kwsaint Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 A perfect opportunity for the Russians to take revenge for Salisbury... Kiev is in Ukraine. They don't like the Russians very much, so uncle Les is probably safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Poch signs new 5 year deal at Spurs. #NoHolidaysAtTottenham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintMB Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Must be a London thing that managers can sign contracts before the end of May. Oh, and in Stoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Les Reed is in Kiev Wrong. Les Reed is in S****horpe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Benali Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Not surprised we have no money with Reed handing out monster contracts to just about anyone. Forster/Long etc oh and of course himself last summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Not surprised we have no money with Reed handing out monster contracts to just about anyone. Forster/Long etc oh and of course himself last summer. He doesn't give himself a contract! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Poch signs new 5 year deal at Spurs. #NoHolidaysAtTottenham That is disappointing news... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red&white56 Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Poch signs new 5 year deal at Spurs. #NoHolidaysAtTottenham Now he needs to win something and with 5 years inked on the contract this is his moment..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Surprised Poch signed on again. Does this mean Levy will now put the money down to fund a real push for Top 4, even winning it? Based on Spurs unwillingness to break their pay structure, so not attracting and retaining players deemed to be the best around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Does this mean Levy will now put the money down to fund a real push for Top 4 They have been in the top 4 for the last 3 seasons in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Surprised Poch signed on again. Does this mean Levy will now put the money down to fund a real push for Top 4, even winning it? Based on Spurs unwillingness to break their pay structure, so not attracting and retaining players deemed to be the best around. I'm assuming big transfer extensions will be imminent with key players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Message I've had is that nothing has changed insomuch as that the deal was agreed and Hughes flew off on his jollies whilst the lawyers did their thing and the deal gets signed on his return. I've no reason to doubt this. Truth be told though, he still wouldn't be my 1st choice as having met him a few times I think he's a c**k and the fact that managers who help a club survive rarely go on to be a success at that club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 If things don't change then it will be another season preparing for 17th. In business terms the ideal scenario. Mimimum outlay, maximum return and feed the fans a load of BS. Trouble is, the Dalek sees it every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 If Hughes is playing hardball to get a better contract or agreements over transfer budgets, going on holiday in the middle of negotiations is certainly one way to assert yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyboy Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 If things don't change then it will be another season preparing for 17th. In business terms the ideal scenario. Mimimum outlay, maximum return and feed the fans a load of BS. Trouble is, the Dalek sees it every year. Trouble is you spout the same drivel year on year , ever tried a new direction ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Message I've had is that nothing has changed insomuch as that the deal was agreed and Hughes flew off on his jollies whilst the lawyers did their thing and the deal gets signed on his return. I've no reason to doubt this. Truth be told though, he still wouldn't be my 1st choice as having met him a few times I think he's a c**k and the fact that managers who help a club survive rarely go on to be a success at that club. thanks for the info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Trouble is you spout the same drivel year on year , ever tried a new direction ! Yep, when the club try a new direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Message I've had is that nothing has changed insomuch as that the deal was agreed and Hughes flew off on his jollies whilst the lawyers did their thing and the deal gets signed on his return. I've no reason to doubt this. Truth be told though, he still wouldn't be my 1st choice as having met him a few times I think he's a c**k and the fact that managers who help a club survive rarely go on to be a success at that club. Thanks for the info. Paul Clement at Swansea springs to mind re your last point. Your message is not calamitous enough to fit the present tone of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 If things don't change then it will be another season preparing for 17th. In business terms the ideal scenario. Mimimum outlay, maximum return and feed the fans a load of BS. Trouble is, the Dalek sees it every year. Are you related to Trump? Maybe a son even less loved than Eric? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 I'm assuming big transfer extensions will be imminent with key players. I'm assuming they'll get more compensation when he goes to Real Madrid. It's the 'everybody happy' approach to modern footie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Johnson Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 I wonder if this is to do with the consultation the government have announced on IR35 legislation in the private sector. I'd imagine this could have an impact if a manager (on a fixed contract) isn't on on PAYE and operates out of their own limited company for tax reasons. As its likely to come in during the April 2019/2020 tax year they could be structuring a deal that ensures Hughes gets the same take home he would of outside of IR35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 I wonder if this is to do with the consultation the government have announced on IR35 legislation in the private sector. I'd imagine this could have an impact if a manager (on a fixed contract) isn't on on PAYE and operates out of their own limited company for tax reasons. As its likely to come in during the April 2019/2020 tax year they could be structuring a deal that ensures Hughes gets the same take home he would of outside of IR35Of course, why didn't I think of that. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 I can’t help but think the Boardroom are about to continue the standard summer mistakes. No confirmation of Hughes or not, player uncertainty, best players shortly applying to go, no investment, Boardroom discussion about how we can survive another year no problem without significant investment.... Regardless whether it’s not true one thing is undeniable. Week 2 of the end of the season mirrors the last 4 years of summer disasters.... Prove me wrong please. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 I can’t help but think the Boardroom are about to continue the standard summer mistakes. No confirmation of Hughes or not, player uncertainty, best players shortly applying to go, no investment, Boardroom discussion about how we can survive another year no problem without significant investment.... Regardless whether it’s not true one thing is undeniable. Week 2 of the end of the season mirrors the last 4 years of summer disasters.... Prove me wrong please. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Yes, it happens on a regular basis. I was hoping our near relegation would shake the Board from its complacency and arrogance. Maybe not. Relegation might have to happen for a change in attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Message I've had is that nothing has changed insomuch as that the deal was agreed and Hughes flew off on his jollies whilst the lawyers did their thing and the deal gets signed on his return. I've no reason to doubt this. Truth be told though, he still wouldn't be my 1st choice as having met him a few times I think he's a c**k and the fact that managers who help a club survive rarely go on to be a success at that club.Fair enough. Cheers VFTT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Fulham go up, we get Mark Hughes. Fulham don't, we talk to Jokanovic? Or perhaps it really is holiday/lawyers/transfer demands Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Yep, when the club try a new direction. Good answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 If things don't change then it will be another season preparing for 17th. In business terms the ideal scenario. Mimimum outlay, maximum return and feed the fans a load of BS. Trouble is, the Dalek sees it every year. You might need to see a Dr or an optician then. You've managed 1 correct prediction in 15 years. Your win % is less than MoPe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 You might need to see a Dr or an optician then. You've managed 1 correct prediction in 15 years. Your win % is less than MoPe. Snig ger.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Benali Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 He doesn't give himself a contract! Then who does? And are you saying he didn't sign a new contract last summer under a new title? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Then who does? And are you saying he didn't sign a new contract last summer under a new title? He's not the grand master some are perciving him to be. although he has a large impact on football matters, his role is overseen by Ralph/KL etc. They are the people who would have offered him any new contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Fulham go up, we get Mark Hughes. Fulham don't, we talk to Jokanovic? Or perhaps it really is holiday/lawyers/transfer demands Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Jokanovic was my choice after Puel went. If Fulham don't come up then we'd me missing a great opportunity by not approaching him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Jokanovic was my choice after Puel went. If Fulham don't come up then we'd me missing a great opportunity by not approaching him. Usually I think you chat absolute sh_it but on this I agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musesaint Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 God Saints are a shambles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Usually I think you chat absolute sh_it but on this I agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 You might need to see a Dr or an optician then. You've managed 1 correct prediction in 15 years. Your win % is less than MoPe. You're not comparing the same thing though are you? Technically MoPe should achieve a 33% win percentage to hit bang average (i.e. law of averages would be a win, draw and a lost out of 3 games.) Darlek is predicting league finish, so has a 5% chance of a correct prediction. By predicting it right once in 15 years he has outclassed average expectations and by default achieved a higher success rate than MoPe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 You're not comparing the same thing though are you? Technically MoPe should achieve a 33% win percentage to hit bang average (i.e. law of averages would be a win, draw and a lost out of 3 games.) Darlek is predicting league finish, so has a 5% chance of a correct prediction. By predicting it right once in 15 years he has outclassed average expectations and by default achieved a higher success rate than MoPe. Ahh but you have to enter in a division factor that Dalek is a massive annoyingly repetitive bellend with a Hoddle fixation. That puts MoPe ahead by a whisker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpin4rizeal Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 why is everyone so crazy over jokanovic? is his record much better then eddie howe or adkins ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Message I've had is that nothing has changed insomuch as that the deal was agreed and Hughes flew off on his jollies whilst the lawyers did their thing and the deal gets signed on his return. I've no reason to doubt this. Truth be told though, he still wouldn't be my 1st choice as having met him a few times I think he's a c**k and the fact that managers who help a club survive rarely go on to be a success at that club. On the other hand people I know who know MH tell me his coaching team, MB and EN, are well regarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 why is everyone so crazy over jokanovic? is his record much better then eddie howe or adkins ? It’s because he has a fancy name. Same love in for Marco Silva. Sure he might be good but still a huge risk just like Puel and MoPe were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Trouble is you spout the same drivel year on year , ever tried a new direction ! What, when he just got one right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 25 May, 2018 Share Posted 25 May, 2018 Remember a couple of years ago when several top class managers were suggested like Tuchel and Pellegrini? Does this mean that Les is delaying a Hughes signing as he is waiting to pounce if Maurizio Sarri doesn't end up at Chelsea. I know, I know :mcinnes: but I am just trying to lighten the mood on here somewhat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 25 May, 2018 Share Posted 25 May, 2018 Jokanovic would be exactly the same as Puel and Pellegrino. Continental knob jockey fixated on possession and the press. Same as Emery. Sick of it. Might have mentioned it before. I am hoping when Hughes gets back from leave its virtual pistols at dawn between him and Les and its Les they carry out feet first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 25 May, 2018 Share Posted 25 May, 2018 Jokanovic would be exactly the same as Puel and Pellegrino. Continental knob jockey fixated on possession and the press. Same as Emery. Sick of it. Might have mentioned it before. I am hoping when Hughes gets back from leave its virtual pistols at dawn between him and Les and its Les they carry out feet first. What like Pep and Poch? lets hope Hughes is up for some good old fashioned 4-4-2 with a big man little man combo up top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granite_City_Saint Posted 25 May, 2018 Share Posted 25 May, 2018 You're not comparing the same thing though are you? Technically MoPe should achieve a 33% win percentage to hit bang average (i.e. law of averages would be a win, draw and a lost out of 3 games.) Darlek is predicting league finish, so has a 5% chance of a correct prediction. By predicting it right once in 15 years he has outclassed average expectations and by default achieved a higher success rate than MoPe. Actually, assuming we have an equal chance of finishing in each position and 20 teams in the league, he has only a 46% chance of being wrong every year for 15 years. So, it is just more likely than not to be right at least once. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpweySaint Posted 25 May, 2018 Share Posted 25 May, 2018 Jokanovic would be exactly the same as Puel and Pellegrino. Continental knob jockey fixated on possession and the press. Same as Emery. Sick of it. Might have mentioned it before. I am hoping when Hughes gets back from leave its virtual pistols at dawn between him and Les and its Les they carry out feet first. Not sure his nationality is particularly relevant to anything other than your own prejudices. For what it's worth we played a relatively high press under Adkins - that Northerner! We played arguably our best football in the last decade under Poch who was very much focused on possession and pressing. What's more some of the best footballing sides around currently, Liverpool and City, play this way! Jokanovic has had relative success already in England and elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 25 May, 2018 Share Posted 25 May, 2018 Jokanovic has had relative success already in England and elsewhere. Agreed, but would you seriously be happy with a guy who's best performance in England is taking a team to 3rd in the 2nd division? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 25 May, 2018 Share Posted 25 May, 2018 It doesn’t amaze me that Hughes has not been announced yet, but what does is that the club expects ST sales while no manager is in place and the squad is not confirmed. Can you imagine going to West Quay and at the doors there are guys ready to take £700 from you - “you can come in and look around, although ultimately we can’t guarantee we’ve got anything that you want...but have fun!”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 25 May, 2018 Share Posted 25 May, 2018 It doesn’t amaze me that Hughes has not been announced yet, but what does is that the club expects ST sales while no manager is in place and the squad is not confirmed. Can you imagine going to West Quay and at the doors there are guys ready to take £700 from you - “you can come in and look around, although ultimately we can’t guarantee we’ve got anything that you want...but have fun!”. The same thing crossed my mind a couple of days ago. I think it shows the degree to which the people that run the club arent in touch with the fan base or real world come to think of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 25 May, 2018 Share Posted 25 May, 2018 It doesn’t amaze me that Hughes has not been announced yet, but what does is that the club expects ST sales while no manager is in place and the squad is not confirmed. Can you imagine going to West Quay and at the doors there are guys ready to take £700 from you - “you can come in and look around, although ultimately we can’t guarantee we’ve got anything that you want...but have fun!”. Well put. I for one wont be spending another penny at that club until Gao shows some sort of commitment to investing in players, the very minimum we need to do is invest all of the VVD money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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