Saint Garrett Posted 8 May, 2018 Posted 8 May, 2018 For us: Last min pen vs West Ham (although probably a pen?) Against: Watford handball goal Marcus Alonso sending off Everton 7 mins injury time + Redmond "foul" Does it even out throughout the season? Are we right to feel hard done by?
Matthew Le God Posted 8 May, 2018 Posted 8 May, 2018 Does it even out throughout the season? No and there is no reason why it should.
scotty Posted 8 May, 2018 Posted 8 May, 2018 When ian wright said of the du couré handball that saints would be especially hard done by if we should happen to get relegated by two points, I remember thinking "thats what's going to happen."
Micky Posted 8 May, 2018 Posted 8 May, 2018 I have to admit, I've been thinking much the same myself over the last couple of weeks. But as much as I think we should be owed a large slice of luck, there's also the old adage that you make your own luck. I do feel that certain situations have definitely cost us this season, but realistically, if we go down it's because we have been pretty dire for most of the season. All of that said - I wouldn't pass up a rather large slice of luck tonight if it were to come our way.
Saint Garrett Posted 8 May, 2018 Author Posted 8 May, 2018 It's certainly due, but agree we've not helped ourselves this season...! Those few points would come in very handy right now though.
benjii Posted 8 May, 2018 Posted 8 May, 2018 We were lucky to play Palace away and WBA away when we did. That said, the Watford decision was a bad one.
Micky Posted 8 May, 2018 Posted 8 May, 2018 It's certainly due, but agree we've not helped ourselves this season...! Those few points would come in very handy right now though. Those few points would keep us up, I'm pretty sure about that. But there's no point beefing about it now. Time to go out and do everything to win 2 games, whatever. Do that and none of this will matter.
Lighthouse Posted 8 May, 2018 Posted 8 May, 2018 We were lucky to play Palace away and WBA away when we did. That said, the Watford decision was a bad one. Not to mention Everton twice when they were managed by Unsworth or had nothing to play for. Spurs were without Eriksson when they came to St Mary’s. United, Arsenal and Chelsea were all well below standard in both games against us. For the Watford goal we deserve no sympathy. We were 2-0 and should have had it in the bag easily but threw it away. We sat back, invited pressure, let them score, didn’t pose a threat ourselves and at the end didn’t stop the cross coming and left Doucouré very badly marked. The fact that the final touch game off his hand is just a very small factor in a game we should have won comfortably.
Batman Posted 8 May, 2018 Posted 8 May, 2018 We are lucky the Swansea game is tonight as I’m sure they were bang on form when we should have played them
Pilchards Posted 8 May, 2018 Posted 8 May, 2018 Teams that get relegated are due no luck as it’s fate the reason why they are going down. We are getting our fair share of bad luck because the gods say we don’t deserve to stay in the premiership anymore.
benjii Posted 8 May, 2018 Posted 8 May, 2018 Teams that get relegated are due no luck as it’s fate the reason why they are going down. We are getting our fair share of bad luck because the gods say we don’t deserve to stay in the premiership anymore. Yeah, good point. That's what it is. Gods.
jasonb Posted 8 May, 2018 Posted 8 May, 2018 Yeah, good point. That's what it is. Gods. I'm fully prepared to proclaim unequivocal devotion to any deity that can guarantee us 3pts tonight... Just tell me where to sign up! Maybe more foolhardy is my abstinence fron the grain tonight. I must be f****** mental !
Lord Duckhunter Posted 8 May, 2018 Posted 8 May, 2018 We got Boscombe at a good time as well. In fact our run in has been pretty lucky since West Ham. With Arsenal, Chelsea, Leicester , boscombe & Everton not having much to play for, neither have City in the grand scheme of things. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
warsash saint Posted 8 May, 2018 Posted 8 May, 2018 For us: Last min pen vs West Ham (although probably a pen?) Against: Watford handball goal Marcus Alonso sending off Everton 7 mins injury time + Redmond "foul" Does it even out throughout the season? Are we right to feel hard done by? Against The disallowed goal at Wembley Stephens sending off against Arsenal (every similar decision since has received just a yellow - Danny Rose etc) Stoke home game & the lack of injury time
vivasadio Posted 8 May, 2018 Posted 8 May, 2018 Against The disallowed goal at Wembley Stephens sending off against Arsenal (every similar decision since has received just a yellow - Danny Rose etc) Stoke home game & the lack of injury time The Stephens sending off meant Bendarek came in and he is far superior
Lighthouse Posted 8 May, 2018 Posted 8 May, 2018 Teams that get relegated are due no luck as it’s fate the reason why they are going down. We are getting our fair share of bad luck because the gods say we don’t deserve to stay in the premiership anymore. I think Reed's ego can live without being called that, TBH.
suewhistle Posted 8 May, 2018 Posted 8 May, 2018 I'm fully prepared to proclaim unequivocal devotion to any deity that can guarantee us 3pts tonight... Just tell me where to sign up! Maybe more foolhardy is my abstinence fron the grain tonight. I must be f****** mental ! You're going with the grape then? :-)
Batman Posted 8 May, 2018 Posted 8 May, 2018 I’m not even watching (can’t) so will probably get the result after the final whistle!!!
benjii Posted 8 May, 2018 Posted 8 May, 2018 Against The disallowed goal at Wembley Stephens sending off against Arsenal (every similar decision since has received just a yellow - Danny Rose etc) Stoke home game & the lack of injury time The Stephens thing was a clear red card and also good news for us.
jasonb Posted 8 May, 2018 Posted 8 May, 2018 You're going with the grape then? :-) Bugger... Just remembered we do have a couple of bottles of red in!
Batman Posted 10 May, 2018 Posted 10 May, 2018 The ball hitting the ref that helped us to score against burnley
eurosaint Posted 10 May, 2018 Posted 10 May, 2018 Just watched Cresswell go well over the top on McTominay ! Very clear yellow at the very least but not given ! The ref is Jon Moss, same guy who clearly deemed Yoshida’s challenge (1st yellow) as being worse ! Inconsistency rules, I’m afraid - or maybe just incompetence!
doddisalegend Posted 10 May, 2018 Posted 10 May, 2018 McCarthy punching Bednarek in the head turned out to be a big stroke of luck...
Wes Tender Posted 11 May, 2018 Posted 11 May, 2018 The extra time added on to extra time against City which allowed Stirling to score.
Matthew Le God Posted 11 May, 2018 Posted 11 May, 2018 The extra time added on to extra time against City which allowed Stirling to score.
VectisSaint Posted 11 May, 2018 Posted 11 May, 2018 The Stephens sending off meant Bendarek came in and he is far superior But we had to continue with Hoedt who is far inferior. Bednarek is good, but he is not markedly better than Stephens, in my opinion Jack is a better all round player.
Manuel Posted 11 May, 2018 Posted 11 May, 2018 The extra time added on to extra time against City which allowed Stirling to score. Frustrated me and seemed more unfair than the Everton one.
Whitey Grandad Posted 11 May, 2018 Posted 11 May, 2018 Frustrated me and seemed more unfair than the Everton one. Unfair? It was the same for both teams and if we had scored in that time would you have felt the same way? Just saying...
Batman Posted 11 May, 2018 Posted 11 May, 2018 Just watched Cresswell go well over the top on McTominay ! Very clear yellow at the very least but not given ! The ref is Jon Moss, same guy who clearly deemed Yoshida’s challenge (1st yellow) as being worse ! Inconsistency rules, I’m afraid - or maybe just incompetence! Noble going for the face was no different from Stephens
Manuel Posted 11 May, 2018 Posted 11 May, 2018 Unfair? It was the same for both teams and if we had scored in that time would you have felt the same way? From how I remember it, the Everton extra-extra time could be justified because of Cedric's injury. Couldn't find any reason for the City extra-extra time. It suited them more than us because we were satisfied with the point and they weren't.
Saint86 Posted 11 May, 2018 Posted 11 May, 2018 I personally don't think our luck has evened itself out over the season.
Wade Garrett Posted 11 May, 2018 Posted 11 May, 2018 None of it seems down to luck, just rank bad referees. It is incredulous that the richest league in the world is officiated by such incompetent half-wits. Michael Oliver is about the only competent one we have.
Whitey Grandad Posted 11 May, 2018 Posted 11 May, 2018 From how I remember it, the Everton extra-extra time could be justified because of Cedric's injury. Couldn't find any reason for the City extra-extra time. It suited them more than us because we were satisfied with the point and they weren't. I wasn’t at the game, was just making a point. Whether it suits one team more than the other cannot be taken into consideration, of course.
Whitey Grandad Posted 11 May, 2018 Posted 11 May, 2018 I personally don't think our luck has evened itself out over the season. Isn’t that just observer bias?
rallyboy Posted 13 May, 2018 Posted 13 May, 2018 It did even out, we got robbed of two points for a blatant handball that even made Stevie Wonder wince, but we then won a throw-in on the halfway line against Man Utd that maybe should have been theirs. The same as when Kevin Friend was playing for Liverpool and on that one day his mistakes cost us a league place - we won a goalkick that season that should have been a corner. So it all evens out.
Pamplemousse Posted 13 May, 2018 Posted 13 May, 2018 I thought the ref at Swansea blew a little bit early. They didn't look like scoring at all though, so probably wouldn't have made a difference.
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