Lord Duckhunter Posted 1 July, 2018 Posted 1 July, 2018 Yeah, should be a red. Not that it would make much difference with a few minutes left. If you attempt to play the mall legally and a penalty is awarded , you haven't prevented a goal scoring opportunity as they still have one from the spot. Deliberate handball is not attempting to play the ball legally, so is still a red. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
benjii Posted 1 July, 2018 Posted 1 July, 2018 Actually it was a certain goal denied, so the penalty should be without a goalkeeper. I think they do something similar in ice hockey (maybe our Canadian friends can confirm). I'd love to see penalty without a keeper. Someone would miss one one day. Shane Long, perhaps
Dark Munster Posted 1 July, 2018 Posted 1 July, 2018 Bad penalties all over the shop It's like watching England at it. Anyway, justice in the end.
Cabbage_Face Posted 1 July, 2018 Posted 1 July, 2018 Game rubbish, penalties rubbish. That was horrible. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
doddisalegend Posted 1 July, 2018 Posted 1 July, 2018 Not often you save three pens in a game and still lose... Shame Lolvern is still in the tournament ..
whelk Posted 1 July, 2018 Posted 1 July, 2018 It's like watching England at it. Anyway, justice in the end. Justice? Croatia were sh1t
nta786 Posted 1 July, 2018 Posted 1 July, 2018 A last ditch tackle has a chance of not being a foul (if made as a genuine attempt). A deliberate handball is always a foul. Oh I see- thanks Although there was certainly a chance that a last ditch tackle such as the one made by that Dane could have been a dirty two footed, threatening one- would that also not be a red?
Shroppie Posted 1 July, 2018 Posted 1 July, 2018 Can't help feeling sorry for Schmeichel. Saves three pens and loses. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk
Jimmy_D Posted 1 July, 2018 Posted 1 July, 2018 Oh I see- thanks Although there was certainly a chance that a last ditch tackle such as the one made by that Dane could have been a dirty two footed, threatening one- would that also not be a red? Yeah, that's the reason there's the caveat that the ref has to judge it to be a genuine attempt to get the ball for it to only be a yellow.
Dark Munster Posted 1 July, 2018 Posted 1 July, 2018 Justice? Croatia were sh1t Be as that may, they were denied an empty net certain goal.
stknowle Posted 1 July, 2018 Posted 1 July, 2018 I would like to see more athletic refs. Oooh, wouldn't we all darling.
Ohio Saint Posted 1 July, 2018 Posted 1 July, 2018 Wow, this half of the bracket is totally going with the script. I feel kinda dirty that england are in it. ( still happy about it though)
Dark Munster Posted 1 July, 2018 Posted 1 July, 2018 Yeah, that's the reason there's the caveat that the ref has to judge it to be a genuine attempt to get the ball for it to only be a yellow. I think it was a grey area here, the defender went through the middle of the attackers two legs so it was always going to be a certain foul, a desperate lunge to stop a certain goal. But it was not that critical anyway since it was in the last couple of minutes.
whelk Posted 1 July, 2018 Posted 1 July, 2018 Be as that may, they were denied an empty net certain goal.
DT Posted 1 July, 2018 Posted 1 July, 2018 We aren’t gong to beat Colombia. It’s pretty predictable. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Dark Munster Posted 1 July, 2018 Posted 1 July, 2018 Ok, I stand corrected. 99.9999999% certain goal.
Dark Munster Posted 1 July, 2018 Posted 1 July, 2018 We aren’t gong to beat Colombia. It’s pretty predictable. No, a glorious quarter final defeat on penalties. Another one to tell our grandchildren about.
S-Clarke Posted 1 July, 2018 Posted 1 July, 2018 Jeeez, Croatia were so lucky there. Denmark played them brilliantly in the 2nd half and played the better football for me, they just lack a decent focal point really. Don't think they deserved to go out, but never mind. This World Cup is so weird though, in a positive way. Quarter finals so far... Uruguay v France Russia v Croatia **** knows how tommorow will go, could well be a Mexico and Japan win going by this World cup so far!
Ohio Saint Posted 1 July, 2018 Posted 1 July, 2018 A great world cup being spoiled by an entire half of the bracket. This is crazy.
Hamilton Saint Posted 1 July, 2018 Posted 1 July, 2018 Wonder if VAR will ever be used to check if the keeper is on their line when the pen is taken. One of the least-enforced rules in football. Indeed!
Ohio Saint Posted 1 July, 2018 Posted 1 July, 2018 VAR should be used to check out the WAGS and the South American fans. Just saying what everyone else is thinking!
scotty Posted 1 July, 2018 Posted 1 July, 2018 VAR should be used to check out the WAGS and the South American fans. Just saying what everyone else is thinking! The camera boys are doing their bit, tbh. I haven't seen so many fit birds zoomed in on since I slipped round the back of the nurses home with my videocam.
OttawaSaint Posted 2 July, 2018 Posted 2 July, 2018 Actually it was a certain goal denied, so the penalty should be without a goalkeeper. I think they do something similar in ice hockey (maybe our Canadian friends can confirm). No, if the goalie takes a penalty a skater serves his penalty in the penalty box. Closest is it the goalie has been removed for a skater and an opponent is impeded when shooting into the empty net a goal is given.
Nordic Saint Posted 2 July, 2018 Posted 2 July, 2018 Can't help feeling sorry for Schmeichel. Saves three pens and loses. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk A world class goalkeeper playing in a Championship class team. But, he'll always remember winning the Premier League with Leicester. Many star players in humdrum teams never experience anything like that in their whole careers.
Saint Albert Posted 2 July, 2018 Posted 2 July, 2018 Actually it was a certain goal denied, so the penalty should be without a goalkeeper. I think they do something similar in ice hockey (maybe our Canadian friends can confirm). They have penalty shots in hockey when a foul causes the team to lose a goal-scoring opportunity on a breakaway but the goalie stays in the net to face the shooter.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 2 July, 2018 Posted 2 July, 2018 (edited) Interesting factsI read this morning. Not one player left in the tournament has played in a World Cup final before. And out of the last 6 finalists only France are left in. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Edited 2 July, 2018 by Lord Duckhunter
Dark Munster Posted 2 July, 2018 Posted 2 July, 2018 No, if the goalie takes a penalty a skater serves his penalty in the penalty box. Closest is it the goalie has been removed for a skater and an opponent is impeded when shooting into the empty net a goal is given. Yes, that's the one I was thinking of.
Dark Munster Posted 2 July, 2018 Posted 2 July, 2018 They have penalty shots in hockey when a foul causes the team to lose a goal-scoring opportunity on a breakaway but the goalie stays in the net to face the shooter. As Ottawa mentions above, it's when a team pulls the goalie and an opposing player is fouled when on a breakaway toward an empty net, then the goal is automatically given, in place of a penalty shot.
hypochondriac Posted 2 July, 2018 Posted 2 July, 2018 Interesting factsI read this morning. Not one player left in the tournament has played in a World Cup final before. And out of the last 6 finalists only France are left in. Sent from my iPad using TapatalkBrazil?
shurlock Posted 2 July, 2018 Posted 2 July, 2018 Brazil? Italy France Spain Holland Germany Argentina Are the last six finalists. FACT.
hypochondriac Posted 2 July, 2018 Posted 2 July, 2018 Italy France Spain Holland Germany Argentina Are the last six finalists. FACT.Apologies I thought he said last six finals.
SW5 SAINT Posted 2 July, 2018 Posted 2 July, 2018 A world class goalkeeper playing in a Championship class team. But, he'll always remember winning the Premier League with Leicester. Many star players in humdrum teams never experience anything like that in their whole careers. Many stars playing in so called glamour sides never experience that, Gerrard and all the rest of the Liverpool crew of the last three decades........
Pamplemousse Posted 2 July, 2018 Posted 2 July, 2018 https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/which-2018-stars-are-doing-the-best-impressions-of-pele-maradona-and-zidane/ There's a surprising paragraph here England is one of the World Cup’s greatest under-performers since the tournament began, but the Three Lions have managed to get their hands on the trophy once. Bobby Moore captained the side to victory when his country hosted in 1966. Though he was technically a center-back, soccer’s most defensive outfield position, Moore was an all-rounder — he got two assists in the final and completed more passes than anyone on the pitch that day. It’s somewhat unsurprising, then, that his closest 2018 analogue is an offensive right-back — Cedric Soares of Portugal, who maraudes down the right wing and is characterised by progressive passes and dribbles (those that advance the ball at least 10 yards toward the opponent’s goal or into their box) and defensive involvement.
Window Cleaner Posted 2 July, 2018 Posted 2 July, 2018 https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/which-2018-stars-are-doing-the-best-impressions-of-pele-maradona-and-zidane/ There's a surprising paragraph here Bobby Moore was a wing half, the role that has now become defensive midfielder. Left half Bobby Moore (6), Centre Half Jack Charlton(5), Right Half Nobby Stiles(4). Midfield hadn't then been invented and your shirt number told you where you played..
Mystic Force Posted 2 July, 2018 Posted 2 July, 2018 I was amazed by the number of terrible penalties and the ones put down the middle. Once apon a time players aimed for top corners because the keeper could never reach it no matter which way they leapt (but risking embarrassingly ballooning it over), then it became all about game theory and right-left out thinking a goal keeper, aiming for the bottom corners, because that way you won't miss. Yesterday was all about putting it down the middle and hoping the goal keeper jumped far enough away from the ball to let it slide in where they were previously standing.
Cabbage_Face Posted 2 July, 2018 Posted 2 July, 2018 Marquez playing, 39 and on the USA Blacklist. #Baller
Hamilton Saint Posted 2 July, 2018 Posted 2 July, 2018 (edited) It's the annoying commentator again—non-stop blather of statistics, editorializing and irrelevant comment. Let us watch the game and make up our own minds. "This ref has done two previous games. They both ended in draws. If this one ends in a draw, there will be penalty shoot-out. And we had two penalty shoot-outs yesterday." Edited 2 July, 2018 by Hamilton Saint
Hamilton Saint Posted 2 July, 2018 Posted 2 July, 2018 Best move by Neymar, so far, was tying up his yellow bootlaces. Update: he has just done his first roll.
Hamilton Saint Posted 2 July, 2018 Posted 2 July, 2018 I like Mexico's style of attacking—more urgent and direct. They look more likely to score.
Pamplemousse Posted 2 July, 2018 Posted 2 July, 2018 Mexico will run out of steam and Brazil will end up winning
Dark Munster Posted 2 July, 2018 Posted 2 July, 2018 Mexico will run out of steam and Brazil will end up winning Looks like it.
Hamilton Saint Posted 2 July, 2018 Posted 2 July, 2018 Brazil on top, but Mexico still in it. They might get a second wind.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 2 July, 2018 Posted 2 July, 2018 Someone needs to give Neymar a right hander. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
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