Lighthouse Posted 13 June, 2018 Author Share Posted 13 June, 2018 Nope. The plan is to have top 2 qualify from each group, have a round of 32, then 16, quarters, semis, final. What England struggle to get out of a group with New Zealand and Eritrea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 13 June, 2018 Share Posted 13 June, 2018 What England struggle to get out of a group with New Zealand and Eritrea. I’m holding on to the very slim hope that England end up playing in Edmonton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 13 June, 2018 Share Posted 13 June, 2018 Ah OK. Thanks! Hope we get at least 10 though. Me too. My understanding is that FIFA will pick from the three Canadian bidding cities, so there’s no guarantee that all of Toronto, Montreal and Edmonton will get games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 13 June, 2018 Share Posted 13 June, 2018 16 groups of 3 teams? Jesus wept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 13 June, 2018 Share Posted 13 June, 2018 There will be a Group P for eff's sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 13 June, 2018 Share Posted 13 June, 2018 It'll be like the Europa League. Ruined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 13 June, 2018 Share Posted 13 June, 2018 Is it true.... that the FA has primacy over FIFA in the UK, given that the rules of football are the FA's. And that there is the reason why the WC is unlikely to come here. I think also that the money would go to the FA rather than FIFA. Or is that ballocks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 13 June, 2018 Share Posted 13 June, 2018 If we did bid to be a World Cup host city, I would say our main competitors would be Brighton. But their lack of airport would probably hurt them. I think the fact that we're in the Premier League now and Les Reed has connections with the FA might see us included. They've got one of Europe's busiest international airports on their doorstep, Gatwick is little over 20 miles straight up the M23, I'd say that's a massive advantage they'd have. But if the opportunity came about to bid I think the powers at SFC would see it as a catalyst to upgrade the stadium tied in with the future development of the surrounding area and waterfront. You wouldn't be able to move with the amount of brown envelopes knocking around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 13 June, 2018 Share Posted 13 June, 2018 16 groups of 3 teams? Jesus wept. It's a joke. One team will have to watch while the other 2 teams play the last game to decide which 2 teams go through. Jesus will indeed have a good weep if Algeria has to watch again Germany and Austria play the final game of their group, with both going through after a convenient 2-2 draw (with 4 own goals). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 13 June, 2018 Share Posted 13 June, 2018 12 groups of 4 teams. Top 2 from each go through, along with the 8 best 3rd place finishers. Not ideal, but better than 16 groups of 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 13 June, 2018 Share Posted 13 June, 2018 12 groups of 4 teams. Top 2 from each go through, along with the 8 best 3rd place finishers. Not ideal, but better than 16 groups of 3. No one in 3rd place in a group of four should go through. All farcical. Even Holland will qualify Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 13 June, 2018 Share Posted 13 June, 2018 16 groups of 3 teams? Jesus wept. On the plus side post-Brexit the Uk will be like a Mad Max set. We will all be too hungry to care about football in 2026. Or dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picard Posted 14 June, 2018 Share Posted 14 June, 2018 So the next world cup goes to Mexico, Canada and USA. Bit of a f**k you to the fans, trying to get between Vancouver, NYC and Mexico City to watch games. In Russia free transport is available to travel between certain venues. I wonder if that will happen in America. I thought there was some rule about having only one venue in each city? Good shout on Murrayfield though, if the egg chasers let them borrow it. Two venues in Moscow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandy_Top_89 Posted 14 June, 2018 Share Posted 14 June, 2018 Just realized that the they actually made that tapestry in the BBC World Cup Promo (as opposed to pure CGI ******y). That is absolutely outrageous and brilliant! Say what you like about the BBC, but they absolutely nail Sports promos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 14 June, 2018 Share Posted 14 June, 2018 No one in 3rd place in a group of four should go through. All farcical. Even Holland will qualify That makes no sense. 32 teams will qualify for the knockout stage, whether it's 16 groups of 3, or 12 groups of 4. The only thing farcical is having 48 teams in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 14 June, 2018 Share Posted 14 June, 2018 That makes no sense. 32 teams will qualify for the knockout stage, whether it's 16 groups of 3, or 12 groups of 4. The only thing farcical is having 48 teams in the first place. I am saying 48 teams eliminating 16 is farcical whichever way you cut it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 14 June, 2018 Share Posted 14 June, 2018 So the next world cup goes to Mexico, Canada and USA. Bit of a f**k you to the fans, trying to get between Vancouver, NYC and Mexico City to watch games. I hope they hurry up and invent airplanes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandy_Top_89 Posted 14 June, 2018 Share Posted 14 June, 2018 I am saying 48 teams eliminating 16 is farcical whichever way you cut it. The thing I hate most about it is that some teams will only get 2 games. Hardly a complete World Cup. Honestly if they want to expand it so badly my OCD would much prefer it if they went the whole way and just expanded it to 64. It would be logistical hell and the quality would be further diluted, but id prefer it to Groups of 3. Same with the Euros, would rather 32 than 24. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 14 June, 2018 Author Share Posted 14 June, 2018 I hope they hurry up and invent airplanes. Yeah, so if an average plane holds 200 people and there are 20,000 fans trying to get from one game to another, we will only need 100 flights in 3 days between Winnipeg and Houston to sort it out. I'm sure that will be cheap and easy to organise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 14 June, 2018 Share Posted 14 June, 2018 Yeah, so if an average plane holds 200 people and there are 20,000 fans trying to get from one game to another, we will only need 100 flights in 3 days between Winnipeg and Houston to sort it out. I'm sure that will be cheap and easy to organise. It would be no different to a USA only world cup or this Russian one for that matter. This throwing the arms up in the air because the corporates don't care about the humble fan is a bit naive, that ship sailed years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 14 June, 2018 Share Posted 14 June, 2018 I am saying 48 teams eliminating 16 is farcical whichever way you cut it. Indeed. That’s what the qualifying rounds are for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitz Posted 14 June, 2018 Share Posted 14 June, 2018 Just realized that the they actually made that tapestry in the BBC World Cup Promo (as opposed to pure CGI ******y). That is absolutely outrageous and brilliant! Say what you like about the BBC, but they absolutely nail Sports promos. This is a good watch too; https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44475953 Great stuff.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 14 June, 2018 Share Posted 14 June, 2018 (edited) Indeed. That’s what the qualifying rounds are for. 48 teams ? Some of the games will be awful, mind you some of them don't look any too bright with the current 32. I mean Panama-Tunisia, that's going to be a real treat right. Midanbury-Clump at BP rec would probably be a better game. Edited 14 June, 2018 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 14 June, 2018 Share Posted 14 June, 2018 No one in 3rd place in a group of four should go through. All farcical. Even Holland will qualify Disagree. Thought at the euros at least it meant there were virtually no dead rubbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 14 June, 2018 Share Posted 14 June, 2018 48 teams ? Some of the games will be awful, mind you some of them don't look any too bright with the current 32. I mean Panama-Tunisia, that's going to be a real treat right. Midanbury-Clump at BP rec would probably be a better game. Too true. If Panama -Tunisia were being played as a knock-out before the final tournament who would bother to watch it? Maybe that's the point. Los Canaleros v. The Eagles of Carthage, not to be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGalpin Posted 14 June, 2018 Share Posted 14 June, 2018 Rafael Van Der Vaart has blamed Holland not being at the World Cup on their best players 'playing for Stoke City or Southampton, not Real Madrid or Barcelona'... http://www.sportbuzzer.de/artikel/van-der-vaart-uber-heimatland-holland-sie-kriegen-es-uberhaupt-nicht-hin/ Who are the hopefuls? There are huge talents. Justin Kluivert, Frenkie de Jong, Donny van de Beek. But they need time. They are good, but my generation was already in the early 20s at the big clubs and has decided their Champions League games. We miss that now. Our best players play for Southampton or Stoke City or what do I know. No Real Madrid, no FC Barcelona. This is a pity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 14 June, 2018 Share Posted 14 June, 2018 Hollands problems were the managers they had. Miss managed badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 14 June, 2018 Share Posted 14 June, 2018 Rafael Van Der Vaart has blamed Holland not being at the World Cup on their best players 'playing for Stoke City or Southampton, not Real Madrid or Barcelona'... http://www.sportbuzzer.de/artikel/van-der-vaart-uber-heimatland-holland-sie-kriegen-es-uberhaupt-nicht-hin/ So Clasie and Hoedt? Best players? Doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 14 June, 2018 Share Posted 14 June, 2018 Hollands problems were the managers they had. Miss managed badly. Partly. They'd also been dependant on Robben and to some extent Van Persie for years. When their performances fell off or were just not present because of endless injuries, Holland were just lost. Their style of football also became outdated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edprice1984 Posted 14 June, 2018 Share Posted 14 June, 2018 1-0 Russia after 13 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 14 June, 2018 Share Posted 14 June, 2018 2-0 now before half time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 14 June, 2018 Share Posted 14 June, 2018 2-0 now before half time. Could be 5 or 6. Teams like Saudi Arabia, well you have to wonder what they're really doing in the W.C final stages don't you. Must bring in TV money or something I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 14 June, 2018 Share Posted 14 June, 2018 16 people in our work sweepstake. One seeded team each, one non-seeded team. My seeded team... Russia. Still, goal of the tournament is one of the pots and goes to the team it's scored for. Slight outside chance with that second goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 14 June, 2018 Share Posted 14 June, 2018 16 people in our work sweepstake. One seeded team each, one non-seeded team. My seeded team... Russia. Still, goal of the tournament is one of the pots and goes to the team it's scored for. Slight outside chance with that second goal Forth goal pretty tasty too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 14 June, 2018 Share Posted 14 June, 2018 ...and the fifth too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 14 June, 2018 Share Posted 14 June, 2018 Yep, that makes a few contenders for goal of the tournament! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 14 June, 2018 Share Posted 14 June, 2018 Could be 5 or 6. Teams like Saudi Arabia, well you have to wonder what they're really doing in the W.C final stages don't you. Must bring in TV money or something I suppose. More teams from Saudi Arabia’s confederation will be at WC 2026. I can’t wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 14 June, 2018 Share Posted 14 June, 2018 More teams from Saudi Arabia’s confederation will be at WC 2026. I can’t wait. FIFA probably need to change the qualifying zones so that you don't have Saudia Arabia and their ilk and not Italy, Cameroon or Chile. Some sort of inter-regional play-offs perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 14 June, 2018 Share Posted 14 June, 2018 If ever evidence were needed that expanding the number of teams at a WC is a bad idea this game was it. More teams like Saudi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint si Posted 14 June, 2018 Share Posted 14 June, 2018 FIFA probably need to change the qualifying zones so that you don't have Saudia Arabia and their ilk and not Italy, Cameroon or Chile. Some sort of inter-regional play-offs perhaps. They would love to, but it wouldn't support their objectives to develop football in to new markets* *only the rich ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 14 June, 2018 Share Posted 14 June, 2018 If ever evidence were needed that expanding the number of teams at a WC is a bad idea this game was it. More teams like Saudi? That's just brought back memories of the 1974 WC Finals with the likes of Haiti and Zaire both losing all games including massive defeats of 7 and 9 goals. And that free kick Zaire v Brazil, although it was said the Africans and their families were on death threats from their president if they got heavily beaten again. Luckily, and surprisingly, the Brazilians only stuck a couple past them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 14 June, 2018 Share Posted 14 June, 2018 I expect Les was there scouting Saudi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 14 June, 2018 Share Posted 14 June, 2018 2 things struck me. Expanding the number of entrants from Asia for future world cup's looks crazy when you consider how awful one of best team's did against an average Russian side The Russian 4th goal. Was Dyzuba offside? All the replays i've seen annoyingly just focus on the finish. Given the change in the rule(in terms of how linesmen officiate marginal offsides) i was interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 14 June, 2018 Share Posted 14 June, 2018 Just shows how much a farce the World Cup will be with more “lesser” nations, Russia are terrible and also their best player went off injured. As most of the Russian media have said “worst Russian side in years” and they thrashed Saudi Arabia, god knows what U R Gay will do to them. #mess-ism Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 14 June, 2018 Share Posted 14 June, 2018 2 things struck me. Expanding the number of entrants from Asia for future world cup's looks crazy when you consider how awful one of best team's did against an average Russian side The Russian 4th goal. Was Dyzuba offside? All the replays i've seen annoyingly just focus on the finish. Given the change in the rule(in terms of how linesmen officiate marginal offsides) i was interested. Just for you I’ve recovered the recording and looked again. In the camera view across the pitch there is another Saudi player right behind Dyzuba who is almost totally hidden by him. I would describe it as ‘level’ even though there’s not really such a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashnats Posted 14 June, 2018 Share Posted 14 June, 2018 So Clasie and Hoedt? Best players? Doubt it. Assume he means teams ‘like’ saints and stoke, so includes Van Dijk, wijnaldum, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 14 June, 2018 Share Posted 14 June, 2018 Can’t wait to see Qatar in the opening game next World Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 14 June, 2018 Share Posted 14 June, 2018 Can’t wait to see Qatar in the opening game next World Cup. Probably find a bunch of Europeans / Africans with surprising lineage in the run up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 14 June, 2018 Share Posted 14 June, 2018 Probably find a bunch of Europeans / Africans with surprising lineage in the run up. What's Ekon upto? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydney_saint Posted 15 June, 2018 Share Posted 15 June, 2018 One of the difficulties in determining which are the best sides that should go to the world cup, particularly relevant for Asia, is that you can be successful on the back of having strong home form, but that doesn't mean you are the best equipped side to travel the world cup. The Saudi side, who everyone knew were a bit ****, had a strong home record and to be honest it is a genuinely difficult place to travel to. Often involving particularly long flights for the away side and most of the Saudi team plays within their own country, so they are incredibly used to their own conditions and it is an intimidating place for an away side. Their own away form was more of a true reflection on them, they lost away to the bloody UAE in the group stage so it was inevitable they would travel poorly. They just have no experience of playing in front of intimidating away crowds and all the players have one way of playing, so can not adapt to different styles as shown last night. Asia would be far stronger if it was set up similar to Africa where only the top team in a group of 4 qualifies, which would force a stronger away record. Though they bottled it for this tournament with a poor campaign, a side like Uzbekistan (yes really!) would have been far more equipped to go to a World Cup. Hopefully Korea and Japan showcase that Asia is worthy of a few places at the World Cup, because there is certainly decent talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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