Singapore Saint Posted 9 May, 2018 Share Posted 9 May, 2018 What happens if Swansea make up the 9-point goal difference e.g. Swansea beat Stoke by 3 goals and City beat us by 6 on the final day? How do we decide who gets relegated: toss a coin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 9 May, 2018 Share Posted 9 May, 2018 (edited) What happens if Swansea make up the 9-point goal difference e.g. Swansea beat Stoke by 3 goals and City beat us by 6 on the final day? How do we decide who gets relegated: toss a coin? In the scenario you outlined with both on the same points and GD... Saints would stay up due to scoring more goals this season (27 GF vs 37 GF). Swansea require a 10 goal swing in GD in order to stay up. Edited 9 May, 2018 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Pete Posted 9 May, 2018 Share Posted 9 May, 2018 Goals scored, which we are also ahead on. So they effectively need a 10 goal swing. Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 9 May, 2018 Share Posted 9 May, 2018 Swansea have never beaten Stoke by more than a 3 goal margin and they've played them 69 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 9 May, 2018 Share Posted 9 May, 2018 Relax. It isn’t going to happen. Swans vs Stoke will likely be a draw or Stoke win. Man City have no reason whatsoever to try and tonk us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 But they hate Hughes and would love to see him relegated. I'm probably being super paranoid. Do they? You really think they would put their careers on the line to lay down vs Swansea and get done for what amounts to match fixing? These guys have egos, no way they want to be remembered as the chumps who laid down and lost due to a grudge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 It's just a bit unnerving, isn't it? Should be fine, obviously...I'm not expecting Stoke to deliberately lose 8-0 or 9-0. But I suppose a 5-0 win for Swansea and a 5-0 loss for us is just about plausible on the pessimistic extremes. The bookmakers make us about 100/1 to still be relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 (edited) 79-0 v 67-0 Nigerian MOTD must have been a good watch.. 72 goals on 2nd half which wouldn’t have thought possible. Nigerian clubs suspended after 'scandalous' scorelineshttp://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/23240104 Edited 10 May, 2018 by whelk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 Don't worry; McCarthy is in between the sticks, so nobody is going score many goals against him, not even City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 City have already got their goals scored record and any sort of win will give them 100 (like any of their players really care about that more than not getting injured for the WC) If they did go 2 goals ahead, they will probably coast along in 3rd gear for the rest of the game and Swansea wont be scoring 8 any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 72 goals in the second half!!!! Somewhat unsubtle I think you might say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 I'd imagine Stoke players have win bonuses in their contracts so there's always that, plus Lambert probably wants to make a claim to be manager next season. If it did happen however, it would be the most hilarious relegation in the history of relegations, obviously not from our point of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 I personally think we'll give City a good game, we'll be buoyed from Tuesday and most of their players will probably only play at 70-80% I reckon as they won't want to get injured for the World Cup when they have nothing to play for. Guardiola has said he wants 100 points, but they have broken every record so it's a meaningless game for them, whereas our lads will know there is the risk and will want to give the home fans a good send off after such a miserable season. They owe us a performance against a top 6 side. Plus you are expecting Swansea to suddenly come out with 5 or 6 goals after they have scored just 2 in what the last 10 games? Finally Lambert will want to put on a good performance to confirm him keeping the Stoke job next year and he'll want to get some of the players he wants to use next year in that team so I can't see Stoke going there and getting rolled over. All these players are professional, they won't happily take getting beaten 5-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 Surely city want to set the best record possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 You would hope that no players personal pride wants to be relegated as the rock bottom of the table team. Alongside that if Jack Butland is in goal, seeing as he is in competition with Jordan Pickford for a starting England spot, he won’t be wanting to queer his pitch by shipping a shed load of goals in the final game of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 I'd imagine Stoke players have win bonuses in their contracts so there's always that, plus Lambert probably wants to make a claim to be manager next season. If it did happen however, it would be the most hilarious relegation in the history of relegations, obviously not from our point of view. And many of the Stoke players will be looking for new job offers after Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 I'm sure Stoke would prefer Swansea to go down anyway rather than us. We're a bigger club and we would be more of a threat to their promotion chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 Aguero is 10 and Sterling 13 goals behind Salah in the race for the golden boot. So expect 23-0 at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 They still need to win to get the record for the most away wins in the season. But they have got the most goals after the Brighton game and 100 points is still a target. Not sure about the most clean sheets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 I could see swansea winning 3-0. Sean Dyche sides don't usually get stuffed by five goals, and for that reason alone I won't be 100% confident until its done and dusted. As it happens, I have a feeling we'll go behind, but keep it to one goal before levelling very late in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 They are the lowest scoring team in the top flight, their top scorrer has 6 goals. They haven't scored a goal in 4 games. They were utterly toothless against us. They know it's up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 Aguero is 10 and Sterling 13 goals behind Salah in the race for the golden boot. So expect 23-0 at least. Main piece of good news is Aguero is out for the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 I could see swansea winning 3-0. Sean Dyche sides don't usually get stuffed by five goals, and for that reason alone I won't be 100% confident until its done and dusted. As it happens, I have a feeling we'll go behind, but keep it to one goal before levelling very late in the game. How is Sean Dyche relevant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Lej Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 How is Sean Dyche relevant? The whole post doesn't make any sense, let alone Sean Dyche being mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EkonOkereke Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 No way will we go down now, unless our players are cowards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 Hate to go all MLG pedantic on you .... But take the word 'point' out of the thread title. There's no 9 points on offer. It's a 9 goal swing or more accurately a 10 goal advantage needed. Will it happen? Probably not ... probably ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie May Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 Judging by how poor Swansea looked and how tight Stoke are at the back under Lambert, I cannot see the former getting anywhere near six goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 How is Sean Dyche relevant? What I meant was that nothing else, his sides are usually set up very well defensively. Burnley don't ship many goals, the are where they are on the back of that, they aren't a fluent goal scoring machine but they are solid in defence and hard to beat. I wouldn't have expected them to get stuffed five nil by anyone, even allowing for the "wenger just resigned" factor, but at this stage of the season odd results crop up. It's not unimaginable that citeh could run riot in the last game of the season, and if arsenal can put five past burnley.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 Should be noted that Swansea have only managed to score more than 2 goals in a league game twice this season, vs Arsenal and West Ham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom & Gerry Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 Don't expect an open expansive game on Sunday. We will try to keep it very tight for 80 minutes Then if it's still 0-0 and Swansea aren't 5-0 up we'll bring on 3 attacking players and go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 Anyone thinking we'll go down is an idiot, and anyone putting cash on it deserves to lose their money. We'll lose, Swansea may win, but there ain't gonna be a 10 goal swing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 Given they have just told their manager Sunday is his last game come what may dont worry yourselves too much about any of the coaching team/players giving a ****. Any vaguely slim chance they had just got a whole lot slimmer !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 Given they have just told their manager Sunday is his last game come what may dont worry yourselves too much about any of the coaching team/players giving a ****. Any vaguely slim chance they had just got a whole lot slimmer !! Really? Doesn't sound like a very smart move to me. Then again neither was appointing that American idiot Bradley so I guess this must be considered as par for their owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 Really? Doesn't sound like a very smart move to me. Then again neither was appointing that American idiot Bradley so I guess this must be considered as par for their owners. Yeah BBC Sport breaking news about 15 mins ago. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44064957 Why the hell would you announce that three days before the last match ? Seriously ? And we think have some numpties running this club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 Yeah BBC Sport breaking news about 15 mins ago. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44064957 Why the hell would you announce that three days before the last match ? Seriously ? And we think have some numpties running this club I suppose that Carvalhal could have insisted on knowing his fate before the last game. Then again that doesn't sound all that smart either given that his contract runs out at the end of the season anyway.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 Let's not forget that whatever the result for every goal we score Swansea would have to score another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 So Stoke has only conceded more than 2 goals once under Lambert, and that was at Arsenal. Meanwhile Swansea is in free fall, bickering among themselves, and haven't scored in 2 consecutive matches. I actually think Stoke wins this. On our side I bet Hughes packs the box and uses his Chelsea "counter attack" game plan keeping it close. I could see us losing 3-1, and I guess the Swans winning 3-1 (just for conversation), but that still falls well short of 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 This is actually one of those games where you still keep playing as if it’s 0-0 even if you’re 3-0 down. If a top flight team defends every single situation like the whole result depends on it they’ll not get beat by more than 4. The 5,6 and 7’s you see are because sides jack in. The other side of the coin, is why would city bust a gut when they’re 3 up. Make no mistake if City needed to get 7 to win the league, I reckon they could do so. But they don’t. Provided we are serious, the worst that could happen is 3 or 4. If Swansea put 6 or 7 past Stoke, good luck to them. Personally I think we’ll get beat 3-1 and they’ll draw 2-2 Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 If I was Mark Hughes I would be playing it very tight from the off, allowing plenty of time to take throw ins and goalkicks etc and trying to keep the score down until the last quarter, a bit like Wigan did, albeit against 10 men. My nightmare is having a player sent off early doors and being 3-0 or 4-0 down at half time with Swansea a couple or three goals up. Dont think I could bear the second half. Still fair play to Swansea if they were able to turn it round but serious questions would have to be asked a la Bruce Grobelaar v Spurs and the Wimbledon keeper in their last game at Everton several years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 New manager bounce? Possible ? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 It's just as likely as Leicester winning the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fez Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 In the ultra-unlikely event of us and Swansea ending up equal on points, goal difference and goals scored, there'd be a play-off match according to Prem League rules. I'd hoped it would be decided by head to head results but apparently not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 In the ultra-unlikely event of us and Swansea ending up equal on points, goal difference and goals scored, there'd be a play-off match according to Prem League rules. I'd hoped it would be decided by head to head results but apparently not You'd think so eh but Sky and the Prem love all that extra $$$$$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 From Wales On-line, pretty funny: "Bookmakers William Hill are offering odds of 100/1 on it happening, while others are even saying it's a 150/1 shot. The Swans are now 1/1000 on to be relegated. To put the odds into context, you can get the same odds on Swansea staying up now as pop star Kanye West winning the next Presidential election, UFOs being proved to exist by 2020 and temperatures hitting 45c in the UK this summer." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 Yeah BBC Sport breaking news about 15 mins ago. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44064957 Why the hell would you announce that three days before the last match ? Seriously ? And we think have some numpties running this club Too fool us into thinking that they think its all over so we think its all over and that they really think its not all over so that they beat Stoke by a large amount and we lose by a large amount proving it was never all over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 I can't believe Swansea hasn't scored a goal in their last 4 matches. Thats 360++ minutes without a score. Add to that they've only scored 2 goals in their past 8 matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 There's more chance of Heisenberg getting laid than Swansea making up that GD gap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 Based on everything that's happened so far this season, I can't see Swansea winning at all, let alone by the margins that some are bandying about. "Nightmare" scenarios of Swansea being 3 up and us being 3 down at half time just won't happen, no bloody chance. Another season in the Prem next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stud mark of doom Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 If we lose 1 0 and Swansea win 10 2, do we stay up in alphabetical order? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 10 May, 2018 Share Posted 10 May, 2018 I fancy Stoke to make a game of it now the pressure's off. They've often taken the lead and crumbled under pressure this season but won't have the same nerves on Sunday. And they're facing the worst attack in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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