was culpable for the front end of the season) showed what he could do under a decent manager and with a bit of confidence instilled in the side as a whole. I'm a fan.
LaptopSaint Posted 4 June, 2018 Posted 4 June, 2018 Has to stay for me. Showed a lot of bottle at the business end of the season, (yeah I know, but everybody was culpable for the front end of the season) showed what he could do under a decent manager and with a bit of confidence instilled in the side as a whole. I'm a fan. Agreed. A lot of people think he goes missing, and he gets some ridiculous stick on here. But I’ve always rated him, and when it really mattered he was one of those who wasn’t afraid to stand up and be counted.
Dr. Kucho Posted 4 June, 2018 Posted 4 June, 2018 I struggle to see how they could afford his wages. Ajax are loaded with cash. They have been making millions over the last few years with player sales, and likely to do again this summer with the sales of Kluivert, Ziyech and de Ligt (the sale of de Ligt is likely to be around 60 million euro). I agree that Tadic isn’t the kind of signing Ajax would normally do.
Matthew Le God Posted 4 June, 2018 Posted 4 June, 2018 I struggle to see how they could afford his wages. Ajax are loaded with cash. That is not reflected in their wage budget... 2016/17 Ajax wage bill = £35m Saints wage bill = £112m Saints can blow Ajax out of the water for wages. I doubt they'd come close to what we pay Tadic.
corky morris Posted 5 June, 2018 Posted 5 June, 2018 I would happily get rid. Think he was very poor last season, with the odd exception. Shaqiri is better........
mrfahaji Posted 5 June, 2018 Posted 5 June, 2018 He's not going to get any better at 29. if he has a good WC and we get a great offer then i'd let him go. It would be a good decision, just as it was with Fonte . 29 isn’t old though. Jesus I hope not else that makes me positively ancient! Fonte was 33 wasn’t he? Tadic has a couple of good years yet. Of course it depends on the amount we could get. We need to be able to recruit someone who creates chances and they don’t usually come cheap. Someone offers £25m, then I agree with you. Someone offers £10m, I don’t.
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