mrfahaji Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 I think perhaps the main cause for the angst is that it's not just the "usual ill-informed posters" that have suggested/hinted that the Hughes announcement would be done and dusted by now but that the usual club media organs have also implied/stated as such since the end of the season. Even dear old Ralph was dropping not so subtle hints that it was a rubberstamping exercise a couple of weeks ago. But that said, whilst I'm curious as to why there is a percieved delay, I'm not about to join the mouth frothing brigade any time soon Sent from my Moto G (5) Plus using Tapatalk Yeah, at least wait until the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosin Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Im not stressing, MH is currently still under contract till end of season ( which is not the same date as the last game of the season, officially its the end of this month ( 1 day before the transfer window opens). I heard he is defo signing, I would like to think we will spend quit a bit seeing how badly we have performed this season, maybe waiting for transfer market to officially open on the 1st to announce MH and a signing at same time ( Maybe Promes, maybe some one else ) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Aside from Gao, I don’t think there is anyone at the influence level at the club who is actually a businessman, hence the dithering by committee, Les Read sports coach worked at the FA wrote a book, Ralph Kruger sports coach wrote a book, Ross Wilson stumbled into football at Falkirk, found himself a role on the coat tales of the game. None of them from what I can tell have had a position in business where a decisive descision needs to be taken, striking while the iron is hot. The Coates family binned of Sparky early on when things weren’t quite right up at Stoke, Saints dithered for 2 months more, they binned of Lambert as soon as the season was done, in the modern competitive world of betting Bet 365, their main business, they can’t shilly shally of a descision that keeps their business at the top of their game. The dildo brothers at West Ham, they maybe objects of mirth due to the source of their wealth, but in reality the pair of them are business men who have made a lot of money selling titilation (you can imagine there is a fine line between a bit of naughty and pornography) Moyes kept them up, they felt Moyes wasn’t right to move forward with binned him off and pulled a rabbit out of the hat appointing Pellegrini on a “pay cut”. We haven’t had a cold hard face business man at the upper escelons of the club since Cortese was binned off, and before anyone says “what about Ms Liebherr she took on her late fathers businesses” Cortese was also removed from the board at Male the company Markus built and made his money, a comment to come out of that company after Cortese left was that it had gone from a company with drive to a company pretty much just floating along directionless. So in reality it’s little wonder it’s taking so long, we have an owner who bought a pretty bangle, with a board who have in reality never actually made true hardfaced decisive business decision in their working lives. Plenty of chat but nobody putting their balls on the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Surely every football manager on the planet knows that if he joins SFC he will not have a shed load of money to spend on transfers. Mark Hughes will know that better than most given the time he has spent in the Premiership. If the rumours are true then more fool him if he thinks they are suddenly going to give him a huge wedge to play with. We are not the only club who have to sell to buy. Even the "mighty" Spurs have to balance their books. If this is the sticking point then it would seem very odd that Hughes is prepared to gamble away a job he supposedly wants on a point that he isnt going to win. It is more likely that there is no rush as everything is going to plan and the club are relaxed about when the official announcement is made. Or not......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Im not stressing, MH is currently still under contract till end of season ( which is not the same date as the last game of the season, officially its the end of this month ( 1 day before the transfer window opens). I heard he is defo signing, I would like to think we will spend quit a bit seeing how badly we have performed this season, maybe waiting for transfer market to officially open on the 1st to announce MH and a signing at same time ( Maybe Promes, maybe some one else ) . I thought the transfer window was already open? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjosaint Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 It is and has been for 2wks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 It fits the established behaviour pattern of the club. We know all about established behaviour patterns on this board.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintLondon Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Surely there must be a genuine ITK who has a little more knowledge on the situation? I wouldn't have been overly concerned if it hadn't been for the classic mouthpieces of the club letting us know the deal was imminent. As has been said on here many times over on this thread there wouldn't have been an overwhelming clamour of appreciation for Mark Hughes at the beginning of last season but we are where are and as it stands it seems the players have responded very well to MH so it makes sense to give him the job whilst we consolidate. Any reluctance from Mark Hughes part at this moment should be seen as rather worrying because from Ralph and Mark - there was nothing other than to suggest this was a formality and if this is no longer the case then it means that we're moving the goalposts (excuse the pun). MH won't be offered a better opportunity than this in the near future so surely he'd be chomping at the bit to get this over the line... That being said, he might be on holiday, this is all done and dusted and they're going to announce asap and we're all losers for spending time on here panicking when we should be at work.. Cheers then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi_sopez Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 #announcearteta #saintarteta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Surely there must be a genuine ITK who has a little more knowledge on the situation? I wouldn't have been overly concerned if it hadn't been for the classic mouthpieces of the club letting us know the deal was imminent. As has been said on here many times over on this thread there wouldn't have been an overwhelming clamour of appreciation for Mark Hughes at the beginning of last season but we are where are and as it stands it seems the players have responded very well to MH so it makes sense to give him the job whilst we consolidate. Any reluctance from Mark Hughes part at this moment should be seen as rather worrying because from Ralph and Mark - there was nothing other than to suggest this was a formality and if this is no longer the case then it means that we're moving the goalposts (excuse the pun). MH won't be offered a better opportunity than this in the near future so surely he'd be chomping at the bit to get this over the line... That being said, he might be on holiday, this is all done and dusted and they're going to announce asap and we're all losers for spending time on here panicking when we should be at work.. Cheers then. you should know the form. We will hold back naming the manager until the window is about to close or get someone who is desperate to get a job in the higher profile. They wll then come in and say we don't need anymore players etc blah blah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 #announcearteta #saintarteta Nope, over me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 ... Ahhh, that makes more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 ... What utter BS. Everyone else is getting their managers appointed before p*ssing off into the sun. Just goes to show what a p*ss-pot outfit we've become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 What utter BS. Everyone else is getting their managers appointed before p*ssing off into the sun. Just goes to show what a p*ss-pot outfit we've become.Apparently West Ham laid on private jets to get the MP paper work sorted. So it's not BS. It's just our directors are a lot more comfortable than the Hammers directors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 So did we miss out on our first choice last year because Les was topping up his tan until mid June? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosin Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 I thought the transfer window was already open? It is, for this season only cause of the world cup or some rubbish, but normally it would have been the 1st of June which is default transfer window start date and 31st of may is the official end of season eg MH contract will be up until 31st May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Ahhh, that makes more sense.Not really, because they told their favoured journalists there would be an announcement early this week, so clearly something has caused the delay which has come up more recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 What utter BS. Everyone else is getting their managers appointed before p*ssing off into the sun. Just goes to show what a p*ss-pot outfit we've become. Or maybe some people just have the patience of a two year old? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Blackmore having his say and probably sharing the view of most folks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Les Reed is in Kiev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Les Reed is in Kiev The start of a new song? It's not as catchy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Les Reed is in Kiev Won't believe it until I see his hotel interior snaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 I expect the club are as usual complacent and think MH is unlikely to get poached by another. This uncertainty cant help with ST sales. The initial good feeling seems to be evaporating away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Les Reed is in Kievwell he is a Liverpool fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 The start of a new song? It's not as catchy. Les Reed went to Kiev, to have a money party. Doing deals with scousers, to sell Alex McCarthy. He sold them all our players, it almost sent us down. He's never going anywhere, the useless f*cking clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Les Reed is in Kiev The start of a new song? It's not as catchy. Won't believe it until I'm signing on the dotted line "Les Reed went to Kiev To see his favourite Scousers, Klopp said whoya got for me Les said I'll sell you Trousers" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Les Reed went to Kiev, to have a money party. Doing deals with scousers, to sell Alex McCarthy. He sold them all our players, it almost sent us down. He's never going anywhere, the useless f*cking clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 This current situation is just missing of the famous “we are comfortable” vids from Les. Legends of their time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Les Reed went to Kiev, to have a money party. Doing deals with scousers, to sell Alex McCarthy. He sold them all our players, it almost sent us down. He's never going anywhere, the useless f*cking clown. Very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Les Reed went to Kiev, to have a money party. Doing deals with scousers, to sell Alex McCarthy. He sold them all our players, it almost sent us down. He's never going anywhere, the useless f*cking clown. "Les Reed went to Kiev To see his favourite Scousers, Klopp said whoya got for me Les said I'll sell you Trousers" :adore: Have u been to Russia? Oh you Moscow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom & Gerry Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Sounds to me like it's agreed but Hughes has gone on a well earned holiday before getting stuck in. Still with Saints it's never done until it's announced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
under the west stand Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 I expect the club are as usual complacent and think MH is unlikely to get Poached By Another. This uncertainty cant help with ST sales. The initial good feeling seems to be evaporating away Derby County? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Derby County?Funny that was a club that sprung to my mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosin Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 I thought the transfer window was already open? Yes was my bad, I forgot the clubs agreed for the transfer window to be closed before the prem season started, so clubs didn't have to put up with players forcing moves and be given to little time to get a replacement in before games start. So window got moved forward ( Clubs voted in favour of this ) cause FIFA say window needs to be open for 12 weeks, I just totally forgot to add the time to when the windows open " Premier League clubs in England voted to end the summer window on the Thursday before the start of the season - on August 9 in 2018, instead of August 31. Because FIFA demands the window must be open for 12 weeks, the window will open around May 17, shortly after the final games of the season on May 13. Clubs will be able to sell players until August 31 but not buy replacements after the deadline of August 9. Although, in England, transfers between clubs in the same league can take place as soon as the last competitive fixtures for the season have been played, many transfers will not be completed until 1 July because many players' contracts expire on 30 June. International transfers into the English leagues (including the Premier League) cannot be made until the window has opened on 17 May. Outside the transfer window, a club may still sign players on an emergency basis, usually if they have no goalkeeper available. Special dispensation from their competition's governing body, for example the Premier League, is required. The transfer window restriction does not apply to clubs below the National League division.[17][28] If the last day of a transfer window is on a weekend, the deadline can be extended to the following Monday at the request of those involved for business reasons.[29] The first shift of the deadline since its inception took place in summer 2008, when the deadline was extended by 24 hours to fall on Monday 1 September at midnight.[30][31] The transfer deadline in England was similarly extended to 5 pm 1 September 2009, due to the August Bank Holiday "" So my bad on that. But I am still not worried, I don't think things can get much worse than the season we just had, I cant see the new owner allowing it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 £50m is **** all in the current climate. If we want to compete then that's the going rate. No disrespect to any other club, but the likes of Cardiff, Brighton and Huddersfield will probably spend close to that this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Les Reed went to Kiev, to have a money party. Doing deals with scousers, to sell Alex McCarthy. He sold them all our players, it almost sent us down. He's never going anywhere, the useless f*cking clown.9/10. Good effort. [emoji294] Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Les Reed is in Kiev Won't believe it until I see his hotel interior snaps Only a stalker would be able to obtain them..... Oh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 If indeed there is any truth in the rumour that Hughes has been told he has to sell to raise funds before he can buy then what a perfect cop out for Reed & Kreuger. They can claim that they were not responsible for selling their dud buys (Boufal, Carillo) or indeed our best players (Bertrand, Tadic, Cedric) who are the only ones likely to be of any interest elsewhere. Hopefully Hughes is not that daft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 This all sounds plausible when you consider that Hughes is under contract until the end of May (as pointed out by a poster above). He's still getting paid, so the deadline is really the end of May Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 If indeed there is any truth in the rumour that Hughes has been told he has to sell to raise funds before he can buy then what a perfect cop out for Reed & Kreuger. They can claim that they were not responsible for selling their dud buys (Boufal, Carillo) or indeed our best players (Bertrand, Tadic, Cedric) who are the only ones likely to be of any interest elsewhere. Hopefully Hughes is not that daft. Which pub has this rumour manifested from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Whats the problem with selling to buy? Seriously I'm the only one who would quite happily see the back of several of the current 25 man squad. I'd happily have a bit more quality and a bit less quantity in the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Whats the problem with selling to buy? Seriously I'm the only one who would quite happily see the back of several of the current 25 man squad. I'd happily have a bit more quality and a bit less quantity in the squad. There is no problem with getting rid of players but if we HAVE to sell to buy it just means another net loss in players. It also means we have been blatantly lied to by Kruger who has said more than once that all the money we get from VVD will get invested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 There is no problem with getting rid of players but if we HAVE to sell to buy it just means another net loss in players. It also means we have been blatantly lied to by Kruger who has said more than once that all the money we get from VVD will get invested. Exactly. What we're saying at the moment, is that someone is pocketing some of the VVD money, we're not putting anything in of this years money, and we've got to sell to bring in money to spend. If it was £75m + anything we bring in then fair enough, ca net £20m spend of this years money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EkonOkereke Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Good old Les. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayrivers Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 There is no problem with getting rid of players but if we HAVE to sell to buy it just means another net loss in players. It also means we have been blatantly lied to by Kruger who has said more than once that all the money we get from VVD will get invested. Other than a random tweet and some people claiming their mate at the stadium says so, there is no proof this is the case. We won't know the truth of it until after the transfer window closes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 If I had £50m plus leftover from a deal, I'd be saying we had to sell before we can buy, too, to try to limit fees for potential deals being inflated as they probably were in January in the immediate aftermath of VVD's departure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Did someone say Reed wanted another candidate to assess Hughes? He's baaaaaccckkkkk! Mauricio Pellegrino linked with management return http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/16242664.Pellegrino_linked_with_management_return/?ref=mr&lp=19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 24 May, 2018 Share Posted 24 May, 2018 Les Reed is in Kiev A perfect opportunity for the Russians to take revenge for Salisbury... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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