LaptopSaint Posted 16 May, 2020 Share Posted 16 May, 2020 Honestly not going to miss Hojbjerg when you see Alex Jankewitz play. This guy is the next superstar out of our academy. Showing the same level as the Ox did at the same age. V exciting. Great to hear. What more can you tell us about him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 16 May, 2020 Share Posted 16 May, 2020 Nice article on Hojbjerg in The Athletic, showing why his key stats make him very attractive for other clubs. It suggests he prefers Spurs to Everton and won't sign a new deal at Saints. Passing into final third per90 - 13th of midfielders with 900+mins 15th for aeriel duel wins 1st for ball recoveries (a key of our game under RH) Available for all but 2 PL games and no major injuries since 2013 That's a huge but underrated virtue for a player*. Imagine if the likes of Pahars and Ekelund, etc. had been the same. *Provided the player is at least semi-decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 16 May, 2020 Share Posted 16 May, 2020 That's a huge but underrated virtue for a player*. Imagine if the likes of Pahars and Ekelund, etc. had been the same. *Provided the player is at least semi-decent. Got me thinking about our least injured players. I can’t remember Pellè missing a game through injury and Lambert was pretty decent in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvSFC Posted 16 May, 2020 Share Posted 16 May, 2020 Lambert was Godly in that sense also considering the extra games in the FL. Just checked his appearance stats by season here: 2009-10 - 46 league matches (one for Bristol Rovers) 59 matches in total. 2010-11 - 45 league matches (missed the opener against Plymouth iirc) 52 matches in total. 2011-12 - 42 league matches (missed three because of that c*nt El-Abd) 48 matches in total. 2012-13 - 38 league matches - 38 matches in total. 2013-14 - 37 league matches - 39 matches in total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 17 May, 2020 Share Posted 17 May, 2020 (edited) Not much else other than the coaching team are seriously excited about him. Comparisons to wanyama have been made, "but 10x better". More box to box. Looks a big lad,a bit of a proverbial "brick sh!thouse", who won't get shoved off the ball easy. Hence the Wanyama comparison. Will make a change from the shortarses we've churned out recently. But still only 18, so maybe a year or two away from the first team. Edited 17 May, 2020 by Badger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 17 May, 2020 Share Posted 17 May, 2020 Not much else other than the coaching team are seriously excited about him. Comparisons to wanyama have been made, "but 10x better". More box to box. Good to hear. When are we thinking we’ll see him in the first team setup? I assume not next season? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 18 May, 2020 Share Posted 18 May, 2020 Think he will be looked at this season, when we are mathematically safe. Sounds promising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 18 May, 2020 Share Posted 18 May, 2020 Looks a big lad,a bit of a proverbial "brick sh!thouse", who won't get shoved off the ball easy. Hence the Wanyama comparison. Will make a change from the shortarses we've churned out recently. But still only 18, so maybe a year or two away from the first team. Seems fond of a Cruyff turn. I think at 18 he can certainly start being integrated into the first team if he has the quality, we will need to replace Hojbjerg definitely though as it would be very silly to go in to a season with just JWP, Romeu and an untested 18 year old as our midfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 18 May, 2020 Share Posted 18 May, 2020 Seems fond of a Cruyff turn. I think at 18 he can certainly start being integrated into the first team if he has the quality, we will need to replace Hojbjerg definitely though as it would be very silly to go in to a season with just JWP, Romeu and an untested 18 year old as our midfield 20 year old Will Smallbone aswell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 18 May, 2020 Share Posted 18 May, 2020 Seems fond of a Cruyff turn. I think at 18 he can certainly start being integrated into the first team if he has the quality, we will need to replace Hojbjerg definitely though as it would be very silly to go in to a season with just JWP, Romeu and an untested 18 year old as our midfield I wouldn't be surprised if Romeu is on his way in the summer as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 18 May, 2020 Share Posted 18 May, 2020 I wouldn't be surprised if Romeu is on his way in the summer as well. Pre Coronavirus i'd have expected him to be off. Now he may just see out his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW5 SAINT Posted 23 May, 2020 Share Posted 23 May, 2020 I do wonder if the original offer to him is still on the table. If it is still available, he must be naive and misguided not to sign. Don’t imagine an offer like it will be offered to anybody from any club in the summer of 2021........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 23 May, 2020 Share Posted 23 May, 2020 I do wonder if the original offer to him is still on the table. If it is still available, he must be naive and misguided not to sign. Don’t imagine an offer like it will be offered to anybody from any club in the summer of 2021........ On the wider scale, not just Saints, I was thinking the other day that any player who has a lucrative contract offer on the table should be agreeing to sign it straight away. They wont be getting anything like, or the vast majority wont, when this is all over given the financial hit every club has taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 23 May, 2020 Share Posted 23 May, 2020 so we could see a midfield of Smallbone, Jankewitz and JWP in near future then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 23 May, 2020 Share Posted 23 May, 2020 so we could see a midfield of Smallbone, Jankewitz and JWP in near future then. I doubt it. Covid 19 will probably just drive down prices across the board. We will most likely end up signing the same mediocre players as before, only we'll be paying £2-5m like we were 20 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 23 May, 2020 Share Posted 23 May, 2020 I doubt it. Covid 19 will probably just drive down prices across the board. We will most likely end up signing the same mediocre players as before, only we'll be paying £2-5m like we were 20 years ago. Sometimes you can be over negative. The thought that we could have three or more academy players playing for us at the same time is one that fills me with hope that our academy could be on the way back to a decent pathway for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis17 Posted 23 May, 2020 Share Posted 23 May, 2020 You're correct. There's a lot to be excited about again. A few VERY good youngsters have caught Ralph's attention. Do you know who else is on his radar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 May, 2020 Share Posted 23 May, 2020 Do you know who else is on his radar? N’lundulu is meant to be highly rated and Will Ferry. Wonder what will become of Slattery, he was really highly rated but doesn’t seem to be fancied due to reports of being a bit of a helmet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJackoInHurworth Posted 23 May, 2020 Share Posted 23 May, 2020 So, this thread seems to be getting away from its main topic. Can I just ask then... * What is the current situation with Hojbjerg? * Is the touted interest from Everton and Spurs genuine or just press speculation? * If there was genuine interest, does that interest remain? * As asked above, is there a contract offer on the table for Hojbjerg and is it still on the table? What is the likelihood that he will sign it? * Should we be concerned that Pini Zahavi is his agent? * If Hojbjerg does leave, will Saints replace him or will we use the money to strengthen in attack and defence? Who will take over Hojbjerg's role in the team in that case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 24 May, 2020 Share Posted 24 May, 2020 Sometimes you can be over negative. The thought that we could have three or more academy players playing for us at the same time is one that fills me with hope that our academy could be on the way back to a decent pathway for us. TBH I thought you were the one saying this was bad. This kind of thing would usually only come about in a 2008 type situation, when we've sold the experienced players and are trying to make do with the kids. If they're good enough, then great but this is a thread about selling Hojbjerg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 24 May, 2020 Share Posted 24 May, 2020 Can we get £100 million for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 24 May, 2020 Share Posted 24 May, 2020 So, this thread seems to be getting away from its main topic. Can I just ask then... * What is the current situation with Hojbjerg? * Is the touted interest from Everton and Spurs genuine or just press speculation? * If there was genuine interest, does that interest remain? * As asked above, is there a contract offer on the table for Hojbjerg and is it still on the table? What is the likelihood that he will sign it? * Should we be concerned that Pini Zahavi is his agent? * If Hojbjerg does leave, will Saints replace him or will we use the money to strengthen in attack and defence? Who will take over Hojbjerg's role in the team in that case? Currently still a Saints player. Club agent talk to sound out player, seems to be working. Chatter still occurring. No Contract talks. Hoj will leave this or next summer. No, Pini should be helping get clubs lined up if Hoj wants to leave this summer. Just a question of how much and the cost. He will be replaced. But first in the queue are the players already at the club, also depending on more immediate issues. HTH. Based on how football works. [emoji2957] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 24 May, 2020 Share Posted 24 May, 2020 Currently still a Saints player. Club agent talk to sound out player, seems to be working. Chatter still occurring. No Contract talks. Hoj will leave this or next summer. No, Pini should be helping get clubs lined up if Hoj wants to leave this summer. Just a question of how much and the cost. He will be replaced. But first in the queue are the players already at the club, also depending on more immediate issues. HTH. Based on how football works. [emoji2957] Brilliantly succinct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 24 May, 2020 Share Posted 24 May, 2020 We ll get no more than 12-15m for him and will relunctently accept any offer around that amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 24 May, 2020 Share Posted 24 May, 2020 I m surprised no one is talking about Bertrand, Boufal and Romeu with one year left too. I don t see any of them signing a new one with maybe the exception of Romeu if he is wanted following Hojbjerg s departure. So we ll probably sell them and not get near the amount for them had we flogged them off last summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 17 June, 2020 Share Posted 17 June, 2020 Officially stripped of the captaincy...My assumption is that he'll still be first choice while we need points... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 17 June, 2020 Share Posted 17 June, 2020 He joined us as a stepping stone, so none of this is a surprise. Having seen players who were significantly better than Pierre go to brighter pastures and fail I am not convinced that he is really going on to greatness. I'm pretty convinced he's going on to Everton, which is the complete opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 17 June, 2020 Share Posted 17 June, 2020 He'll be a miss for us definitely when he goes, but I'm hoping we recruit someone who can fill his void. My bigger issue is that we lose a leader, and we don't have a huge number of those in our club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 17 June, 2020 Share Posted 17 June, 2020 22 minutes ago, CB Fry said: He joined us as a stepping stone, so none of this is a surprise. Having seen players who were significantly better than Pierre go to brighter pastures and fail I am not convinced that he is really going on to greatness. I'm pretty convinced he's going on to Everton, which is the complete opposite. Yes, I think we will miss him, he’s found his level. He’s nowhere near top six signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 17 June, 2020 Share Posted 17 June, 2020 41 minutes ago, beatlesaint said: Yes, I think we will miss him, he’s found his level. He’s nowhere near top six signings. He'll find that out the hard way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 17 June, 2020 Share Posted 17 June, 2020 1 hour ago, beatlesaint said: Yes, I think we will miss him, he’s found his level. He’s nowhere near top six signings. What about if a top six team signs him? Surely then he IS a top six signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 17 June, 2020 Share Posted 17 June, 2020 10 minutes ago, Dusic said: What about if a top six team signs him? Surely then he IS a top six signing. But it will be Spurs so only pseudo top 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 17 June, 2020 Share Posted 17 June, 2020 What about if Leicester sign him, and they finish third? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 17 June, 2020 Share Posted 17 June, 2020 Schneiderlin and Wanyama were better when they left us than he is now, and neither of them really made it elsewhere. I'd like him to stay but if he goes I doubt he will fare any better than those two I have mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 17 June, 2020 Share Posted 17 June, 2020 Hopefully we can get necessary points quickly and then relegate him to bench for remainder of season while we blood others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulwantsapint81 Posted 17 June, 2020 Share Posted 17 June, 2020 Glad to see JWP rewarded with the armband, feel he will relish the responsibility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted 18 June, 2020 Share Posted 18 June, 2020 (edited) Telegraph again saying the Spuds will not be spending, only loans and frees this transfer window. Mourinho saying the squad is balanced. Edited 18 June, 2020 by waylander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 18 June, 2020 Share Posted 18 June, 2020 On 6/17/2020 at 3:25 PM, beatlesaint said: Yes, I think we will miss him, he’s found his level. He’s nowhere near top six signings. Sheffield United are 'top 6', he'd get in their team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 18 June, 2020 Share Posted 18 June, 2020 KWP was featured in one of the promotional pictures at the beginning of the week. If I were a betting man i would put money on a swap deal being arranged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted 18 June, 2020 Share Posted 18 June, 2020 I think we will really miss Hojbjerg if he leaves, just like with Tadic. Some folks don't rate anyone until they are gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 18 June, 2020 Share Posted 18 June, 2020 3 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: Sheffield United are 'top 6', he'd get in their team Jesus wept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpweySaint Posted 18 June, 2020 Share Posted 18 June, 2020 1 hour ago, striker said: I think we will really miss Hojbjerg if he leaves, just like with Tadic. Some folks don't rate anyone until they are gone. I agree we'll miss him and think plenty don't rate him highly enough but he's more replaceable than Tadic. On his day Tadic could mix it with the best whereas Hoj, while an accomplished centre mid arguably capable of surpassing our current level, has not often been a 'match winner' for us. I would also suggest capable centre mids are more plentiful (and therefore theoretically cheaper to replace) than flair players like Tadic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 20 June, 2020 Share Posted 20 June, 2020 (edited) Quote Tottenham make players-plus-cash transfer offer for Southampton star Pierre-Emile Hojbjerg Tottenham have made a players-plus-cash offer to sign Pierre-Emile Hojbjerg from Southampton, according to transfer expert Duncan Castles. Tottenham wanted to sign Hojbjerg in January and are once again pursuing the former Bayern Munich ace. The Denmark international is out of contract at St Mary's in 2021 and has been stripped of the captaincy after refusing to sign a new contract. Castles has not named the players Tottenham have offered in part exchange for Hojbjerg and says it is one of three separate offers Southampton have received for the player. Spurs have made such an offer because their transfer budget is set to be low in the upcoming window. "Southampton see him as a player they have to sell in this market," Castles said on the Transfer Window podcast. "They, I'm told, have three offers so far for the player, none of them are satisfactory, one extremely low at a financial level, and they have an offer of cash plus players in exchange, which I understand has come from Tottenham Hotspur. "My information is that Jose Mourinho likes Hojbjerg and he sees him as a player obviously with substantial Premier League experience who he can bring into the centre of his midfield, can play a couple of positions in midfield at a relatively low cost, and solves some of the problems he sees in that squad. "We've seen Mourinho talk about how he sees the market developing this year. "We told you on the podcast I think two months ago now that Daniel Levy basically told him there would be no money for large transfer fees and he would have to look for players who are free agents or could be signed on loan with an option to buy in a year's time." Speaking earlier this week, Mourinho admitted he does not expect to be able to spend like some of his rivals. Source: https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1298661/Tottenham-transfer-news-Pierre-Emile-Hojbjerg-Southampton-offer Edited 20 June, 2020 by SuperSAINT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barsiem Posted 20 June, 2020 Share Posted 20 June, 2020 I was thinking watching the game last night that out of our 4 usual midfield starters - hoj, WP, Redmond & Armstrong - hoj is probably the one I'd sell first. He's a good player but too inconsistent even for a mid table team. Won't be easy to replace though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 20 June, 2020 Share Posted 20 June, 2020 42 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Source: https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1298661/Tottenham-transfer-news-Pierre-Emile-Hojbjerg-Southampton-offer Seems to imply it could be multiple players. Wonder if we are interested in Foyth or Lamela again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 20 June, 2020 Share Posted 20 June, 2020 (edited) We don't need any of Spurs cast offs thanks. Cash, or do one. Edited 20 June, 2020 by S-Clarke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 20 June, 2020 Share Posted 20 June, 2020 22 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: We don't need any of Spurs cast offs thanks. Cash, or do one. One of the few times I’d actually like a player to go to Everton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted 20 June, 2020 Share Posted 20 June, 2020 30 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: We don't need any of Spurs cast offs thanks. Cash, or do one. I'd imagine the players are Walker-Peters and Juan Foyth. No wonder we've deemed it unsatisfactory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 20 June, 2020 Share Posted 20 June, 2020 (edited) On 6/18/2020 at 8:11 PM, striker said: I think we will really miss Hojbjerg if he leaves, just like with Tadic. Some folks don't rate anyone until they are gone. Not in the same class. On his day Tadic was sublime. I don’t think it was a question of not rating him, people were just frustrated by his lack of consistency. PEH is just average. Edited 20 June, 2020 by Lord Duckhunter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW5 SAINT Posted 20 June, 2020 Share Posted 20 June, 2020 In a Premier league where each placing is worth about £2.5m, and relegation is hundreds of millions. If we don’t get a decent offer, I’d just let him see out his contract....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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