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Dusic

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Assuming Bednarek keeps progressing at the same rate and Hoedt returns to his Lazio form, then yes. At least more so than adding a new CB and still having inadequate protection from midfield. And certainly far better than adding Schär who wouldn't improve us in any way.
With respect, this (IMO), is an absolute mess of a post.

 

What rate has Bednarek progressed at in about 5 games? He is totally unproven.

 

What was Hoedt's Lazio level (he was a third CB for them) and why were they happy to get him go?

 

Whats the relevance of Schar?

 

Our previous spines were lightyears better than this will ever be.

 

Quite simply, if we don't sign better players throught the spine then we will struggle again because what we have is not a good PL spine, its a bottom 6 spine.

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With respect, this (IMO), is an absolute mess of a post.

 

What rate has Bednarek progressed at in about 5 games? He is totally unproven.

 

What was Hoedt's Lazio level (he was a third CB for them) and why were they happy to get him go?

 

Whats the relevance of Schar?

 

Our previous spines were lightyears better than this will ever be.

 

Quite simply, if we don't sign better players throught the spine then we will struggle again because what we have is not a good PL spine, its a bottom 6 spine.

 

+1 ...totally agree - its where we need to be strong, not adequate

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With respect, this (IMO), is an absolute mess of a post.

 

What rate has Bednarek progressed at in about 5 games? He is totally unproven.

 

What was Hoedt's Lazio level (he was a third CB for them) and why were they happy to get him go?

 

Whats the relevance of Schar?

 

Our previous spines were lightyears better than this will ever be.

 

Quite simply, if we don't sign better players throught the spine then we will struggle again because what we have is not a good PL spine, its a bottom 6 spine.

harsh but fair post. Bednarek did OK, but he was hidden in a back three and HOedt has to improve a lot. He made far too many mistakes. The spine of the side WAS weak and needs addressing. Not sure there will be much movement though.
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harsh but fair post. Bednarek did OK, but he was hidden in a back three and HOedt has to improve a lot. He made far too many mistakes. The spine of the side WAS weak and needs addressing. Not sure there will be much movement though.

If there isn’t = relegation battle. If Hughes wants a better CH and a leader, he may have to do what Puel and Pellegrino didn’t have the guts to do, but Ronald did, and put pressure on the board via the media

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SFC don't do excitement.

 

1) Financial ambition

2) Try to be smart asses

3) push fans further and further away

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

10) Football ambitions

 

You missed a few out:.

 

4)Les is relaxed about the situation.

5) Les and Ross still to be complete their review of last season

6)Before they start 5) they have to agree on Rich Tea or Custard Creams.

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You missed a few out:.

 

4)Les is relaxed about the situation.

5) Les and Ross still to be complete their review of last season

6)Before they start 5) they have to agree on Rich Tea or Custard Creams.

 

The 5 pledges ?

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Agreed, Armstrong is bang average.

 

"Armstrong failed to make a big impact at Celtic Park last season, only starting 15 league games for the club." More of a Hooiveld type signing than a van Dijk one. Let's hope there is no truth to the story because it looks like the downgrading in he quality of the squad is set to continue if we are looking to bring in players as mediocre as Armstrong.

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"Armstrong failed to make a big impact at Celtic Park last season, only starting 15 league games for the club." More of a Hooiveld type signing than a van Dijk one. Let's hope there is no truth to the story because it looks like the downgrading in he quality of the squad is set to continue if we are looking to bring in players as mediocre as Armstrong.

 

When his name was first linked with us he seemed highly rated, and certainly appeared to have a decent shot on him from distance. Strange how his stock has fallen.

 

Pity Rogic signed a new deal there, although in all likelihood our "interest" was merely a leak by his agent as a negotiating tactic coming up to the new deal.

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@MirrorAnderson:

 

Leicester and Everton are slugging it out for Norwich’s £25million-rated James Maddison. Fulham also keen.

 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/leicester-everton-eyeing-james-maddison-12676154

 

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We have been linked before but obvious won't be in at those sort of fees.

 

Also says Fulham want Joe Bryan from Bristol City, which would surely have an impact on any move for Tiggs, unless they want both.

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You missed a few out:.

 

4)Les is relaxed about the situation.

5) Les and Ross still to be complete their review of last season

6)Before they start 5) they have to agree on Rich Tea or Custard Creams.

 

I laughed [emoji23]

 

 

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@MirrorAnderson:

 

Leicester and Everton are slugging it out for Norwich’s £25million-rated James Maddison. Fulham also keen.

 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/leicester-everton-eyeing-james-maddison-12676154

 

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We have been linked before but obvious won't be in at those sort of fees.

 

Also says Fulham want Joe Bryan from Bristol City, which would surely have an impact on any move for Tiggs, unless they want both.

 

Maddisons started the season well, but tailed off in the end to no more than an average Championship player.

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Just to clarify the current state of transfers across the Premier League:

Arsenal: 1 in; 3 out

Bompey: 8 out

BHA: 3 in; 4 out

Burnley: 5 out

Palace: 1 in

Fulham: 1 out

Huddersfield: 2 in; 7 out

Leicester: 2 in; 2 out

Liverpool: 2 in*; 2 out

Man City: 2 out

Utd: 1 in; 2 out

Newcastle: 1 in

Saints: 7 out

Spurs: 1 out

Watford: 1 in; 1 out

West Ham: 1 in; 2 out

Wolves: 2 in; 14 out

 

*Naby Keita was signed last year!

 

The World Cup starts on Thursday, some of our targets are likely to be playing in the tournament. It appears that most clubs are holding off until July before making any significant signings. We clearly have some irons in the fire. Patience is needed.

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Just to clarify the current state of transfers across the Premier League:

Arsenal: 1 in; 3 out

Bompey: 8 out

BHA: 3 in; 4 out

Burnley: 5 out

Palace: 1 in

Fulham: 1 out

Huddersfield: 2 in; 7 out

Leicester: 2 in; 2 out

Liverpool: 2 in*; 2 out

Man City: 2 out

Utd: 1 in; 2 out

Newcastle: 1 in

Saints: 7 out

Spurs: 1 out

Watford: 1 in; 1 out

West Ham: 1 in; 2 out

Wolves: 2 in; 14 out

 

*Naby Keita was signed last year!

 

The World Cup starts on Thursday, some of our targets are likely to be playing in the tournament. It appears that most clubs are holding off until July before making any significant signings. We clearly have some irons in the fire. Patience is needed.

 

I fully agree with this. However a cryptic clue from an ITK would be quite nice:lol:

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Difference is, that we need some quality and have done for ages - you'd have liked to think that we would have acted early to create a bit of a buzz after a dreadful 2 seasons of dross football. It's not like we already have a good squad and we need 1 or 2 to improve us, we need 2/3 just to keep us in the league next year.

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Difference is, that we need some quality and have done for ages - you'd have liked to think that we would have acted early to create a bit of a buzz after a dreadful 2 seasons of dross football. It's not like we already have a good squad and we need 1 or 2 to improve us, we need 2/3 just to keep us in the league next year.

 

Agree we need to upgrade, but 2/3 will need to be shipped out and perhaps there is no interest in any surplus to our requirements.

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Difference is, that we need some quality and have done for ages - you'd have liked to think that we would have acted early to create a bit of a buzz after a dreadful 2 seasons of dross football. It's not like we already have a good squad and we need 1 or 2 to improve us, we need 2/3 just to keep us in the league next year.

 

I don't really understand why you are expecting quality players to come to SFC just a mid table PL team

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I don't really understand why you are expecting quality players to come to SFC just a mid table PL team

 

We signed.... Bertrand, VvD, Alderweired, Mane, Cedric, Lemina, Tadic, Lovren, Clyne, wanyama as a mid table PL side!

 

Unless you are suggesting they were/are not quality?

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We signed.... Bertrand, VvD, Alderweired, Mane, Cedric, Lemina, Tadic, Lovren, Clyne, wanyama as a mid table PL side!

 

Unless you are suggesting they were/are not quality?

 

But that was when City, United,Chelsea,Liverpool and probably Arsenal and Tottenham didn't feel the need to have 2 complete sides, both better than ours. Playing for the likes of Saints and Swansea was still considered better than having the occasional City run out in the League Cup.

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We signed.... Bertrand, VvD, Alderweired, Mane, Cedric, Lemina, Tadic, Lovren, Clyne, wanyama as a mid table PL side!

 

Unless you are suggesting they were/are not quality?

 

You did not answer the question

 

So why would quality players want to come to SFC now?

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We signed.... Bertrand, VvD, Alderweired, Mane, Cedric, Lemina, Tadic, Lovren, Clyne, wanyama as a mid table PL side!

 

Unless you are suggesting they were/are not quality?

A mid table club making noises about having realistic European asperations.

 

The secret's out now - we're just happy to survive. That surely makes us a far less attractive proposition.

 

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The secret's out now - we're just happy to survive. That surely makes us a far less attractive proposition.

 

A delusion solely held by the fans. Just because that’s what we achieved last year, it doesn’t mean that’s our target.

 

This summers transfer window will be the true indicator of our ambitions.

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Premier League football allowing for them to put themselves on show for an even bigger move, nice area to live and a club with among the largest wage budgets in world football.

 

How do you know what SFC's wage budget is you may know what the wage bill was but with out European and PL money the club has probably a lower wage budget.

 

Just cannot see what advantages SFC have for quality players

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Just to clarify the current state of transfers across the Premier League:

Arsenal: 1 in; 3 out

Bompey: 8 out

BHA: 3 in; 4 out

Burnley: 5 out

Palace: 1 in

Fulham: 1 out

Huddersfield: 2 in; 7 out

Leicester: 2 in; 2 out

Liverpool: 2 in*; 2 out

Man City: 2 out

Utd: 1 in; 2 out

Newcastle: 1 in

Saints: 7 out

Spurs: 1 out

Watford: 1 in; 1 out

West Ham: 1 in; 2 out

Wolves: 2 in; 14 out

 

Can't be arsed to check the rest, but Newcastle have released 3 first teamers (Gamez, Haidara and Good) and 18 u23s. Arsenal have released 9, Saints have released 10. Suggests the accuracy of the rest of this table (at least the "out" section) is questionable at best.

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The World Cup starts on Thursday, some of our targets are likely to be playing in the tournament. It appears that most clubs are holding off until July before making any significant signings. We clearly have some irons in the fire. Patience is needed.

Rather difficult, considering the last transfer window where all that came in was the clown's donkey.

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I am clinging on to the hope that Hughes would not have signed up for the job unless he had assurances he could sign some decent upgrades.

 

Hughes does not come across as the type who will take a job just for the sake of it and accept no means of squad improvement.

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I am clinging on to the hope that Hughes would not have signed up for the job unless he had assurances he could sign some decent upgrades.

 

Hughes does not come across as the type who will take a job just for the sake of it and accept no means of squad improvement.

 

That's my hope too.

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I am clinging on to the hope that Hughes would not have signed up for the job unless he had assurances he could sign some decent upgrades.

 

Hughes does not come across as the type who will take a job just for the sake of it and accept no means of squad improvement.

 

That's my hope too.

 

Les & Ross probably had multi-screen YouTube scout videos of Tierney / Shaw / Sessegnon / Ziyech / de Ligt / Sigurdsson up on screen to trick him into thinking that they won't mysteriously miss out on their targets on deadline day again :)

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Can't be arsed to check the rest, but Newcastle have released 3 first teamers (Gamez, Haidara and Good) and 18 u23s. Arsenal have released 9, Saints have released 10. Suggests the accuracy of the rest of this table (at least the "out" section) is questionable at best.

 

Only going by the Premier League site. My point is that there has been very few signings. A few of them were players already on loan or signed last year. You also need to ignore the Top four anyway, their business is normally done early and at prices that’s e wouldn’t compete with. If we get to the later part of July with no rumours, no signings etc and the likes of Everton,Burnley and Palace are improving their squads then I might start to worry

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I am clinging on to the hope that Hughes would not have signed up for the job unless he had assurances he could sign some decent upgrades.

 

Hughes does not come across as the type who will take a job just for the sake of it and accept no means of squad improvement.

 

Really? the guy wanted a job and no one else was offering him one. Most of these managers are like Teflon if it goes bad Hughes will go (still get paid) and someone else will be desperate enough, in the second half of the season, to give him another job so I doubt he was to bothered other than what his wages and pay off will be.

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