Lighthouse Posted 13 May, 2018 Share Posted 13 May, 2018 If it was a straight 50/50 choice, with no, "he’ll never leave, he wants to leave, he’s out of contract, no one will buy him." Etc. Who would you keep for next season? Keep Cédric, Yoshida, Hoedt, Tadic, McC, Romeu, JWP, Lemina, Gabbi, Redmond, Bertrand, Hojbjerg, Sims, McQ, Bednarek, Hesketh Leave Clasie, Stephens, Long, Davis, Austin, Boufal, Forster, Pied, Gardos, Targett, Reed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 13 May, 2018 Share Posted 13 May, 2018 What about Carillo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnersaint Posted 13 May, 2018 Share Posted 13 May, 2018 What about Carillo? Who he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 13 May, 2018 Author Share Posted 13 May, 2018 Oh yeah, sell him obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 13 May, 2018 Share Posted 13 May, 2018 Sell Carrillo, Boufal and Forster Wouldn't want to see anyone else leave, I would be happy with some of our options but as backups only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 13 May, 2018 Share Posted 13 May, 2018 Ones I'd happily see go: Cedric, Clasie, Carrillo, Boufal, Pied, Forster Additional ones I'm certain we'll lose: Gabbiadini, Lemina, Bertrand, Tadic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 13 May, 2018 Share Posted 13 May, 2018 If it was a straight 50/50 choice, with no, "he’ll never leave, he wants to leave, he’s out of contract, no one will buy him." Etc. Who would you keep for next season? Keep Cédric, Yoshida, Hoedt, Tadic, McC, Romeu, JWP, Lemina, Gabbi, Redmond, Bertrand, Hojbjerg, Sims, McQ, Bednarek, Hesketh Leave Clasie, Stephens, Long, Davis, Austin, Boufal, Forster, Pied, Gardos, Targett, Reed Largely agree, but wouldnt let Austin or Long go without being certain replacements are lined up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 13 May, 2018 Share Posted 13 May, 2018 (edited) They won't go but would shed no tears if the likes of Hoedt and the dreadfully overrated Hojbjerg walked. Edited 13 May, 2018 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 13 May, 2018 Share Posted 13 May, 2018 Not that it would happen as this would be to much of an overhaul in one go. Those I want to go: Reed, Krueger. Forster, Yoshida, Davis, Romeu, Boufal, Redmond, Long, Carillo, Austin, Gardos, Pied, Targett, Clasie. Those who I think will go but would otherwise keep: Cedric, Tadic, Gabbiadini, Bertrand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 13 May, 2018 Share Posted 13 May, 2018 ------------------------ McCarthy ---------------- ---- Cedric/New RB----CB / CB------Bertrand -------------------- Romeu Hojbjerg --------------------- Lemina ----- Mane-esque-------- CF---------- Tadic For me, after the last few weeks, that's how we should be. I could take or leave any of the others. I don't think any of our CB's are that bad individually, but no combination could play together as a two. We desperately, desperately need pace with quality combined, whether that's Sisto or Promes who knows, but we need a Mane type. Again, I wouldn't be against Austin or Gabbiadini being our main CF, but we need to supplement them properly otherwise they're not up to it on their own. The turnaround under Hughes has completely reaffirmed by thinking all along that whilst there are definitely some weaknesses, our squad really isn't as terrible as it's looked, but we had the Premier League's worst ever manager dragon us down. Some key players added, rather than wholesale changes, and we could be back to where we were under Koeman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 13 May, 2018 Share Posted 13 May, 2018 Goalkeepers: Keep: McCarthy, Lewis. In: First choice/challenger to McCarthy Out: Forster (if someone will have him), Taylor. I don't know if anyone will take Forster because of his wages though, would he be satisfied as back up through next season? Right back: Keep: Cedric (see below), Valery In: New RB to challenge Cedric long term (+maybe another, see below) Out: Pied If Cedric goes (he may be wanted by bigger clubs) then we'd need to do major surgery with a couple of newbies. Valery still as youth back up. Left Back: Keep: Bertrand (well I would, but think he'll go), McQueen, Targett (if Bertrand goes) In: First choice left back (like Tierney) if Bertrand goes, which may means selling Targett. Out: Bertrand or Targett (see above) Looks like Bertrand will go, do we trust in Targett and McQueen? Part of me hopes not. IMO it'll be a new left back in as first choice, and Bertrand and Targett sold. Centre Back: Keep: Stephens, Hoedt, Bednarek. In: New beast of a centre back Out: Yoshida. I'd keep him but we need a space in the squad for the new centre back and he's been linked away recently. One in, one out. Non-attacking midfield: Keep: Romeu, Hojbjerg, Lemina (unless otherwise courted but I'd like him to stay), JWP, Davis, In: New beast DM, possibly another if Lemina leaves or Davis retires (though I think he has another season in him) Out: Reed, Clasie, possibly one of Lemina or Davis. Definitely would like to see a Wanyamaesque signing. Attacking midfield: Keep: Tadic, Hesketh, Sims, Redmond (unless someone wants him for money but I'd give him one more season) In: A creative player and a pacy winger type player. That's 2 needed here for sure. Out: Boufal (shame but I'd rather keep Hughes than him) Need more strength. Keep Tadic as he's earned it recently, but two new AM's definitely needed IMO. Striker: Keep: Austin, Long In: 2 new strikers please, or one if we keep Gabbiadini but I don't see that happening. Out: Carrillo (but I fear we're stuck with him), Gallagher (to the Championship but with a first choice buy back clause), Gabbiadini (homesick) All in all, full backs and attacking midfield need the most work, but the whole backbone needs strengthening. So much work needs doing though, Hughes is right for this job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 13 May, 2018 Share Posted 13 May, 2018 dreadfully overrated Hojbjerg walked. Thought he would be a good addition for us when we got him, but he really isn't great. Talks well though, which is enough for some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 13 May, 2018 Share Posted 13 May, 2018 Go Yoshida, Hoedt, Stephens, Redmond If any of those are starters next season then we have had yet another awful transfer window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 13 May, 2018 Share Posted 13 May, 2018 The only players I would actively want to sell are Forster, Carrillo and Clasie. Pied & Gardos, what happens happens! Happy enough to see what Hughes can do with Redmond but I remain doubtful about his decision making. I still think Boufal is a talented player, but if Hughes isn't prepared to give him another shot then I'm fine with that. Keep Davis on the basis that fans complain about lack of loyalty and then immediately want to turf players out once they are no longer any good, and he probably is good to have in the camp (cliche I know...) Bertrand is obviously a good player, but he's been with us a while and I feel his performances have been a bit... underwhelming. Not that he isn't trying, but he isn't trying to prove anything. I'd be more than happy to see him in a Saints shirt next year but if he goes and we get a good fee - preferably not to Liverpool - then good luck to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 13 May, 2018 Share Posted 13 May, 2018 Sell Cedric Bertrand Forster and Carrillo and rebuild Would like to sell Hoedt but really can't see that happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 13 May, 2018 Share Posted 13 May, 2018 Would love to keep Bertrand but if he wants to move on let him, we have 2 younger left backs at the club who are ready for the premier league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 13 May, 2018 Share Posted 13 May, 2018 They won't go but would shed no tears if the likes of Hoedt and the dreadfully overrated Hojbjerg walked. If Hojbjerg is dreadfully overrated, what is your assessment of JWP? To me, he is the elephant in the room, who season after season escapes scrutiny. Is it his 7th season coming up. Better attacking players and a midfield nucleus of Lemina, Romeu and Hojbjerg would suit me next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 13 May, 2018 Share Posted 13 May, 2018 Can those who want Yoshida out explain why. And who they expect to get of the same level who won't make a fuss about being third or fourth choice, will always work his socks off and isn't just here for a paycheck? Don't expect loyalty from players if that's how you want them treated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 13 May, 2018 Share Posted 13 May, 2018 Can those who want Yoshida out explain why. And who they expect to get of the same level who won't make a fuss about being third or fourth choice, will always work his socks off and isn't just here for a paycheck? Don't expect loyalty from players if that's how you want them treated. Agree. In no sell list, no matter how angry I am, has Yoshida ever appeared. One of the first names on my Retain List Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Paul C Posted 13 May, 2018 Share Posted 13 May, 2018 Assuming that this list is accurate then we've got a busy summer ahead IMHO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southampton_F.C.#Current_squad To make it easier, the only players I'd keep would be Stephens Hoedt McCarthy Romeu Lemina Gabbiadini Hojbjerg Bednarek Sims Targett Maybe keep Yoshida Tadic Austin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 13 May, 2018 Share Posted 13 May, 2018 Assuming that this list is accurate then we've got a busy summer ahead IMHO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southampton_F.C.#Current_squad To make it easier, the only players I'd keep would be Stephens Hoedt McCarthy Romeu Lemina Gabbiadini Hojbjerg Bednarek Sims Targett Maybe keep Yoshida Tadic Austin How many top flight teams can you name that have sold as many players in a summer as you are suggesting? Simply doesn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Paul C Posted 13 May, 2018 Share Posted 13 May, 2018 How many top flight teams can you name that have sold as many players in a summer as you are suggesting? Simply doesn't happen. Don't particularly care - just shows the utter ineptitude of our recent hiring and squad development that from a list of ~35 players we've only really got 13 worthy of staying at the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 13 May, 2018 Share Posted 13 May, 2018 Don't particularly care - just shows the utter ineptitude of our recent hiring and squad development that from a list of ~35 players we've only really got 13 worthy of staying at the club. I don't have a lot of problem with the vast majority of the squad in terms of quality of player. I put our poor season largely down to a very poor managerial appointment. If this squad had a competent manager from the beginning of the season I think they would have been challenging for the top half of the table again. I'd prefer our squad to that of Burnley or Newcastle, both finished in the top half not due to player quality but being managed extremely well. Benitez & Dyche wouldn't have had Saints in a relegation battle if they were in charge from day one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 13 May, 2018 Share Posted 13 May, 2018 I think it all depends what the ambitions are. The club kept saying how they wanted European football - well assuming that remains the ambition, then we will need improvements in all departments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 13 May, 2018 Share Posted 13 May, 2018 Go Yoshida, Hoedt, Stephens, Redmond If any of those are starters next season then we have had yet another awful transfer window. Couldn't disagree more. Yoshida is first on my sheet probably captain next season, Stephens and Hoedt are good players who will get better in a more settled club and Redmond is criticised because he attacks with speed and imagination in a team which doesn't, next season he is due a blinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 13 May, 2018 Share Posted 13 May, 2018 (edited) Not sure how much you can read into the lap of honour (I'm still scarred by Pahars' farewell)...but I fear Cedric and Tadic are off. I'd like to keep them both. I'd only get rid of deadwood (Boufal, Carillo) or those who want to move on for whatever reason (Gabbiadini, Bertrand, Cedric, Tadic, Yosh may be in the latter category, but hope not for any of them) Edited 13 May, 2018 by SaintBobby typos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 14 May, 2018 Share Posted 14 May, 2018 Go for me. Pied Reed Clasie Austin Carrillo Boufal Forster I can see one of the CBs going, yoshida by the sounds of it. One of the full backs going, if not both. So cant see us shipping out 10 players or so. Essential we keep McCarthy, Tadic, the 3 CMs. I would keep Davis for one more year. Great leader there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 14 May, 2018 Share Posted 14 May, 2018 Couldn't disagree more. Yoshida is first on my sheet probably captain next season, Stephens and Hoedt are good players who will get better in a more settled club and Redmond is criticised because he attacks with speed and imagination in a team which doesn't, next season he is due a blinder Enjoy another relegation battle then. All of those players are massive downgrades on what we once had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 14 May, 2018 Share Posted 14 May, 2018 what is your assessment of JWP? To me, he is the elephant in the room, who season after season escapes scrutiny. Is it his 7th season coming up. I have to agree. Every manager since Adkins gave him his debut has picked him then after a while dropped him again. Puel was the one who stuck with him longest. JWP really is an enigma. He can look quite good but most of the time you barely notice he’s playing or remember his contribution to a game. Apart from the infamous dead ball specialist tag I’m still not sure what he contributes or what position suits him best. After six seasons he should by now have formed an identity within the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 14 May, 2018 Author Share Posted 14 May, 2018 Enjoy another relegation battle then. All of those players are massive downgrades on what we once had. He wouldn't be first name on the teamsheet but I'd be happy with him starting. Needs a stronger, more experience partner than what we've got, which is why I'd sell Stephens. Partly because I don't think he's a Premier League standard player and partly because there's not room for 3 inxeperienced CB in the squad. Out of him, Hoedt and Bednarek, I'd lose Jack personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 14 May, 2018 Share Posted 14 May, 2018 I don't have a lot of problem with the vast majority of the squad in terms of quality of player. I put our poor season largely down to a very poor managerial appointment. If this squad had a competent manager from the beginning of the season I think they would have been challenging for the top half of the table again. I'd prefer our squad to that of Burnley or Newcastle, both finished in the top half not due to player quality but being managed extremely well. Benitez & Dyche wouldn't have had Saints in a relegation battle if they were in charge from day one. You're not wrong, appointing Pellegrino was the main issue and why we were embroiled in a relegation fight until the last day of the season. However, I think it's also fair to say that everyone below Burnley were pretty poor this year. A better manager might have us further up the table but probably not far enough to 'escape' the pack, most of whom were looking over their shoulders at the bottom three for a while (Newcastle finished 10th and when we played them it felt like a relegation 6-pointer, for example). Even though we might have a stronger squad than some other clubs, do we have many players that get you on the edge of your seat? In the way that, and I know that he is a bit of a one off for a club in the bottom half, Zaha does at Palace? Or Mane did when he was here? Boufal could have been that player, but now Redmond is the closest thing we have to it. His decision making always leaves a lot to be desired, to the point that he plays well for about half an hour and then you spend the next few weeks thinking "maybe we'll see that Nathan Redmond again today". We definitely need to inject a bit of pace into the side, especially now we are playing a bit more on the break and not the "possession for possession sake" football of Pellegrino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 14 May, 2018 Share Posted 14 May, 2018 Couldn't disagree more. Yoshida is first on my sheet probably captain next season, Stephens and Hoedt are good players who will get better in a more settled club and Redmond is criticised because he attacks with speed and imagination in a team which doesn't, next season he is due a blinder Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 14 May, 2018 Share Posted 14 May, 2018 He wouldn't be first name on the teamsheet but I'd be happy with him starting. Needs a stronger, more experience partner than what we've got, which is why I'd sell Stephens. Partly because I don't think he's a Premier League standard player and partly because there's not room for 3 inxeperienced CB in the squad. Out of him, Hoedt and Bednarek, I'd lose Jack personally. Agree about Yoshida. He plays well when he is alongside a dominant player as he covers the ground quickly and reads the game pretty well. Although he's not brilliant in the air, he's not a total liability like "let the ball bounce" Stephens is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyd Posted 14 May, 2018 Share Posted 14 May, 2018 Sell Carrillo, Boufal and Forster Wouldn't want to see anyone else leave, I would be happy with some of our options but as backups only I think we need a clear out. Redmond, Stevens, Forster, Davis and Long all fall short and are too expensive to keep. Boufal should be told to leave after his behavior and Reed has never shown enough promise. Obviously, the problem may be in finding clubs for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EkonOkereke Posted 14 May, 2018 Share Posted 14 May, 2018 Keep Cédric, Yohida, Tadic, McC, Romeu, Lemina, Gabbi, Bertrand, Hojbjerg, Sims, McQ, Bednarek, Hesketh Leave Clasie, Stephens, Long, Davis, Austin, Boufal, Forster, Pied, Gardos, Targett, Reed, Redmond, JWP, Hoedt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 14 May, 2018 Share Posted 14 May, 2018 If it was a straight 50/50 choice, with no, "he’ll never leave, he wants to leave, he’s out of contract, no one will buy him." Etc. Who would you keep for next season? Keep Cédric, Yoshida, Hoedt, Tadic, McC, Romeu, JWP, Lemina, Gabbi, Redmond, Bertrand, Hojbjerg, Sims, McQ, Bednarek, Hesketh Leave Clasie, Stephens, Long, Davis, Austin, Boufal, Forster, Pied, Gardos, Targett, Reed Austin? Our top scorer and only guy that looks likely to score goals regularly, that would be stupid IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 14 May, 2018 Author Share Posted 14 May, 2018 Austin? Our top scorer and only guy that looks likely to score goals regularly, that would be stupid IMO. There's a least minging pair of boxers in my laundry basket but they all need washing. He has 14 league goals in 2.5 years and is a perennial sick note. If he could do that in 1 season it would be lovely but he can't. He reminds me of Sturridge and the people on here who said I was an idiot for not wanting him at Saints, because he would score the goals which keep West Brom up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 14 May, 2018 Share Posted 14 May, 2018 Why don't we keep them all? Better to concentrate on building a good team spirit and get another 15% out of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 14 May, 2018 Share Posted 14 May, 2018 Could Mahrez leave LCFC and be replaced by Boufal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 14 May, 2018 Share Posted 14 May, 2018 Players I expect to leave: Cedric (entering last year of 4 year deal) Pied (contract expiring, won't be renewed) Boufal (considered to be a bellend; loan to French club) Gabbiadini (back to Italy although would like to keep if he's keen to stay) Plus those who have been out on loan like: Clasie (perm to Holland) Gardos (perm to somewhere in Europe or the Championship) Reed (perm to Championship club) Gallagher (perm to Championship club) Then there are the following players who I think we would happily sell if we got a decent offer, although they might be hard to move on: Forster (overpaid) Austin (often injured, although I doubt we would sell him, Long and Carillo in the same window) Carillo (considered rubbish but we might have to loan him out and pay some of his wages) Long (doesn't score enough and value will only go down, although I would keep him) Davis (surplus to requirements but not sure if he would want to move) Targett (maybe viewed as PL capable but if Bertrand stays then I think we would look to take the money after his decent spell at Fulham) Of the above, I would want to keep Long and Gabbi but I suspect we may end up with some of the ones on the last list still being here too. In terms of additions, we would need: GK if Forster goes to challenge McCarthy Starting RB As backup RB I would use Stephens First choice CB Upgrade on Redmond / Boufal if possible Striker In an ideal world, that leaves: McCarthy **NEW** **NEW** Stephens Bertrand McQueen **NEW** Hoedt Bednarek Yoshida Romeu Hojbjerg Lemina JWP **NEW** Tadic Redmond Sims **NEW** Long / Austin Gabbi (plus Gallagher if no sizeable offers made) Then a few youth as additional backup. If the "news" are good quality and we have a manager in place that the players can get behind then there's no reason not to target "best of the rest". Of course, we have no idea what our appetite to spend will be. It will probably depend on how many of the "might leaves" we can shift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 14 May, 2018 Share Posted 14 May, 2018 Just a note on Cedric, he has two years left - he signed a new one when Puel was here, so it expires in 2020. Still, two years left is around the sort of time you start to think what you do with him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBitterne Posted 14 May, 2018 Share Posted 14 May, 2018 Could Mahrez leave LCFC and be replaced by Boufal? Potentially, can see them going after shaqiri to replace mahrez if/when he goes. Hopefully see the back of- boufal carillo one of the cb's( I feel they're all of a similar level) Forster - This is the big one for me, we cannot justify having a keeper on 70k plus warming the bench. Davis Forster as well as shipping out some youth players. Trim the squad and bring some exciting talent in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 14 May, 2018 Share Posted 14 May, 2018 Thought he would be a good addition for us when we got him, but he really isn't great. Talks well though, which is enough for some. I think some people forget how young he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 14 May, 2018 Share Posted 14 May, 2018 Potentially, can see them going after shaqiri to replace mahrez if/when he goes. Hopefully see the back of- boufal carillo one of the cb's( I feel they're all of a similar level) Forster - This is the big one for me, we cannot justify having a keeper on 70k plus warming the bench. Davis Forster as well as shipping out some youth players. Trim the squad and bring some exciting talent in Don't forget Forster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 14 May, 2018 Share Posted 14 May, 2018 (edited) There's a least minging pair of boxers in my laundry basket but they all need washing. He has 14 league goals in 2.5 years and is a perennial sick note. If he could do that in 1 season it would be lovely but he can't. He reminds me of Sturridge and the people on here who said I was an idiot for not wanting him at Saints, because he would score the goals which keep West Brom up. 1 in 3 for us and that is with a lot of meaningless sub appearances and two fairly negative managers. Even with his injury problems, it would be madness to get rid of a proven PL scorer. Sturridge has played 14 league games in the last two years, Austin has played 38 so it's no comparison at all. He appeared 23 times this season and Pellegrino sat him of the bench for the first 10 games of the season, not playing him so he could have had closer to 30 league games which is hardly a 'perennial sick note'. ------------------------------ We are also not going to ship anywhere near as many as people are suggesting here. Can't see more than about 3-4 actually being sold and a few of the ones out of contract will leave. Edited 14 May, 2018 by tajjuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 14 May, 2018 Share Posted 14 May, 2018 I’m probably in the minority here, but I wouldn’t want a mass exodus, even though the players have let themselves down for a vast amount of the season. I’d be looking for a couple of tweaks, evolution not revolution. If I could I’d bin Gabbi & Carillo, I’d keep long as he offers a different option, and bring in 2 strikers, one of which will be our number one, no doubts about it. The vast amount of any money needs to be spent on this, and it needs to be quality. Whether Gallagher is up to being the other is down to Hughes, I haven’t seen him play enough to really comment. The centre 3 are plenty good enough, given decent tactical set up and management. Tadic, Redmond I’d keep, so replace Boufal with a wide midfield man. JWP is an ok squad man, but he’s at the crossroads of his career. Whether Reed is good enough for a squad place is again something I can’t really say. Ideally I’d like to keep the full backs, but can’t see it. As frustrating as they are, they are internationals and have experience and ability. A proper manager will get more out of them than Pell did. Pied will obviously go. The centre halves is the interesting one for me. I like Stephens & Bednarek , think they’ve got potential. They’ve played ok under Hughes. Hoedt is the difficult one. He’s shown signs of improvement under Hughes, plays on the left of a 3, maybe worth keeping. Which leaves us with Yoshida. We need a leader in there, in the centre, Yoshida ain’t that. We need somebody to help the youngsters, look at how much better they’ve been with a dominate keeper, add a central defender whose the same and maybe the 3 youngsters can flourish. Stephens/ Bednarek can take the right side. Therefore, if such a player exists, I’d like to see a centre half, that could also play on the left of a 3, but mainly plays centrally. So I’d options would be; Right hand side Stephens/ Bednarek or even Yoshida . Central; Yoshida/ new bloke. Left; Hoedt/ new bloke. That’s 5 centre halves, maybe a bit too heavy, but that’s what I’d do. The keeper situation is simple, keep them both. FF is perfectly acceptable as back up. Basically I’ve added a proper striker, a real deal. A dominate centre half, and a replacement for Boufal. Plus possibly a couple of nippers up front and in midfield, and full back . That’s it. I don’t see the point in throwing the baby out with the bath water. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 14 May, 2018 Share Posted 14 May, 2018 Don't particularly care - just shows the utter ineptitude of our recent hiring and squad development that from a list of ~35 players we've only really got 13 worthy of staying at the club. Nearly half of that list is part of the under 23 squad and you'd keep Hoedt who with Carillo has been the worst of the lot??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Paul C Posted 14 May, 2018 Share Posted 14 May, 2018 Nearly half of that list is part of the under 23 squad and you'd keep Hoedt who with Carillo has been the worst of the lot??? Yes, I'd keep Hoedt. Yes he sometimes plays like a pig on roller skates and drops the occasional clanger, but there's a half-decent centre back hidden in there and I'd keep him for another season to see if he can mature. I think he needs and experienced CB alongside who can bring the best out of him. Carillo on the other hand, there's something very dodgy about that signing IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 14 May, 2018 Share Posted 14 May, 2018 I’m probably in the minority here, but I wouldn’t want a mass exodus, even though the players have let themselves down for a vast amount of the season. I’d be looking for a couple of tweaks, evolution not revolution. If I could I’d bin Gabbi & Carillo, I’d keep long as he offers a different option, and bring in 2 strikers, one of which will be our number one, no doubts about it. The vast amount of any money needs to be spent on this, and it needs to be quality. Whether Gallagher is up to being the other is down to Hughes, I haven’t seen him play enough to really comment. The centre 3 are plenty good enough, given decent tactical set up and management. Tadic, Redmond I’d keep, so replace Boufal with a wide midfield man. JWP is an ok squad man, but he’s at the crossroads of his career. Whether Reed is good enough for a squad place is again something I can’t really say. Ideally I’d like to keep the full backs, but can’t see it. As frustrating as they are, they are internationals and have experience and ability. A proper manager will get more out of them than Pell did. Pied will obviously go. The centre halves is the interesting one for me. I like Stephens & Bednarek , think they’ve got potential. They’ve played ok under Hughes. Hoedt is the difficult one. He’s shown signs of improvement under Hughes, plays on the left of a 3, maybe worth keeping. Which leaves us with Yoshida. We need a leader in there, in the centre, Yoshida ain’t that. We need somebody to help the youngsters, look at how much better they’ve been with a dominate keeper, add a central defender whose the same and maybe the 3 youngsters can flourish. Stephens/ Bednarek can take the right side. Therefore, if such a player exists, I’d like to see a centre half, that could also play on the left of a 3, but mainly plays centrally. So I’d options would be; Right hand side Stephens/ Bednarek or even Yoshida . Central; Yoshida/ new bloke. Left; Hoedt/ new bloke. That’s 5 centre halves, maybe a bit too heavy, but that’s what I’d do. The keeper situation is simple, keep them both. FF is perfectly acceptable as back up. Basically I’ve added a proper striker, a real deal. A dominate centre half, and a replacement for Boufal. Plus possibly a couple of nippers up front and in midfield, and full back . That’s it. I don’t see the point in throwing the baby out with the bath water. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Agree with this. I don’t think the squad is that bad, it’s just been badly managed. A bit of a shake up up front and a replacement for VVD and Hughes can get this lot up where Burnley are. Think many on here don’t really understand how exoensive it is to have such a high turnover of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 14 May, 2018 Share Posted 14 May, 2018 Keep McCarthy, Cédric, Yoshida, Hoedt, Bednarek, Bertrand, McQueen Romeu, JWP, Lemina, Hojbjerg, Hesketh Tadic, Redmond, Sims Long Leave Forster Stephens, Gardos, Pied, Targett Clasie, Davis, Reed Boufal Austin, Gabbiadini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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