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Black Sea Saint

Black Sea Saint

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This on the day that we bring in a central midfielder...

 

 

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Signings will be CB, Winger/Striker and GK.

 

Leavings will be Winger, GK and AM

 

Dope.

 

 

 

 

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Miltonaggro

Miltonaggro

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I remember a game against Norwich in the early 90s when him and Le Tissier were going for a ball and ending up in a good natured roll around on the pitch with them both getting up laughing. the Milton end immediately started singing "brians got a boner" where he responded in exactly the same way, seemed like a top bloke.

 

Simpler more innocent times, Turkish.

Greenridge

Greenridge

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Correct me if I'm wrong. But there has been no official mention of Les Reed anywhere on the official site since the end of the Season.

 

are we 100% sure he is still involved?

 

He's on the naughty step. It's just a question of where that is.

tajjuk

tajjuk

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Elyounoussi looks an exciting signing, 1 in 3 goal record from his career as a wide forward is good and the European performances are promising as it's always good to see players from lesser leagues perform well against bigger clubs. Worked out well for the VVD and Wanyama.

waylander

waylander

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SSN

 

BREAKING NEWS

 

Southampton have agreed a fee with Basel for young winger Mohamed Elyounoussi, according to Sky sources.

 

Fee believed to be in the region of £16m.

 

The 23-year-old Norwegian international can operate as a forward or as a winger.

Matthew Le God

Matthew Le God

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Born in Morrocco, you are a mess.

 

When did I say he wasn't born in Morocco? :rolleyes: :? Plus in any case, he was not born in the same country as Boufal.

 

My point was it is daft to make sweeping generalisations on character traits based on nationality.

Cabbage_Face

Cabbage_Face

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When did I say he wasn't born in Morocco? :rolleyes: :? Plus in any case, he was not born in the same country as Boufal.

 

My point was it is daft to make sweeping generalisations on character traits based on nationality.

 

Mess

Chez

Chez

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The player we should have signed instead of Armstrong, imo.

 

Mooy certainly looked very good in the first couple of world cup games. Is it economically viable for a mid level prem side such as us to buy a `wanted' player from another mid level premiership side? A £20m buy back clause for Man City suggests that they'd expect top dollar before allowing him to leave.

Toon Saint

Toon Saint

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Pete O'Rourke‏ @SportsPeteO 3m3 minutes agoMore

 

 

Everton and Southampton have bid for Borussia Monchengladbach's Danish defender Jannik Vestergaard. #EFC #saintsfc #borussia

 

 

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6 foot 6 centre back

 

 

Could be our first choice CB target with Gibson as back-up, considering we haven’t bid for the latter yet. If Everton pip us to this one then at least we should be able to go back in for Gibson unchallenged.

 

 

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Saint86

Saint86

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Jeez he fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down...

 

 

 

Still if we are up against Everton we might as well forget it now...

 

Perfect for the back line then!

shurlock

shurlock

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Surely Fraser Forster is leaving then

 

Who is going to sign him on his wages? Unless forsters taking a pay cut in return for a better chance of first team football.

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Matthew Le God

Matthew Le God

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Who is going to sign him on his wages? Unless forsters taking a pay cut in return for first team football.

 

Saints could offer to subsidise the gap in wages. That way he wouldn't lose out financially from his current deal until 2022.

shurlock

shurlock

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Saints could offer to subsidise the gap in wages. That way he wouldn't lose out financially from his current deal until 2022.

 

Sounds complicated and expensive.

Matthew Le God

Matthew Le God

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Sounds complicated and expensive.

 

Not particularly complicated and financially it may be the best way to get rid of him. His wages will probably put a lot of clubs off even if they think he is of the quality they need.

shurlock

shurlock

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Not particularly complicated and financially it may be the best way to get rid of him. His wages will probably put a lot of clubs off even if they think he is of the quality they need.

 

It’s complicated because it’s a four year arrangement. What are we going to do: sort out multiple loans? No one team will take him for that long.

Matthew Le God

Matthew Le God

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It’s complicated because it’s a four year arrangement. What are we going to do: sort out multiple loans? No one team will take him for that long.

 

I made no mention of loans. Transfer him and subsidise his wages until 2022. That would make him a more attractive proposition compared to having to match or get close to his current wages.

shurlock

shurlock

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I made no mention of loans. Transfer him and subsidise his wages until 2022. That would make him a more attractive proposition compared to having to match or get close to his current wages.

 

Out of curiousity, are there many examples of this type of arrangement in England?

John B

John B

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Out of curiousity, are there many examples of this type of arrangement in England?

 

I thought it was quite common The clubs can either share the players wages or the parent club can pay the wages entirely

Matthew Le God

Matthew Le God

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Out of curiousity, are there many examples of this type of arrangement in England?

 

It happens a reasonable amount, which is why it is included in FM. SI have contacts at a lot of clubs and agents to get contracts accurate and matching real life. They have a close relationships with Watford, AFC Wimbledon and others. The game is mocked by some on here, but it is built to be a simulation of the real sport and is respected within the sport which is why many clubs use its database for scouting.

shurlock

shurlock

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It happens a reasonable amount, which is why it is included in FM. SI have contacts at a lot of clubs and agents to get contracts accurate and matching real life. They have a close relationships with Watford, AFC Wimbledon and others. The game is mocked by some on here, but it is built to be a simulation of the real sport and is respected within the sport which is why many clubs use its database for scouting.

 

I asked for actual examples, not an impassioned defense of FM :lol:

Cabbage_Face

Cabbage_Face

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It happens a reasonable amount, which is why it is included in FM. SI have contacts at a lot of clubs and agents to get contracts accurate and matching real life. They have a close relationships with Watford, AFC Wimbledon and others. The game is mocked by some on here, but it is built to be a simulation of the real sport and is respected within the sport which is why many clubs use its database for scouting.

 

Maxim Tsigalko Agrees

saint77

saint77

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Ok, for a start Man United are subsidising Wayne Rooney's wages at Everton.

 

And now Man u and Everton will be subsidising his wages at Washington D.C for the next 2 years

tajjuk

tajjuk

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Liverpool paid a lot of Andy Carrol's wages at West Ham I believe, happens more than you think.

 

Also the Rooney to DC United transfer rumours were talking about BOTH Utd and Everton subsidising his wages.

 

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Things seem to be speeding up transfer wise.

 

Not sure on the Gunn transfer, surely only worth it if we think he is going to be first choice (and same for him) and we have just given McCarthy a new deal, plus still have Forster on high wages.

shurlock

shurlock

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Ok, for a start Man United are subsidising Wayne Rooney's wages at Everton.

 

So that’s it? Carroll as well. Plenty of exceptional circumstances around the Rooney deal that make it hard to generalise.

Saint Garrett

Saint Garrett

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So that’s it? Carroll as well. Plenty of exceptional circumstances around the Rooney deal that make it hard to generalise.

 

Think it's pretty common tbh.

 

Carroll when he went to West Ham, I remember Leeds were subsidising loads of players after they'd left when they were in the **** financially, Smith, Viduka, Keane etc.

 

I'd expect any player on large wages who moves to a club who can't afford him, is pretty likely to be paying his wages.

Matthew Le God

Matthew Le God

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So that’s it? Carroll as well.

 

There are quite a lot of examples if you google it, but generally these contractual details aren't going to reach the media or public. That is why I mentioned subsidising wages being a part of FM, because I know for a fact that SI have talked to numerous people in the sport, club & agents about such things.

Convict Colony

Convict Colony

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There are quite a lot of examples if you google it, but generally these contractual details aren't going to reach the media or public. That is why I mentioned subsidising wages being a part of FM, because I know for a fact that SI have talked to numerous people in the sport, club & agents about such things.

 

think joe hart at Torino and West Ham was one as well

Ken Tone

Ken Tone

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sam lee who covers man city has alluded we are favourites to sign Gunn for 15 million and city would have a buy back clause

 

Dont like the sound of a buy back clause. Makes it a bit like a loan with City in a win win situation. If he fails they got a good price. If he is a star they get him back for relative peanuts.

 

Anyway, it seems a bit odd for us to be getting a £15 million keeper now that McCarthy has signed a new contract.

John D

John D

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So that’s it? Carroll as well. Plenty of exceptional circumstances around the Rooney deal that make it hard to generalise.

 

Been going on for years and pretty common. In a previous role I had access to the accounts of 10 plus top flight teams and it was happening with all of them.

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