hypochondriac Posted 7 August, 2018 Share Posted 7 August, 2018 Those two wouldn't come, we couldn't afford the transfer fees and the unjustified wages they'd demand would blow our business model apart. Sent from my Pixel using TapatalkI'm guessing that's a joke. The point is we can be well coached and have great team spirit and also get in one or two standout players. We did it under poch and whilst I accept we are very unlikely to have that rare set of circumstances again, I do sense a feeling that most fans feel we could be doing a heck of a lot better than we have been with both recruitment and coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 7 August, 2018 Share Posted 7 August, 2018 How about coaching, team spirit and also getting in one or two stars like mane or alderweireld. It's not an either or thing. Mané certainly was not a star when he came. Can you not remember the clamour about what a waste of space he was?? And get real. We are a club that cannot by polished diamonds. We buy them rough cut as that is what we can afford. The value is in our polishing them and selling to bigger clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 7 August, 2018 Share Posted 7 August, 2018 Mané certainly was not a star when he came. Can you not remember the clamour about what a waste of space he was?? And get real. We are a club that cannot by polished diamonds. We buy them rough cut as that is what we can afford. The value is in our polishing them and selling to bigger clubs.Absolute cack. A couple of dribblers on here slagged mane off. The vast majority could see what a special talent he was. Wanyama was a special player when we bought him and celtics best player that had won praise from Barcelona and Toby had shown great potential as well. We can't buy mega stars but we can absolutely buy quality unlike some of our recent terrible buys that have been a complete waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 7 August, 2018 Share Posted 7 August, 2018 I'm guessing that's a joke. The point is we can be well coached and have great team spirit and also get in one or two standout players. We did it under poch and whilst I accept we are very unlikely to have that rare set of circumstances again, I do sense a feeling that most fans feel we could be doing a heck of a lot better than we have been with both recruitment and coaching.I'll accept that recruitment a d coaching have gone badly wrong in the last season or two. No excuses for the coaching. Let's hope Sparky can do it. Recruitment of the sort of targets we have is getting tougher. We used to pick up players under the radar, but they've all got agents now and plenty of greed. As soon as we show interest, they get touted round clubs with more money. And it wasn't a joke - just realistic. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 7 August, 2018 Share Posted 7 August, 2018 I'll accept that recruitment a d coaching have gone badly wrong in the last season or two. No excuses for the coaching. Let's hope Sparky can do it. Recruitment of the sort of targets we have is getting tougher. We used to pick up players under the radar, but they've all got agents now and plenty of greed. As soon as we show interest, they get touted round clubs with more money. And it wasn't a joke - just realistic. Sent from my Pixel using TapatalkI accept its tougher but its not a coincidence that our recruitment success has fallen off a cliff once the influence of our old recruitment team has disappeared. The last player you could say who has been undeniably a success is probably vvd with most other buys since then at least being debatable and many being a shocking waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 7 August, 2018 Share Posted 7 August, 2018 I accept its tougher but its not a coincidence that our recruitment success has fallen off a cliff once the influence of our old recruitment team has disappeared. The last player you could say who has been undeniably a success is probably vvd with most other buys since then at least being debatable and many being a shocking waste.Yes, as I said, recruitment has gone badly wrong. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 7 August, 2018 Share Posted 7 August, 2018 But yeah, doesn't compare to our Championship wilderness years. James, Gillet...crikey. Back when we tried giving the youngsters chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 7 August, 2018 Share Posted 7 August, 2018 Yes, as I said, recruitment has gone badly wrong. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Stuart Taylor was a great one.... but not as good as this chap Football Tweet @Football__Tweet 8m8 minutes ago Paulo Lopes. Benfica's 40-year old third choice goalkeeper. He's just retired having played 11 games in 13 seasons for the club, winning 12 trophies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 7 August, 2018 Share Posted 7 August, 2018 Yet again, people against playing Sims, Gallagher, Ward Prowse, Slattery etc. People in favour of massive signings, despite - Boufal, Ramirez, Osvaldo, Carrillo...could even add Hoedt and Gabbiadini to that list in some ways. We've spent fortunes on record strikers the last 2 january windows. Let's not keep throwing money at a problem when it's clearly not that answer. We haven't had a decent manager to form a coherent team, improve players and get them attacking since Koeman. That's the biggest problem. I'm tired of seeing players get worse or stand still. Yes you’re right Adrian. Lets play a load of youngsters and avoid spending any money at all costs. We should be building our team around these players. Gallagher was a goal machine for two seasons in the championship, hes going to rip up the premier league. ward Prowse is master at striking a free kick exactly a yard over the top corner, all he has to do is lower his aim slightly and he’ll be banging in 20 a season from free kicks alone not mentioned all the assists he’ll get from sticking he ball on Gallagher’s head. Slatterly, Sims, Valery, Rose, Jones, f*ck it lets send Vestergaard back and give Klarer a go, he looked class at centre back in the South Shields u23 Cup. I cant believe Hughes, who sees this lot every day isn’t into this already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 7 August, 2018 Share Posted 7 August, 2018 Apparently we where prepared to 18 million for RB Malcuit... http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/08/06/do-report-southampton-were-willing-to-pay-18m-for-napoli-bound-k/ I see the Mirror (yes, I know) is reporting this is back on with Malcuit snubbing Napoli for SFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disconnect Posted 7 August, 2018 Share Posted 7 August, 2018 Yes you’re right Adrian. Lets play a load of youngsters and avoid spending any money at all costs. We should be building our team around these players. Gallagher was a goal machine for two seasons in the championship, hes going to rip up the premier league. ward Prowse is master at striking a free kick exactly a yard over the top corner, all he has to do is lower his aim slightly and he’ll be banging in 20 a season from free kicks alone not mentioned all the assists he’ll get from sticking he ball on Gallagher’s head. Slatterly, Sims, Valery, Rose, Jones, f*ck it lets send Vestergaard back and give Klarer a go, he looked class at centre back in the South Shields u23 Cup. I cant believe Hughes, who sees this lot every day isn’t into this already. So true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted 7 August, 2018 Share Posted 7 August, 2018 Mané certainly was not a star when he came. Can you not remember the clamour about what a waste of space he was?? And get real. We are a club that cannot by polished diamonds. We buy them rough cut as that is what we can afford. The value is in our polishing them and selling to bigger clubs. wow so were a jewelry shop now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 7 August, 2018 Share Posted 7 August, 2018 I see the Mirror (yes, I know) is reporting this is back on with Malcuit snubbing Napoli for SFC. Perhaps something is going on with Cedric then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 7 August, 2018 Author Share Posted 7 August, 2018 Perhaps something is going on with Cedric then... I'd be curious the level of club who would want him but could also afford to pay what we would want for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 7 August, 2018 Share Posted 7 August, 2018 Malcuit appearance stats on wiki look shocking for the prices being quoted considering his already 27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 7 August, 2018 Share Posted 7 August, 2018 I see the Mirror (yes, I know) is reporting this is back on with Malcuit snubbing Napoli for SFC. Wasn’t he pictured having a medical at Napoli yesterday? Would be crazy for him to snub Napoli for us. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 7 August, 2018 Share Posted 7 August, 2018 Wasn’t he pictured having a medical at Napoli yesterday? Would be crazy for him to snub Napoli for us. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Yes, I thought it was done and dusted. Maybe The Mirror article was out of date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 7 August, 2018 Share Posted 7 August, 2018 Yes you’re right Adrian. Lets play a load of youngsters and avoid spending any money at all costs. We should be building our team around these players. Gallagher was a goal machine for two seasons in the championship, hes going to rip up the premier league. ward Prowse is master at striking a free kick exactly a yard over the top corner, all he has to do is lower his aim slightly and he’ll be banging in 20 a season from free kicks alone not mentioned all the assists he’ll get from sticking he ball on Gallagher’s head. Slatterly, Sims, Valery, Rose, Jones, f*ck it lets send Vestergaard back and give Klarer a go, he looked class at centre back in the South Shields u23 Cup. I cant believe Hughes, who sees this lot every day isn’t into this already. Amen. If the youngsters were good enough they'd play. They don't because they're not. There's too much sentiment at times. Sentiment doesn't win football matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 7 August, 2018 Share Posted 7 August, 2018 (edited) The Sun thinks that Watford have offered us £10M for JWP... https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/6962681/watford-james-ward-prowse-bid-southampton-javi-gracia/ Edit: Already posted in the JWP thread. Edited 7 August, 2018 by Saint Albert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc oli Posted 7 August, 2018 Share Posted 7 August, 2018 If a broken j-rod can potentially fetch £18m in this mental market then JWP must be worth at least £20m- no matter what his detractors think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 7 August, 2018 Share Posted 7 August, 2018 Yet again, people against playing Sims, Gallagher, Ward Prowse, Slattery etc. People in favour of massive signings, despite - Boufal, Ramirez, Osvaldo, Carrillo...could even add Hoedt and Gabbiadini to that list in some ways. We've spent fortunes on record strikers the last 2 january windows. Let's not keep throwing money at a problem when it's clearly not that answer. We haven't had a decent manager to form a coherent team, improve players and get them attacking since Koeman. That's the biggest problem. I'm tired of seeing players get worse or stand still. Mane, Pelle and Big Vic didn't get worse or stand still, they left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpin4rizeal Posted 7 August, 2018 Share Posted 7 August, 2018 Yet again, people against playing Sims, Gallagher, Ward Prowse, Slattery etc. People in favour of massive signings, despite - Boufal, Ramirez, Osvaldo, Carrillo...could even add Hoedt and Gabbiadini to that list in some ways. We've spent fortunes on record strikers the last 2 january windows. Let's not keep throwing money at a problem when it's clearly not that answer. We haven't had a decent manager to form a coherent team, improve players and get them attacking since Koeman. That's the biggest problem. I'm tired of seeing players get worse or stand still. The only really class youth team players we had since being back in the prem were lallana and shaw, most of our success with the top 8 finishes came because of signings,vvd mane pelle wantama etc. I think the youngsters who are really special get huge hype and are fast tracked into the team. Walcott bale and shaw had plenty of buzz around them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneawol Posted 7 August, 2018 Share Posted 7 August, 2018 According to Euro United , Southampton has sent a bid of € 25m to Stanislav Lobotka . This offer was refused by Celta Vigo . Indeed, given the strong competition on the issue the Galician training could ask nearly 35M € to agree to sell its Slovakian international https://le10sport.com/football/mercato/mercato-psg-394074 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 7 August, 2018 Share Posted 7 August, 2018 According to Euro United , Southampton has sent a bid of € 25m to Stanislav Lobotka . This offer was refused by Celta Vigo . Indeed, given the strong competition on the issue the Galician training could ask nearly 35M € to agree to sell its Slovakian international https://le10sport.com/football/mercato/mercato-psg-394074 Has scored zero goals in his last three season. Get him in. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 7 August, 2018 Share Posted 7 August, 2018 Amen. If the youngsters were good enough they'd play. They don't because they're not. There's too much sentiment at times. Sentiment doesn't win football matches. And then you get the wallies who claim that you won't know how good they are until they get a chance, like we can afford to give a kid 15 games to prove themselves or not. Yeah give Gallagher a go and while we're at it let's give Stephens a go in defensive midfield, he could be decent there, don't forget Hesketh, he could be the new Tadic. Then everyone can slag the club off for relying on youth to keep us up rather than investing, what a lack of ambition! I didn't know wether to laugh or cry the other day when someone on another forum posted that Gallagher should be given a run of games and posted his goal record whilst on loan compared to Harry Kanes when he was as evidence he could be good. Dear me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBenali Posted 7 August, 2018 Share Posted 7 August, 2018 According to Euro United , Southampton has sent a bid of € 25m to Stanislav Lobotka . This offer was refused by Celta Vigo . Indeed, given the strong competition on the issue the Galician training could ask nearly 35M € to agree to sell its Slovakian international https://le10sport.com/football/mercato/mercato-psg-394074 Spurs linked with him over the past few days, possibly replace Dembele. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 7 August, 2018 Share Posted 7 August, 2018 And then you get the wallies who claim that you won't know how good they are until they get a chance, like we can afford to give a kid 15 games to prove themselves or not. Yeah give Gallagher a go and while we're at it let's give Stephens a go in defensive midfield, he could be decent there, don't forget Hesketh, he could be the new Tadic. Then everyone can slag the club off for relying on youth to keep us up rather than investing, what a lack of ambition! I didn't know wether to laugh or cry the other day when someone on another forum posted that Gallagher should be given a run of games and posted his goal record whilst on loan compared to Harry Kanes when he was as evidence he could be good. Dear me. It'd be like Lowe's Dutch duo championship experiment all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 7 August, 2018 Share Posted 7 August, 2018 Has scored zero goals in his last three season. Get him in. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk The black box goals button must be f.ucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 7 August, 2018 Share Posted 7 August, 2018 According to Euro United , Southampton has sent a bid of € 25m to Stanislav Lobotka . This offer was refused by Celta Vigo . Indeed, given the strong competition on the issue the Galician training could ask nearly 35M € to agree to sell its Slovakian international https://le10sport.com/football/mercato/mercato-psg-394074The missing piece of the jigsaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 7 August, 2018 Author Share Posted 7 August, 2018 According to Euro United , Southampton has sent a bid of € 25m to Stanislav Lobotka . This offer was refused by Celta Vigo . Indeed, given the strong competition on the issue the Galician training could ask nearly 35M € to agree to sell its Slovakian international https://le10sport.com/football/mercato/mercato-psg-394074 Where the hell has that money come from?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 7 August, 2018 Share Posted 7 August, 2018 Has scored zero goals in his last three season. Get him in. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 6 goals in 219 appearances. The Slovakian James Ward-Prowse. Is he capable of narrowly missing from every free kick he takes I wonder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 7 August, 2018 Share Posted 7 August, 2018 According to Euro United , Southampton has sent a bid of € 25m to Stanislav Lobotka . This offer was refused by Celta Vigo . Indeed, given the strong competition on the issue the Galician training could ask nearly 35M € to agree to sell its Slovakian international https://le10sport.com/football/mercato/mercato-psg-394074 At one time our fabled scouting might have picked him up whilst he was a £10m player. The missing piece of the jigsaw. Of the MF jigsaw perhaps, but we also have pieces missing at RB and early indications are that the defensive pieces don't fit together either. Not to mention the goalscoring piece which has fallen out of the box completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 7 August, 2018 Share Posted 7 August, 2018 6 goals in 219 appearances. The Slovakian James Ward-Prowse. Is he capable of narrowly missing from every free kick he takes I wonder? Is a deep-lying playmaker - what we thought we were getting with Clasie, a poor man's Pirlo or an upmarket Safri. Absent that we have PEH and his sideways passing to look forward to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpin4rizeal Posted 7 August, 2018 Share Posted 7 August, 2018 Why are we again looking to strengthen in places thstvis not the priority? Mf probably our strongest area with romeau lemina, hojbjerg Armstrong ward profuse all capable of playing there. Craeative player, striker or cb please ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 7 August, 2018 Share Posted 7 August, 2018 Why are we again looking to strengthen in places thstvis not the priority? Mf probably our strongest area with romeau lemina, hojbjerg Armstrong ward profuse all capable of playing there. Craeative player, striker or cb please ! Romeu isn’t very good so strengthening there is a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 7 August, 2018 Share Posted 7 August, 2018 Romeu isn’t very good so strengthening there is a good idea. Poor reflection on things that we, and possibly the club, are still discussing this with only two days before the window closes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 7 August, 2018 Share Posted 7 August, 2018 Welbeck due to be at Staplewood tommorow. [emoji15] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 7 August, 2018 Share Posted 7 August, 2018 Welbeck due to be at Staplewood tommorow. [emoji15] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Also just read that from probably the same Arsenal twitter account that doesn't seem to have any credentials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 7 August, 2018 Share Posted 7 August, 2018 Also just read that from probably the same Arsenal twitter account that doesn't seem to have any credentials. 2 different sources....one that is verified to be correct in the past. Links to Arsenal. The other appears to have a good track record also according to others. We will see. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 7 August, 2018 Share Posted 7 August, 2018 Are you sure you didn't just see this appear on the #SaintsFC hashtag like 5 minutes before you posted it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 7 August, 2018 Share Posted 7 August, 2018 Are you sure you didn't just see this appear on the #SaintsFC hashtag like 5 minutes before you posted it? Is he suggesting all three coming to Saints ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 7 August, 2018 Share Posted 7 August, 2018 Are you sure you didn't just see this appear on the #SaintsFC hashtag like 5 minutes before you posted it? saint lard a walter mitty itker? Nah never Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 7 August, 2018 Share Posted 7 August, 2018 Is he suggesting all three coming to Saints ? I think he's saying 3 out at Arsenal. Perez is off to West Ham, Campbell must be off on another of his year long loans somewhere and maybe Welbeck is due at Staplewood. Here's hoping... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 7 August, 2018 Share Posted 7 August, 2018 Are you sure you didn't just see this appear on the #SaintsFC hashtag like 5 minutes before you posted it? If you read the whole thread,follow the links back to the originators. Those have more credibility than the example you have posted. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 7 August, 2018 Share Posted 7 August, 2018 I think he's saying 3 out at Arsenal. Perez is off to West Ham' date=' Campbell must be off on another of his year long loans somewhere and maybe Welbeck is due at Staplewood. Here's hoping...[/quote'] I ‘d be happy with Welbeck. I don’t think that everyone will be happy with him, though. I also think that one of Gallagher, Long, Austin and Gabbiadini would be on their way if Welbeck signs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 Wellbeck not my first choice but at least he is a centre forward to bring something new, some competition. If we get through this window without signing one it would be insanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 I'd be pleased with Welbeck. Just can't see it happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 I don’t see it happening in a million years but i’d be over the ****ing moon if Danny Welbeck was wearing a Saints shirt at the end of this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 I don’t see it happening in a million years but i’d be over the ****ing moon if Danny Welbeck was wearing a Saints shirt at the end of this week. This. He needs a fresh start and I think Saints could be a good fit for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 8 August, 2018 Share Posted 8 August, 2018 He’s not here yet but once he does you will know first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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