Black Sea Saint Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 This on the day that we bring in a central midfielder... . Signings will be CB, Winger/Striker and GK. Leavings will be Winger, GK and AM Dope. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 I remember a game against Norwich in the early 90s when him and Le Tissier were going for a ball and ending up in a good natured roll around on the pitch with them both getting up laughing. the Milton end immediately started singing "brians got a boner" where he responded in exactly the same way, seemed like a top bloke. Simpler more innocent times, Turkish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 Correct me if I'm wrong. But there has been no official mention of Les Reed anywhere on the official site since the end of the Season. are we 100% sure he is still involved? He's on the naughty step. It's just a question of where that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 Elyounoussi looks an exciting signing, 1 in 3 goal record from his career as a wide forward is good and the European performances are promising as it's always good to see players from lesser leagues perform well against bigger clubs. Worked out well for the VVD and Wanyama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 SSN BREAKING NEWS Southampton have agreed a fee with Basel for young winger Mohamed Elyounoussi, according to Sky sources. Fee believed to be in the region of £16m. The 23-year-old Norwegian international can operate as a forward or as a winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 Mooy http://www.espn.co.uk/football/soccer-transfers/story/3545806/manchester-city-may-activate-aaron-mooys-20m-buy-back-clause-sources Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 27 June, 2018 Author Share Posted 27 June, 2018 Mooy http://www.espn.co.uk/football/soccer-transfers/story/3545806/manchester-city-may-activate-aaron-mooys-20m-buy-back-clause-sources Generic link, I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 (edited) Pete O'Rourke @SportsPeteO 3m3 minutes agoMore Everton and Southampton have bid for Borussia Monchengladbach's Danish defender Jannik Vestergaard. #EFC #saintsfc #borussia ............ 6 foot 6 centre back Edited 27 June, 2018 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 Mooy http://www.espn.co.uk/football/soccer-transfers/story/3545806/manchester-city-may-activate-aaron-mooys-20m-buy-back-clause-sources The player we should have signed instead of Armstrong, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 Pete O'Rourke @SportsPeteO 3m3 minutes agoMore Everton and Southampton have bid for Borussia Monchengladbach's Danish defender Jannik Vestergaard. #EFC #saintsfc #borussia ............ 6 foot 7 centre back Jeez he fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down... Still if we are up against Everton we might as well forget it now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 He looks like JImmy Bullard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del boy Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soccer/soccer-news/sligo-rovers-teenager-seamus-keogh-12802222 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 Why are you making sweeping generalisations? (plus he is a Norwegian international ) Born in Morrocco, you are a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 Born in Morrocco, you are a mess. When did I say he wasn't born in Morocco? Plus in any case, he was not born in the same country as Boufal. My point was it is daft to make sweeping generalisations on character traits based on nationality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 When did I say he wasn't born in Morocco? Plus in any case, he was not born in the same country as Boufal. My point was it is daft to make sweeping generalisations on character traits based on nationality. Mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 The player we should have signed instead of Armstrong, imo. Mooy certainly looked very good in the first couple of world cup games. Is it economically viable for a mid level prem side such as us to buy a `wanted' player from another mid level premiership side? A £20m buy back clause for Man City suggests that they'd expect top dollar before allowing him to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 Pete O'Rourke @SportsPeteO 3m3 minutes agoMore Everton and Southampton have bid for Borussia Monchengladbach's Danish defender Jannik Vestergaard. #EFC #saintsfc #borussia ............ 6 foot 6 centre back Could be our first choice CB target with Gibson as back-up, considering we haven’t bid for the latter yet. If Everton pip us to this one then at least we should be able to go back in for Gibson unchallenged. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 We’ve been linked to this freak before, haven’t we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 Jeez he fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down... Still if we are up against Everton we might as well forget it now... Perfect for the back line then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 Doesn’t start for the national side, does he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 Zapata https://www.calciomercato.com/en/news/report-southampton-and-newcastle-target-wanted-in-china-76529 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 The way he plays, he reminds me a bit of VVd, obviously not as good but similar type of player. Looks dominant and exactly what we need, get him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 27 June, 2018 Author Share Posted 27 June, 2018 K,Billy hinted at it : http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5892039/Southampton-chasing-15m-deal-Manchester-City-keeper-Angus-Gunn.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 Surely Fraser Forster is leaving then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 sam lee who covers man city has alluded we are favourites to sign Gunn for 15 million and city would have a buy back clause Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 (edited) Surely Fraser Forster is leaving then Who is going to sign him on his wages? Unless forsters taking a pay cut in return for a better chance of first team football. Edited 27 June, 2018 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 Who is going to sign him on his wages? Unless forsters taking a pay cut in return for first team football. Saints could offer to subsidise the gap in wages. That way he wouldn't lose out financially from his current deal until 2022. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 Saints could offer to subsidise the gap in wages. That way he wouldn't lose out financially from his current deal until 2022. Sounds complicated and expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 Sounds complicated and expensive. Not particularly complicated and financially it may be the best way to get rid of him. His wages will probably put a lot of clubs off even if they think he is of the quality they need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBizzier69 Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 We'd easily sort the wage difference required to shift FF on if they went to crowdfunding... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 Not particularly complicated and financially it may be the best way to get rid of him. His wages will probably put a lot of clubs off even if they think he is of the quality they need. It’s complicated because it’s a four year arrangement. What are we going to do: sort out multiple loans? No one team will take him for that long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 It’s complicated because it’s a four year arrangement. What are we going to do: sort out multiple loans? No one team will take him for that long. I made no mention of loans. Transfer him and subsidise his wages until 2022. That would make him a more attractive proposition compared to having to match or get close to his current wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 I made no mention of loans. Transfer him and subsidise his wages until 2022. That would make him a more attractive proposition compared to having to match or get close to his current wages. Out of curiousity, are there many examples of this type of arrangement in England? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 I can't see Eastleigh stumping up for Forster, about his level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 Out of curiousity, are there many examples of this type of arrangement in England? I thought it was quite common The clubs can either share the players wages or the parent club can pay the wages entirely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 Out of curiousity, are there many examples of this type of arrangement in England? It happens a reasonable amount, which is why it is included in FM. SI have contacts at a lot of clubs and agents to get contracts accurate and matching real life. They have a close relationships with Watford, AFC Wimbledon and others. The game is mocked by some on here, but it is built to be a simulation of the real sport and is respected within the sport which is why many clubs use its database for scouting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 It happens a reasonable amount, which is why it is included in FM. SI have contacts at a lot of clubs and agents to get contracts accurate and matching real life. They have a close relationships with Watford, AFC Wimbledon and others. The game is mocked by some on here, but it is built to be a simulation of the real sport and is respected within the sport which is why many clubs use its database for scouting. I asked for actual examples, not an impassioned defense of FM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 I asked for actual examples, not an impassioned defense of FM Ok, for a start Man United are subsidising Wayne Rooney's wages at Everton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 It happens a reasonable amount, which is why it is included in FM. SI have contacts at a lot of clubs and agents to get contracts accurate and matching real life. They have a close relationships with Watford, AFC Wimbledon and others. The game is mocked by some on here, but it is built to be a simulation of the real sport and is respected within the sport which is why many clubs use its database for scouting. Maxim Tsigalko Agrees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 Ok, for a start Man United are subsidising Wayne Rooney's wages at Everton. And now Man u and Everton will be subsidising his wages at Washington D.C for the next 2 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 Liverpool paid a lot of Andy Carrol's wages at West Ham I believe, happens more than you think. Also the Rooney to DC United transfer rumours were talking about BOTH Utd and Everton subsidising his wages. --------------------------------- Things seem to be speeding up transfer wise. Not sure on the Gunn transfer, surely only worth it if we think he is going to be first choice (and same for him) and we have just given McCarthy a new deal, plus still have Forster on high wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 Ok, for a start Man United are subsidising Wayne Rooney's wages at Everton. So that’s it? Carroll as well. Plenty of exceptional circumstances around the Rooney deal that make it hard to generalise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 So that’s it? Carroll as well. Plenty of exceptional circumstances around the Rooney deal that make it hard to generalise. Think it's pretty common tbh. Carroll when he went to West Ham, I remember Leeds were subsidising loads of players after they'd left when they were in the **** financially, Smith, Viduka, Keane etc. I'd expect any player on large wages who moves to a club who can't afford him, is pretty likely to be paying his wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 So that’s it? Carroll as well. There are quite a lot of examples if you google it, but generally these contractual details aren't going to reach the media or public. That is why I mentioned subsidising wages being a part of FM, because I know for a fact that SI have talked to numerous people in the sport, club & agents about such things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 There are quite a lot of examples if you google it, but generally these contractual details aren't going to reach the media or public. That is why I mentioned subsidising wages being a part of FM, because I know for a fact that SI have talked to numerous people in the sport, club & agents about such things. think joe hart at Torino and West Ham was one as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 think joe hart at Torino and West Ham was one as well Nope, because they were loans. I'm talking about subsidising players who have been transferred, not loaned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 Didn't Chelsea pay some of Le Saux's wages when he came to us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 sam lee who covers man city has alluded we are favourites to sign Gunn for 15 million and city would have a buy back clause Dont like the sound of a buy back clause. Makes it a bit like a loan with City in a win win situation. If he fails they got a good price. If he is a star they get him back for relative peanuts. Anyway, it seems a bit odd for us to be getting a £15 million keeper now that McCarthy has signed a new contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John D Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 So that’s it? Carroll as well. Plenty of exceptional circumstances around the Rooney deal that make it hard to generalise. Been going on for years and pretty common. In a previous role I had access to the accounts of 10 plus top flight teams and it was happening with all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 27 June, 2018 Share Posted 27 June, 2018 Heard from an informant that we will sign a winger currently still playing at World Cup. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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