Matthew Le God Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 (edited) https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0678t7z Edited 15 May, 2018 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 Whatever he says it will be an absolute load of b*llocks. Just resign mate and save us all the hassle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 @AdamBlackmore #saintsfc started talks with Mark Hughes yesterday morning, chairman Ralph Krueger has told BBC Radio Solent: "Mark Hughes came in and fit like a glove, together with his coaching team. Mark fits perfectly and we're in conversation with him right now" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGalpin Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 https://twitter.com/adamleitchsport/status/996424836191748096 @adamleitchsport: Had an hour one-on-one interview with Ralph Krueger today. Lots of stuff, much expected but a couple of surprises too. Will be out over next two days. For those already asking he says Les Reed and the board to stay in place #SaintsFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 Not a peep from les but he stays ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 Reed staying is a ****ing nightmare **** off Leslie you're finished you plank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 He says they had 12 hours after the Newcastle game to go over available managers and Mark very quickly topped the list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 I don't mind Krueger to be honest. I know his statements are mostly waffle, but apart cringing at his various soundbites, it's harmless enough. I'm not quite sure what he brings to the table, but when I look at the things that have gone wrong of late they appear to be more Reed's responsibility. I could be totally wrong of course, but it's my perception. Obviously it's good we stayed up, but Ralph must be smarting that we didn't manage a single-digit finish this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 "A semi championship-won feeling" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 Christ they didnt realise until January.....what were they in hibernation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 That's disappointing news about Reed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 At least the penny appears to have dropped about the ****e we’ve watched for two years prior to Hughes coming in and re-igniting “The Southampton Way” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 Hope people have learned about keeping unhappy players. All we have when Saints are mentioned this season was 'they sold too many players', yet last summer was the first time we didn't sell. The result was an unhappy squad and no time to reinvest when the sale did happen in January. Selling and replacing got us our success. One season of struggle and the pundits just bleat on with the same generic crap, no actual insight or awareness of what's been going on. Bertrand will probably go and people will moan again. Personally i'd rather just sell anyone who doesn't want to be here, get the best price and move on. If you can end up rubbish with Van Dijk in the team, there's zero point keeping anyone who'll force a move like that. Plenty of decent young talent out there. Won't get it right every time but our record has been decent. Even Tadic, Romeu, Hojbjerg were all replacements for players sold and they'd be in most people's teams despite a difficult season. This is nearly as bad as the crap ralph just spouted. To reduce all our failures over the past two seasons to keeping an unhappy VVD -as Ralph comes dangerously close to doing- is utterly blinkered, never mind that strategy worked in the case of Morgan, Wanyama and Mane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 Jesus, Ralph just said "stable and strong"... could do without those parallels! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 21 mins of not much. Hopefully the coming days reveal a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 Ralph saying big mistakes were made Judge them on reacting to the mistakes next season Adam having a pop saying not a peep from les when he is the head of football at the club Saying the club bought into their own hype and pellegrino was clearly the wrong man Ralph brushes off the jibe about appointing pellegrino when he was just the same if not worse than the fella they just sacked In talks with Mark Hughes now and he is at the top of the list The speed is essential to get this done. We were on the side of this new window as it hurts clubs like us We must tap into the window early and have already started that process Hughes will be part of the transfer committee but he brings a far deeper knowledge base due to his experience of the league and he will be integral part of it with Les Reed with the board for the financial part of the process Was a scary first year for Gao family, they watched the games when in China and always in contact. We aim to get involved in the Asian market, along with under armour but that is a slower process. The family are important with that Adam pointing out unless you win football matches, all this branding talk is pointless... Ralph saying this is a tough league, and we are now more humbled to be in it, we have to recognise the importance of fans Will do fans forum and have to improve communication with fans We must reiterate that it starts at St Mary’s and we got distracted a year ago trying to branch out. We have to make it better at home and reconnect with the fans at home. That must be the priority Adam says Hughes has brought back a bit of aggression that Poch and Ronald brought Ralph admits that we lost our way and it started to be fun again under Hughes, even during the arsenal and Chelsea games The amount of draws we got was just unacceptable and we must play to win unlike what we have done recently Management team is in place, lots of conversations started after the Swansea game. We will try and create something and we have learned something after this season. As chairman I see no reason for change and we have to get the manager in and in quickly. Les and Ross are good people and we have to accept this season was not good enough and I will not be self congratulating about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 Reed has done far more good than harm for our club but the last year has been a disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 Anything new here? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/05/15/southampton-conversations-mark-hughes-new-contract/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesfp1 Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 To sum up: We we're rubbish. Pellegrino was worse. Hughes will stay. We'll stick to doing things on the cheap. We'll keep all those behind the scenes who contributed to such a **** season and hope they have learned from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 "I take responsibility for how, as a board, we thought Southampton really needed to consolidate to go to the next level. It wasn’t. An overambitious club stumbled on its own ambitious and needed a regroup and a reboot.” That's cleared that up then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 "I take responsibility for how, as a board, we thought Southampton really needed to consolidate to go to the next level. It wasn’t. An overambitious club stumbled on its own ambitious and needed a regroup and a reboot.” That's cleared that up then. In other words, we kept VVD against his will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 I thought that was actually a very good interview from RK. He has learnt a lot from when he first joined and he is a man that loves sport and competition. The total absence of Les Reed is telling, as were the comments from RK saying he is not happy with how this season went. I actually find myself trusting him with the club. I also think that Les will find his wings clipped within the club at least, if not publicly. I certainly hope I never see another Les Reed interview whilst he is still at the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 Back to to buying and selling, which is fine if the buying also goes back to Mane, Wanyama, VVD, Tadic quality not Carillo, Clasie, Hoedt, Boufal. Overall not his worst interview though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 "I take responsibility for how, as a board, we thought Southampton really needed to consolidate to go to the next level. It wasn’t. An overambitious club stumbled on its own ambitious and needed a regroup and a reboot.” That's cleared that up then. In other words we will use the well publicised and controlled vvd situations to continue selling any and all top players and the niave / dumb fans will lap it up as "we don't want another vvd situation " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 I may be in a minority but at least he admits mistakes were made and they intend to sort out their business quickly. Talk is cheap and their actions will determine if that is true as I think this could be an even busier transfer window than when Koeman took charge. We will need to get rid early although with all transfers the buyer has to play ball for this to happen as it sounded like we will only buy from what we sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 Ralph saying big mistakes were made Judge them on reacting to the mistakes next season Adam having a pop saying not a peep from les when he is the head of football at the club Saying the club bought into their own hype and pellegrino was clearly the wrong man Ralph brushes off the jibe about appointing pellegrino when he was just the same if not worse than the fella they just sacked In talks with Mark Hughes now and he is at the top of the list The speed is essential to get this done. We were on the side of this new window as it hurts clubs like us We must tap into the window early and have already started that process Hughes will be part of the transfer committee but he brings a far deeper knowledge base due to his experience of the league and he will be integral part of it with Les Reed with the board for the financial part of the process Was a scary first year for Gao family, they watched the games when in China and always in contact. We aim to get involved in the Asian market, along with under armour but that is a slower process. The family are important with that Adam pointing out unless you win football matches, all this branding talk is pointless... Ralph saying this is a tough league, and we are now more humbled to be in it, we have to recognise the importance of fans Will do fans forum and have to improve communication with fans We must reiterate that it starts at St Mary’s and we got distracted a year ago trying to branch out. We have to make it better at home and reconnect with the fans at home. That must be the priority Adam says Hughes has brought back a bit of aggression that Poch and Ronald brought Ralph admits that we lost our way and it started to be fun again under Hughes, even during the arsenal and Chelsea games The amount of draws we got was just unacceptable and we must play to win unlike what we have done recently Management team is in place, lots of conversations started after the Swansea game. We will try and create something and we have learned something after this season. As chairman I see no reason for change and we have to get the manager in and in quickly. Les and Ross are good people and we have to accept this season was not good enough and I will not be self congratulating about it Cheers for the summary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 Just me that can’t help but feel impressed and optimistic when RK talks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 (edited) I may be in a minority but at least he admits mistakes were made and they intend to sort out their business quickly. Talk is cheap and their actions will determine if that is true as I think this could be an even busier transfer window than when Koeman took charge. We will need to get rid early although with all transfers the buyer has to play ball for this to happen as it sounded like we will only buy from what we sell. He admits mistakes were made in a generic, boilerplate way - when forced to be specific, he gives the VVD example in the same way everything was about VVD when the s**t was hitting in the fan in January and it was blindingly obvious Pellegrino was the problem. Let's hope the club are a little more forensic and honest in their postmortem. Pinning things on VVD is the easiest trick in the book. Blaming the odd rotten apple shuts down the search for structural causes, especially when that rotten apple is now out of the club. To conflate VVD with overambition is a particularly tough pill to swallow when others might claim that it's our very lack of ambition -not overambition- that accounts for key holes in the squad (e.g. our CBs) and our failure to address them. Edited 15 May, 2018 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 TBF I don`t think that Adam Blackmore gave him an easy ride... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 Just me that can’t help but feel impressed and optimistic when RK talks? May not be just you but it’s single digits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 TBF I don`t think that Adam Blackmore gave him an easy ride... You can tell Blackmore sympathises with Krueger but is f**ked off with Les -and of course would rather be interviewing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 Christ they didnt realise until January.....what were they in hibernation I almost punched my iPad when he said that. What planet were they on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 Ralph saying big mistakes were made Judge them on reacting to the mistakes next season Adam having a pop saying not a peep from les when he is the head of football at the club Saying the club bought into their own hype and pellegrino was clearly the wrong man Ralph brushes off the jibe about appointing pellegrino when he was just the same if not worse than the fella they just sacked In talks with Mark Hughes now and he is at the top of the list The speed is essential to get this done. We were on the side of this new window as it hurts clubs like us We must tap into the window early and have already started that process Hughes will be part of the transfer committee but he brings a far deeper knowledge base due to his experience of the league and he will be integral part of it with Les Reed with the board for the financial part of the process Was a scary first year for Gao family, they watched the games when in China and always in contact. We aim to get involved in the Asian market, along with under armour but that is a slower process. The family are important with that Adam pointing out unless you win football matches, all this branding talk is pointless... Ralph saying this is a tough league, and we are now more humbled to be in it, we have to recognise the importance of fans Will do fans forum and have to improve communication with fans We must reiterate that it starts at St Mary’s and we got distracted a year ago trying to branch out. We have to make it better at home and reconnect with the fans at home. That must be the priority Adam says Hughes has brought back a bit of aggression that Poch and Ronald brought Ralph admits that we lost our way and it started to be fun again under Hughes, even during the arsenal and Chelsea games The amount of draws we got was just unacceptable and we must play to win unlike what we have done recently Management team is in place, lots of conversations started after the Swansea game. We will try and create something and we have learned something after this season. As chairman I see no reason for change and we have to get the manager in and in quickly. Les and Ross are good people and we have to accept this season was not good enough and I will not be self congratulating about it Top work, thanks Batman. On the face of it, at least they acknowledge mistakes were made. Good to see they are looking to improve communication/connection with fans and also the need to act quickly, but don't enjoy this continued blaming of the VVD situation for our poor season. Obviously though it could just be a lot of hot air, let's wait and see what happens. Though Ralph asking us to judge them on reacting to their mistakes next season is asking for a lot of (un-earnt) trust, especially when they'll be asking me to part with the best of £700 in a few weeks time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 Anything new here? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/05/15/southampton-conversations-mark-hughes-new-contract/ That's a good interview to be fair, can't argue with much of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 15 May, 2018 Author Share Posted 15 May, 2018 (edited) Edited 15 May, 2018 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 TBF I don`t think that Adam Blackmore gave him an easy ride... I certainly liked his “club has been too clever for its own good” question concerning the appointment of Pellegrino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 Les is definitely going to take a back seat with Hughes as manager. I don’t think he’ll have much to do with the first team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 That's a good interview to be fair, can't argue with much of that. Think it’s an honest interview and sounds like maybe lessons have been learnt however let’s wait and see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 (edited) That was a good interview and I agree with his assessment in most areas. The most alarming admission was that they didn't feel the threat of relegation until "deep into January", and his comparison between Pellegrino and Poch/Koeman was a bit disingenuous. Back to to buying and selling, which is fine if the buying also goes back to Mane, Wanyama, VVD, Tadic quality not Carillo, Clasie, Hoedt, Boufal. Overall not his worst interview though. Jury's still out on Hoedt I think. He's given me heart attacks too many times this season but if the team is more confident next year then I can see him improving. Edited 15 May, 2018 by DuncanRG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 It wasn't his usual waffle and my ears did ***** up when he said that they failed the recognise the dangers of all the early season draws and how not playing to win, whilst sucking up the defeats that come with chasing wins, was a mistake, something I know I and others were saying at the time. To my mind it was Ralph's way of saying MP wasn't good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 Anything new here? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/05/15/southampton-conversations-mark-hughes-new-contract/ After listening to the Blackmore interview and then reading this, I noticed a few interesting bits in the Telegraph article... Hughes announcement is likely by end of the week. City still interested in Bertrand, Barcelona interested in Cedric. They “still have two years remaining on their contracts and, should big offers come in, it is clear that Southampton will open their ears and not again want team spirit to be threatened.” Les remaining does not sound certain in the Telegraph piece. It’s “likely to depend on talks with the club’s new majority owners, the Chinese Gao family, about his ongoing control over the football operations.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 That was a good interview and I agree with his assessment in most areas. The most alarming admission was that they didn't feel the threat of relegation until "deep into January", and his comparison between Pellegrino and Poch/Koeman was a bit disingenuous. Jury's still out on Hoedt I think. He's given me heart attacks too many times this season but if the team is more confident next year then I can see him improving. He needs an experienced CB alongside him. I'd have him as first choice but not with Stephens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 Sound's like everyone is swallowing the blag again , Ralph was brought in for just that reason ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint michael Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 He talked a lot about learning but not much about change. Let’s wait and see what does change...I believe not much will change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 (edited) He needs an experienced CB alongside him. I'd have him as first choice but not with Stephens. Yep, agreed. City still interested in Bertrand, Barcelona interested in Cedric. They “still have two years remaining on their contracts and, should big offers come in, it is clear that Southampton will open their ears and not again want team spirit to be threatened.” To be fair it doesn't say that City and Barcelona are still interested, only that they have been. Edited 15 May, 2018 by DuncanRG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 Admits that Dalek right in his prediction and should have taken more notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 Admits that Dalek right in his prediction and should have taken more notice. Predicting 17th every season means you might eventually get it right, nothing to be pround about. What are you predicting for next season? 17th again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 Admits that Dalek right in his prediction and should have taken more notice. Yes.....he used those exact words.....also said the new manager would be Hughes or Hoddle... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 15 May, 2018 Share Posted 15 May, 2018 Predicting 17th every season means you might eventually get it right, nothing to be pround about. What are you predicting for next season? 17th again? Even a broken watch is right twice a day.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 15 May, 2018 Author Share Posted 15 May, 2018 Admits that Dalek right in his prediction and should have taken more notice. A broken clock is right twice per day... A broken Dalek on an internet football forum for 12 years is indistinguishable from a broken record! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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