hypochondriac Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 What fan expectations? Judging from the comments above literally no one thinks that a deal for Welbeck is going to happen.Agreed. I doubt we will sign anyone but I'd love to be pleasantly surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 Stanislav Lobotka again Tottenham haven’t made any actual attempt to sign him yet, but one Premier League club has. Le Voz state Southampton have submitted a €24m offer for the player, which was immediately knocked back by Celta. http://sportwitness.co.uk/midfielder-interacting-repeat-way-tottenham-southampton-e25m-offer-goes/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 Ings rumours just won't go away https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/liverpool-expect-danny-ings-to-leave-with-crystal-palace-and-southampton-leading-race-for-20m-a3906446.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 Agreed. I doubt we will sign anyone but I'd love to be pleasantly surprised. The impression I get is that our failure to shift a number of high earners on permanent deals instead of loans has seriously ****_ed up some of our intended deals. FF, Carillo, Boufal, Long (although Hughes wanted him to stay), Claise, Davis (same as Long). Their wages must seriously add up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 The impression I get is that our failure to shift a number of high earners on permanent deals instead of loans has seriously ****_ed up some of our intended deals. FF, Carillo, Boufal, Long (although Hughes wanted him to stay), Claise, Davis (same as Long). Their wages must seriously add up. Just seen this in the Telegraph.. Why are Premier League clubs struggling to sell their unwanted players? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/08/08/premier-league-clubs-struggling-sell-unwanted-players/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 Never really bought the wages argument. If I was in a job that required a specific level of skill and was let go because I didn't quite make the grade, I wouldn't grumble about going to the company next door who would give me slightly less responsibility for slightly less money. I was being overpaid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 Never really bought the wages argument. If I was in a job that required a specific level of skill and was let go because I didn't quite make the grade, I wouldn't grumble about going to the company next door who would give me slightly less responsibility for slightly less money. I was being overpaid! I obviously don't know for sure, but I'm guessing you wouldn't have a parasitic agent who stands to make £millions out of any deal negotiating on your behalf in such a situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 So has Usain Bolt! Are we in for him?Signed for Gold Coast Mariners. Sent from my SM-A520F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Regular_Irregular Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 Rumour is that Chelsea are bringing in Kovacic on loan, leaving Chelsea with around nine players in the first-team squad fighting over 3 CM spots. Although are midfield is arguably our strongest area, surely adding someone like Loftus-Cheek, who looks like his minutes could be limited, on loan would be a good option for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 8 August, 2018 Author Share Posted 8 August, 2018 Rumour is that Chelsea are bringing in Kovacic on loan, leaving Chelsea with around nine players in the first-team squad fighting over 3 CM spots. Although are midfield is arguably our strongest area, surely adding someone like Loftus-Cheek, who looks like his minutes could be limited, on loan would be a good option for us? RLC will probably end up back at Palace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Regular_Irregular Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 RLC will probably end up back at Palace Probably, but they did just sign Meyer - who often players number 10 or 8 - on massive deal and Kouyate, so they may not be in the market for yet another CM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 In terms of minutes on the pitch last season (league and Europa League), he averaged a goal or assist just over every other game. No idea what that’s like in comparison to our strikers though. A current England striker isn't good enough for Saints? Seriously? Your expectations are certainly high... Come up with whatever rationalisations you like, he has scored 41 goals in 9 years of Premier League football. He is basically Shola Ameobi but at a big club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 The impression I get is that our failure to shift a number of high earners on permanent deals instead of loans has seriously ****_ed up some of our intended deals. FF, Carillo, Boufal, Long (although Hughes wanted him to stay), Claise, Davis (same as Long). Their wages must seriously add up. FFP allows us another £7m on top of last year's wages, plus additional commercial revenue, plus profit from player trading, plus we've removed Tadic and VVD who were probably our top earners or very close to it. All their replacements have been newcomers to the PL, and thus wont be on anything like the wages of the two who left. Even taking into account continuing to pay partial wages for loanees, I don't believe for a minute that the stumbling block to signings is a lack of extra headroom on the wage budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Jim Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 Signed for Gold Coast Mariners. Sent from my SM-A520F using Tapatalk I think you mean Central Coast Mariners (and he hasn’t sign yet, just training with them) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 Never really bought the wages argument. If I was in a job that required a specific level of skill and was let go because I didn't quite make the grade, I wouldn't grumble about going to the company next door who would give me slightly less responsibility for slightly less money. I was being overpaid! I obviously don't know for sure, but I'm guessing you wouldn't have a parasitic agent who stands to make £millions out of any deal negotiating on your behalf in such a situation. or the ability to sit in the job you are not good enough for and keep collecting the higher wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliemiller Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 Can we still sign free agents after Thursday ? serious question ...there is a few that might add something for a season or two on the free list imho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 Can we still sign free agents after Thursday ? serious question ...there is a few that might add something for a season or two on the free list imho I assume you can take free agents, but I think you have to give a list of your squad and cant add to that, something along those lines anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliemiller Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 I assume you can take free agents, but I think you have to give a list of your squad and cant add to that, something along those lines anyway Interesting the players that have been knob heads are without clubs , ben arfa and nasri Diego reyes from porto , yaya toure for a season ? bakary sako released from palace left winger pace n power ? jeremy pied some right back released from saints lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 Can we still sign free agents after Thursday ? serious question Yes there is a few that might add something for a season or two on the free list imho Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 Interesting the players that have been knob heads are without clubs , ben arfa and nasri Diego reyes from porto , yaya toure for a season ? bakary sako released from palace left winger pace n power ? jeremy pied some right back released from saints lol Nasri is suspended until the 1st January 2019 so no sane club will take him on before that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Kucho Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 Rumour is that Chelsea are bringing in Kovacic on loan, leaving Chelsea with around nine players in the first-team squad fighting over 3 CM spots. Although are midfield is arguably our strongest area, surely adding someone like Loftus-Cheek, who looks like his minutes could be limited, on loan would be a good option for us? The Times saying that due to Kovavic coming in, Barkley, Drinkwater and Loftus Cheek can look out for new clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 The Times saying that due to Kovavic coming in, Barkley, Drinkwater and Loftus Cheek can look out for new clubs. Would take all of those Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 Graeme Bailey, ex Sky, saying Newcastle have a free run at Ings as Saints and Palace (rightly) won't pay the £20m. Newcastle ready with a loan offer with sizeable guarenteed purchase fee. David Maddock, Mirror, saying Liverpool confident of selling Ings before the deadline and Saints favourites at this stage. Personally not sure Ings is the profile of forward we need and a huge injury risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowers-sfc Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 Les reeds on a flight to Spain at the moment *♂️ I have no idea if it’s transfer related or where he’s going though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 Graeme Bailey, ex Sky, saying Newcastle have a free run at Ings as Saints and Palace (rightly) won't pay the £20m. Newcastle ready with a loan offer with sizeable guarenteed purchase fee. David Maddock, Mirror, saying Liverpool confident of selling Ings before the deadline and Saints favourites at this stage. Personally not sure Ings is the profile of forward we need and a huge injury risk. Ings on a Bosman when he left Burnley , yes. At £20m, - or even £10m - with his injury record and it's out of the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 Les reeds on a flight to Spain at the moment ����*♂️ I have no idea if it’s transfer related or where he’s going though �� Lamborghini time ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 Les reeds on a flight to Spain at the moment *♂️ I have no idea if it’s transfer related or where he’s going though Going to buy a Lamborgini, as usual a cheap knock-off type, not the real thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 Les reeds on a flight to Spain at the moment ����*♂️ I have no idea if it’s transfer related or where he’s going though �� Would be a very strange time to take a holiday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliemiller Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 is the flight to barcelona ???? alcacer ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 Lamborghini time ? what in Spain they are Italian more likely gone to get Carillo back a SEAT.....Alcacer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 Yeah off to get that Barcelona striker in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 what in Spain they are Italian more likely gone to get Carillo back a SEAT.....Alcacer? Going on the Les standard purchase it will be a second hand one, possibly from the Spanish equivalent of Auto Trader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 Yeah off to get that Barcelona striker in Or the Celta Vigo midfielder Lobotka http://sportwitness.co.uk/midfielder-interacting-repeat-way-tottenham-southampton-e25m-offer-goes/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 Or the Celta Vigo midfielder Lobotka http://sportwitness.co.uk/midfielder-interacting-repeat-way-tottenham-southampton-e25m-offer-goes/ Can't we do a 'job lot' with Celta Vigo - Lobotka, Sisto, & Gomez ? No idea if Gomez is any goods but many a rsident expert on here seems to think so. Perhaps they can keep Boufal, & take FF on loan in exchange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 The Wellbeck rumour feels a bit like Saints doing the 'look, we're trying', only to be foiled by the player's desires at the last minute, a la Walcott. Hope it comes off though .... and Promes. They have got form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 Mmm plus Hughes disappeared half way through the session while the coaching staff are taking it. League managers meeting in London Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 .... and Promes. They have got form. It's best not to go for top players, we might not get them and then fans are disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 If we sign Ings we have really lost the plot. Desperate again. useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 I'm hoping we can get Welbeck in. Quite clearly best suited for us in terms of pace, strength, scores goals and can play anywhere across the front. Wonder if there is any truth in this Labofka bid? Does it tie in with the rumours of Les Reed going over to Spain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John D Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 Never really bought the wages argument. If I was in a job that required a specific level of skill and was let go because I didn't quite make the grade, I wouldn't grumble about going to the company next door who would give me slightly less responsibility for slightly less money. I was being overpaid! But players are on fixed term contracts so aren't being let go. We have legal obligation to pay them £xxx over the time of the contract. Players are happy to sit there and pick up the money or put pressure on selling club to pay % of wages if they do move. There are some players who will sacrifice some money just for game time but many are happy to pick up the pay check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 Doesn’t tell us anything we didn’t already know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 Doesn’t tell us anything we didn’t already know. Quite - Les or whoever signed him seriously lost their marbles and should have lost their job. Nothing screams disinterested owner more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 Quite - Les or whoever signed him seriously lost their marbles and should have lost their job. Nothing screams disinterested owner more than that. And the fact that he’s not interested in remedying the mistake by putting his hand in his pocket to sign another striker. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_lambden Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 Promes just scored in the Champions League for Spartak Moscow. What could have been..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 If we were about to sign anyone, you'd have heard something by now. Safe to say that we are actually done I think. Another season of Long it is then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Saint Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 Deadline day has been a bit of a flop for a couple of seasons , I fear we will be desperately hanging on to the Prem again this season ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 If that's the end of our window then I'd give us a 5/10 considering how weak we were at the start of it. As someone else has said, it's possible that our failure to shift some of our rubbish has prevented us from bringing in any more quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 A couple of positive things about this summer among all the gloom. We did our business quite early at least those players we have signed arrived early in pre-season and have been involved in training and playing friendlies that can only help in the early games of the season. We replaced Tadic with a like for like type player ( yes I realise he might turn out not to be as good as Tadic) straight away something we have been guilty of not doing the last few transfer windows. So while we might not have got all the players and cash spunked we would have liked maybe the club have learnt a couple of lessons after the last few windows. ...or is that a bit to positive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowers-sfc Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 Reed in Spain trying to get get alcacer. Due back for meeting with Hughes at 9am tomorrow. Potentially 2 fringe players out. Just passing on what I hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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